From the drone world (not sure how applicable to water), flat edged bullnose propellers are used with ducts to minimize the gap between the duct and propeller to improve efficiency. But when used without a duct, they have much worse efficiency than a standard propeller - but more thrust because of the larger area. You should collab with rctestflight! He's been testing 3d printed propeller designs for his autonomous boat.
If he's gonna use a naked prop then 100% should be chasing down toroid designs to remove cavitation and turbulence, which increases efficiency. It is very much worth it to try at least one toroid design before switching over to jets 😀
I love your palpable excitement at seeing your first self-designed part come to life on the printer! A 3D printer is honestly one of the best investments you can make for prototyping and experimenting like this. Fantastic video! You definitely inspire me to get a cheap e-foil and start tinkering myself.
As several people have pointed out, @RCTestFlight is awsome on custom props and seems like a real chill guy, would love to see you doing a colab! Stay cool Edwin!
A thing you might try to help with drag or stability on your hydrofoil, adding 'vortex generators' might help. These are small ridges or bumps that create tiny swirls in the water, keeping the flow attached to the foil longer and reducing drag. This can lead to a smoother and more stable ride. It’s a technique used in aviation and racing that could potentially enhance your hydrofoil's performance. Might help.
Just a few printing tips. You shouldn't need any support for a cone, each layer should print on the last which makes its own support. I would also suggest you use ABS for strength and UV stability. PLA will break down in sunlight and is more brittle than ABS.
I was surprised how well that prop worked considering it's squared off to work with the shroud. If you haven't seen his channel already, @rctestflight has done a lot of research on 3D printed props.
Great start! Take it from someone whose done hydrodynamics and prop work for numerous marine manufacturers and world champion race boats. Perfect your foil and all the running gear in front of the prop first. Save the prop optimization until last. Also, only change one element at a time. Otherwise, you'll be chasing your tail. Just found your channel and subscribed...looking fwd to seeing your progress. Keep going on this one until your optimization is complete. You'll master both your project and your 3D printer. Plus, what you learn aid you on whatever project you choose next...
Wow, you switched out one part that you made with your 3D print and now you’re getting almost 15 miles at 23+ mph. Now it’s time to improve your wing. Do that and you might hit 18-20 miles efficiency at 27 to 30+ mph. You made your board so much better, congrats to you.
Great video! It’s nice to see your board is still working good and the fact you are improving it is awesome 👍 I definitely would like to see more updates on your progress on this board 😊
I guess it depends, but you've got the 3d printer already. Personally, I love to mix one hobby with another. As long as you're enjoying the mods, and the time you're spending tinkering with your board isn't taking away from the time you'd spending riding it, it can be really rewarding. I say ride it until you can't fix it anymore.
It's awesome watching ppl realize how much potential they have & the great thing is... this is only the beginning! I say keep going until you can't take it any further with this board. 🏄♂️
Hi Edwin...i have been a subscriber at Grind hard for a while n just now found ur channel....i can see where GH gets the awesome soundtracks and superior production value.....glad to be a follower... god bless ❤️🇺🇲
I'm here for the numbers. Your overall increase in performance (battery efficiency, speed, distance, and volume) is astounding. I would only continue to tinker if you absolutely need to. If not, I can't wait to see your next project. Congrats and thanks for sharing.
Reading other comments, it looks like the majority would like to see you continue to mod it as best you can and share that journey. I mean, like GHP it's the journey of the thing that is interesting. Personally, I'm the one guy that wants you to hop on the top of the line, completely sorted e foil and enjoy miles of smiles with it. I want to watch you push the envelope with a better design that already exists but I get it, it's probably boring content compared to the improvement process with what you have. Either way it's good stuff man. Fun video and I applaud all your effort to make el cheapo fly. Looking forward to the next update of your e foil journey. Cheers.
Oh man - this looks like a total blast. I’m afraid to start looking at boards cuz then I’ll spend a month scheming and ultimately end up having a fight with my wife who has spent too long putting up with my endless pursuit of cool toys. “I promise hon- this will be it for sure this time!” 😚
Should have modified it from beginning. Good to see the difference yes prop and wing would make big difference. Changing the pitch of the prop will effect speed and distance. Good luck.
Yessssss! Finally some 3D printing content! If you need any help let me know! Been in the hobby for 10 years, and currently have two X1Cs that are absolute units.
Brother it’s the same thing. People will order in bulk from alibaba for discount, wait for the shipping and then sell them at a profit when they land in the states.
I’m in the market for an E Foil and I just found your channel. Super cool setup you got with the 3D printer. I say take it to the next level and print your own prop!
1:37 a fuse???? that wouldnt prevent the sparking. they make anti spark connectors in all sizes. qs8 anti spark connector is what you want for that application. and BTW those use a RESISTOR to prevent the spark. the resistor prevents the capacitor(s) in whatever speed controller your using from instantly charging which is what creates the spark.
Your prop is not designed to run without a shroud, you could print another prop using the B series prop generator. I printed a prop for my 7.2kW(!) outboard and it held up very well! Just printed with pla+
Good stuff Bro !!! You should finish this one, there is more to improve for sure, showing how you fix the stability issues is worth the time. The 3D printer is really interesting as well.
edwin, the "shroud" from the prop is actually a nozzle and like others have mentioned you dont wanna delete the nozzle without changing the propeller geometry with it
Shrouds or ducts around ‘propellers’ are there not for propulsion but for a secondary purpose ( such as safety or directional flow) so are Always going to cause a loss of efficiency compared to an un-shrouded prop. As for stability, drag is proportional to stability
You could try hanging a weight under the middle of your printer/plant table, if you don't want to get a new table. ;) Thanks for the update! If it's worth it for YOU, it'd be cool to see what you can come up with to make the ultimate upgraded cheapest efoil. Maybe get (or rent) an off-the-shelf nice-one first to get another baseline for upgrade comparisons.
Keep Going! I need one of these to cruise my big ass around the rivers down here in Ridgefield WA. Happy to find and subscribe to your channel because this is much of the same stuff I am interested in. Liked GHP so happy to see ya doing your own thing here. keep it up.
Keep going with what you have. The improvements/enhancements that you make that work for you will show you what to look for if you decide on a new board as well as improving many skills. New subscriber here.
I design my own foils and I wingsurf. You should streamline your motor more, use socket head cap screws for smaller head diameter. Try to get a smooth flow off the motor to the hub and consider a cone behind the prop. The motor is pretty large diameter providing a lot of it's own drag. Surfaces under water are important, try wet sanding to 1000 grit, a water jet should slick on the surface with no beading. For silicon sealant, ensure you use neutral cure, regular one emits acetic acid on cure and can wreck electronics. The sealed from manufacture parts are probably polyester resin, it shrinks over time as it's solvent evaporates.
Magnets may not be the issue, it's could be the cord length. That cord type tends to stretch over time, if so it may drag on occasions, and might just need to shorten it a bit.
That was really interesting and exciting. I would love one of these boards and you have shown us you do not need to fork out thousands of dollars to have a go.
The original set up requires the flat prop blades because they're designed to work with the shroud, but that shroud needs improvement, perhaps carbon fiber and a more defined airfoil shape? Print a prop for it...
Yeah it works like a ducted fan (like a fan for a computer case for the computer guys) but that shroud was big, bulky and I'm guessing made of some cheap cast metal so it was a virtual lead weight and not very optimized (likely a copy of something cheap from 40 years ago)
Never watched your stuff before, saw the title and was impressed! Only released 6 days ago yet you’ve had it a full year, I like that style 👍🏻 Hope it’s a good video………?
Always been intrigued by this as a Onewheel rider. My only issue is E-foil is that its seasonal. Not gonna spend 5-7K on something that I can only ride for 3 months when eMTBs and Onewheels can be ridden almost year-round in CA.
Great video, thanks for experimenting and showing the world. It just goes to show cheap isn’t always nasty. You could shim that wobbly foil mast with some pieces soda can and resin. 👍
I think the holes below your new white chaulk is just screwholes for the bulky stock cone end and if the motor is sealed than that seal should be more inside. I would like to see you combine your new end cone and the stock one into one optimized part.
Thanks for the project, You did all the things i have wanted to do but i didnt have the time and money to do. Great i can rest easy that its already been done. Really fun video, well done. I can see E-foiling becoming popular like kayaking. PS. What do you think about putting a sliding chair on it. lower center of gravity and less squirrely maybe. Control would be joystick/handles on your sides and sliding chair back and forth and leaning. I am into distance not short jaunts. Thanks again.
Personally I would be more interested in seeing you upgrade this board because I feel like there would be more to learn that way even though I don't have a board. I fly fpv drones as a hobby. It was cool when I realized why I knew your face (grind hard). I always wondered who was doing their fpv footage (I'm guessing it was you). Your editing of this video was smooth. Well done and thx for the vid. Fun watch.
Yeah, use a better prop and a more progressive taper on the cone. The cone can be pretty thin and it can be taped on with vinyl tape carefully. I put vinyl tape over the screws on my F4 and it is so silent. Of course I'm using the sail for power. I reassemble my foil every time because I'm in saltwater
wow, cool, make the cheap one better, I hate cold water but love snowboarding, I actually might get a wet suite and buy an e-foil after watching this , snow board year round
I would very much like to see how you re-angle the foil to raise the board nose, and see how much better the performance is with a prop with proper tips for use without a duct.
I was watching a random 5k sub channel about 3D printing scarf seam tips for my P1S and guy was wearing a Grind Hard shirt. Made me think you guys must have some use for that occasionally in the shop.
Cool channel, new subscriber here... Pro tip on working with silicone: Use an ice cube to smooth over. Silicone obviously doesn't stick to melting ice, and water doesn't affect/mess-with silicone (wet or dry).
Soooo the rule is don't use silicone below the waterline. Fun fact, it doesn't stick when it is wet. Use poly urethane instead... made for wet conditions. Its what they use on boats to seal screw holes on boats.
I have the similar board combo and would love to see how far you can push the limits on this thing. I am thinking about doing something with the angle on the wing myself as its super strange to go any faster than 80% thotle with the nose pointing down as you mentioned in you video. Keep up the good work with your videos, really enjoying them 🤙🏻
My 3d printer shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=2353821&u=4375257&m=138211&urllink=&afftrack=
Hi Edwin, please check your email from Andy and pick your favorite dirt bike color. Thanks.
You should try to contact RCTestFlight, if you haven't already. This project is right up his alley, and I'm sure you two could do some cool stuff!
I agree it would be a very interesting video, what they could come up with
I agree, he's recently posted his prop efficiency tests
@@mikelarin8037 ya I just watched all 3 the other day
That would be awesome
Agreed
From the drone world (not sure how applicable to water), flat edged bullnose propellers are used with ducts to minimize the gap between the duct and propeller to improve efficiency. But when used without a duct, they have much worse efficiency than a standard propeller - but more thrust because of the larger area. You should collab with rctestflight! He's been testing 3d printed propeller designs for his autonomous boat.
If he's gonna use a naked prop then 100% should be chasing down toroid designs to remove cavitation and turbulence, which increases efficiency. It is very much worth it to try at least one toroid design before switching over to jets 😀
Each motor has its own ideal prop. Because of a watt/torque/volt/rpm curve
Great suggestion to collaborate with rctestflight!
I love your palpable excitement at seeing your first self-designed part come to life on the printer! A 3D printer is honestly one of the best investments you can make for prototyping and experimenting like this. Fantastic video! You definitely inspire me to get a cheap e-foil and start tinkering myself.
I agree
As several people have pointed out, @RCTestFlight is awsome on custom props and seems like a real chill guy, would love to see you doing a colab! Stay cool Edwin!
Definitely would like to see you keep improving this board
A thing you might try to help with drag or stability on your hydrofoil, adding 'vortex generators' might help. These are small ridges or bumps that create tiny swirls in the water, keeping the flow attached to the foil longer and reducing drag. This can lead to a smoother and more stable ride. It’s a technique used in aviation and racing that could potentially enhance your hydrofoil's performance. Might help.
I would definitely be interested is seeing you push the cheap board to the limit.
Yes please! 👌
Push this board to the next level.
@@bradleedee3549 yes Push this project pleeeeze!!
And me, please go for it!
Just a few printing tips. You shouldn't need any support for a cone, each layer should print on the last which makes its own support. I would also suggest you use ABS for strength and UV stability. PLA will break down in sunlight and is more brittle than ABS.
I was thinking the same thing about the support. PETG would also be good here.
I was surprised how well that prop worked considering it's squared off to work with the shroud. If you haven't seen his channel already, @rctestflight has done a lot of research on 3D printed props.
Great start! Take it from someone whose done hydrodynamics and prop work for numerous marine manufacturers and world champion race boats. Perfect your foil and all the running gear in front of the prop first. Save the prop optimization until last. Also, only change one element at a time. Otherwise, you'll be chasing your tail. Just found your channel and subscribed...looking fwd to seeing your progress. Keep going on this one until your optimization is complete. You'll master both your project and your 3D printer. Plus, what you learn aid you on whatever project you choose next...
So how much did it cost?
Nerves...Maybe 2 or 3
Right? The whole point was to see if the cheapest one out there worked. Now that we know it does, what’s the cost of entry??
4350 dollars from another video.
@@holmgren04 lol then its not the "cheapest by a landslide" he was scrolling past $3,000 ones.
Wow, you switched out one part that you made with your 3D print and now you’re getting almost 15 miles at 23+ mph. Now it’s time to improve your wing. Do that and you might hit 18-20 miles efficiency at 27 to 30+ mph. You made your board so much better, congrats to you.
Now sell your IP (& advice) to the maker!
Great video! It’s nice to see your board is still working good and the fact you are improving it is awesome 👍 I definitely would like to see more updates on your progress on this board 😊
Mike!!!!! love your channel brother 👍👍👍
@@mikemartin2423 Thanks Mike! I really appreciate it man 😊👍
Great Vid Edwin, yea continue to take this further ide be interested to see how much better you can make it. 👍
I guess it depends, but you've got the 3d printer already. Personally, I love to mix one hobby with another. As long as you're enjoying the mods, and the time you're spending tinkering with your board isn't taking away from the time you'd spending riding it, it can be really rewarding. I say ride it until you can't fix it anymore.
It's awesome watching ppl realize how much potential they have & the great thing is... this is only the beginning! I say keep going until you can't take it any further with this board. 🏄♂️
Hi Edwin...i have been a subscriber at Grind hard for a while n just now found ur channel....i can see where GH gets the awesome soundtracks and superior production value.....glad to be a follower... god bless ❤️🇺🇲
this is definitely a series I'll keep watching. great work.
I'm here for the numbers. Your overall increase in performance (battery efficiency, speed, distance, and volume) is astounding. I would only continue to tinker if you absolutely need to. If not, I can't wait to see your next project. Congrats and thanks for sharing.
Edwin went HAM while the guys were at sterges
Reading other comments, it looks like the majority would like to see you continue to mod it as best you can and share that journey. I mean, like GHP it's the journey of the thing that is interesting. Personally, I'm the one guy that wants you to hop on the top of the line, completely sorted e foil and enjoy miles of smiles with it. I want to watch you push the envelope with a better design that already exists but I get it, it's probably boring content compared to the improvement process with what you have. Either way it's good stuff man. Fun video and I applaud all your effort to make el cheapo fly. Looking forward to the next update of your e foil journey. Cheers.
Oh man - this looks like a total blast. I’m afraid to start looking at boards cuz then I’ll spend a month scheming and ultimately end up having a fight with my wife who has spent too long putting up with my endless pursuit of cool toys.
“I promise hon- this will be it for sure this time!” 😚
Should have modified it from beginning. Good to see the difference yes prop and wing would make big difference. Changing the pitch of the prop will effect speed and distance. Good luck.
Yessssss! Finally some 3D printing content! If you need any help let me know! Been in the hobby for 10 years, and currently have two X1Cs that are absolute units.
Keep upgrading!!!
I'd love to see you continue to improve this board. Thank you for sharing.
What's the name of the company from who you bought this e-foil?
F
So satisfying to design stuff, print it, and it be useful.
So glad I bought a printer.
I'd love to see more improvements on this board
Im so happy lyft sent you a top tier efoil, they are truly awesome!
It’s absolutely like powdered snow. Love that feeling.
Excited to see how efficient you can make it.
Don't show Amazon on the box in the title if in the video you clearly say Alibaba more than once !!! 🤔🤪🙄😵💫🤯
Brother it’s the same thing. People will order in bulk from alibaba for discount, wait for the shipping and then sell them at a profit when they land in the states.
On Amazon after they buy from alihaba
He says alibaba and internet. Never Amazon although I initially thought the same as well
@@Annon89 it's written on the box in the picture for the video !!!
@@lagrenouille21 you are correct. I didn’t see that til now.
I’m in the market for an E Foil and I just found your channel. Super cool setup you got with the 3D printer. I say take it to the next level and print your own prop!
Do they force you to sell everything for $12k? You can call officials you know..
1:37 a fuse???? that wouldnt prevent the sparking. they make anti spark connectors in all sizes. qs8 anti spark connector is what you want for that application. and BTW those use a RESISTOR to prevent the spark. the resistor prevents the capacitor(s) in whatever speed controller your using from instantly charging which is what creates the spark.
That underwater shot looks awesome
Your prop is not designed to run without a shroud, you could print another prop using the B series prop generator. I printed a prop for my 7.2kW(!) outboard and it held up very well! Just printed with pla+
Another great video! A shroud loses heaps of efficiency a jet pump is even worse . Looks like the board has lasted well!
Good stuff Bro !!! You should finish this one, there is more to improve for sure, showing how you fix the stability issues is worth the time. The 3D printer is really interesting as well.
YAY another video!
👍
edwin, the "shroud" from the prop is actually a nozzle and like others have mentioned you dont wanna delete the nozzle without changing the propeller geometry with it
Shrouds or ducts around ‘propellers’ are there not for propulsion but for a secondary purpose ( such as safety or directional flow) so are Always going to cause a loss of efficiency compared to an un-shrouded prop. As for stability, drag is proportional to stability
Keep going with this!
I want one of these SO BAD!!! I have thought about the diy route… but I might get a cheaper one and upgrade it over time. Tanks for the inspiration!
Really been enjoying the content, I think it’d be fun to see how much you can improve it
You could try hanging a weight under the middle of your printer/plant table, if you don't want to get a new table. ;)
Thanks for the update!
If it's worth it for YOU, it'd be cool to see what you can come up with to make the ultimate upgraded cheapest efoil.
Maybe get (or rent) an off-the-shelf nice-one first to get another baseline for upgrade comparisons.
Keep Going! I need one of these to cruise my big ass around the rivers down here in Ridgefield WA. Happy to find and subscribe to your channel because this is much of the same stuff I am interested in. Liked GHP so happy to see ya doing your own thing here. keep it up.
Get a concrete paver, put it under the printer, then put some foam between the paver and the desk
Keep going with it! I just got a 3D printer not too long ago... it is amazing what problems you can solve with them!
Keep going with what you have. The improvements/enhancements that you make that work for you will show you what to look for if you decide on a new board as well as improving many skills.
New subscriber here.
yes yes! all the upgrades!
I design my own foils and I wingsurf. You should streamline your motor more, use socket head cap screws for smaller head diameter. Try to get a smooth flow off the motor to the hub and consider a cone behind the prop. The motor is pretty large diameter providing a lot of it's own drag. Surfaces under water are important, try wet sanding to 1000 grit, a water jet should slick on the surface with no beading. For silicon sealant, ensure you use neutral cure, regular one emits acetic acid on cure and can wreck electronics. The sealed from manufacture parts are probably polyester resin, it shrinks over time as it's solvent evaporates.
Magnets may not be the issue, it's could be the cord length. That cord type tends to stretch over time, if so it may drag on occasions, and might just need to shorten it a bit.
That was really interesting and exciting. I would love one of these boards and you have shown us you do not need to fork out thousands of dollars to have a go.
The original set up requires the flat prop blades because they're designed to work with the shroud, but that shroud needs improvement, perhaps carbon fiber and a more defined airfoil shape? Print a prop for it...
Yeah it works like a ducted fan (like a fan for a computer case for the computer guys) but that shroud was big, bulky and I'm guessing made of some cheap cast metal so it was a virtual lead weight and not very optimized (likely a copy of something cheap from 40 years ago)
Of course we want to see. 🤩 Thanks 🎉
You said powder and tree riding every day made me so stoked hahaha!
Never watched your stuff before, saw the title and was impressed!
Only released 6 days ago yet you’ve had it a full year, I like that style 👍🏻
Hope it’s a good video………?
That lock up was hilarious. 🤣
Always been intrigued by this as a Onewheel rider. My only issue is E-foil is that its seasonal. Not gonna spend 5-7K on something that I can only ride for 3 months when eMTBs and Onewheels can be ridden almost year-round in CA.
Super cool science experiment! keep up the good work.
Great video, thanks for experimenting and showing the world. It just goes to show cheap isn’t always nasty. You could shim that wobbly foil mast with some pieces soda can and resin. 👍
I think the holes below your new white chaulk is just screwholes for the bulky stock cone end and if the motor is sealed than that seal should be more inside. I would like to see you combine your new end cone and the stock one into one optimized part.
I say, make the lift fuselage and foil fit your mast. Subscribed w/notification...waiting for more 😀🤝
Great jobs, props to you
Thanks for the project, You did all the things i have wanted to do but i didnt have the time and money to do. Great i can rest easy that its already been done. Really fun video, well done. I can see E-foiling becoming popular like kayaking.
PS. What do you think about putting a sliding chair on it. lower center of gravity and less squirrely maybe. Control would be joystick/handles on your sides and sliding chair back and forth and leaning. I am into distance not short jaunts.
Thanks again.
Personally I would be more interested in seeing you upgrade this board because I feel like there would be more to learn that way even though I don't have a board. I fly fpv drones as a hobby. It was cool when I realized why I knew your face (grind hard). I always wondered who was doing their fpv footage (I'm guessing it was you). Your editing of this video was smooth. Well done and thx for the vid. Fun watch.
I'd like to see more upgrades. It's a pretty expensive activity and any tips on getting the best bang for the buck is welcome.
Great job on the video Edwin! Thanks for making it. Now throw a toroidal propeller on there and see what difference that makes to your efficiency.
Keep it going, Edwin. Good 👍
Use the bamboo labs PETG-cf filament it is the strongest filament I have used and prints super smooth.
Petgb by itself should be decent. Wouldn't suggest usimg carbon fiber untill he's more comfortable with 3d printing and buys a spare nozzle
@@czechvirusS bambu PETG-HF for the win
Yeah, use a better prop and a more progressive taper on the cone. The cone can be pretty thin and it can be taped on with vinyl tape carefully. I put vinyl tape over the screws on my F4 and it is so silent. Of course I'm using the sail for power. I reassemble my foil every time because I'm in saltwater
pls DO it, I would love to see the progress, that video was fascinating :)
@ 12:26 you should try sketching the cross section and revolving it. Its a better way in my opinion.
Absolutely you should, I'd buy one now seeing this thankyou
Hell yeah dude, we still gotta go out sometime before winter!
I just went and removed the prop shrouds off my thrusters.
Cant wait to test now !
wow, cool, make the cheap one better, I hate cold water but love snowboarding, I actually might get a wet suite and buy an e-foil after watching this , snow board year round
I would very much like to see how you re-angle the foil to raise the board nose, and see how much better the performance is with a prop with proper tips for use without a duct.
What weight rider are those boards rated for?
Great story!
First time seeing your videos. Saw the train bridge and immediately knew it's Lake Pend Oreille. Lived in CDA and loved going up there.
Is there an Alibaba link to the board?
Thanks mate. Really enjoyed this. You have a new subscriber
100% do what you can to update it. It would make great content if its successful or not. I think a lot of people are here to learn either way.
Make this as good as can be, for sure. It helps us all learn and also makes great content. 👍✌️
That horizon lock mode on the GoPro is insanely good!
Right on! I've been interested in these, but yeah, why so expensive?! Looking forward to watching this later
Definitely want to see more improvements ! I just subscribed.
I was watching a random 5k sub channel about 3D printing scarf seam tips for my P1S and guy was wearing a Grind Hard shirt. Made me think you guys must have some use for that occasionally in the shop.
Very cool. Thanks for sharing
I love my x1-c 👍 makes great prints, excited to see you play with various filament types
Need more!!!!!
Get some of the rubber dampening feet for your printer. Greatly helps the shaking.
A better prop will help too. That one is designed for the shroud with the blunted tips
Cool channel, new subscriber here...
Pro tip on working with silicone: Use an ice cube to smooth over. Silicone obviously doesn't stick to melting ice, and water doesn't affect/mess-with silicone (wet or dry).
Soooo the rule is don't use silicone below the waterline. Fun fact, it doesn't stick when it is wet. Use poly urethane instead... made for wet conditions. Its what they use on boats to seal screw holes on boats.
Ok thanks I will look into that next time!
Nice video mate…. learnt a bunch of new things.. cheers 👍
I have the similar board combo and would love to see how far you can push the limits on this thing. I am thinking about doing something with the angle on the wing myself as its super strange to go any faster than 80% thotle with the nose pointing down as you mentioned in you video. Keep up the good work with your videos, really enjoying them 🤙🏻