Which is THE BEST? | Fender Jimmy Page Telecaster Mirror + Dragon Review + Demo
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
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0:00 - Intro - Check Links in the Description
0:28 - Mirror Tele Unboxing
4:24 - Dragon Tele Unboxing
8:49 - Inside Look / Spec Comparison
21:39 - Blind Tone Test
23:44 - Tone Test
28:07 - Final Thoughts
📚 Description: I've been having people ask me to review the Jimmy Page Telecasters for a long time... however, a recent NGD purchase of the USA Jimmy Page Mirror Tele prompted me to buy it and the Dragon Tele to do a side-by-side comparison video. At first, I just bought the dragon to illustrate the story, but I was so impressed by the Dragon Tele that I went for the double review.
In the end - the USA Tele was the clear winner... but is it $1100 better? Only you can answer that question. Some slightly better pickups in the Dragon, a PLEK and fretboard rolling would get it very close... but then you're almost at the same price as the USA. It is all a feel thing for me! My choice is the Mirror Jimmy Page Tele.
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Cool Review(s).
Rubber Grommet = Surgical Tubing (seriously, that is what they use).
Merry Christmas Austin, thank you for you content.
Lets see them compared to the Terry Kath CHICAGO Fender Baja Telecaster Tribute. Kinda apples and oranges, but circles, man.
@@vlady8me that thing is as hideous as either of these two. The mirrored is fine if you junk all the mirrors. And a mirrored Tele will always be a Syd thing in my book.
After listening to the demo the American Tele/Pickups sound a little fuller with more authority.
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Nothing sold more LP's than Jimmy Page's Telecaster..
You mean albums or Les Pauls?
😂
@@josemariareyes3448 Both..
Yeah that’s a good way to think about it.
Also, many double neck Gibsons owe their sales to a Fender 12 string Strat.
Well almost sold more. Slash saved the whole Gibson company.
All my kids pitched in and got me the Dragon Tele for my big Christmas gift. 😢I was overwhelmed to say the least. I really love it. Sounds great. No complaints. It's my number 1. Thanks Jimmy P! You brought joy to this dad.
Merry Christmas, Page actually recorded quite a bit with a Tele.
The stairway to heaven solo was recorded on a tele
Yep and the majority of the time recording and live, the 58and mostly the 59 Gibson Les paul. the telecaster just wouldn't have cut it live with the brutal volume of Led Zeppelin.
@@CaptainCraigKWMRZ "You Shook Me" was recorded with a Gibson Flying V. Id kill to have seen that.
Jimmy is much more a Fender player than people give him credit for. Not only on many Zep recordings even after Zep he played his brown Tele B-Bender as his number 1. Page used his Les Paul's live for more output. With that being said, he would have his toggle switch on both pick ups to get simular Tele sounds lol.
The saying goes, "Page's Telecaster sold a ton of Les Paul's"!
First Zep album: telecaster
Stairway solo: telecaster
Ten years gone solo: telecaster
Ten Years Gone was a strat no?
You Shook Me is a Flying V.
@@adolfoholguin8169 Nope, Tele.
@@Zoso_1990 Flying V!!!
First coincidentally opening my first tele for Christmas in a few hours a deluxe
Awesome and Congrats, a very good Christmas for you Harry.
Got my first Tele this Christmas as well! I hope yours makes you as happy as mine did. I know it will. Merry Christmas.
Wow! What a gift.
please ...be sure to remove all the staples from the box BEFORE sliding the case out
Jimmy Page had one of the greatest Telecaster tones in rock! "Led Zeppelin 1" is all Telecaster, and it's fantastic. In fact, that is Page's strength as a player imo.....his ability to coax amazing tones from his guitars. "Physical Graffiti" for instance, is a master class in stunning guitar tones.
That's an interesting comment. Ive never thought it out but I guess you're right.
There's just so many different sounds he has. I think it's more varied than anyone. I think some of it is in the recording process. But what's a Jimmy Page rhythm sound? Which one there's too many.
My favorite Page sound is after the breakdown on Heartbreaker
@@bobbiemiles-foremaniii8747 Yeah, “Heartbreaker” has a few cracking tones on there! The intro to “Ten Years Gone” is the best clean humbucker tone I’ve ever heard. And “The Rover” is like “Heartbreaker”, with the number of amazing guitar tones in one song!
Reportedly: Jimmy recorded a ton of Zep songs on a tele through a Supro amp. The Rig didn't work well on stage so the LP & Marshalls took over for live performances...
He said he chose Marshall amps because of their reliability and if something did go wrong, he would be able to find a replacement no matter where he was touring around the world.
JImmy really liked the Supro (he modified) for recording in Zep. He used it quite a bit on the first three albums and a fair amount on the fourth. The Tele was used in his Yardbird days playing guitar (before that he played bass) and pretty much all you hear on the first few albums (as far as electric goes) is the Tele. Not to be forgotten Jimmy's solo's playing with the Violin Bow started with the Tele and his big bends on the earlier recordings use to push down behind the nut on the high E & B strings to get that trem/ bend effect that is hard to do on a LP.
Tele truly doesn't get the respect it should being played on Zep albums. LP is fantastic but all has it's place. EVen his 59 Danelectro (Kashmir)
@@dlewtweentorla1210 So true, David! Studios have the album shaping ability, stage is a different congress... Buzzy guitars, delay though long cables, effect malfunctions.... It all leads to "Management" taking over....
Maybe the band would have put out something different in later years, but "management" pushed the group to the point...
I often think of the Pink Floyd lyric of 1980, "You may feel a little pin prick, is there anyone home".
Tele is , in my mind, a Zeppelin standard.
@@edwardmonsariste4050 Sure, why wouldn't you when you are touring??
@@electroKrunch That was from The Wall album circa 1979, and the lyrics aren’t in order, but point taken :)
I actually own the dragon tele model and absolutely love it, for 1400 bucks it’s definitely worth the money in my opinion
Is the art a decal?
does yours have that much checking on the neck? mine hardly has any...
I ADORE my Mirror Tele. I can't hardly put it down. I won't put the mirrors on it though because the finish is just so awesome I can't bring myself to do it. I actually think the mirrors look stupid but man without them it's a BEAUTIFUL Tele.
they look stupid anyway imho. something to do with witchcraft anyway.
Stairway to heaven solo was recorded using a telecaster
AND his Fender 12.
"Whole Lotta Love" and "Rain Song".
@@markjamesmeli2520 Vox phantom xll
You’re the first person to mention this under a Jimmy Page video
@@Zeppelin180 I know I'm edgy af
Towards the end of another year, almost 4 years of watching this channel, learned so much, seen so much, and I never get tired of it, whether or not you see this I just want to say thank you since you edit these videos yourself and this is your job, we appreciate it, keep up the good work, have a brilliant Christmas and a happy new year too.
Here here!
I agree. This is fantastic content that would not be available without the tech we take for granted and I am grateful for Austin's willingness to put the work in to share his passion and knowledge with the world. It's a tremendous thing.
I love it too but the playing is rough.
@@IrisGalaxis i remember this channel back before the "headless sg" became one of the most popular video by him. Time sure flies
"In case you're not familiar with who he is" If you don't know who Jimmy Page is, put your guitar down and don't pick it back up until you know who he is :)
One word, Kashmir
Enough said
@@truckercowboyed2638 kasmire got my into zeplin but what got me playing was dazed and confused live 1969
100% right Thor. It should be a written rule lol.
In the studio he used multiple guitars. And you can tell by the tones on the album he used the Tele quite often. Live he favored Gibson LP and double neck SG. But live (to me) never sounded the same or as good as the studio. This was because of Jimmy’s sound engineering magic. He did things in the studio that would be pretty much impossible to play live, unless you use feeds like some newer groups do. Anyway I grew up in through the late 60’s and early 70’s (my high school years) and Jimmy was the biggest influence on my guitar playing.
Thanks so much for breaking down and doing a demo on both guitars! I've been so curious about these models. I think this is my favorite Trogly video of the year!
Thank you for finally taking a look at these great guitars. I love my Dragon Tele, very versatile instrument
I searched all over the interwebs for the actual neck dimensions of these models and then I remembered that you always take measurements so I tuned into this video. i got the info that I was looking for and a whole lot more. I love your videos. I ended up picking up a used USA mirror version. Thanks for the work you put into your content!
Merry Christmas and great video as always!
Been waiting for you to review these for almost 2 years. THANK YOU TROGLY
I know you're a Gibson specialist, but I love when you review other makers. Always fun to hear what features/specifications appeal to you or things that surprised you.
Merry Christmas Austin!
The mirror one will be in my house in a couple days!! Cant wait. Great video between the two thank you!
I've been waiting for this for over a year and what a great Christmas present this is
Great comparo video. Thank you for all of your hard work, extra hard when doing two. Happy holidays and a prosperous new year.
You should definitely check out the Fender “Road Worn” series! They were mim guitars with a very light paint and clear nitro coat so it wears away vert quickly so it doesn’t take years to get that “road worn” look and feel.
The Nashville deluxe tele is a screaming deal as well....
I got one a t a pawn shop for $250. I guess that thought it was just a beat up guitar.
Merry Christmas Trogly, hope you and your family have a great time!
Fender and Wildwood came up with a “Ready to Relic” nitrocellulose formula and it’s a pretty neat idea. The guitars age a lot faster but look brand new at first. I wouldn’t be surprised if Fender started using it on a lot more “Vintage Style” guitars. Optional of course.
I just got a “Mary Kaye” Custom Shop 57 Closet Classic Strat for Christmas. I can’t wait for it to start wearing in. One piece ash bodies are fantastic!
Ive been waiting for this video. Merrry Christmas Troglodytes!
Merry Xmas Austin. Nice job on the review/comparison/demo. Must say your playing is much improved since 1st tine saw you.
One of my favorite Jimmy’s, stairway to heaven was the first song I played on a acoustic guitar. Thank you for spot lighting one of my favorite guitarist and band. Since I’ve been loving you. No quarter, tea for one and dazed and confused are my favorite especially live at the garden. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
Congrats on 170k and merry christmas!
It's really something to admire when a wood cutout gets different colors.
Really interesting to see them side by side. Fab review!
The dragon caster appears on LZ 1 and the Untitled 4th album, StH solo
Great comparison and playing, thanks for the upload.
Merry Christmas all! 😃Cheers from Newfoundland
Merry Christmas!
How ya gettin' on? Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas, thanks for all you do, kind regards from Mike in Melbourne
niiiice. havent watched the video yet but i have been waiting for this specific video since march of last year
I have a dragon tele, and im in love! I was waiting for a proper review of this guitar
ive wanted the dragon tele for so long and im glad to see a review on it
I just tried the white one today. Plays lovely and was very well set up. I never thought a 7.25 inch neck radius would play like this..even did some David Gilmour bends on it with no fretting out issues at all! Very impressed with the quality and sound.
Waking up to Trogly's show on Christmas is pretty awesome. I hope you have a good one man. ::)
I laughed when you said that people would prefer the MIM neck in the review and then completely changed your opinion after the playing demo. Also your playing demo was great in this one. Very nice!
Nicely done. One of your best.
Woo Hoo! I was afraid we weren't going to get a Christmas episode. Kind of strange that Trogs would do one on such an obscure guitarist, but still glad to get it. Merry Christmas to Mr. Trogly and all the Troglydytes!
Your playing is just great!
The neck on my MIM Dragon tle is just the same, aged checking around the headstock and a semi satin finish on the neck, however that plays to a kind of gloss pretty quickly because you can't stop playing these guitars, they feel and sound amazing. My favourite guitar to play possibly ever, and the sound of the Jimmy Page pickups is so accurate when you use them with a vox.
Merry christmas Trogly!!
Merry Christmas
I'm Dazed and Confused!!!! Happy Holidays Trogly!!!!
Happy Holidays Trogly !
that ash is so nice in that finish being natural
Great review!!!
I'm using high quality headphones and during the blind test, I thought the mirror tele sounded significantly better. It had a more open, fuller sound, like night and day.
Me too.
I've got the Mirror Tele and it's seriously awesome. I've played the Dragon one as well and it felt like total trash to me. Beauty is of course in the eye of the beholder though.
your so right Larry, during the blind test I thought to myself whatever the blue Trogly is, is the winner lol. I'll get the Mirror one for sure its $1100 more for a lot of reasons. If you want the Dragon kool look I can understand the people that do. Id rather spend the money for what I really want. I gotta get one lol.
Awesome Christmas surprise!!!!
Love the channel merry Xmas hope you your family have a good one
I agree on which is the better fuller sounding guitar. Thanks for doing these videos. Often you remind me of songs I used to play and forgot about. I actually pulled out my American Special to compare while you had those on the bench. Of course I started banging away some tunes by Clapton and by Page. Thanks for your diligence in bringing these videos to life. I've been watching I think I've purchased at least 5 guitars most new except one that needs a bit of TLC. Merry Christmas.
I would love to have the white one. I’m merry Christmas Trogly. Thanks for all the content. I haven’t made it to the end yet, but hoping to head the tele through a supro.
It was never about jimmy’s lead playing for me.. I always loved his production and orchestration. Rain Song, Ten Years Gone, In My Time of Dying, Stairway. He always had a wonderful ability to write intricate parts and pair those parts with bold and strange guitar tones. He’s not like a Slash or a Brian May where you can pin one guitar on him… he had a lot of tools in his tool box.
I’ve been waiting for this video for a long time...
Nice, detailed comparison, thanks!
digging the demo playing on this one! i'm feeling the dragon one. i like the look of the dragon over the natural wood grain.
That pickguard swap is on point
MERRY CHRISTMAS TROGLY!!!
Excellent review!
Thank you Trogly, I've owned the dragon tele for a year and was always hoping you might review it and give more info. Like you, I was shocked by the checking on the neck when I got it but glad to know it's sort of a feature rather than a fault, the board was so nice and dark on mine I was never going to send it back. The body was originally mean't to be nitro but they changed last minute much to the annoyance of many as the price remained the same. I can only assume they were concerned about how a nitro finish might interact with the decal underneath.
Got a great deal on the white one. LOVE IT!
Merry Christmas Troglydytes!
MERRY CHRISTMAS TROGLY!
Love the Dragon. It looks so mysterious.
Dayum! Nice pickin' Trogly!
A need that dragon🐉tele in me life ......a true bit of rock n roll history 🤘
Merry Christmas!
Happy Holidays! Was curious what you use for conditioning your fret board? Thanks!
Merry Christmas to the Trogly family
Great video. I think the reason why the neck is road worn on the dragon is because it was more used by the time the white tele became the dragon tele, after all they were the same guitar. Also from what i've read and heard on different videos they're the same pickups just branded different, which would make sense cause once again they were the same guitar. I went with the dragon model because it's unique, i mean you can always get a white tele 😀 mine also has a thicker sound, they probably aimed that sound with those models, a thicker sound was also one of the reason why i went with that one. After your video i examined mine and found that luckily mine seems to be a one piece ash body with some small marks in the wood which probably wouldn't happen with the usa model. However they're not visible on the first look and are only present at the back and the side. I really had to search for them to see. Didn't have any issues with the rosewood fingerboard or the neck, comfortable for me but i usually never have any issues with guitar necks unless they're v shaped or painted. After watching your video i gave it a second close look and still found it comfortable. However i should mention that the fingerboard doesn't sound as dark as the others rosewood fretboards that i've played with but since i always prefer maple no issues there for me, it sounds somewhere between maple and rosewood. And i also got some sharp frets but i've seen it with other usa models too. The only thing i truly disliked about both models is the bridge, those saddles are a pain in the ass, after wanting to keep it original for some time i finally ordered a 6 saddle bridge. Overall i would say thay the positive side of this beast heavily outweighs the negative side. Cheers 😀
Great video of Jimmy playing the Dragon with the Yardbirds Dazed and confused on UA-cam.A must see!
I got a mirror. It's the only non Les Paul guitar I have and I love it!
Pull those damn staples with a pair of pliers . . . they can do a worse gash to your arm.
Cool to have the different price points, nice to have the string through option. I'd love to know what your thoughts on aftermarket PAF clone pick ups is. DO you have a favorite? Hope you and your family have a great holidays!!!
Merry Christmas Brother. Thank you.
The USA Fender for me. :-)
I have one of the Dragon-Teles and I LOVE it! 🎸
Great „fat“/„warm“ sounding Tele Singlecoil-Pickups - oh it’s one of my favourites!
Christmas eve is not complete without a dose of Trogly!
Nice tones, nice pickin', great Fenders.
The neck on the dragon has a road worn lacquer finish. I had to fine sand mine a couple of times because it was sticky, but now it is smooth as silk.
I have the Dragon and love it, but the video made the white one sound so much better. I’ve been playing a Les Paul for years, but other than a brief period with a Squier Strat, this is my first Fender.
That dragon Telecaster pioneered zeps sound. Whole first album with a supro amp was recorded with this.
I hand built a replica of this guitar and it turned out awesome. Page used 8-38s for crazy bending on this guitar
And a borrowed Flying-V on You Shock Me.
Eights were pretty common back than as well, nines were heavy than, 10,11,etc are really only late eighties
@@mcamp9445 One common gauge back in the late 60's (Ernie Ball Rock and Rolls) was 10 on top and 38 on the low E, kinda like what Hendrix used.
@@mcamp9445 lol no
Quite a few players tuned down a half step to lower tension more than anything.
A singlecut LP Junior's factory strings were .14s, for example. Ernie Ball eventually did put out Slinkys but I doubt many outside of Nashville (which Jimmy was obsessed with) were running 8s at this time.
The trick of the day was tossing your wound G, buying a bajo string & using it as your E, moving the stock B & E to lower positions.
Still left one with bridge cables for bass strings.
I actually think I like better the sound of the dragon. Great demo as usual, merry christmas Trogly.
when i saw this video come up I was afraid it would make me miss the Dragon Tele I sold . Now i'm glad I sold it - keep up the great work man !! could you please do a review of some of the modern Tokai LS range ? thanks :)
Nice job on the riffs Austin!
Thanks for the review. Nice to know the difference. I got the dragon one when they came out. No regrets here though, I still think the dragon one looks cooler. Plus, for the price difference, I got myself the Epiphone tribute plus with the nut replaced for bone. Killer combo for any Page fan like me.
They BOTH sound VERY GOOD. I agree about the Page sounding better overall though. Very interesting.
For your love!
Trogly, from listening to Page in interviews and reading various articles, Jimmy stated he took the Mirrors off the Tele and painted the Dragon Motif ( he was an art student) when Zep started as a New and Fresh Start. Even his clothes changed, trying to show this new band was different and more than a continuation of the Yardbirds. Cheers! Thanks for what you do
The coil cable was included because Jimmy used it back in the day and he believed the coil and length changed the tone of the guitar.
Cable length when long enough does effect tone, they make pedals that simulate it
I have owned the Dragon Telecaster since may. It really needed fret polishing badly. Once that was done with a good setup for 9s, it has been rock solid in its performance. The thick neck takes some getting used to. Getting that Led Zeppelin 1 tone or (STH Solo tone) is very easy with this guitar. Its actually the nicest Mexican Fender I have ever played. Also, I believe it will be the last Mexican Fender to feature Rosewood on the neck.
I have the white one and it plays and sounds fantastic.
Nice Christmas present Austin. I got it right in the blind test, and to be honest I would have either guitar, but I would prefer the u.s. one.
The guitar was destroyed sometime in the mid to late 70s. He used the Dragon Tele for the Stairway To Heaven solo. He eventually took the neck off the guitar when it was ruined and used it on his brown telecaster with the B Bender, which he used live for Ten Years Gone. I heard he restored it a few years ago, which I presume was then used as a template for this reissue.
Didn't he record the absolute masterpiece Led Zeppelin debut with mostly a Telecaster?
Entirely with it. He didn't have the les Paul.
Were all (or most of) the songs on the supro?
He did have a three pickup Black Beauty since 1968, which was used extensively in LZ I and II, but yes, the Tele was his main live guitar (so, as a recording guitar that preference is also to be expected).
Also the stairway to heaven solo
The Tele was the most played on Zep I and II. Page played Les Pauls live for more output. Both The Tele and Les Paul make Led Zeppelin. I love both guitars.
That guitar came with a really nice chord, I use a orange cable like that.