Please camera man, please try to focus more on the screen and the images shown than on Dr. Douglas Petrovich. For many, this is the first time we can see the evidence. Awesome video by the way!
Are the rooms cut out in the underground springs surrounding Jerusalem made about same time as Gibeonites? Saw the ones in valleys between Mount of Olives and Temple Mount flowing south as one, Southern end of Temple Mount above valley of Gehenna flowing East as another, and on the West side of Jerusalem at Lifta flowing West as 3rd.
John 2:10 [10]And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now. Those better able to control fermentation process make better wine? Can wine be dehydrated into powder and then added to water to reconstitute? After drinkers are drunk, it would only need to taste like wine to drinkers already drunk and unable to detect if getting drunker, so no need to be alcoholic when reconstituted?
I'm a little confused. It was very interesting. But was the wine already fermented when it was poured into the jars and the oil and shoppers put on to stop it souring - or was it fermented in the jars? Also was the water pool and it's stairs completely separate to the stairs and the cistern? Thank you
14:16 Why would you think the glossy tunnel sides indicate plaster?? That immediately sounds wrong! Does the plaster somehow magically make the underlying rock smooth and glossy?And even if that were true,why is the glossy section only be at the sides ,and tapering off near the top and bottom of the strip? This is very obviously wear from people's hands!They were touching or even sliding their hands on the wall as they walked.
Why are you asking? Yes, wine is fermented grape juice as most common. Any fruit can be fermented into alcohol wine, but fermentation must be in a controlled manner to prevent other bacteria that converts fermented alcohol further into vinegar.
@@bookofrevelation4924 i think he is asking because lots of seminaries teach it was grape juice. Jesus's first miracle, not alcoholic wine. Because it was a lot of wine He created. It was unclear to me what exactly he was saying, that's why i looked in the comments.
@@davidpotter7484 thanks for replying with clarification. I did think about the miracle of water changed to wine as related. I had to ponder what the question was addressing because the Professor says wine is made by fermentation of grapes, but then soon after says the wine is sealed to prevent fermentation, which is confusing also because sealing wine after fermentation is to a certain point to stop fermentation and begin aging process to prevent alcohol changing into vinegar as many Old Wine does isn't well known.
@@bookofrevelation4924 most people would have said it differently. Sealing the wine to stop it from turning to vinegar. Wine vinegar has been used as medicine and for cooking for millennia.
@@bookofrevelation4924 Thank you for the response. I was asking because what I heard Dr. Petrovich say was that the wine was kept from fermenting. I took that as being fresh grape juice being put into the containers. Since there is a fermentation process that must occur, and a little olive oil on top of the jars in the pits can keep it from continuing, I have to assume that the fermentation process that does occur happens outside and before the wine is stored. Perhaps in wine skins, like the New Testament refers to. Or, maybe I missed Dr. Petrovich reference how the grape juice is first fermented. Interesting information on a topic I don't know much about. Thanks for the help!
Great question, I put it in search bar and found this in an article, said corks were used some by Romans, but too hard to get enough needed for use at those times. 👇 However, resins, reeds, oils and rags were very poor at preventing oxidation, which causes the alcohol in wine to form acetic acid, also known as vinegar. This led to more unusual methods being used. German winemakers put rocks into barrels to raise the level of liquids and reduce the amount of air. Many winemakers put olive oil or resin directly into the wine containers as well as using it to seal the opening. The oils would float on the top of the wine, and prevented the wine coming into contact with the oxygen in the air. However, after a certain period of time this oil would turn rancid too. When serving, cotton or cloth was dipped into the container to absorb some of the oil, and a small glass was then poured to remove the oil from the top before drinking could occur. In what is widely believed to be the seminal work on wine storage, the author George Taber states that “the custom of tasting wine before serving started as a way of making sure all the oil was gone”.
Palestine is what the Roman invaders named Israel to spite the Jews...Palestine existed..but in the context of the Romans renaming it as a dirty trick...then the Arabs colonists started to move in to the Hebrew lands renamed Palestine
@@clarekuehn4372 Palestinians. If there was a region or country what was its currency? What was their cuisine? Who were their leaders before Arafat? Also there was a REGION called Philistine in Cyprus, why don't they declare war on Cyprus? The HAMAs charter is to exterminate the Jewish people, do you support genocide? Atcheology proves there was a COUNTRY called Israel, there is no archaeology to substantiate a Palestine. Oh btw there was a region called Sparta, you don't see them bombing Greece for independence. More to come.
@@clarekuehn4372 PALESTINE-THE PHANTOM NATION The Quran itself tells you that Israel was the promised land for the Jews given to them by Allah. Q5:20 Pickthall And (remember) when Moses said unto his people: O my people! Remember Allah's favour unto you, how He placed among you prophets, and He made you kings, and gave you that (which) He gave not to any (other) of (His) creatures. Sahih Intl And [mention, O Muhammad], when Moses said to his people, "O my people, remember the favor of Allah upon you when He appointed among you prophets and made you possessors and gave you that which He had not given anyone among the worlds. Yusuf Ali Remember Moses said to his people: "O my people! Call in remembrance the favour of Allah unto you, when He produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave you what He had not given to any other among the peoples. Arabic وَإِذْ قَالَ مُوسَىٰ لِقَوْمِهِۦ يَٰقَوْمِ ٱذْكُرُوا۟ نِعْمَةَ ٱللَّهِ عَلَيْكُمْ إِذْ جَعَلَ فِيكُمْ أَنۢبِيَآءَ وَجَعَلَكُم مُّلُوكًا وَءَاتَىٰكُم مَّا لَمْ يُؤْتِ أَحَدًا مِّنَ And Q5:21 Pickthall O my people! Go into the holy land which Allah hath ordained for you. Turn not in flight, for surely ye turn back as losers: Sahih Intl O my people, enter the Holy Land which Allah has assigned to you and do not turn back [from fighting in Allah 's cause] and [thus] become losers." Yusuf Ali "O my people! Enter the holy land which Allah hath assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin." Arabic يَٰقَوْمِ ٱدْخُلُوا۟ ٱلْأَرْضَ ٱلْمُقَدَّسَةَ ٱلَّتِى كَتَبَ ٱللَّهُ لَكُمْ وَلَا تَرْتَدُّوا۟ عَلَىٰٓ أَدْبَارِكُمْ فَتَنقَلِبُوا۟
Dr. Douglas Petrovich is The most articulated academic in this Topic. Really great to hear him.
Please camera man, please try to focus more on the screen and the images shown than on Dr. Douglas Petrovich. For many, this is the first time we can see the evidence. Awesome video by the way!
Thank you that was very interesting.
Happy Christmas Dr. Doug 🕊❤
Are the rooms cut out in the underground springs surrounding Jerusalem made about same time as Gibeonites?
Saw the ones in valleys between Mount of Olives and Temple Mount flowing south as one, Southern end of Temple Mount above valley of Gehenna flowing East as another, and on the West side of Jerusalem at Lifta flowing West as 3rd.
I would think that they timed out fermenting the wine to specifications.
John 2:10
[10]And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.
Those better able to control fermentation process make better wine?
Can wine be dehydrated into powder and then added to water to reconstitute?
After drinkers are drunk, it would only need to taste like wine to drinkers already drunk and unable to detect if getting drunker, so no need to be alcoholic when reconstituted?
It's fascinating. I typed "water bearers" and "Gibeonites" into the search bar and was flooded with History. Hmm?
Fascinating !
I'm a little confused. It was very interesting. But was the wine already fermented when it was poured into the jars and the oil and shoppers put on to stop it souring - or was it fermented in the jars?
Also was the water pool and it's stairs completely separate to the stairs and the cistern? Thank you
Probably used bees wax to seal the stoppers. Like the oil idea. I have used that to keep water from evaporating out of unused drain goose necks.
14:16 Why would you think the glossy tunnel sides indicate plaster?? That immediately sounds wrong!
Does the plaster somehow magically make the underlying rock smooth and glossy?And even if that were true,why is the glossy section only be at the sides ,and tapering off near the top and bottom of the strip?
This is very obviously wear from people's hands!They were touching or even sliding their hands on the wall as they walked.
I agree with your theory. Makes more sense.
I thought wine was fermented grape juice. Is that not the case?
Why are you asking?
Yes, wine is fermented grape juice as most common. Any fruit can be fermented into alcohol wine, but fermentation must be in a controlled manner to prevent other bacteria that converts fermented alcohol further into vinegar.
@@bookofrevelation4924 i think he is asking because lots of seminaries teach it was grape juice. Jesus's first miracle, not alcoholic wine. Because it was a lot of wine He created. It was unclear to me what exactly he was saying, that's why i looked in the comments.
@@davidpotter7484 thanks for replying with clarification.
I did think about the miracle of water changed to wine as related. I had to ponder what the question was addressing because the Professor says wine is made by fermentation of grapes, but then soon after says the wine is sealed to prevent fermentation, which is confusing also because sealing wine after fermentation is to a certain point to stop fermentation and begin aging process to prevent alcohol changing into vinegar as many Old Wine does isn't well known.
@@bookofrevelation4924 most people would have said it differently. Sealing the wine to stop it from turning to vinegar. Wine vinegar has been used as medicine and for cooking for millennia.
@@bookofrevelation4924 Thank you for the response. I was asking because what I heard Dr. Petrovich say was that the wine was kept from fermenting. I took that as being fresh grape juice being put into the containers. Since there is a fermentation process that must occur, and a little olive oil on top of the jars in the pits can keep it from continuing, I have to assume that the fermentation process that does occur happens outside and before the wine is stored. Perhaps in wine skins, like the New Testament refers to. Or, maybe I missed Dr. Petrovich reference how the grape juice is first fermented. Interesting information on a topic I don't know much about. Thanks for the help!
Any thought on how they would have siphoned off the oil when it was time to drink the wine?
Great question, I put it in search bar and found this in an article, said corks were used some by Romans, but too hard to get enough needed for use at those times.
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However, resins, reeds, oils and rags were very poor at preventing oxidation, which causes the alcohol in wine to form acetic acid, also known as vinegar. This led to more unusual methods being used. German winemakers put rocks into barrels to raise the level of liquids and reduce the amount of air. Many winemakers put olive oil or resin directly into the wine containers as well as using it to seal the opening. The oils would float on the top of the wine, and prevented the wine coming into contact with the oxygen in the air. However, after a certain period of time this oil would turn rancid too. When serving, cotton or cloth was dipped into the container to absorb some of the oil, and a small glass was then poured to remove the oil from the top before drinking could occur. In what is widely believed to be the seminal work on wine storage, the author George Taber states that “the custom of tasting wine before serving started as a way of making sure all the oil was gone”.
What king would Sh m Sh t be?
I see a pattern emerging here. Another civilization existed approximately during The Flood and The Ice Age.
For those that are Minecraft fans, this video proves you can dig straight down and find ancient cities. :-)
Archeology proves there was no country as Palestine
The Antichrist will probably emerge out of Israel though. Read your Bible more carefully and question what you are taught.
Palestine is what the Roman invaders named Israel to spite the Jews...Palestine existed..but in the context of the Romans renaming it as a dirty trick...then the Arabs colonists started to move in to the Hebrew lands renamed Palestine
It is a region, not a "country".
@@clarekuehn4372 Palestinians. If there was a region or country what was its currency? What was their cuisine? Who were their leaders before Arafat?
Also there was a REGION called Philistine in Cyprus, why don't they declare war on Cyprus?
The HAMAs charter is to exterminate the Jewish people, do you support genocide?
Atcheology proves there was a COUNTRY called Israel, there is no archaeology to substantiate a Palestine.
Oh btw there was a region called Sparta, you don't see them bombing Greece for independence.
More to come.
@@clarekuehn4372
PALESTINE-THE PHANTOM NATION
The Quran itself tells you that Israel was the promised land for the Jews given to them by Allah.
Q5:20
Pickthall
And (remember) when Moses said unto his people: O my people! Remember Allah's favour unto you, how He placed among you prophets, and He made you kings, and gave you that (which) He gave not to any (other) of (His) creatures.
Sahih Intl
And [mention, O Muhammad], when Moses said to his people, "O my people, remember the favor of Allah upon you when He appointed among you prophets and made you possessors and gave you that which He had not given anyone among the worlds.
Yusuf Ali
Remember Moses said to his people: "O my people! Call in remembrance the favour of Allah unto you, when He produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave you what He had not given to any other among the peoples.
Arabic
وَإِذْ قَالَ مُوسَىٰ لِقَوْمِهِۦ يَٰقَوْمِ ٱذْكُرُوا۟ نِعْمَةَ ٱللَّهِ عَلَيْكُمْ إِذْ جَعَلَ فِيكُمْ أَنۢبِيَآءَ وَجَعَلَكُم مُّلُوكًا وَءَاتَىٰكُم مَّا لَمْ يُؤْتِ أَحَدًا مِّنَ
And Q5:21
Pickthall
O my people! Go into the holy land which Allah hath ordained for you. Turn not in flight, for surely ye turn back as losers:
Sahih Intl
O my people, enter the Holy Land which Allah has assigned to you and do not turn back [from fighting in Allah 's cause] and [thus] become losers."
Yusuf Ali
"O my people! Enter the holy land which Allah hath assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin."
Arabic
يَٰقَوْمِ ٱدْخُلُوا۟ ٱلْأَرْضَ ٱلْمُقَدَّسَةَ ٱلَّتِى كَتَبَ ٱللَّهُ لَكُمْ وَلَا تَرْتَدُّوا۟ عَلَىٰٓ أَدْبَارِكُمْ فَتَنقَلِبُوا۟
Let me guess , that we’re making grape juice:)
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