What Law Applies In International Waters?
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In this video, we explore how international laws apply to ships at sea. We introduce concepts like Port State, Flag State, and Flags of Convenience. We look at how it all has an influence over the laws onboard ships.
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When the ships were loaded with containers they slowly sunk deeper into water. That's the kind of attention to details that I appreciate at this channel
Thanks Tamas. I'm pleased those bits get spotted.
Also the sound mixing, whenever shore or land is shown, there are bird sounds. and animated graphics with corresponding sound fx feels more grounded. The music fits well and has the right volume so it doesn't distract, which astounds me how often it's done wrong on youtube.
I think good content attracts entusiasts, but good direction and writing creates new entusiasts. It is my case, I know nothing about navigation and I doesn't even have plans to go on a cruise, but the way the information is presented is enjoyful and I learn as a result
Thanks Matheus.
That and the flag seamlessly transitioning from land to being on the back of the ship. So satisfying
Oh I learned so much from this video.
So,so, thank you.
I've been thinking something similar about space, how far away from earth must you be, before "law and order" changes and what would the "international space laws" be?
Someone should tell Brittney Griner this whole thing she clearly missed growing up. If you’re in one country you follow their laws, and if you go to another country you follow those laws.
What if I was to fly the jolly rodger? Would i get blown out of the water by the nearest military naval vessel?
Now I wonder if you get two large boats from different countries, have them meet in the middle of the ocean and work together to construct a third boat so that it was not made in any particular country, can the new third vessel now operate in anarchy while in the international waters? Seeing as it has no country of origin, port of call, or single nation to attribute its construction to?
Anything in international waters can operate in anarchy, until it becomes too inconvenienrlt, and some navy decides to roll up in a destroyer.
Is it possible to register a flag-ship in a landlocked country?
there's one law that unites the entire world, "you are not allowed to get a boat and sail to antarctica"
you can go to the tourist areas, but makes you wonder what they are hiding out there,
I spent 3 years working on the Crystal Symphony among 6 other cruise lines...and I had a bad last contract there where I was declared non rehirable for a few incidents of getting upset and complaining about the food and the crew welfare and such. Basically just sick of that company.
I remember the final meeting when I finished my contract and we reviewed my performance as the ships drummer and they mentioned I won't be coming back due to my attitude toward some of the ships officers.
Whose having the last laugh now? That specific ship had been not paying taxes for years during the time they also weren't feeding us properly or taking care of crew welfare issues. The Symphony ship was seized by US authorities in Bahamas where the ship was registered.
The company is now bankrupt just a year later. Done. My company-man type boss that made that call that failed to consider my position no longer has a job himself.
Hahahahajaja fuck ships. They hire Filipinos and Indonesians to save money and work them 12-14 hours a day with nothing but quick nap breaks between and only guaranteed 6 or 8 hours of consecutive break once per day.
They deserve that.
You could had chosen many countries, but needed to chose Morocco, with half of it not being recognized by many countries.
What if i find a spanish treasure ship from the 1500s in the middle of the Atlantic? First come first serve?
*SIDE NOTE:* For cruise line ships, if a crime is committed aboard a ship while underway, the authority that deals with the crime is whatever port you're docked in or headed to at the time.
With surprising and confusing exceptions all over the place.
A country is not required to enforce it's laws under those circumstances and some won't even if the vessel parties voluntarily submit to the receiving port's authority. For a long time, the most prominent example of that was Spain, if it was not on a Spanish flagged ship and not in Spanish waters, Spanish courts would not hear it.
You also get confusing exceptions from the fact that submitting to the receiving port's authority is almost always technically at the discretion of the ship's master. Thus some smaller cruise lines (and maybe big ones, I'm not sure) have it in the fine print that passengers will be held accountable to law enforcement at the next port of call, crew are only accountable to the flag country's law when in international waters. The Ship's master's discretion has also been used to prevent incident's embarrassing to the operator from becoming matters of public record.
"Laws that apply on cruise ships" can be a really complicated topic.
@Todd m The only cruise ship with an American registry is _Pride of America,_ which is part of NCL. All of their other 16 ships are registered in the Bahamas. Either the captain doesn't know what he's talking about or there was more to the conversation that you (understandably) didn't share. If it were the case of a Florida resident committing a crime against another Florida resident, then the case would take place in Florida. Otherwise, it wouldn't.
_Case in point:_
*"Case 4:* Victims were U.S. citizens. The alleged assaulter was a foreign crewmember employed by the cruise ship at the time of the assault. The incident took place in international waters on a foreign flagged vessel. Assaulter entered 5 different staterooms, sexually assaulting 5 women in the same night. Crewmember was caught by a victim’s cabin mate and was severely beaten by cruise ship security while trying to jump ship. At the next port, Bermuda police came on board to collect evidence and statements. Trial was held in Bermuda as it was the governing jurisdiction and law applied."
_As well as:_
“Currently, U.S. federal law enforcement agencies, including the FBI, Navy, and Coast Guard, must obtain permission from a cruise ship's flag country before beginning a criminal investigation; U.S. agents cannot even board a cruise ship that may be the scene of a crime committed by or against an American citizen if the ship is located beyond U.S. waters”
Both can be found here:
www.cruiseresearch.org/Legal%20Issues%20Relevant%20to%20Cruise%20Ships.html
So better don't steal on ships bound to some Arabian countries :o
@Todd m Not correct, the only ship that they own that is US registered is the Pride of America.
@@TrabberShir in issued
The proud maritime nation of Zulu, national motto "I Need A Tug".
National flagship: Ever Tuggin'
Head of state: Tuck Tuggersson
National flag: The tugcolore!
National Anthem: Tugs galore!
Defense Strategy: Tug of war.
Don't let them transit the Suez Canal ...
I think that is actually Wakanda's motto.
Actually, it's "The fate of the Empire rests on the outcome of this battle. Let each man do his utmost."
I used to live in Alaska. Stripping is illegal in Alaska, and one guy really hated that. He registered a boat in Washington and would pick up people from various cities and take them 1 mile off-shore, outside of state jurisdiction. And then it'd be a floating strip club.
people on the frontier are always able to make a better life for themselves
@YouthRightsActivist A "natural" genius
Proper thing .
Not all heroes ware capes. (Unless this guy did ware a cape.) :P
Lol
Waiting for your vid on Suez Canal
The same came to my mind when i saw the video
Excited for that one
I had made a video on that, do check guys
I am keeping an eye on the story and will do one as soon as the facts come out
I was going to comment the exact same thing, haha. +1!
3:21 he actually used the flags corresponding to Y and Z in the international flag alphabet, that's some serious detailing here
Interesting! My first thought was that he chose Z the way the did because the colors were the same as Panama.
remember when american cruise ships switched to flag of convenience to avoid labor laws and paying taxes... and then wanted american government bail outs when covid hit
Remember when? They are still doing it.
You can't simply just change your flag and not be a united States ship anymore...when you buy a boat you have to register it with the united states aka putting a "flag on it"
@Alaska Pirates Expect that with new leadership they will try again. worst case they get nothing again, almost nothing for them to lose in trying.
But the United States just makes it too hard to register a ship there even if a company wanted to. If they deregulated things a bit, they would generate extra business and income for the USA which would more than make up for the compromise. At the moment protectionism in the shipping industry is at such an extreme level that it is hurting the economy.
@@DingDingTheUA-camBuddy Easy to say when not in the shoes of someone who will not be able to work and earn money in 1 year and prob won't be able to do so in the next 2 years or more.
Next episode on Casual Navigation : "how to properly drift inside a narrow canal "
Zulu, also known as Panama🇵🇦
More like Liberia
Or singapore, or hong kong, or cyprus
@@AlexandreMS71 Yeah, Liberia, but quite possibly Wakanda.
yey my country is popular!... for ships avoiding regulation *sigh*
More like Komi
‘A country’s territory extends 12 nautical miles from its base line’
Unless you’re China and see every country as your territory with their illegal fishing. Not to mention invading other countries island territories and building man-made islands to spread their love a little further
Don't forget overfishing and destroying natural habitats, leaving the invaded nation to deal with the recovery (if it can even be done) and unemployed fishermen, all with the chinese navy within gun range.
Chinese government is a bear who would kill everyone for a drop of honey.
And no one even bats an eye because „China is an important trading partner“
@@thomasautengruber8369 People have started to defend China because of Trump. They feel like they must have the opposite view of Trump on everything.
@@drSvensen sad but true, eventhough he was the best thing to happen to the western world in some time.
Here in Cologne , Germany, most of the tourist boats are registered in Malta. For the sole reason that the Maltese flag looks more like flag of Cologne compared to Germany's. Has NOTHING AT ALL to do with economics or such, or taxes, no no no no!
Lol
Nein, nein, nein, nein!
Its a cool lookin flag i gotta say i dont blame em.
Personally I think Mozambiques old one was pretty dope. The one with the sunburst colors from the plow/ak47/book seal from 50 or so years ago.
@@tsar_zo8007 Jenau! Un dat sagen se alle hier!
Mer lasse de Dom in Maaaalta 🎵
So if a ship isn't registered (say it was like a pirate ship or something) what laws would they follow if in international waters? If they attack another ship, can they be held accountable by the country that ship is registered to?
200nm EEZ
China: I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that
Or build an island in the middle of the ocean and claim it as theirs!
@@afthefragile I would do that if I could!
You're telling me you wouldn't? Why not? It isn't fair?
@@afthefragile if the um actually had a spine they would tell china to fuck off and jog on with their claims before threatening heavy sanctions for provoking countries with hostile actions
@@afthefragile the 200nm eez doesnt count man made islands
@@mathewferstl7042 China doesn't care and built one anyway exactly for the reason of expanding EEZ. Just google Soutch China Sea EEZ island and you'll find a lot of info
I never set out to learn about shipping, but after just 1 of your videos (how an anchor actually works) I watched most of your back catalogue and now eagerly await your new uploads. From the way you easily explain sometimes difficult concepts to the awesome animations and attention to detail, everything about your content draws me in and not just entertains but teaches. Now to find a situation where any of it is useful to me..... maybe I'll buy a boat.
Thank you for your content and keep up the amazing work.
Thanks Luke. Great to have you aboard
I'm in the same BOAT ;) Same reason I watch the pilot 'Captain Joe' and PowerCert Animated Videos whomst makes videos about hardware. None of the 3 I have any huge affiliation with, but all 3 things are still very much connected to our daily lives.
Interesting, old limit 3 miles cannon range, 12 miles plus 12 gets you to range of a typical 16" naval gun, so, despite all other factors we are back to the range of artillery? Could just be coincidence. Thanks for making this video as it is an important topic most people know little about.
Well it does make sense, however it is probable a coincidence as with ICBM's and things it makes range a moot point in modern warfare when attacking a fixed land target.
If the coincidence requires 12 *plus* 12, then it's probably just a coincidence. The number 12 itself came before UNCLOS. I wonder how that came about. UNCLOS endorsed it because of a compromise between US and some others not wanting more and China and many others wanting more. 12+12 was more for practicality given the 12.
To be fair, if missiles fails old fashion cannons will never fail to amaze and destroy the opposition.
Indonesia be like : Haha...not work for us, we are island country,we can claim entire ocean in between
There are no 16" naval guns outside of a museum though, and haven't been for quite awhile.
You referred to them as 'flags of convenience'. I've heard them called 'flags of non-compliance' because the real objective is to avoid taxes, labor laws, environmental legislation, etc.
Exactly, but the corporate gangsters prefer flag of "convenience", *their* convenience...
all flags are in compliance with IMO standards, taxes are not avoided, they are just smaller and have different advantages, nothing is illegal
@@bladebiker100 You're right Laur. Panama and Liberia combined have about 11,500 ships on their registries. China and the USA each have about 3,500. Panama and Liberia are both famous for their marine 'oversight and enforcement' infrastructures --- and so attract more business from socially progressive fleet owners.
The messaging in this video was not subtle
@@davidanalyst671 What messaging?
That reminds me of home, the ferrys between southern sweden and denmark has a liquor store and a cigarette store and when they cross the midpoint one closes and the other opens to comply with the local laws (sweden is very strict with alcholol and only the government is allowed to sell(restaurants with permits can sell)) while denmark either has stricter laws on cigarettes or just really high prices (I don't smoke so i don't know specifically about that, i just thought it was funny how the shops keep cycling to loop around the local laws since the trip across doesn't take that long so they're not open that long at a time).
I live in Denmark, and I'm a smoker; i think a pack of cigarettes (20) costs around 60 or 65 DKK, but i mostly "roll my own" so that price range may not be 100% accurate. However, in Norway they are even more expensive, somewhere around 200 NOK for a pack!
Meanwhile, a pack of cigarettes cost .50 cent to $2 in my country. My personal brand of choice are just $1.70 ish, and at least 2x denser than Marlboro or equivalent.
Edit: it's 10 DKK or 13 NOK
@@BertGrink Danskjævel!
wow... this 6 minute video taught me everything I learned in a semester long college Maritime Law course
test due tomorrow 1 am
Please cover Suez canal incident, I have made a video on it do check it please. 12% of world cargo transportation is affected and it's an heart attack to the economy if not cleared within few days
I hope to cover it, but want to know more facts first. Was it wind, bank effect etc..
We ll soon find out what went wrong.
@@CasualNavigation the company 'Boskalis' who is going to help clear the ship was on our national news explaining some of the causes and methods they intent to look at. They've already made 3d models and such. It's a really big problem as the canal is pretty shallow at the sides, so it's basically a beached whale
@@CasualNavigation Was there Ever Given a better reason to wait with a video?
Sorry I couldn't resist...
@@CasualNavigation Just reupload when the facts change. Easy.
UA-cam: “interesting Morocco you drew there, shame if we DEMONETIZED this video”
What if I wanted to register my ship under a sealand flag? Pirate Time
Unfortunately not only does no sovereign nation recognize the national status of Sealand but in addition the UNCLOS doesn't consider artificial installations as being proper territory of a nation like a natural island would be.
@@ev6558 So let's say i register a ship in switzerland. I'd need the swiss police to investigate any illegal goods manufactured/grown/refined on board right? How would that work, provided i'd never reenter any port while still carrying said goods?
@@munqsy2931 Well if your home authorities wanted to investigate you I'm sure they'd have any number of ways of compelling you under threat of penalty to submit to that investigation. I guess if nobody reported the crime and the authorities didn't notice it then you would get away with it, but of course that's how it works on land too lol. However I believe If your criminal activity is effecting another nation, like if you are processing drugs on the boat and then they are being smuggled into a country without you docking in port, that country could still claim jurisdiction to go after you.
@@munqsy2931 if you're referring to drugs expect to be scuttled by the first naval ship to come across you.
@@FoxDren not scuttled. He would get it boarded, seized and forfeited as well as charged under the laws of the naval vessel that caught him.
I was wondering why my cruise ship traveled from South Carolina to Nassau, but flew the flag of Panama.
flag of convenience
As you're subject to Panama laws out in international waters.
Your videos are always so instructive !
Have you ever heard about the Empress of ireland ? Ship sank in 14 minutes after being rammed by a colier in 1914 I think.
Thanks DocbadLuck. I have been looking at that incident to see if there are some unique learning points to take from it to make a good video
Even if you are familiar with the topic, its always nice to watch your nice animations and well thought out explanations. And even still, you then get to learn more of the nautical jargon. Great video, cheers!
Afaik the federal drinking age in the US is actually 18, but all 50 states have "voluntarily" chosen to raise the state drinking age to 21 due to a law passed in the 1980s that says states that don't raise their drinking age lose their highway funds. I could be wrong about this but I believe that the Pride of America could legally have 18 as their drinking age if they wanted to, even within the US, as they only have to follow federal law and not state law.
I'm not sure if they don't have to follow state law while in port. But definetaly not in international waters.
There is no federal drinking age in the US. States set their own, subject to the arm-twisting you described.
@@ShroomKeppie That's interesting, I wonder how an American flagged ship will decide which state's law they will comply with, if there is no federal law overruling it.
The UK, no minimum drinking age 👍🏻
@@jamesmcdonald1851 American flagged ships are not flagged to the federal government, everyone has a state port. So you have to follow the rules of your hailing port, just like every other boat on the planet.
" Ship Register, Kingdom of Zulu:
1. Sunrise
2. Kingdom Sera
3. Hulu
4. Magestic (sic)
5. Liberation
6. St. Helena
7. Jade RE
8. Utopia
9. Pinot
10. Sea Breeze
11. Westerly Front
12. Piggle
13. Roger
14. Salad
15. Josephine
16. Mary Celeste
17. Story Time
18. River Song
19. Yalkey
20. Gersyt "
Love how Majestic is spelled wrong and how the names devolve into literal keymashes by the end
I'm certified for both boats and ships, and I know the topic of every single video this channel puts out. And still there's always something new and fascinating I learn with every video :)
Thank you so much for this great content :D
Can you please add a Video about the collision Regulation in international waters and so forth?
The only boats are submarines, even then a submarine on the surface is a ship. Are you a qualified submariner. ?
@@MENSA.lady2 Yeah no, a submarine is still a boat when surfaced. A ship can carry boats and other vessels aboard, a boat cannot
Fun fact: the U.K. radio station Radio 1 started off on a small boat moored in international waters so they don’t have to pay a broadcasting license. Pirate radio stations.
I wonder then if you could make a viable micro nation based on being a flag of convenience. If so then I might just buy a oil rig and create "The Holy Empire of Technicality".
Wouldn't work. To be a viable nation, you'd have to be recognized by the U.N. They do not recognize artificial "islands" as nations. I'm certain there are plenty of viable countries to choose from. Even Mongolia, which is a land-locked country, has ships registered to it. It also will depend on what type of vessel you're registering, if it's a cargo vessel, cruise ship, or luxury yacht.
will you appoint me as the vice emperor of alchohol and wild partying?
@@nsfeliz7825 How about High Lord of National Leisures?
Hasn't worked for Sealand so it won't work for you
@@Matakshaman But you can get yourself a meaningless title of nobility from Sealand if you're willing to shell out 50-150 dollars on an amusing piece of paper.
0:43 the muslims here in Sweden don't seem to understand that very basic concept.
The PRC: “What laws?”
Awesome vid. Do you think you could do a "How sea forces affect the ship in bad weather?" in the future?
Funnily enough I thought of this the other day in respect of how sea forces cause cracks on ships. Its now on my list for a future video idea.
Ey! 🙌
@@CasualNavigation you should also do the difference and distinction between a countries flag and maritime flag .... such as in a court of law one sees a flag of a country with gold bunting or tassles ... that is a maritime flag and it uses martial law and maritime law as its rules ... NOT the countries land based rules ... MAJOR difference between them ...
since all countries are registered as their ocean zone limit ... NOT their land .... thus the use of maritime martial law .... and not true justice ...
nerd
There's a fascinating legal case from the US Prohibition era. A bootlegging mother ship, the "I'm Alone", was UK-flagged and would bring bootleg booze to 11 miles from the US coast, where US fast boats would pick it up for the final illegal leg of the delivery. The Coast Guard started tracking the I'm Alone, chased it for a full day, it sank, a Frenchman died, and there was an international legal incident over the matter. Been a while since I read of it, but that won't stop me from trying to remember some details of the various legal disputes:
* Was it a 12 mile distance, or one hour at cruising speed, which was 9 knots for the I'm Alone?
* Was it a continuous uninterrupted hot pursuit, since the Coast Guard did switch ships in the middle of the pursuit, and it did include an overnight stretch where the Coast Guard did lose track of the ship a few times.
* The I'm Alone was UK-flagged; was the Coast Guard pursuit even legal once it got into truly international waters?
I was particularly fascinated by the "one hour cruising speed" claim instead of 12 miles. It may no longer be a consideration now under current international law, but it was a legitimate claim then, apparently.
Maybe I ought to go read about it again.
Wouldn't a "Zulu" ship need to pay their staff $20 an hour for every hour spent in "Yankee" territorial waters?
4:50
sadly, no
Minimum wage is not a useful law.
the flag the ship is registered under makes if sovereign territory of THAT country ... and as such subject to ALL of it's rules .... they dont get to pick and choose what rules they are going to follow they must follow all the rules as set out by the flag of the country they are registered with ...
If the ship is just sailing through their territorial sea, no. However, there is a thing called "Port State Control". If a "Zulu" flagged ship is docked in a port of "Yankee" State, the authorities of the latter can survey the ship; and if they find out that the labour conditions are precarious, they are entitled prevent the ship from sailing until the workers have better conditions on board. Most countries do that based on the Maritime Labour Convention.
Sailing is often prevented because of other reasons too, for instance, the ship is not properly manned or maintained, its certificates have expired, etc. Those circumstances (including bad labour conditions) make a ship unseaworthy.
UN : this is an EEZ
China : you misspelled "My Territory"
Very pleasant piece of quality content. thank you
Yes. But you must include the phrase, “Guess what felony you’re all accessories to” must be included to be legal. - Bender.
Can you do a video about ro ro vessels that operate in the baltic sea exempel of a company silja line love your videos, from sweden.
Admiral Kuznetsov: I didn't choose the tug life, the tug life chose me.
Is cabotage still a thing? I work as an airline pilot and there are some pretty stringent laws on that. Also, great channel. I have enjoyed all your videos so much. Extra points for the soothing british accent :D
Cabotage is generally not permitted by countries, with the European Union being a notable exception, with all member states granting Cabotage rights to each other.
I'm not familiar with that word. What is cabotage?
@@AlexandarHullRichter In this case, the right to sail your ship in someone's territory.
@@AlexandarHullRichter Cabotage is the transporting of people or goods between two points within a country, often used in relation to the law or policy preventing foreign vessels from competing with local vessels in a country’s own waters
Now I know why no cruise ships ever use USA flags when they can just use a cheaper rules of another flag.
Hello, your videos are extraordinarily relaxing and nice to watch. Great job.
So that's why it seams that 80% of ships are registered in Panama.
I hope you do a video at the Norwegian sea and the treaty there at one point. It's basically what made sure Norway had the right to the oil there. Making sure there was already a deal for the sea territories before if oil was there.
In theory 1) the vessel is flagged SOMEWHERE so that country's laws apply
2) the people on board are citizens SOMEWHERE so that country's laws may apply IF That country wants them too!
In practice: It's the captain's world, the rest of you are just breathing his air and drinking his water.
Swapping flags for money is too prevalent these days, my granddad was in the royal navy in ww2, my dads been working on trawlers since the 60s/70s but i have no chance of getting on a civilian ship because they just hire poles and eastern europeans these days because they don't have to pay them half as much as a brit.
No, they don't have to pay 'brits' more because you are a Brit. They will pay you the same wages as they do to those 'Poles and eastern Europeans' on the ship - which will amount to peanuts, as per the Flag of Convenience Country's labor laws. So point is, would you work for peanuts? Not likely.
@@gbnq2513 also the 'peanuts' you call here have different value to 'brits' and different value to 'poles and eastern europeans' because life is cheaper in other countries and more expensive in others. So the 'peanuts' might be a high enough salary for someone in another country to live off and for you it wont be enough for neccessary needs
So...
What stopping me from buyng a ship,sail to the middle of the ocean,deregister myship and throw the flag,and live off eating fish,having solar panels and starlink internet and drifting on a countryless ship?in international waters No laws no right?
Well i dont have enought money,that is stopping me
This is very interesting. Some countries even have two registers, one for domestic ships (cabotage allowed) and one international registry (flag of convenience). Denmark, UK and Norway are some countries with this system.
This is also a way for for small countries to make some extra revenues. Small island states and land locked countries have FoC. Vanuatu, Bahamas, Cayman Islands are exempels of small island nations with big fleets and Mongolia a landlocked country. (I have been piloting a ship with the home port of Ulan Bator, it will never be able to go to that port or even the country of Mongolia).
Arrrrrr! I be a land yacht captain, operating more than 12 miles inland from the nearest shore. And the Admiralty pirates be bothering me all the time...
Can my ship fly a pre-1801 red ensign?
Or other historic ensigns or Jack in International Water
That was a very interesting video. So I have a question. Elon Musk has designed a new rocket called Starship, but the FAA has been holding up his launch license for months. He started construction on a sea launch platform. My question is, if he registers the platform with another country and brings it into international waters, can he launch without FAA approval?
Yes he can. I think hat is why the Electron rocket launch is in New Zealand although the company is mostly in the USA I suspect...
His rockets are almost completely funded by the US federal government so..
Elon Musk doesn’t design anything. The people working under him who he underpays and treats like garbage do.
As a Norwegian, we can't do anything fun. Our laws are made for kids, not adults. So gambling is illigal (even private poker was illigal for a long time, we used to have closed clubs where we meet in each others homes and had huge games of 40+ people. Now we do it a bit more public since the police told us they had better things to focus on. And yes, in the cities cops did raid several of these private clubs).
We got cruise ships going to Danmark or England where blackjack tables and alcohol serving is legal all night (or at least a longer time). There are also a lot of slot machines everywhere on these ships, slot machines that are not legal on main land Norway. Custom free shopping is also a main attraction. This is the northen "cruise ship tour". No sun bathing, just drinking and gambling.
I also find the international laws at sea to be confusing. You are always attached to your home country, but you can choose witch country laws you want to follow in international waters? So it's not anarchy, but as close as you can come. What if there is this one fucked up country that is in shambles? Let's say, Venezuela or Iraq.. What laws do you follow then?
Excellent explanation about Law of the Sea and flags of convenience! As a maritime lawyer I can tell you that this video is amazing for beginners 👏👏👏
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JESUS Is Lord
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Thanks for these easy to understand videos. I'm saving up for a boat and slowly learning basics about boats, laws and random stuff is nice.
Good luck with boat stuff!
did you get the boat
I know 'yankee' and 'zulu' are meant to be NATO alphabet references but I can't be the only one who suspects it's a subtle jab at slurs depicting Americans and Africans respectively... (even as Zulu is an ethnicity restricted to only a few countries in the southern portions of Africa)
Considering the video explicitly uses US ships flying flags of convenience I'm suspecting the choice was deliberate as the stereotypes of rich countries versus poorer ones.
Can you make a video about the recent blockage of the Suez canal?
I play too much Sea of Thieves....
👋 Hi from Philippines
Ships of any registery can travel between ports in the USA, they cannot carry cargo from one US Port to another or passengers from one US port to another. They can for example load cargo in Canada and travel to New York Baltimore, Tampa and Houston discharging the cargo loaded in Canada and loading cargo for non US discharge.
The flag of convenience thing is the reason nearly all super yachts are registered in the Camen Islands. It's a way the mega rich avoid having to have to pay a huge tax bill.
Me, using 300 I.Q.: *builds a wooden ship powered by an electric-heated steam engine, avoids registration and takes people to cocaine and hookers trips along with gambling and fights*
There is nothing illegal going on in my ship, if my ship is not registered on any coutry
I like how the Yankee country is the United States, and Zulu is Panama. Even Zulu's flag resembles Panama's flag abstractly.
Didn't notice, I figured it was a reference to the real Zulu name, the African tribe that is often known for its fight with the British, led by Shaka. But, you point out something I hadn't even considered.
@@autumnberend828 Yankee and Zulu represents Y and Z.
What laws do I have to comply with an Unregistered Ship(Hypothetical)? I mean it's not registered in the first place so which country gets the cue?
At 6:52, I found it interesting you would show the disputed territory of Western Sahara as a part of Morocco. Just found it interesting and wanted to point out that it is disputed territory. My country, the USA, did not recognize the claim Morocco has made on the Western Sahara until recently when Morocco recognized the state of Israel. No criticism, just wanted to share this information. I do enjoy your videos.
What about a child birth on a cruise ship ? Eg. If the ship is registered in US whether the child would be a US citizen, and also what rules would apply when a person commits a crime?
It just dawned on me that this might be the reason why Malta doesn't have a higher minimum wage, even though our cost of living is astronomically higher than the monthly minimum. Entire fleets of cruise ships are registered as "Maltese"
Probably not, as Maltese law could simply dictate a different, lower minimum wage applicable to ships if they wanted to.
@@PrezVeto nope, not really, that would create very dangerous precedence, are you saying that ppl working in ships are lesser ppl to those working on land and this deserve smaller wadge, super easy discrimination case
@@ArcDemonStudio By "could" I was signalling that I was talking about possibility, not desirability.
So what if i assembled a ship or a barge, but never registered it?, if the laws of the country i assembled it in apply anyways, what if i assembled it in antarctica (and let's say i got the parts to build it from many different countries)
then if i swam it out to international waters, and never docked it to any port - what laws would apply on board? who would enforce them?
could i just do whatever i want on it without consequences?
What happens if a ship is registered in a "country" that the United Nations does not recognize as a country? For example, Taiwan is only recognized as an independent nation by 22 of the 193 member states. If a Taiwan-registered vessel gets intercepted in international waters by a country that doesn't recognize Taiwan, that should be very interesting.
International law doesn't expressly solve that interesting matter. However, its nationality must be recognized anyway. For instance, Hong Kong isn't a sovereign State, but it has its own ships, whose nationality isn't disputed by sovereign States.
None of the Law of the Sea conventions obliges ships to be registered in a country recognized by UN. They just need to be registered in a State which (in theory) exercises effective control over its ships.
Im in shipping and containers specifically. Most countries have their own shipping lines. The biggest is Maersk/Hamburg SUD (Dutch) MED (Italy) HapagLoyd/UASC hapag bought United Arab.
(Germany) CMA/CMG/APL (france)
China Shipping and OOCL are COSCO (china) Yang Ming and Evergreen (Taiwan ) ONE is Kline NYK and MOL (japan) Hyundai and SK are Korean. Then there are a hole mess of Leasing companies for all the other boxes. 2 in Hong Kong and at least 3 in the US and one per country so pay attention to those double stack trains as they bring stuff to and fro.
MSK Mediterranean
@@argenisjrg Same would count for the EU if they would decide to build up a navy. They are legaly not a country (but a union of countries).
Well technically if they are not recognized as a country they haven't signt treaties on
ABC weapon ban and their usage or war crimes either.
That gives them some powerful options to defend their ships if necessary and use weapons others may not use.
They pretty much are outlaws and can than retaliate like an outlaw by intercepting their boats.
@@Temo990 Agreed.
Intersting video, and a proverbial thorn in the side of the China Taiwan feasco. With Taiwan being a sovereign nation in its own right.
May God bless Taiwan.
hey quick question ...while the number of countries is steadily decreasing ...there is still a few countries that are not part of the UN .....what do they do ?
00:48 Suggesting that Morocco and the occupied part of Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic are one country wasn’t a very good choice. You could have at least chosen a country which is universally recognised as being a single legitimate sovereign state, like Spain and France, or USA and Canada for example.
That’s all cool and what not, but okok but Like… say hypothetically some one, could be any one, commandeered a vessel, sailed to Tortuga, amassed a crew and was now play Jiggin plundering to the heart’s content? That’s still can’t do anything about that in international waters right?
My dad used to be a helmsman in the 70s. It was an ocean going tug boat that sailed under the Dutch flag. Then, docked in the U.A.E., his captain (Kapitein Pannekoek, which translates to Captain Pancake) was arrested by Emerates police, because they found half a bottle of whisky in his cabin. Eventually some judge there ruled that Pancake didn't had to comply with U.A.E. law while being on the ship. They were allowed to leave, but had been held docked for over 2 weeks.
There was a great communist theorist named Anton Pannekoek
That didn't answer the question in my opinion.
What, if someone gets in the international waters with an unregistered Ship? Or builds a floating platform in those waters? What laws apply there if any?
This was fascinating..
Really well conceived and skilfully narrated with simple but effective animation.
Thank you for taking the time to put this together for us.
Immediate Sub.
Just imagine how different the world would be if employers actually cared more about their employees than their profit margin. Would we have to institute a maximum wage?
I love how you used Zulu as an example, btw Zulu is one of the most spoken languages in South Africa🇿🇦
Not in the least bit subtle was it?
May as well have said whites and blacks lol
@@kennywilkinson913 They're also the phonetic versions of Y and Z, the last 2 letters of the alphabet. Unless the alphabet's racist now, I don't think this video has any sort of "hidden" meaning
@@iinob As is alpha and bravo and as I recall any alphabet begins at the beginning
jog on.
wait so say that a ship of a country with no minimum wage laws goes into the 12 mile zone of a country with minimum wage laws. Does that ship have to comply with the country's minimum wage laws? (ie. pay minimum wage while in the 12 miles zone?)
A good rule of thumb abroad is if you think something is divorced enough from what most would consider the greater good to the extent that you think you'll land on interpol's radar then thats probably a nope 👍
Fun Fact:
The 'International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea' is in Hamburg, germany.
"What Law Applies In International Waters?"
The ancient chinese map law. Basically saying everything is theirs.
6:23 So if you use Jolly Roger flag... you can be free... You can also sail to the Indian Ocean and become pirate ;)
I NEED to know!
Can I start doing this cocaine that I bought in Colombia when I get into international waters?
Help a sailor out here,
I wonder which flag you need to be able to legally shoot back at Somalian pirates outside of the 12 mile Somalian coast?
Am I to assume that there are laws in place forcing ports to only accept boats registered under a flag? If there was an unregistered boat with no record of having been registered or any record of where it was built, would it be subject to any laws in international water?
What If I jump off from a ship in international waters and kill somebody while swimming?
China:according to UN. Taiwan is not a country
Also china: *ignores UN laws of the seas
And there was me planning to invite some of the people I hate on a "Sea Fishing trip"... Dammit!.
True story:
I was a sailor on a United States Naval warship between 1989 and 1992. I was between the ages of 19 and 22. Before I turned 21, I could drink whatever I wanted, all over he world, in everyone else's country.
But when we came home, to my OWN country...this was the ONLY place I needed my fake ID to have a beer.
You see, here in the US, it is OK to be killed by a Soviet Torpedo at age 18. You are man enough for that. You are just not man enough, yet, to have a shot of whiskey.