Rich was neither Lutheran, nor Catholic. He was my youth leader in a Methodist church in Ky. He was Christian and identified with any Christian Faith. Love you Chard.
@@pammym190 He actually had completed RICA classes not once, but twice, and he was scheduled to be confirmed in the Catholic Church two days after his death.
@@thereseklopfenstein3398 I’m so sorry I didn’t get back to you sooner… I’m glad he was trying to become Catholic. I am Catholic as well!! I wish I could’ve have known Rich! I didn’t discover him until I watched the ragamuffin movie about 2-3yrs ago!! When I got to the end of the movie and it said he had passed away. I was like WHAAAAAAT?! In a lot of ways I’m kind of like him! But, in ways I’m not! So, anyway. Once I knew of him I did extensive research on him.. Abd ironically I am friends with a Catholic Priest. Who told me more about him and introduced me to his music!! Well, now I wonder what kind of musician he would be like today. As I wonder that of Buddy Holly as well! Well, God has him now. And his music will forever live on,😊✌️
I perfer to a follower of Jesus. Not man because, we all sin. 1John 5:1Whosoeverbelieveth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and everyone that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. 4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world, and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. 5 who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? [ So we are born again by that..
Wow, thank you for posting this. I was the interviewer here and I thought this conversation was lost forever. What a treat to find it again. Wish we had the original that aired a year or two before this, but this is pretty close. Thank you.
Chris, thanks so much for commenting! I'm glad you found the interview. On a personal note, this is my favorite interview of Rich's. You really did a great job! On an unrelated subject... are you by any chance the Chris Fabry who worked on the dramatic audio edition of the Left Behind series?
Chris Fabry Live Cool! Back in the day, I was a big fan of the dramatic audio of Left Behind. I listened to the entire series and remembered your name from the credits. To tell you the truth, I'm not really sure if it was recorded on cassette, though I imagine it probably was. Someone mailed me a copy of this several years back and by the time I received it, it had already been burned to CD. If you'd like a copy, I'd be happy to mail it to you, either to a physical address or e-mail. Take care!
I’m super happy to have come across this information for who rich was for it would’ve been a tragedy had I never heard and learned anything about him. RIP Rich Mullen’s god bless you now you sit in gods holy kingdom
I noticed that too....I had to push that comment out of my head so I could focus on the awesome things Rich was saying in the interview. He inspires me as a Christian to be myself no matter who or where I'm at.
Thank you for rebroadcasting this interview. I have been deeply affected by the loss of Rich, but his music and interviews still speak to me and are still extremely relevant and necessary in our world today. There is no one that can write music like him and I find it filled with the truth, hope and healing.
Thanks for this - he was a very special guy and i was blessed to use Rich and his band in concert here in England just before he returned to the States.Guess his work was done here on earth.
@@amyschlegel1180 I organised an outdoor event in Sussex and was blessed to have him and his band perform. I believe he was over in the UK with Word Music and he then went over to Ireland. It was just before he returned to the USA and his untimely death. He was a most humble individual .
@@popinjaykev Thank you! I know that Rich and the Ragamuffin Band performed concerts in Coleraine, Northern Ireland and Glasgow, Scotland in July 1996, so that must have been around the same time! Do you know whether he performed in Sussex before those other concerts or after? Did Rich perform anywhere else in England on that trip? Did you get much of a turnout at the concert in Sussex? Did people know who he was? Thank you so much again!
His music moves me in a way that the Lord wants us to be. His grace to be out on NM to live among the Navajo's... He will not be missed, Jesus rest his soul into your arms.
Mitch McVicker SINGS and plays GUITAR (he may play drums, but when you see him in videos with Rich, he is on guitar). I think that is him walking behind Rich in this picture, but kind of blurry. It looks like him to me. God bless you all! Thank you for this, I much enjoyed!!💜😇🎶💜🕊✝️
Great to hear him here and always. Rich was such a student of so many things & really knowldgeable (ironic that i can't spell that right now! :)), that informed & infused his music. No clue what the dj meant about not agreeing with a a few things theologically? Maybe i'm just remembering it wrong :)
I agree, I can’t imagine what the interviewer meant by not agreeing with Rich Mullins theologically. Rich is so knowledgeable and backs his commentary with scripture.
I would suspect the concept of being saved at the time of baptism not the moment of believing that only Christ’s perfect finished cross work is sufficient to make us righteous in the eyes of a holy just God would be one of those. Somewhat like the Robertsons of Duck Dynasty fame being traditional Church of Christ in doctrine, they want to get souls baptized immediately to “wash away sins and let rebirth occur upon emerging from the waters of baptism. I have come to believe that the moment of belief as Paul refers to so often is the moment we are transformed and placed into the body of Christ and made a new creation as 2 Corinthians 5 describes the old passing away and the new coming into existence. The Church of Christ and Rich’s church would be saved at the moment of believing in that sacrifice whether they acknowledge it only at the time of immersion. As Rich says thank God that we aren’t blessed according to our understanding but according to the love and mercy and goodness of the Godhead Father Son and Holy Spirit. The catholic who believes when the bread and wine are consumed we are changed also acknowledge we can’t add anything to Christ’s sacrifice and what we do we do in our concept of obedience , the heart is always in step even of the brain and understanding may lag or take time to understand properly. Like breathing oxygen , we don’t have to understand the process, we just have to breath and be alive as we must believe we are who God says we are, and of our need for being declared and seen as righteous by the Creator and Master and Sustainer of the Universe. Thank you so much for this precious video and the belief of Rich Mullins in a new birth and forgiveness of sins and being at peace with our Redeemer! 🔥🔥🙏🏼⚡️🥲💯
Also listen to a Randy Travis recorded song “ Pray for the Fish” to get a picture of the event Rich said his church believes in or the Church of Christ. Again, I believe these people are saved as they believe in Christ’s perfect cross work alone as our payment of a sin debt in the slave market of sin redeeming with the perfect shed blood of Christ Jesus on that old Rugged Cross. Peace of Christ to all and I can’t wait to get to eternity to praise with Rich and Fanny Crosby and all who are in the body of Christ.
Listening to this on April 14, 2016. Looking at some of the posts about him becoming Catholic I chuckle as I always thought he sounded "Lutheran". I still love listening to him music and talking.
westsidewarrior1972 I don't know why some want to say that he had plans to become Catholic, although they probably get this from his production of Canticle of the Plains and that he was attending a Catholic church on the reservation because there were no other choices. His family and close friends knew of no such plans.
Scott Hahn, catholic scholar was very good friends and he knew he was being baptised right before his death and scott hahn says it publicly. Cant blame Rich , bc he was studying the early church fathers and if u study them well, one might become a catholic. 😄
Probably because the priest of the Church he attended received a phone call from Rich right before his death after he had attended daily mass for a while at that parish and was taking RCIA that he wanted to officially receive first communion and other introductory sacraments that year. Its not a rumor nor something for anyone to argue about. It just a fact.
Your comments are wrong on many levels. First of all, Rich chose to attend daily Mass at St. Michael's Mission on the reservation because he wanted to, not because "there were no other choices." On several occasions in 1997 he also drove six hours each way to attend Sunday evening Mass at St. Timothy's Catholic Church in Mesa, Arizona. Many of Rich's close friends were very aware of his plans to convert to Catholicism because he discussed it with them frequently. He even told the Kruse family, with whom he stayed the last three weeks of his life, that he planned to convert. They were Protestant and not particularly happy to hear this, but they have verified it nonetheless.
I respect he wanted to become Catholic but the Disciples and early Church Fathers were preaching based on Judaism + Good News = citing Yeshua's teachings and Prophets. The Catholic Church did not formally organize until the 4th Century and immediately Messianic Christians were martyred. God knew what he was doing, things are coming full circle. Many Catholic Ceremonies mirror things done much earlier.
Not just the week following his death, but two days later! Rich was scheduled to make a general confession of his life to (now) Archbishop Paul Coakley on Sat. Sept, 20, 1997 and to receive the Sacraments of Confirmation and First Holy Communion at the Newman Center at Wichita State University on Sun. Sept. 21, 1997. Of course, when God took him, Rich was already a Catholic in his heart!
Rich belonged to Christ. Period. Rich was smart to play cool how a religious order appeared to respect Christ while he was drawn to teach on a reservation where his audience was vulnerable, open, and hungry - just like Rich. Perhaps, the providence of God knew the political knife of religion would pierce Rich's faith unaware when Catholic criminal murders of child sacrifices, horror of pedofiles, and more atrocities upon Indian children on reservations for centuries within these religious halls underground was exposed in Ireland during 2009. Rich's sensitive critical thinking skills - after surrendering into Christ's Grace - was a waiting target to take him down, but Abba intervened.
I don't believe in catholicism.I believe in Jesus,the son of the living God who was crucified,laid in a tomb and resurrected the third day.If someone brings you another gospel than was preached to you don't let them into your house.Do not be partakers of their sins.
Um that's what Catholics actually believe. That is so entirely what we believe in the most public way that we publicly at mass say the creed "I believe" "I believe in one God, the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible. I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son of God, born of the Father before all ages. God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father; through him all things were made. For us men and for our salvation he came down from heaven, and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary, and became man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate, he suffered death and was buried, and rose again on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead and his kingdom will have no end. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son, who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified, who has spoken through the prophets. I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church. I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. Amen.[1]" So yeah no "different gospel" being preached just the same gospel that was preached before other gospels existed.
Rich was neither Lutheran, nor Catholic. He was my youth leader in a Methodist church in Ky. He was Christian and identified with any Christian Faith. Love you Chard.
At the end of his life, Rich was definitely a Catholic!!
@@thereseklopfenstein3398 I agree! He had just about finished the RCIA classes.. he wanted to be Catholic
@@pammym190 He actually had completed RICA classes not once, but twice, and he was scheduled to be confirmed in the Catholic Church two days after his death.
@@thereseklopfenstein3398 I’m so sorry I didn’t get back to you sooner… I’m glad he was trying to become Catholic. I am Catholic as well!! I wish I could’ve have known Rich! I didn’t discover him until I watched the ragamuffin movie about 2-3yrs ago!! When I got to the end of the movie and it said he had passed away. I was like WHAAAAAAT?!
In a lot of ways I’m kind of like him! But, in ways I’m not!
So, anyway. Once I knew of him I did extensive research on him.. Abd ironically I am friends with a Catholic Priest. Who told me more about him and introduced me to his music!!
Well, now I wonder what kind of musician he would be like today. As I wonder that of Buddy Holly as well! Well, God has him now. And his music will forever live on,😊✌️
I perfer to a follower of Jesus. Not man because, we all sin. 1John 5:1Whosoeverbelieveth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and everyone that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. 4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world, and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. 5 who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? [ So we are born again by that..
Wow, thank you for posting this. I was the interviewer here and I thought this conversation was lost forever. What a treat to find it again. Wish we had the original that aired a year or two before this, but this is pretty close. Thank you.
Chris, thanks so much for commenting! I'm glad you found the interview. On a personal note, this is my favorite interview of Rich's. You really did a great job! On an unrelated subject... are you by any chance the Chris Fabry who worked on the dramatic audio edition of the Left Behind series?
Ragamuffin Archive Yes, that was me. I did some of the scripts for those. Was this recorded on a cassette?
Chris Fabry Live
Cool! Back in the day, I was a big fan of the dramatic audio of Left Behind. I listened to the entire series and remembered your name from the credits. To tell you the truth, I'm not really sure if it was recorded on cassette, though I imagine it probably was. Someone mailed me a copy of this several years back and by the time I received it, it had already been burned to CD. If you'd like a copy, I'd be happy to mail it to you, either to a physical address or e-mail. Take care!
Gee, his tender voice moves toward my Lord. He has a lots of wisdom.
His grace 🙌 leads me to persevere ~~~
Great interview! Rich will always be remembered.
Beautiful
I’m super happy to have come across this information for who rich was for it would’ve been a tragedy had I never heard and learned anything about him. RIP Rich Mullen’s god bless you now you sit in gods holy kingdom
I noticed that too....I had to push that comment out of my head so I could focus on the awesome things Rich was saying in the interview. He inspires me as a Christian to be myself no matter who or where I'm at.
Thank you for rebroadcasting this interview. I have been deeply affected by the loss of Rich, but his music and interviews still speak to me and are still extremely relevant and necessary in our world today. There is no one that can write music like him and I find it filled with the truth, hope and healing.
Thanks for posting this!
When Rich talks, we still hear Jesus through every sentence...
Thanks for this - he was a very special guy and i was blessed to use Rich and his band in concert here in England just before he returned to the States.Guess his work was done here on earth.
Guess his work is much like the book of PSALMS ~~~ and his blessings continue to flow~~~
@@sharonschall9226 Beautiful response Sharon
I didn't know that Rich and his band performed in England! When and where did you see Rich in England?
@@amyschlegel1180 I organised an outdoor event in Sussex and was blessed to have him and his band perform. I believe he was over in the UK with Word Music and he then went over to Ireland. It was just before he returned to the USA and his untimely death. He was a most humble individual .
@@popinjaykev Thank you! I know that Rich and the Ragamuffin Band performed concerts in Coleraine, Northern Ireland and Glasgow, Scotland in July 1996, so that must have been around the same time! Do you know whether he performed in Sussex before those other concerts or after? Did Rich perform anywhere else in England on that trip? Did you get much of a turnout at the concert in Sussex? Did people know who he was? Thank you so much again!
I was a HUGE Open Line fan! And a HUGE Rich fan! What a treat to find this!
Lovely interview! Music great! Thanks for posting!
His music moves me in a way that the Lord wants us to be. His grace to be out on NM to live among the Navajo's... He will not be missed, Jesus rest his soul into your arms.
enjoying listening to this fascinating interview
Mitch McVicker SINGS and plays GUITAR (he may play drums, but when you see him in videos with Rich, he is on guitar). I think that is him walking behind Rich in this picture, but kind of blurry. It looks like him to me. God bless you all! Thank you for this, I much enjoyed!!💜😇🎶💜🕊✝️
That’s actually Rich’s co-writer Beaker on guitar behind Rich in that photo… It’s from my brothers keeper music video
@@RagamuffinArchive Thanks so much! He's not often seen, and I don't have as clear a vision of him as I do of Mitch M. "Be God's" 💞
i loves the song sang rich mullins, and i just found out that his in the FATHER.
Great to hear him here and always. Rich was such a student of so many things & really knowldgeable (ironic that i can't spell that right now! :)), that informed & infused his music. No clue what the dj meant about not agreeing with a a few things theologically? Maybe i'm just remembering it wrong :)
amylh322 - I am trying to figure the differences in theology comment too.
I agree, I can’t imagine what the interviewer meant by not agreeing with Rich Mullins theologically. Rich is so knowledgeable and backs his commentary with scripture.
I would suspect the concept of being saved at the time of baptism not the moment of believing that only Christ’s perfect finished cross work is sufficient to make us righteous in the eyes of a holy just God would be one of those. Somewhat like the Robertsons of Duck Dynasty fame being traditional Church of Christ in doctrine, they want to get souls baptized immediately to “wash away sins and let rebirth occur upon emerging from the waters of baptism. I have come to believe that the moment of belief as Paul refers to so often is the moment we are transformed and placed into the body of Christ and made a new creation as 2 Corinthians 5 describes the old passing away and the new coming into existence. The Church of Christ and Rich’s church would be saved at the moment of believing in that sacrifice whether they acknowledge it only at the time of immersion. As Rich says thank God that we aren’t blessed according to our understanding but according to the love and mercy and goodness of the Godhead Father Son and Holy Spirit. The catholic who believes when the bread and wine are consumed we are changed also acknowledge we can’t add anything to Christ’s sacrifice and what we do we do in our concept of obedience , the heart is always in step even of the brain and understanding may lag or take time to understand properly. Like breathing oxygen , we don’t have to understand the process, we just have to breath and be alive as we must believe we are who God says we are, and of our need for being declared and seen as righteous by the Creator and Master and Sustainer of the Universe. Thank you so much for this precious video and the belief of Rich Mullins in a new birth and forgiveness of sins and being at peace with our Redeemer! 🔥🔥🙏🏼⚡️🥲💯
Also listen to a Randy Travis recorded song “ Pray for the Fish” to get a picture of the event Rich said his church believes in or the Church of Christ. Again, I believe these people are saved as they believe in Christ’s perfect cross work alone as our payment of a sin debt in the slave market of sin redeeming with the perfect shed blood of Christ Jesus on that old Rugged Cross. Peace of Christ to all and I can’t wait to get to eternity to praise with Rich and Fanny Crosby and all who are in the body of Christ.
I know Jesus said that little children 's angels always behold their face before the Father God.
Listening to this on April 14, 2016. Looking at some of the posts about him becoming Catholic I chuckle as I always thought he sounded "Lutheran". I still love listening to him music and talking.
Rich believed in the love of Jesus regardless (or in spite of) denomination. He belonged to Jesus.
Grateful for this being preserved and all that, but “drummer Mitch McVicker”???? Drummer?
knowledgeable. Good grief. :)
westsidewarrior1972
I don't know why some want to say that he had plans to become Catholic, although they probably get this from his production of Canticle of the Plains and that he was attending a Catholic church on the reservation because there were no other choices. His family and close friends knew of no such plans.
Scott Hahn, catholic scholar was very good friends and he knew he was being baptised right before his death and scott hahn says it publicly. Cant blame Rich , bc he was studying the early church fathers and if u study them well, one might become a catholic. 😄
Probably because the priest of the Church he attended received a phone call from Rich right before his death after he had attended daily mass for a while at that parish and was taking RCIA that he wanted to officially receive first communion and other introductory sacraments that year. Its not a rumor nor something for anyone to argue about. It just a fact.
Your comments are wrong on many levels. First of all, Rich chose to attend daily Mass at St. Michael's Mission on the reservation because he wanted to, not because "there were no other choices." On several occasions in 1997 he also drove six hours each way to attend Sunday evening Mass at St. Timothy's Catholic Church in Mesa, Arizona. Many of Rich's close friends were very aware of his plans to convert to Catholicism because he discussed it with them frequently. He even told the Kruse family, with whom he stayed the last three weeks of his life, that he planned to convert. They were Protestant and not particularly happy to hear this, but they have verified it nonetheless.
I respect he wanted to become Catholic but the Disciples and early Church Fathers were preaching based on Judaism + Good News = citing Yeshua's teachings and Prophets. The Catholic Church did not formally organize until the 4th Century and immediately Messianic Christians were martyred. God knew what he was doing, things are coming full circle. Many Catholic Ceremonies mirror things done much earlier.
Mitch is not a drummer.....
He is a percussionist, along with his guitar, banjo, and harmonica skills; he also writes all his own songs...
My president is Jesus Christ
Fron
Tasmanian Devil
Rich was going to convert to the Catholic Church the week following his death.
Not just the week following his death, but two days later! Rich was scheduled to make a general confession of his life to (now) Archbishop Paul Coakley on Sat. Sept, 20, 1997 and to receive the Sacraments of Confirmation and First Holy Communion at the Newman Center at Wichita State University on Sun. Sept. 21, 1997. Of course, when God took him, Rich was already a Catholic in his heart!
Rich belonged to Christ. Period. Rich was smart to play cool how a religious order appeared to respect Christ while he was drawn to teach on a reservation where his audience was vulnerable, open, and hungry - just like Rich. Perhaps, the providence of God knew the political knife of religion would pierce Rich's faith unaware when Catholic criminal murders of child sacrifices, horror of pedofiles, and more atrocities upon Indian children on reservations for centuries within these religious halls underground was exposed in Ireland during 2009. Rich's sensitive critical thinking skills - after surrendering into Christ's Grace - was a waiting target to take him down, but Abba intervened.
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I don't believe in catholicism.I believe in Jesus,the son of the living God who was crucified,laid in a tomb and resurrected the third day.If someone brings you another gospel than was preached to you don't let them into your house.Do not be partakers of their sins.
Denise Thorbjornsen 🤠👍👌🌷👩💼😇.
Denise Thorbjornsen - proverbs 1:10 .
Um that's what Catholics actually believe. That is so entirely what we believe in the most public way that we publicly at mass say the creed "I believe" "I believe in one God,
the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.
I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the Only Begotten Son of God,
born of the Father before all ages.
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;
through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,
and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary,
and became man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate,
he suffered death and was buried,
and rose again on the third day
in accordance with the Scriptures.
He ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory
to judge the living and the dead
and his kingdom will have no end.
I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son,
who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified,
who has spoken through the prophets.
I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.
I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins
and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead
and the life of the world to come. Amen.[1]" So yeah no "different gospel" being preached just the same gospel that was preached before other gospels existed.
Denise Thorbjornsen, apparently you DO believe in Catholicism, you just don't realize it!
The beliefs that you articulated are in fact, very Catholic!
turtle