A few years ago I designed and built my own electric skateboard. Now, at age 74, I decided that riding 30mph on the road is not the safest way to have fun, but efoiling looks like a great and much safer way to enjoy myself. Of course, I won't be trying to reinvent the wheel, but will likely get a Lift board next season. Thanks for your design work and implementation into a high-quality product.
I have been foiling 5 times, and now its genuinly all I want to do, theres just no feeling like it, their medium sized boards are perfect, its an undescribable feeling
Alot of the price is in the battery.... which will eventually have an issue. LIFT wont even publish a comprehensive Battery Fault Code Guide for the customer. I want to see and know for myself why i have several $3000 paperweights.
Powered surfboards.. that's amazing. I'm still trying to get a small EV, either a skateboard (SummerBoard) or Scooter, but these are insane. Even manual hydrofoil blow my mind
Reminds me of the day when the plasma tv took off at 10 thousand dollars and now you can get a tv at $500 $600 dollars for a decent one unless you have so much money you just don’t care and get what ever you need. I’m not hating if you make it it’s yours to spend straight up. I’m sure this lift4 Is targeting them people at almost $12 thousand dollars I’m sure a ton of people have one in the garage. Looks fun really fun maybe I’ll wait around for a used one when the next toy comes out and this is no longer needed it’s amazing what people toss out .
Dude I looked at them, filled out the specs I wanted. 14 grand. You can buy 6 super73’s or a foil that you will use probably at most once every two months. Realistically some ppl getting to the beach with a foil 2x per year. Who would spend that much on an e foil.
If you're learning (falling a lot) an HOUR is more than enough to exhaust MOST riders. Even when staying up most of the time this is much more exercise than most realize. not easy to use the balance muscles/brain for more than an hour straight. JMO!
This looks awesome. I would rip around laguna on the full size board. 2+ hrs ride time sounds like a good chunk if you’re staying in the same area, but if you want to go point A to point B I wonder what range anxiety would be like on the open water…
@@Detron3000 It is! Depending on the cable you have in the control box (8 Pin ODU versus 5 Pin Fischer) if you have a 5 Pin you're good to go, otherwise you simply need the 5 to 8 pin Adapter cable.
I purchased a Lift3 last March and love it! Thinking of maybe ordering a Lift4 for my girlfriend this summer. Had a question about the new battery (light version) Would you say the new Lift4 Light Battery has the same capacity/range as the Lift3 Long Range battery? I am happy with the ride time of my current full range battery and wondering if the new gen4 light battery would be equivalent to it. Also, does the lift4 have a more powerful motor than the lift3? I read the lift4 can carry two people so curious if it's more powerful. If so, how much more poweful?
The larger battery is the same on the 3 as 4. An hour is real world range for most folks with some getting less than that. How heavy you are. How fast you are going. How much you crash all affect range a great deal. The guys selling them are expert riders spending all their time on foil where the drag is GONE and they crash (and restart from 0) much less. You won't get an hour with the light battery probably. I would suggest anyone going with 1 battery get the larger. I may get a lite as a 2nd battery. FWIW
Great show Lift team. Updates look beautiful as expected. 3:18 it was said that the remote firmware was updated to include things like "Automatic Power Disconnect.". Does this mean that the safety risk of an always-hot acceleration trigger has been addressed? Is there a safety lock after a period of inactivity (or other method) to mitigate Accidental/ unintentional trigger press? If so, is this firmware backward compatible with previous controllers?
it has angle detection (?) that senses when an accident is happening and cuts the power to the motor before you actually go in. Apparently, though I thought it had that before..
@@mikeb1039 I've heard about that too. I'm anticipating a disconnect that requires confirmation from the rider before the trigger can be pressed again. Last I tried Lift, the remote rearms itself with no input from the rider.
@@eFoilLakePowell it's very quickly just automatic to hit the power/kill button on the remote when you go in the water. My hand holding the remote and the kill button is the first thing that comes out of the water. I guess that would be a nice safety, but I wouldn't trust it and would still manually kill it.
@@mikeb1039 I'm aware of this procedure as well. I've been told it's mentioned in the instructions manual too. Safety procedures don't excuse the lack of this common safety feature or vice versa. Safety procedures can be forgotten (especially by beginners) safety features could potentially not kick in as you suggested. Both are good to have. The owner of the Lift I tried, accidentally pressed the trigger after a fall or while swimming, more than once during our ride together. The other argument I've heard is that riders need to be able to have an active accelerator for powering away from a wave after a surfing sesh. An auto lock would get in the way. Simple, make the safety auto lock default out of the box, but allow it to be disabled via an app or from the settings. Experienced riders can then take on liability of an active trigger by choice. I've seen another brand do exactly this as I've described.
@@eFoilLakePowell Ok for you then, I couldn't really care. Beside, engrained (do you have a self preservation instinct?) safety procedures do NoT go away when you use them every time you fall in the water (a LOT at first). What do fail is MECHANICAL and ELECTRICAL methods of safety backups.
@@mikeb1039 I was eyeballing one for about a year and a half before I tried it. I wanted to be in a position where I can absorb the cost if I liked it (which I was pretty sure I would). Nothing would drive me more nuts than knowing I want one, but not being able to afford it.
Cutting edge is seldom cheap. When you sit and look and think about everything, there is a LOT more there than an E bike or road board. And you can spend 10k on an ebike. I've never seen a current rider/owner complaining about how expensive it was. It proves its worth every time you ride it.
What is the minimum speed for efoiling on a 270 Camber Pro versus a 250 Surf V2 front wing with a 33 Carve back wing/stabilizer for a rider with a weight of 100 kg/220 lb?
Cannot speak for the these wings. But I have the 200 V2 on my Lift3. I weigh 230lbs and can stay on foil till about 8mph before it drops the board to the water. Hope that helps somewhat. I am thinking of ordering the new Lift4 with 210 Camber Pro 🙂
Nobody has that specific of information about these. I'm 235lbs and my 5'4" board came with the 200 surf wing and we got the 250 high aspect and 300 surf after that. My daughters bf is 225lbs and we both love the 300 for slow riding, can be below 5mph-ish (no speedo) no problem. The HA is interesting but hard to turn without crashing. We're working up to that one. ;) GOING SLOWER MAKES THIS MUCH EASIER TO LEARN. JMO
@@JMGENTERPRISES Thanks. Similar for me, with the 250 Surf V2 and the 33 Carve stabilizer the minimal speed required for foiling is around 9 mph for me (I now tested it although not with the 270 Camber Pro as front wing). We have places here where you are allowed to foil, however, the speed limit is 9.32 mph or 15 km/h. So it is pretty much just on the edge for foiling.
I'm hoping that after You Guys sell a few thousand units to the Super Yacht Crowd You might be able to sell at a more affordable price point for Us regular Folk. 'Cause I would love to have one
They don't release that info unfortunately. Not sure why as in Ebikes the battery capacity is a prime consideration. i suppose for competitive reasons, but if I had the MOST capacity I sure as heck would ADVERTISE THAT!!!!! You don't measure battery capacity in watts. Watts are what the motor uses, a 350w motor will be more powerful than a 250w motor. Batteries are AH (amp hours) or similar.
@@mikeb1039 yes, had the measurement incorrect, good catch. That is very odd they would not release that info, I would assume it would have to be stamped on the battery. Also, guessing maybe the smaller capacity would be a battery that could be transported via airplane to allow owners to travel with their boards, and the airline limit is usually 2-3 160w batteries. On the other hand if they are using the "latest" bms and the newest 21700, possibly 18650 with a 50 min charge time to full guessing that puts the battery around my original guess of 300w'ish battery.
Its costs over 18,000 Canadian dollars. It's an amazing piece of tech. If possible now that your business is huge now can you please focus on making an affordable option for average consumer. The cheapest model you have is $12,300. Can you make something for 8k? If its not possible I'll understand.
@@JMGENTERPRISESThey dont even have that price in America. I said Canadian dollars. It's 9k USD so thats $12,315.00 CAD. No clue what you're talking about?
Faster than you will want to go. By a whole bunch at first. Still enough later. It's like a go cart, close to the ground makes speed sensations much stronger. Heck, 20mph is FLYING........ (up to 30mph)
Foiling is about weight shift to fly or come down. This actually came from the big racing sailboats that fly on large foils. Not sure how you'd manage the balancing that is constant. If you lose focus for an instant you are usually down. I can barely turn my head without crashing. LOL
love this new model, but my question is, will we ever collaborate with Sharrow Marine to make a Toroidal propeller for the gen 5? I think that would be an amazing boost to the already amazing product you have :D
I would like to see a realistic view of how the foil is moving, but the shots are very short and in slow motion. Is there any video that shows some real life footage? Maybe a review?
Im astounded as to why efoils are aanywhere north of 10k..i can buy a kawasaki standup jet ski or any modern jetski for the same price.. with wayyy more performance and no battery limitations. 10k+.. this stuff should be no more than 3k to be honest.
Forgot to fix the price, its not more complex than an eletric scooter, so why does it cost so much?? Its greedy, people want to experience this and cant.
I'll sell you my wave runner and surfboard for 12k. Never used much anymore. EVERY owner I've ever spoken to expresses that they should just sell the wave runner as nobody uses them after getting an efoil. (seriously, mine could disappear tomorrow and i wouldn't care)
I would like to help you reach your goal of getting as many people possible to experience the magical feeling of flying over the water. Who should I email my address to so you can send me one?
Dont buy their efoils until they change and become more transparent. They wont share something as basic as battery fault codes. LIFT publish troubleshooting codes otherwise my advise to everyone else is dont buy even with great Lift warranty service you are up the creek as soon as the warranty expires which you means YOU WILL HAVE $3000 paperweights. I have several would like to at least know whats the issue but Lift is too secret with something so basic for their once super loyal customers. Lift heres to you hopefully listening and finally posting comprehensive LED fault guide.
Hi @SurferBobbyLew, We completely understand your frustration with this situation. Our lack of a published user guide for the battery isn't due to secrecy, but rather limited resources, and that is on us. As a small team, we're doing our best to manage with what we have, but that's no excuse for leaving riders like yourself in the dark. We recognize the need for improvement and are bringing on new resources, like myself to help catch up on backlogs like this. In fact, we're currently developing a guide for our Gen4 batteries. Since you've brought this issue to our attention, we'd love to connect with you directly. Could you please send an email to our media account at media@liftfoils.com? It will go to our PR agency, Verde, but they'll forward it to me, and we can arrange a call. The discussion would include me (the new marketing manager) and our lead engineer. We're committed to doing better and appreciate your support, even when we've let you down.
That's what many of us owners said on first sight. Then after researching the tech involved and most importantly, taking a test ride, we changed our minds. Being an early adopter isnt' for the cheap for sure. But at 64 I didn't have 10 years to wait for the chinese copies to be worth a shat. 3 years in I consider it worth every penny and already well paid for.
@@JMGENTERPRISES someone said to buy a different brand. So lift I belive deleted that comment. I was saying I was concerned about warranty on those cheaper brands
@@svenop gotcha. I thought you were saying warranty issues with Lift. I bought a Lift3 a year ago. Still under warranty for another year and wanted to be sure I could rest easy. Lol
You need electical connections from the battery to the motor to supply electricity. Not to hard to figure that. The 2 cooling lines are for a passive cooling system, no pressurized lines or pump, just water flow from the board moving. Not sure how you improve that..... Maybe think this through a little better...
your ad is so slow paced its worse than watching a documentary. i felt like you guys described the battery for 4 hours its disgusting. the product looks cool on its own stop trying to ruin with with boring trash ads that make people want to drown from boredom
Jeez, this could be the worst surf industry product ever... it's only a matter of time till you smash into a manatee or sea turtle hopefully at least destroying your garbage ride and giving you a severe concussion teaching you that hydrofoils are dangerous to Wildlife and look super fruity even when cool people try to ride them, that thing's the "Segway Of The Sea"🤔😆 "E-FOIL" 🤔😂MORE LIKE E- FAIL 😆👈
🤔 The battery life is very relevant to the water conditions the board is working through the temperature & the weight of the rider… if these boards even support riders up to weights of 110kg …. 🤷♂️🏂
I'm 235 and the 5'4" does, but not easily without motive power. The board is under water mostly and it can be difficult to stay on it in a stationary, non powered situation. Mostly jump on and hit the throttle. Speed (even just a little) solves most/all stability situations and once you are moving it's as solid as it needs to be. How good a rider you are is the prime variable. Good riders STAY UP and on the foil where 80-90% of the normal drag is gone. Learners fall a LOT. Taking off from a stop and getting up to plane takes a LOT more energy out of the system. Even the intermediate step of staying up but surfing the board on the water instead of flying takes a lot more juice. If you aren't flying most of the time you will struggle to get an hour out of the battery. (lift 3 here) VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND. But you will also be tired at or before that hour is up. We seldom have anyone go an hour straight on ours, even when they can.
A few years ago I designed and built my own electric skateboard. Now, at age 74, I decided that riding 30mph on the road is not the safest way to have fun, but efoiling looks like a great and much safer way to enjoy myself. Of course, I won't be trying to reinvent the wheel, but will likely get a Lift board next season. Thanks for your design work and implementation into a high-quality product.
The falling is much less painful. Usually. 64 here.
@@mikeb1039 You guys inspire me
Get a flite board
I have been foiling 5 times, and now its genuinly all I want to do, theres just no feeling like it, their medium sized boards are perfect, its an undescribable feeling
Me after seeing the video : wow I want one
Me after seeing the price : I’m good
Alot of the price is in the battery.... which will eventually have an issue. LIFT wont even publish a comprehensive Battery Fault Code Guide for the customer. I want to see and know for myself why i have several $3000 paperweights.
I tried it today and it's so much fun. Took me a bit but I finally was able to stand for a good Bit till i got tired lol.
Great to see all the updates and improvements, especially the new light battery!
thanks!
Powered surfboards.. that's amazing. I'm still trying to get a small EV, either a skateboard (SummerBoard) or Scooter, but these are insane. Even manual hydrofoil blow my mind
Seriously, friend.
Look up the Onewheel.
Most fun EV for cruising on street, offroad, sand, snow
I got the one wheel - then I got a titanium wrist plate with 10 screws & 1 month off work.....be careful! @@Skydive117
Reminds me of the day when the plasma tv took off at 10 thousand dollars and now you can get a tv at $500 $600 dollars for a decent one unless you have so much money you just don’t care and get what ever you need.
I’m not hating if you make it it’s yours to spend straight up.
I’m sure this lift4 Is targeting them people at almost $12 thousand dollars I’m sure a ton of people have one in the garage.
Looks fun really fun maybe I’ll wait around for a used one when the next toy comes out and this is no longer needed it’s amazing what people toss out .
Dude I looked at them, filled out the specs I wanted. 14 grand. You can buy 6 super73’s or a foil that you will use probably at most once every two months. Realistically some ppl getting to the beach with a foil 2x per year. Who would spend that much on an e foil.
Lots of people
you underestimate how many people there are where "how much money" isn't even something they ever consider lol
NOBODY that uses it 2x a year. ;) (that's about .0001%)
That’s why we rent them out in Mallorca 😏 come and see us some day.
some people swim down a river everyday after work to head home. Im sure theyres plenty of people that use efoils to travel between places
2 hours on any e-board is enough for me! Want.
If you're learning (falling a lot) an HOUR is more than enough to exhaust MOST riders. Even when staying up most of the time this is much more exercise than most realize. not easy to use the balance muscles/brain for more than an hour straight. JMO!
This looks awesome. I would rip around laguna on the full size board. 2+ hrs ride time sounds like a good chunk if you’re staying in the same area, but if you want to go point A to point B I wonder what range anxiety would be like on the open water…
Very good way to get yourself in very big trouble. Any malfunction and you are in a world of trouble.
you shouldn't ride alone in situations like that. And keep a tow strap on board.
It's a very nice toy. Sometimes the battery goes down faster than normal. This is not a survival boat. Dont' try to make it into something its not.
Keep up the good work, guys!
So make toroidal propeller so make it even more silent and efficient?
Hi! Interesting! Like! Health and Good Luck!
Does lift 3f have the same new battery as lift 4. Also the website shop still shows the old battery for lift 4 purchase
That’s what I was wondering too
I don't believe so
It does, Gen 4 batts can go up to 2.5 hrs
Love Lift Foils!
Looks awesome! Very exciting. Is the new Lift4 battery backwards compatible? Could be a very nice upgrade for the Lift3 I already have
Hope so would love longer range
Yes it is!
@@Detron3000 It is! Depending on the cable you have in the control box (8 Pin ODU versus 5 Pin Fischer) if you have a 5 Pin you're good to go, otherwise you simply need the 5 to 8 pin Adapter cable.
yes!
They are super cool look'n. The grip is much more comfortable to carry too. Been dying to talk about these since I saw them at the factory in January.
I purchased a Lift3 last March and love it! Thinking of maybe ordering a Lift4 for my girlfriend this summer.
Had a question about the new battery (light version)
Would you say the new Lift4 Light Battery has the same capacity/range as the Lift3 Long Range battery?
I am happy with the ride time of my current full range battery and wondering if the new gen4 light battery would be equivalent to it.
Also, does the lift4 have a more powerful motor than the lift3? I read the lift4 can carry two people so curious if it's more powerful. If so, how much more poweful?
On the battery - a little less than former Lift3 full range
The larger battery is the same on the 3 as 4. An hour is real world range for most folks with some getting less than that. How heavy you are. How fast you are going. How much you crash all affect range a great deal.
The guys selling them are expert riders spending all their time on foil where the drag is GONE and they crash (and restart from 0) much less. You won't get an hour with the light battery probably. I would suggest anyone going with 1 battery get the larger. I may get a lite as a 2nd battery. FWIW
Great show Lift team. Updates look beautiful as expected.
3:18 it was said that the remote firmware was updated to include things like "Automatic Power Disconnect.". Does this mean that the safety risk of an always-hot acceleration trigger has been addressed? Is there a safety lock after a period of inactivity (or other method) to mitigate Accidental/ unintentional trigger press?
If so, is this firmware backward compatible with previous controllers?
it has angle detection (?) that senses when an accident is happening and cuts the power to the motor before you actually go in. Apparently, though I thought it had that before..
@@mikeb1039 I've heard about that too. I'm anticipating a disconnect that requires confirmation from the rider before the trigger can be pressed again. Last I tried Lift, the remote rearms itself with no input from the rider.
@@eFoilLakePowell it's very quickly just automatic to hit the power/kill button on the remote when you go in the water. My hand holding the remote and the kill button is the first thing that comes out of the water.
I guess that would be a nice safety, but I wouldn't trust it and would still manually kill it.
@@mikeb1039 I'm aware of this procedure as well. I've been told it's mentioned in the instructions manual too.
Safety procedures don't excuse the lack of this common safety feature or vice versa. Safety procedures can be forgotten (especially by beginners) safety features could potentially not kick in as you suggested. Both are good to have. The owner of the Lift I tried, accidentally pressed the trigger after a fall or while swimming, more than once during our ride together.
The other argument I've heard is that riders need to be able to have an active accelerator for powering away from a wave after a surfing sesh. An auto lock would get in the way.
Simple, make the safety auto lock default out of the box, but allow it to be disabled via an app or from the settings. Experienced riders can then take on liability of an active trigger by choice. I've seen another brand do exactly this as I've described.
@@eFoilLakePowell Ok for you then, I couldn't really care. Beside, engrained (do you have a self preservation instinct?) safety procedures do NoT go away when you use them every time you fall in the water (a LOT at first).
What do fail is MECHANICAL and ELECTRICAL methods of safety backups.
My first eFoil demo will be next month. I’m an avid snowboarder, but need something to scratch that itch during the summer months.
You're going to love having one! ;)
@@mikeb1039 Wouldn't you know it. I have one now! And yes, I do love it.
@@texan_2ocho965 LOL, it's amazing how that happens. Everyone that tries it, if they can afford it, buys one.
@@mikeb1039 I was eyeballing one for about a year and a half before I tried it. I wanted to be in a position where I can absorb the cost if I liked it (which I was pretty sure I would). Nothing would drive me more nuts than knowing I want one, but not being able to afford it.
I would love to have one but the price wow!!
Cutting edge is seldom cheap. When you sit and look and think about everything, there is a LOT more there than an E bike or road board. And you can spend 10k on an ebike.
I've never seen a current rider/owner complaining about how expensive it was. It proves its worth every time you ride it.
🔥🔥🔥
Need audio of how loud (how much quieter) new propellers are.
It's noise from the new battery power management system, not really the propeller, and it's half as quiet. Noticeably quieter
Hello, any information about the noise level ?
very quiet
Great work team!
What is the minimum speed for efoiling on a 270 Camber Pro versus a 250 Surf V2 front wing with a 33 Carve back wing/stabilizer for a rider with a weight of 100 kg/220 lb?
Cannot speak for the these wings. But I have the 200 V2 on my Lift3. I weigh 230lbs and can stay on foil till about 8mph before it drops the board to the water. Hope that helps somewhat. I am thinking of ordering the new Lift4 with 210 Camber Pro 🙂
Nobody has that specific of information about these. I'm 235lbs and my 5'4" board came with the 200 surf wing and we got the 250 high aspect and 300 surf after that. My daughters bf is 225lbs and we both love the 300 for slow riding, can be below 5mph-ish (no speedo) no problem. The HA is interesting but hard to turn without crashing. We're working up to that one. ;)
GOING SLOWER MAKES THIS MUCH EASIER TO LEARN. JMO
@@mikeb1039 Are you saying that you are able to foil at 5 mph with the 300 Surf wing?
@@JMGENTERPRISES Thanks. Similar for me, with the 250 Surf V2 and the 33 Carve stabilizer the minimal speed required for foiling is around 9 mph for me (I now tested it although not with the 270 Camber Pro as front wing). We have places here where you are allowed to foil, however, the speed limit is 9.32 mph or 15 km/h. So it is pretty much just on the edge for foiling.
@@hansmaier479 i dont' have a speedo, but yeh, fast walking speed before it sinks.
Spliff't E-foils, keeping you high for longer!!
I'm hoping that after You Guys sell a few thousand units to the Super Yacht Crowd You might be able to sell at a more affordable price point for Us regular Folk. 'Cause I would love to have one
Guys have you thought about Toroidal Propellers? they are more efficient and silent and reduce energy consumption
They already made one
4k take my money. 8-13k? insane. That’s car money for an electric motor, board and foil.
yes, for you it's insane. Not for everyone. Anyone that thinks they can get something comparable for 4k is in for an interesting eye opener.
Are you guys looking into toroidal prop designs to further increase efficiency and reduce noise?
At $5000 of pop, probably not.
Great work guys
Awesome!
Why does the cable matter to some, is it hard to hook up? Ive heard water cool is a good system, are they just making assumptions on the engineering
what is the capacity of the 2 battery sizes? guessing 250-350'ish watt?
They don't release that info unfortunately. Not sure why as in Ebikes the battery capacity is a prime consideration. i suppose for competitive reasons, but if I had the MOST capacity I sure as heck would ADVERTISE THAT!!!!!
You don't measure battery capacity in watts. Watts are what the motor uses, a 350w motor will be more powerful than a 250w motor.
Batteries are AH (amp hours) or similar.
@@mikeb1039 yes, had the measurement incorrect, good catch. That is very odd they would not release that info, I would assume it would have to be stamped on the battery. Also, guessing maybe the smaller capacity would be a battery that could be transported via airplane to allow owners to travel with their boards, and the airline limit is usually 2-3 160w batteries. On the other hand if they are using the "latest" bms and the newest 21700, possibly 18650 with a 50 min charge time to full guessing that puts the battery around my original guess of 300w'ish battery.
@@thewrx2600 yeh,except for that watts part ;)
and no the capacity is not listed on the battery. at least not on 2021 3's.
Are the wing sizes just for rider weights? Or different speeds/heights?
rider weight and maneuverability for the core wings, then different experiences like efficiency for more serious riders
Its costs over 18,000 Canadian dollars. It's an amazing piece of tech. If possible now that your business is huge now can you please focus on making an affordable option for average consumer. The cheapest model you have is $12,300. Can you make something for 8k? If its not possible I'll understand.
yea sure, we'll do it just for you!
@@Unfluencer He asked for "average consumer". Not just for him. Do you read well?
@Perry Knew Em Thank you
They do have one for $8k. The Lift3F
@@JMGENTERPRISESThey dont even have that price in America. I said Canadian dollars. It's 9k USD so thats $12,315.00 CAD. No clue what you're talking about?
Is the new lift4 motor more powerful than the lift3? If so, by how much?
If it was, it would the headline of their ads. ;)
And all of us current owners would have been notified months ago. ;)
Can you use the new battery on previous models?
yes
How about some true speed videos. All of this slow motion video takes away some of the excitement of your product.
Faster than you will want to go. By a whole bunch at first. Still enough later. It's like a go cart, close to the ground makes speed sensations much stronger. Heck, 20mph is FLYING........ (up to 30mph)
I wonder if the same tech could be used on a sit on top kayak?
Foiling is about weight shift to fly or come down. This actually came from the big racing sailboats that fly on large foils. Not sure how you'd manage the balancing that is constant. If you lose focus for an instant you are usually down. I can barely turn my head without crashing. LOL
Hopefully these or the previous models are more affordable
Our new LIFT3 F we announced earlier this year starts at $8995 and is our most affordable model
I DONt get why you don’t have better videos. WHY no folding prop videos? Super quick clips
Not my 12,000 dollars ..il stick to my surffoil LOYAL TO THE FOIL
How much are they!
Look real nice!
alabama by the time....
love this new model, but my question is, will we ever collaborate with Sharrow Marine to make a Toroidal propeller for the gen 5? I think that would be an amazing boost to the already amazing product you have :D
I would like to see a realistic view of how the foil is moving, but the shots are very short and in slow motion. Is there any video that shows some real life footage? Maybe a review?
we have dozens of videos of these on our channel and on our instagram
Hoppe Shore
the price is right audience seating is gone be...
Still so far behind Fliteboard!
ever heard of brushless motors? Ask someone at flite if they're on a gear system or brushless motor. Flite copied Lift, the inventors of the efoil.
Wow when can we purchase one?
they are available now
It looks cool, I like the idea... but I could buy a jetski or two for the price...
gated and pyrotechnic if the port o potty to sailing don't get flushed
Im astounded as to why efoils are aanywhere north of 10k..i can buy a kawasaki standup jet ski or any modern jetski for the same price.. with wayyy more performance and no battery limitations. 10k+.. this stuff should be no more than 3k to be honest.
Is it inclusive for +Sizers?
Loooooooooool
Forgot to fix the price, its not more complex than an eletric scooter, so why does it cost so much??
Its greedy, people want to experience this and cant.
12k! I'd rather buy a wave runner and surfboard
I'll sell you my wave runner and surfboard for 12k. Never used much anymore.
EVERY owner I've ever spoken to expresses that they should just sell the wave runner as nobody uses them after getting an efoil. (seriously, mine could disappear tomorrow and i wouldn't care)
kook
I would like to help you reach your goal of getting as many people possible to experience the magical feeling of flying over the water. Who should I email my address to so you can send me one?
Has anyone ridden one from Long beach to Catalina Island...?
4 guys have, but they've never been seen again so not much to tell. (joking)
For a wine mixer?
Dont buy their efoils until they change and become more transparent. They wont share something as basic as battery fault codes. LIFT publish troubleshooting codes otherwise my advise to everyone else is dont buy even with great Lift warranty service you are up the creek as soon as the warranty expires which you means YOU WILL HAVE $3000 paperweights. I have several would like to at least know whats the issue but Lift is too secret with something so basic for their once super loyal customers. Lift heres to you hopefully listening and finally posting comprehensive LED fault guide.
Hi @SurferBobbyLew,
We completely understand your frustration with this situation. Our lack of a published user guide for the battery isn't due to secrecy, but rather limited resources, and that is on us.
As a small team, we're doing our best to manage with what we have, but that's no excuse for leaving riders like yourself in the dark.
We recognize the need for improvement and are bringing on new resources, like myself to help catch up on backlogs like this. In fact, we're currently developing a guide for our Gen4 batteries.
Since you've brought this issue to our attention, we'd love to connect with you directly. Could you please send an email to our media account at media@liftfoils.com? It will go to our PR agency, Verde, but they'll forward it to me, and we can arrange a call. The discussion would include me (the new marketing manager) and our lead engineer.
We're committed to doing better and appreciate your support, even when we've let you down.
And what do you do if you break down in the see??? No vhf no nothing.
Donald Dale
Now can you fit something to repel sharks and orcas 🤔
If this thing cost 2000eur i would buy it now
Yes and if a Mercedes were 10,000eur I would buy it now too.
$12000. Yeah nah.
That's what many of us owners said on first sight. Then after researching the tech involved and most importantly, taking a test ride, we changed our minds. Being an early adopter isnt' for the cheap for sure. But at 64 I didn't have 10 years to wait for the chinese copies to be worth a shat.
3 years in I consider it worth every penny and already well paid for.
Stop spending money on models and improve the design to remove all the cables and cooling lines
@@svenop haven't heard a bunch about warranty problems. You have?
@@JMGENTERPRISES someone said to buy a different brand. So lift I belive deleted that comment. I was saying I was concerned about warranty on those cheaper brands
@@svenop gotcha. I thought you were saying warranty issues with Lift. I bought a Lift3 a year ago. Still under warranty for another year and wanted to be sure I could rest easy. Lol
You need electical connections from the battery to the motor to supply electricity. Not to hard to figure that.
The 2 cooling lines are for a passive cooling system, no pressurized lines or pump, just water flow from the board moving. Not sure how you improve that.....
Maybe think this through a little better...
@@mikeb1039 easy to see what other manufacturers are doing with just 2 electrical connections and no water cooling pipes
Get rid of the damn sound effects so we can hear the narrator without distraction.
your ad is so slow paced its worse than watching a documentary. i felt like you guys described the battery for 4 hours its disgusting. the product looks cool on its own stop trying to ruin with with boring trash ads that make people want to drown from boredom
Jeez, this could be the worst surf industry product ever... it's only a matter of time till you smash into a manatee or sea turtle hopefully at least destroying your garbage ride and giving you a severe concussion teaching you that hydrofoils are dangerous to Wildlife and look super fruity even when cool people try to ride them, that thing's the "Segway Of The Sea"🤔😆
"E-FOIL" 🤔😂MORE LIKE
E- FAIL 😆👈
If you guys truly wanted to reach your G.O.A.L you'd figure a way to make this sh@t AFFORDABLE for the Common People!!!
@svenope just
🤔 The battery life is very relevant to the water conditions the board is working through the temperature & the weight of the rider… if these boards even support riders up to weights of 110kg …. 🤷♂️🏂
I'm 235 and the 5'4" does, but not easily without motive power. The board is under water mostly and it can be difficult to stay on it in a stationary, non powered situation. Mostly jump on and hit the throttle. Speed (even just a little) solves most/all stability situations and once you are moving it's as solid as it needs to be. How good a rider you are is the prime variable. Good riders STAY UP and on the foil where 80-90% of the normal drag is gone. Learners fall a LOT. Taking off from a stop and getting up to plane takes a LOT more energy out of the system. Even the intermediate step of staying up but surfing the board on the water instead of flying takes a lot more juice.
If you aren't flying most of the time you will struggle to get an hour out of the battery. (lift 3 here)
VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND. But you will also be tired at or before that hour is up.
We seldom have anyone go an hour straight on ours, even when they can.