I agree with you. With the 1.6x crop factor of the bmpcc 6k, the 24-70 is pretty useless, as the widest focal equivalent in full frame will be around 40mm… It can be ok if you shoot very specific type of videos, like dialogues only, or maybe portrait/fashion or food videos with a lot of closeups. But except that, having an equivalent of 40mm as the widest focal is pretty tricky to work with.
@@truemetsujin there is no logic in comparing to a full frame sensor as both EF and EF-S lens are the same focal length and same FOV for a given lens type on an S35/APS-C sensor size. It's only when you compare back to full frame which is almost pointless in this scenario.
This is exactly what I’m needing. Every video tells me to get the Sigma 18-35 which is what I’ve been planning on. Now you’ve got me considering differently.
If you put the cam on sticks getting it is a reasonable thing. If you shoot run and gun----forget it unless you can get a bargain rate on a fork lift----the thing will wear you out!
Look into the canon 17-55 f2.8 IS. Used. (It is overpriced new) Especially for run and gun! I used my 18-35 sigma for ages and loved it, but always needed the extra reach than the 1.3 stop of extra light.
@@electronicfellows2113 it depends on what you're shooting. As an all around lens do everything reasonably well but nothing absolutely amazing, the 17-55 is way better than the 18-35 for me. I've used both and love both lenses. But i found myself switching away from the 18-35 for the majority of my run and gun work in the past. Quite often, I've found the image stabilization and reach of a 24-105 f4 to be much more advantageous (even in low light) to the 18-35 f1.8. but for tripod shots, and tons of narrative work, the 18-35 was incredible for me before i sold it.
@@directoradamg Thanks for the reply! This is a link of a dj doing the exact thing I would want to do & in almost the exact room size/background/lighting: ua-cam.com/video/fi6s9V5jC3s/v-deo.html - )I’m very new at cameras / lenses). She has the 6k in this video but it’s hard for me to gauge what mm lens would be on that middle camera to achieve that shot. Maybe a trained eye could enlighten me!
Fun video. The only thing I missed after bailing out on the sinking ship of EF was my Tamron 15-30 f/2.8. That lens is pure gold. As a full frame Sony shooter, the Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 is my, "if I could only have one lens" lens.
There’s a lot of people talking about the Canon efs 17-55 2.8 here. I bought that lens and the range is indeed great. HOWEVER, the build quality isn’t and the focus ring is so plasticy and thin that it doesn’t really allow for good focus pulls. I think this is why it isn’t included here. It’s a good budget option but lacks some details to really be used professionally. Thanks for the overview Epic Light Media!
Old comment but I think your point is more important than many of the comments here factor in, I have the 18-55 efs IS which on paper looks pretty good and is cheap, but at f3.5-5.6 with a terrible focus ring is... um... limited - to put it charitably - in it's use. To me it's close to medium shots, controlled lighting type things where the IS is then less of a boon, but coupled with the focus ring makes it a very tight box to work in. The IS isn't very useful if you're constrained by everything else already to controlled environments only IMO, in which case you might as well use something that opens up more so you can get a bit more selective focus at least. So yeah, it's a lens that isn't "good" at anything, but sort of workable everywhere if nothing else works, like a bad multitool 🙂 it *can do* a lot of things, but you'll want to avoid it and use anything else if you can. I'll run it if I want to try to shoot something I have absolutely no control over because it is applicable to almost any situation(light permitting), but I don't expect the result to be particularly good in terms of "look" no matter what else I do.
I use the Canon 24-105mm a lot and I love it for its range. And if you zoom with an open f4, you don't lose any light. If you close it just to f4.5, it is just as you show: You lose lots of light zooming in.
It's because f/stop doesn't take into account light loss when zooming like T/stop does In practice the 24-105 has a much darker image when zooming in Love the lens, hate how it gets darker
The canon 17-55 f2.8 lens is imo, by far, the best lens for the pocket pro if you can find a reasonably priced good condition used one. It has IS, f2.8, light weight, and it replicates the 24-70 lens would look like on a full frame. Yes it is an APS-C lens, but so is the pocket pro.
Bingo. The 15-85, though not a constant aperture, is also VERY well build, with excellent stabilization, beautiful image, and very good focus ring---mine is a bit better than my 17-55. I prefer using them to using my FF Canons.
@@electronicfellows2113 so indoor or outdoor, both can benefit from an f1.8 or f2.8 depending on how dark it is, and how much of the frame you want in focus. Just because a lens stops down to f1.8, doesn't mean you should use it there most of the time. If you need the extra light, f1.8 willbe better than f2.8. but depending on your camera, they are getting more and more sensitive to light that often, i don't have my f stop all the way open. Sorry i can't give you an overall answer. There are a ton of factors and often the situation you're shooting in will dictate what is best. Indoor is one aspect of many that will dictate which f stop or lens is best for what you're shooting. Lenses like a zoom lens that has image stabilization, and a lower f stop, will be super useful in the most amount of situations, but wont necessarily be the best for each of those situations. Think jack of all trades master of none. Based on your questions, you seem to be newer to this, and that's great! Keep asking questions and enjoy yourself. I'd advise you to stay away from the sigma 18-35 f1.8 or canon 17-55 f2.8 for now. If you have an aps-c or super35 camera and want a lens that will cost very little and give you a ton of use, look for the sigma 17-50 f2.8 OS lens. It can be found used for as little as $300 canadian in my area, and is bang for the buck, one of the best entry level all around EF aps-c/s35 lenses on the market, in my opinion.
@@johnfragos7660 The camera, with the Sigma 18-35mm lens, with a gimbal is heavy. Heavy as fuck after holding it for a while. The Sigma is not a handheld lens. That's why I'm here watching this video. To shoot handheld with a stabilized lens. And I found that Canon 17-55 for $380 on eBay Mint condition.
I shoot on a Fuji XT3 with a speedbooster and the tamron 24-70 f 2.8 g2. And I love it. I don't mind the weight at all. Quite the contrary because I shoot 90% handheld
The only thing keeping me from this lens is the front filter diameter. I've build my kit to have 77mm, but this lens is much larger. Only the 24-105 still has a 77mm thread.
Correct me if Im wrong, but @3:20, there is a notice about the Canon 24-105 f/4 letting in more light at 24mm than at 105mm. There is a difference in F and T stops, and even thought the lens technically would be at f/4 all through the range, the real concern here should be the T-stop. There is a reason cinema-lenses is measured at T2.8, instead of f/2.8. F denotes the aperture measurements, while T is a measurement of how much light is actually passing through the lens at any given F-stop.
I shot a video on the 6k last year using the following stabilized lenses: Canon EF-S 17-55 2.8, and variables:10-18, 15-85, 55-250, 18-135. My favorite? The 15-85. Clear, sharp, the 55-250 is amazing---i found these lenses, made for APS-C (they've not heavy), have focusing is completely silent, excellent in-lens stabilization, lovely images and color rendition, respectable focus rings----the 15-85 and 17-55 both have very good focus rings---and they don't break the bank. Thomas, did you ever condescend to actually test these APS-C lenses on BMPCC6k Super 35 sensor. In many cases I prefer them to my full frame Canon lenses.
I have a sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 image stabilized, the glass isn't as good in the sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 art & the focus throw on the ring is incredibly short the ring moves like 30° rotation from a foot to infinity. But the quality, & functionality for the price of around $300 is unbeatable
i want the sigma 24mm 1.4 and the 18-35 and the 24-70 and the 70-200 all from sigma i love what i'm hearing from them so i want to start getting these camera lenses. i really like what i see so i want to know how good sigma art series is
Long time follower, first time commenter! Love your work. Would love to see a video series on achieving suburb image quality factoring in: sensor size, sharpness of the glass, and resolution. Story time: I love shooting on the Pocket 6K but find the image is lacklustre when using Canon L zoom lens! Would love to see for example how a C500mkii is a 5.9K sensor full frame may be sharper than the same resolution Pocket 6K, due to the C500’s sensor size? This all assumes the lighting is great to begin with and is a non variable!
Man, your videos always catch me by surprise. I'll start watching expecting to turn on 2x speed to get the info as fast as possible, but I find myself taking time to really appreciate the thought and effort that goes into making your videos. Btw I "didn't" subscribe ;)
I was watching with my room window open and thought that birds outside were loud. Then I realised, it was on you video! The birds in America sound just like the birds in the UK! Who da thunk it riiiight??
Thank you very much for the video. I have one question: What lens are you using to show the lenses on the table (in-door), specifically from 5:09 to 5:21?
How do you find the OS on the sigma with your bmpcc6k and Ursa? Did you need to calibrate the OS to engage while shooting video? Interested in picking up a fast stabilised lens
Which Canon 24-105 you tested (Version I or II)? I am shocked to see how dark the image gets as you zoomed in! that is a shame I was thinking about buying that lens (both for Video and Photo).
hi good show! I have question. I watched this vide plethora times. I have canon r. I want to use 4k but has crop of 1.7 would you suggest the sigma 1835 1.8? I believe this lens was designed to correct canon r 4k crop. I was actually very interested with sigma 2485 2.8 for daily use 1080p.
Love the channel. Thinking of going with the Pocket 6k Pro with your recommended lens for an in-house corporate position but the lack of auto-focus scares me. Your shots just don't seem to lose focus. Is that just practice or selective editing? My biggest issue in the past is just not being able to tell if I was in focus or not, especially while outside in the sun.
I recommend it even though it doesn’t have auto focus. There is focus peaking which outlines what’s in focus so that helps me. I don’t like auto focus cameras usually because it always seems to be hunting. I’m old school
I don't know why you wanted me to go search for the lens I want to buy instead of just clicking on the link but that extra effort and my laziness saved me a bunch of money so, thanks, I guess.
Quick question, which light are you using for this video? Not many lights are powerful enough to properly light a subject in sunlight... Ap 600d? The new evoke 1200?
Hey! For this video I just used a big white bounce and was backlit from the sun! If I used a light outside I would have needed like 2 600Ds instead. When it’s a bright sunny day I usually just use the sun .
Hi man great Video! One question :Right in the middle of upgrading to the 6k pro! On the pocket 4k I used the Tamron 24-70 with a speed booster and found the range not wide enough with (eq. 34mm) .. on the 6k the 24-70 is even tighter (eq 38mm) how do u feel about that ... That's why I got my eyes on the Tamron 15-30 .. what do u think on the focal range of the 24-70 don't u feel it's to tight ? And would u rather do 15-30 +48mm prime or 18mm prime +24-70 :) Thanks man the video is really awesome
@@warnjoke I used the viltrox 0.71 speed booster that made my 24 to a 34 equivalent... Wich was just to tight ... That's why I'm asking as he says the best one is 24-70 Wich is 38 mm without a booster on a super 35 ... Wich is even tighter than I had it .. so that's why I asked why the Tamron 15-30 isnt better suited in his opinion :)
Thank you for this awesome video. I am looking to get few of this cameras for live streaming (church on sunday) and I was looking for some options for lenses. We already have 70-200 f4 and 24-105 f4. But I am looking for a lens if there is an option in the 20-300 mm range. I know this kind of lens is slow, but having this focal lengths at least for one camera would be good. (for now we are using GH5's but I would like to transition to blackmagic cameras paired with Atem mini extreme ISO)
@@sergiubn What you're looking for sounds more like an ENG lens. Adapting that to this camera might not work very well, but the URSA Broadcast is made to mount one. In my opinion you would run into more trouble trying to use a still lens in this range. I also understand that your budget might not allow for that.
@@electronicfellows2113 if you can't bring lights, I would take 18-35 just for the extra stop of light. But if you can control the light (and need longer reach) go for 17-50
Few more that I've tested. The Canon EF L 24-70 f4. I.S on that one is great as is the image. Better than the 24-105. It's cheap too. Mega cheap (£200) canon EF-S 10-18 I.S. Very light , variable aputure. (F4.5-5.6) Also, the canon EF-S 17-55 f2.8 I.S.
It's almost scary how i was thinking about this for the last few weeks and then i watch this video... I have one question, is the Sigma your fav. because its OS is better than the Tamrons? I've watched christopher frosts video and he said that its a bit janky for video... I appreciate your Work, thanks for these great videos brother. Sincerest regards from germany
Just out of curiosity, has anyone had their lens with IS like stutter when in movement? There will be times when I flip the IS mode on the image on the back of my 6K Pro will shift up and down making IS unusable for me.
Hello from the future! Every lens mentioned is now obsolete when it comes to stabilization (although they're still great lenses), as the BMPCC 6K Pro (as well as 6K and 4K) now have internal gyroscopic stabilization that (in my humble opinion) is vastly superior to any lens stabilization. However, for it to work, you have to disable the lens stabilization...
I disagree here. As with the BMPCC test which you rated the original battery grip at 1 hour (which is 2 hours really, I own it and use it all the time and habe tested it) the Sigmas are optically beautiful lenses but their OS is not smooth at all for video. While we appreciate these tests and fun videos the informations should be more accurate. After testing these lenses too I find the original 24-105 L lens to have the most natural IS for handheld shooting.
Nothing on my channel is accurate actually. Being accurate is for Gerald Undone. There is tons of misinformation on this channel…I keep telling people to stop watching for a reason. I know I have a responsibility as a creator to be accurate with information but I don’t care.
Didn't even mention the Canon 17-55 2.8 IS, which should probably be the winner as it's a much more useful focal range. Fail.
It’s true!! This video is garbage and never should have been made. I’m not being sarcastic or facetious.
I agree with you.
With the 1.6x crop factor of the bmpcc 6k, the 24-70 is pretty useless, as the widest focal equivalent in full frame will be around 40mm…
It can be ok if you shoot very specific type of videos, like dialogues only, or maybe portrait/fashion or food videos with a lot of closeups.
But except that, having an equivalent of 40mm as the widest focal is pretty tricky to work with.
@@EpicLightMedia LOL. Everyone loves a critic!
Lots of good info, but the 17-55 is the elephant in the room that doesn't get mentioned, IMHO it's the best choice.
@@truemetsujin there is no logic in comparing to a full frame sensor as both EF and EF-S lens are the same focal length and same FOV for a given lens type on an S35/APS-C sensor size. It's only when you compare back to full frame which is almost pointless in this scenario.
Thank you for the recommendation! Glad our 24-70mm found a place in your kit. :)
We love all of our sigma lenses!
You guys have the Ef shortage and is annoying
Sigma should have a front row seat in everyone’s kit! The 28-70 will forever be my first choice for my kit.
Sigma 24 - 70
This is exactly what I’m needing. Every video tells me to get the Sigma 18-35 which is what I’ve been planning on. Now you’ve got me considering differently.
If you put the cam on sticks getting it is a reasonable thing. If you shoot run and gun----forget it unless you can get a bargain rate on a fork lift----the thing will wear you out!
Look into the canon 17-55 f2.8 IS. Used. (It is overpriced new) Especially for run and gun! I used my 18-35 sigma for ages and loved it, but always needed the extra reach than the 1.3 stop of extra light.
@@directoradamg Would the 18-35 f1/8 be better for strictly indoor video use compared to the canon 17-55 f2.8?
@@electronicfellows2113 it depends on what you're shooting. As an all around lens do everything reasonably well but nothing absolutely amazing, the 17-55 is way better than the 18-35 for me. I've used both and love both lenses. But i found myself switching away from the 18-35 for the majority of my run and gun work in the past. Quite often, I've found the image stabilization and reach of a 24-105 f4 to be much more advantageous (even in low light) to the 18-35 f1.8. but for tripod shots, and tons of narrative work, the 18-35 was incredible for me before i sold it.
@@directoradamg Thanks for the reply! This is a link of a dj doing the exact thing I would want to do & in almost the exact room size/background/lighting: ua-cam.com/video/fi6s9V5jC3s/v-deo.html - )I’m very new at cameras / lenses). She has the 6k in this video but it’s hard for me to gauge what mm lens would be on that middle camera to achieve that shot. Maybe a trained eye could enlighten me!
Always happy to see another ELM video in my notifica... I mean I found this video randomly and I wouldn't even dream of subscribing!
0:22 laowa's being shy yet adorable.
Probably embarrassed for being the only one without AF. Which is irrelevant for BMCC anyway😬
Fun video. The only thing I missed after bailing out on the sinking ship of EF was my Tamron 15-30 f/2.8. That lens is pure gold. As a full frame Sony shooter, the Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 is my, "if I could only have one lens" lens.
There’s a lot of people talking about the Canon efs 17-55 2.8 here. I bought that lens and the range is indeed great. HOWEVER, the build quality isn’t and the focus ring is so plasticy and thin that it doesn’t really allow for good focus pulls. I think this is why it isn’t included here. It’s a good budget option but lacks some details to really be used professionally.
Thanks for the overview Epic Light Media!
Old comment but I think your point is more important than many of the comments here factor in, I have the 18-55 efs IS which on paper looks pretty good and is cheap, but at f3.5-5.6 with a terrible focus ring is... um... limited - to put it charitably - in it's use. To me it's close to medium shots, controlled lighting type things where the IS is then less of a boon, but coupled with the focus ring makes it a very tight box to work in. The IS isn't very useful if you're constrained by everything else already to controlled environments only IMO, in which case you might as well use something that opens up more so you can get a bit more selective focus at least. So yeah, it's a lens that isn't "good" at anything, but sort of workable everywhere if nothing else works, like a bad multitool 🙂 it *can do* a lot of things, but you'll want to avoid it and use anything else if you can. I'll run it if I want to try to shoot something I have absolutely no control over because it is applicable to almost any situation(light permitting), but I don't expect the result to be particularly good in terms of "look" no matter what else I do.
I use the Canon 24-105mm a lot and I love it for its range. And if you zoom with an open f4, you don't lose any light. If you close it just to f4.5, it is just as you show: You lose lots of light zooming in.
It's because f/stop doesn't take into account light loss when zooming like T/stop does
In practice the 24-105 has a much darker image when zooming in
Love the lens, hate how it gets darker
11:06 that image and texture is why I love my 6k pro. pure goodness!
Astute. The 12mm and 18-35 - workhorses in my kit....for years and years.
Love the amount of lenses tested 💯 very helpful, would love even more videos like these putting the best lenses against each other
The canon 17-55 f2.8 lens is imo, by far, the best lens for the pocket pro if you can find a reasonably priced good condition used one. It has IS, f2.8, light weight, and it replicates the 24-70 lens would look like on a full frame. Yes it is an APS-C lens, but so is the pocket pro.
Bingo. The 15-85, though not a constant aperture, is also VERY well build, with excellent stabilization, beautiful image, and very good focus ring---mine is a bit better than my 17-55. I prefer using them to using my FF Canons.
I own this lens and agree whole heartedly. F2.8 with IS, and is the perfect zoom range for apsc or S35.
would 2.8 be the best aperture for strictly indoor videos? or would 1.8 be better?
@@electronicfellows2113 so indoor or outdoor, both can benefit from an f1.8 or f2.8 depending on how dark it is, and how much of the frame you want in focus. Just because a lens stops down to f1.8, doesn't mean you should use it there most of the time.
If you need the extra light, f1.8 willbe better than f2.8. but depending on your camera, they are getting more and more sensitive to light that often, i don't have my f stop all the way open.
Sorry i can't give you an overall answer. There are a ton of factors and often the situation you're shooting in will dictate what is best. Indoor is one aspect of many that will dictate which f stop or lens is best for what you're shooting.
Lenses like a zoom lens that has image stabilization, and a lower f stop, will be super useful in the most amount of situations, but wont necessarily be the best for each of those situations. Think jack of all trades master of none.
Based on your questions, you seem to be newer to this, and that's great! Keep asking questions and enjoy yourself. I'd advise you to stay away from the sigma 18-35 f1.8 or canon 17-55 f2.8 for now. If you have an aps-c or super35 camera and want a lens that will cost very little and give you a ton of use, look for the sigma 17-50 f2.8 OS lens. It can be found used for as little as $300 canadian in my area, and is bang for the buck, one of the best entry level all around EF aps-c/s35 lenses on the market, in my opinion.
@@johnfragos7660 The camera, with the Sigma 18-35mm lens, with a gimbal is heavy. Heavy as fuck after holding it for a while. The Sigma is not a handheld lens. That's why I'm here watching this video. To shoot handheld with a stabilized lens. And I found that Canon 17-55 for $380 on eBay Mint condition.
why do u prefer the sigma 24-70 over the tamron 24-70?
I shoot on a Fuji XT3 with a speedbooster and the tamron 24-70 f 2.8 g2. And I love it. I don't mind the weight at all. Quite the contrary because I shoot 90% handheld
The only thing keeping me from this lens is the front filter diameter. I've build my kit to have 77mm, but this lens is much larger. Only the 24-105 still has a 77mm thread.
@@DesertCookie yeah i feel that. I now shoot it on my z Cam f6 and switched to a mattebox
Your talking head shots in this looked amazing!
great video - which has the best image stabilisation in terms of panning and walking?
Correct me if Im wrong, but @3:20, there is a notice about the Canon 24-105 f/4 letting in more light at 24mm than at 105mm. There is a difference in F and T stops, and even thought the lens technically would be at f/4 all through the range, the real concern here should be the T-stop. There is a reason cinema-lenses is measured at T2.8, instead of f/2.8. F denotes the aperture measurements, while T is a measurement of how much light is actually passing through the lens at any given F-stop.
sold my 24-104 f4. Love the 85mm 1.4 IS and 100mm 2.8 Micro IS. Dream lenses.
I always use a garden hose to carefully nest my cinema camera
I knew this was going to be the lens lol everyone loves that lens…and rightly so!
Also, now that black magic released gyro stabilization for their pocket cameras it makes de sigma 18-35 even better
its not that good tho
Okay BUT what lens was the review shot on? That shot at 9:55 is moneyyy
Sigma 18-35
@@EpicLightMedia on the Ursa?
I think it was the pocket 6k pro
Sigma 18-35/1.8 is an essential lens for EVERY videographer
I have a pocket 6k pro and I finally found a review of stabilized lens.. Thanks for this..
I shot a video on the 6k last year using the following stabilized lenses:
Canon EF-S 17-55 2.8, and variables:10-18, 15-85, 55-250, 18-135.
My favorite? The 15-85. Clear, sharp, the 55-250 is amazing---i found these lenses, made for APS-C (they've not heavy), have focusing is completely silent, excellent in-lens stabilization, lovely images and color rendition, respectable focus rings----the 15-85 and 17-55 both have very good focus rings---and they don't break the bank.
Thomas, did you ever condescend to actually test these APS-C lenses on BMPCC6k Super 35 sensor. In many cases I prefer them to my full frame Canon lenses.
Can concur -- the 24-70 is awesome.
Wish BMP adopted a mirrorless mount which has greater lens compatibility.
I have a sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 image stabilized, the glass isn't as good in the sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 art & the focus throw on the ring is incredibly short the ring moves like 30° rotation from a foot to infinity. But the quality, & functionality for the price of around $300 is unbeatable
For the price, But I purchased that lens----the stabe is not nearly as good as the Canon 17-55 and neither is the image. I sold it.
Please do part 2 of this video.
Re-subscribed just in time for this new vid. ✊🏾
i want the sigma 24mm 1.4 and the 18-35 and the 24-70 and the 70-200 all from sigma i love what i'm hearing from them so i want to start getting these camera lenses. i really like what i see so i want to know how good sigma art series is
Long time follower, first time commenter! Love your work. Would love to see a video series on achieving suburb image quality factoring in: sensor size, sharpness of the glass, and resolution.
Story time:
I love shooting on the Pocket 6K but find the image is lacklustre when using Canon L zoom lens! Would love to see for example how a C500mkii is a 5.9K sensor full frame may be sharper than the same resolution Pocket 6K, due to the C500’s sensor size? This all assumes the lighting is great to begin with and is a non variable!
What’s the best lens for radio? Do you need stabilized lenses for radio, or just video? Thank you.
Great video. How about Sigma 17-55 2.8 IS?
bingo
Very Good video :) Thank you very much Epic Light Media.
Man, your videos always catch me by surprise. I'll start watching expecting to turn on 2x speed to get the info as fast as possible, but I find myself taking time to really appreciate the thought and effort that goes into making your videos. Btw I "didn't" subscribe ;)
Love this a lot ...Thanks so much
Excellent info!! Thank you!
This is the video I need
I was just thinking today “When is ELM going to post a new video?”. The c-stand gods have parted the clouds and delivered.
Thanks for the awesome tips.
I needed this video! thank you so much
Hi! With what camera did you shoot this video? Thanks!
Thanks for the video and for the tips!
I was watching with my room window open and thought that birds outside were loud. Then I realised, it was on you video!
The birds in America sound just like the birds in the UK! Who da thunk it riiiight??
Thank you very much for the video. I have one question: What lens are you using to show the lenses on the table (in-door), specifically from 5:09 to 5:21?
Why are you using a full frame lense on S35 senser? Sigma 1835 1.8 is a much better and affordable option.
just what I needed!!
Lol nice video, i dont own a 6k pro but whatever and the storytelling reminds me so much of the classic Casey Neistat
How do you find the OS on the sigma with your bmpcc6k and Ursa? Did you need to calibrate the OS to engage while shooting video? Interested in picking up a fast stabilised lens
I own the Tamaron 24-70, just curious to what differences you found between that and the Sigma 27-70.
In the end it was the price the tamron is amazing too!
@@EpicLightMedia tamron has dynamic focus change not constant like sigma 24-70 if im right. So harder to pull focus.
@@eszesfilms1651 hmm how does dynamic focus change work exactly? Sounds like a weird “feature” that is possibly very annoying
@@dna8269 like in lumix 12-35 lens. You cant repeat the same focus pulling because speed of rotating matter to. If im right tamron use same method.
her we go again . welcome back 😉
Great review. I have to look into getting that Laowa 12mm lens. Don’t worry, I’ll look at your affiliate link but I won’t use it 😉
Bought the lens 2 weeks ago. No regrets on my regular pocket 6k
are you having dust issues yet?
Do you need to buy an adapter for the 6k Pro for the Sigma 24 - 70 ?
Im a bit confused.. are the Sigma 24-70 lenses for canon stabelised and the same lens with Sony FE mount are not?
Wow, you're back!!!!
Which Canon 24-105 you tested (Version I or II)? I am shocked to see how dark the image gets as you zoomed in! that is a shame I was thinking about buying that lens (both for Video and Photo).
Can anyone confirm?
The 24-70 on a bmpcc6k pro
Is now a 36-105?
loved the conclusion :)
hi good show! I have question. I watched this vide plethora times. I have canon r. I want to use 4k but has crop of 1.7 would you suggest the sigma 1835 1.8? I believe this lens was designed to correct canon r 4k crop. I was actually very interested with sigma 2485 2.8 for daily use 1080p.
Great review!
Are you using these lenses on your 12K? Also, I am wondering if you have ever tried the IRIX lenses?
Love the channel. Thinking of going with the Pocket 6k Pro with your recommended lens for an in-house corporate position but the lack of auto-focus scares me. Your shots just don't seem to lose focus. Is that just practice or selective editing? My biggest issue in the past is just not being able to tell if I was in focus or not, especially while outside in the sun.
I recommend it even though it doesn’t have auto focus. There is focus peaking which outlines what’s in focus so that helps me. I don’t like auto focus cameras usually because it always seems to be hunting. I’m old school
If you get a crane 2s pro for instance, which is amazing and pretty cheap, you can do it very well manually without being scared.
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Just snagged me a Sigma Art 24-70 2.8 OS from eBay. Needed something to sit in between my 18-35 and 70-200.
those birds were going in this video 😂
I don't know why you wanted me to go search for the lens I want to buy instead of just clicking on the link but that extra effort and my laziness saved me a bunch of money so, thanks, I guess.
Thanks man
Thank you!
Any opinion about the SIGMA 50-100 lens?
The 50-100 is my favorite and I use it more than any other lens
Hey, Great video! Wondering why you would go with the sigma 24-70 over the tamron? Is there any noticeable differences
Just the price
Quick question, which light are you using for this video? Not many lights are powerful enough to properly light a subject in sunlight... Ap 600d? The new evoke 1200?
Hey! For this video I just used a big white bounce and was backlit from the sun! If I used a light outside I would have needed like 2 600Ds instead. When it’s a bright sunny day I usually just use the sun .
Great vid!! Just wondering what ND filters were used toward the end in that lovely orangey sunny street?
Just the built in NDs
@@EpicLightMedia thankyou
love this channel!
Which one are you prefer, sigma or canon lenses?
It depends! I like some canon and some Sony
Awesome video
Which one has better stabilization, sigma or tamron? Why is the sigma your favorite over the tamron?
I like it cause it’s cheaper. It was close
@@EpicLightMedia thanks for the swift reply
Hi man great Video! One question :Right in the middle of upgrading to the 6k pro!
On the pocket 4k I used the Tamron 24-70 with a speed booster and found the range not wide enough with (eq. 34mm) .. on the 6k the 24-70 is even tighter (eq 38mm) how do u feel about that ... That's why I got my eyes on the Tamron 15-30 .. what do u think on the focal range of the 24-70 don't u feel it's to tight ? And would u rather do 15-30 +48mm prime or 18mm prime +24-70 :)
Thanks man the video is really awesome
So you didnt use the 0.64 metabones on the 4k? 24mm should equal 29 with the 1,2x
@@warnjoke I used the viltrox 0.71 speed booster that made my 24 to a 34 equivalent... Wich was just to tight ... That's why I'm asking as he says the best one is 24-70 Wich is 38 mm without a booster on a super 35 ... Wich is even tighter than I had it .. so that's why I asked why the Tamron 15-30 isnt better suited in his opinion :)
Commenting just to say thank you ELM, you're the best !
What about the Canon 18-55? Or the 18-300 lol
Thank you for this awesome video. I am looking to get few of this cameras for live streaming (church on sunday) and I was looking for some options for lenses. We already have 70-200 f4 and 24-105 f4. But I am looking for a lens if there is an option in the 20-300 mm range. I know this kind of lens is slow, but having this focal lengths at least for one camera would be good. (for now we are using GH5's but I would like to transition to blackmagic cameras paired with Atem mini extreme ISO)
I highly recommend the sigma 150-600
@@EpicLightMedia I would like to have the options film wide and then zoom in to max 300, so we can cover different scenarios for live streaming.
@@sergiubn What you're looking for sounds more like an ENG lens. Adapting that to this camera might not work very well, but the URSA Broadcast is made to mount one. In my opinion you would run into more trouble trying to use a still lens in this range. I also understand that your budget might not allow for that.
Very intresting, but they are almost all full frame lenses on super 35 sensor... Kind of a waste of money if you have to buy new
My top pick for apsc/s35 sensor is sigma 17-50 2.8 - I bought it over the 18-35 for the bigger focal range and stabilization :)
The build quality is bad and the focus ring super annoying, but man is that lens a jack of all trades... I use it a lot!
for strictly indoor video use would the 17-50 2.8 be better than the 18-35 1.8?
@@electronicfellows2113 if you can't bring lights, I would take 18-35 just for the extra stop of light. But if you can control the light (and need longer reach) go for 17-50
@@JanChoc thank you!
Few more that I've tested. The Canon EF L 24-70 f4. I.S on that one is great as is the image. Better than the 24-105. It's cheap too.
Mega cheap (£200) canon EF-S 10-18 I.S. Very light , variable aputure. (F4.5-5.6)
Also, the canon EF-S 17-55 f2.8 I.S.
It's almost scary how i was thinking about this for the last few weeks and then i watch this video... I have one question, is the Sigma your fav. because its OS is better than the Tamrons? I've watched christopher frosts video and he said that its a bit janky for video... I appreciate your Work, thanks for these great videos brother. Sincerest regards from germany
I couldn’t tell the difference so I went with sigma because it’s cheaper
@@EpicLightMedia Thanks
is all this with a speedbooster?
No
Just out of curiosity, has anyone had their lens with IS like stutter when in movement? There will be times when I flip the IS mode on the image on the back of my 6K Pro will shift up and down making IS unusable for me.
I hate it when someone tells me not to do something! Makes me want to do it even more! Haha
Luv u Thomas
This is EXACTLY the video I needed (Just bought the RED Komodo and it shakes as hell).
Hello from the future! Every lens mentioned is now obsolete when it comes to stabilization (although they're still great lenses), as the BMPCC 6K Pro (as well as 6K and 4K) now have internal gyroscopic stabilization that (in my humble opinion) is vastly superior to any lens stabilization. However, for it to work, you have to disable the lens stabilization...
Yeah, obviously the fstop changes when you zoom on a stills lens. You need a constant aperture tstop lens for cinematography.
Big disclaimer. Not all Tamron lenses work well with BMD.
Which combo are you using to film the speaking portion? I love the amount of bokeh in the background
Ursa G1 with sigma cine 18-35 T2
@@EpicLightMedia wow! Thanks for the response!
I guess the only downside to the Sigma 24-70 is the focus breathing.
The tampon 17-30 was much brighter than canon lol
This Video is Sponsored by Sigma....There is no exposure changing in in 24-105 zoom in and out..
Is there a reason you didn't use or test the Canon 2.8 24-70? Just curious. Doing my best to not subscribe!
The canon doesn’t have IS
Sorry, I gave you a thumbs up... 🙃
I disagree here. As with the BMPCC test which you rated the original battery grip at 1 hour (which is 2 hours really, I own it and use it all the time and habe tested it) the Sigmas are optically beautiful lenses but their OS is not smooth at all for video. While we appreciate these tests and fun videos the informations should be more accurate. After testing these lenses too I find the original 24-105 L lens to have the most natural IS for handheld shooting.
Nothing on my channel is accurate actually. Being accurate is for Gerald Undone. There is tons of misinformation on this channel…I keep telling people to stop watching for a reason. I know I have a responsibility as a creator to be accurate with information but I don’t care.
@@EpicLightMedia ok