EVH Iconic 5150 Direct Output / Oversize Cab

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  • Trying out the Direct Out Speaker Emulation and plugging in the Iconic into my Mesa Oversize.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 157

  • @misiek8881
    @misiek8881 2 роки тому +81

    Never heard Ola playing Deftones before! Please do it often :D

  • @MHDoBetter
    @MHDoBetter 2 роки тому +13

    Loved that you showed what the oversized cab sounds like over the Camera mic.

  • @ERWebster
    @ERWebster 2 роки тому +29

    One of the things I love about the H&K Grandmeister 40 is that it has an XLR out with good actual cabinet emulation options AND the ability to turn the emulation off for DI into an interface and/or IR.

    • @ryanteacher8134
      @ryanteacher8134 2 роки тому +1

      I agree that the ability to turn off emulation for DI purposes is an excellent feature which all amps AND pedals should come with as standard.

  • @denverrandy7143
    @denverrandy7143 2 роки тому +8

    Lol I think all of us that are guitarist right at 40 learned "my own summer" when it came out.Thanks Ola!!!

  • @MarkToast99
    @MarkToast99 2 роки тому +8

    I’m always amazed at just how important a good IR is when you’re using emulation software

  • @BM5556
    @BM5556 2 роки тому +8

    Dude i fucking wish I was able to get the same sound/tone as Ola, his metal tones are some of my favorites, even if most of the time I just hear him play whilst doing a demo

  • @CrushingAxes
    @CrushingAxes 2 роки тому +8

    Man this amp sounds so good !

  • @luigizanellato2959
    @luigizanellato2959 2 роки тому +12

    I think the amp sounds good! I want to get a Peavey 6505, but I'm thinking about the Iconic now, maybe.

    • @ryanlee6042
      @ryanlee6042 2 роки тому +9

      I have one. I like it. It gets a lot of crap but out of a Mesa boogie dual rectifier and a Marshall DSL, I play the iconic the most.

  • @irishRocker1
    @irishRocker1 2 роки тому +5

    0:50 Amp > Cab > Mic > Interface
    1:54 Amp > Emulated Out > Interface
    2:47 Amp > FX Send > Interface

  • @JN-qj9gf
    @JN-qj9gf 2 роки тому +17

    Line DI out really should have defeatable cab sim or none at all these days.
    These Iconics sound great though.

    • @kylehowdy
      @kylehowdy 2 роки тому +6

      Totally agree. Whenever i see an amp has direct out the first thing i look for is if you can disable any crap IR they have set up. If you can't disable the IR, the direct out is now useless, so good job designers!

    • @jamesbrown7468
      @jamesbrown7468 2 роки тому +4

      @@kylehowdy thanks! Seriously, just use the preamp out for no speaker sim. The point is to have a decent sounding simulator that doesn’t cost a lot like built in IR would. This does give you a live feed in case micing isn’t available or practical.

    • @kylehowdy
      @kylehowdy 2 роки тому +2

      @@jamesbrown7468 you're totally right! I'll be 100% honest, I wasn't pointing specifically at this amp saying those things. Because like you said the preamp out pretty much does it since I'm sure the overall tone isn't very dependent on power amp saturation. I was just making a blanket statement that having a loaded output without giving the choice to the user always sucks. And, I totally get the cost a built in IR would be, but I would simply just want no IR built in! But maybe I'm a minority. Either way, the amp sounds killer for the cost, and I wouldn't expect those features on a cheaper amp, so well done!

    • @d77sauce
      @d77sauce 2 роки тому +1

      @@kylehowdy you’re not the minority. I feel the exact same way. Like….please just let us bypass that ish

  • @jollyca
    @jollyca 2 роки тому +6

    Plugging from the FX send directly to the interface - mind blown!

    • @markvandergiessen3158
      @markvandergiessen3158 2 роки тому +2

      As long as you can put a load on the power section (or leave that off), you can!

    • @jamesbrown7468
      @jamesbrown7468 2 роки тому +4

      @@markvandergiessen3158 the amp has a power amp mute switch to let you record without a speaker. From either the Speaker sim XLR or the non- simulation effects send or preamp out

    • @irishRocker1
      @irishRocker1 2 роки тому

      @@jamesbrown7468 Yeah he just means in general. We can see in the vid it has a button for that but other amps might not. For example, you might need a load box with a line out instead if your amp doesnt have it. Some amps will even have an internal load that gets switched if you plug a cable into the headphones or line out etc.

    • @ederiel
      @ederiel 2 роки тому

      Same, I try it on my little amp and just put a real IR what great ! So I'm thinking to have a load box like a captor for example, but I'm not sure if it's necessary with this trick...
      I let the switch of the stand by off, but that by pass the power amp... That make de sound kind of weird... So a load box include the power amp.
      Any suggestions ?

  • @NINERS8able
    @NINERS8able 10 місяців тому

    I tried the 5150 iconic 4x12 cabinet and i cant believe how great it sounds for that price through the 80w iconic head. No idea why people bash it. Mesa sounds great too but im sold.

  • @ArnulfVonMetz1
    @ArnulfVonMetz1 2 роки тому +2

    Ola is the talented Mr. Metal on youtube

  • @PeteHawthorne
    @PeteHawthorne 2 роки тому +4

    Bolt Thrower shirts make everything sound better! \m/

  • @marciocunha2639
    @marciocunha2639 2 роки тому +1

    Seeing that Gibson makes me hope that someday Ola will convert into the Les Paul Custom religion.

  • @Heisenhuegel
    @Heisenhuegel 2 роки тому +4

    Thanks Ola for the FX loop trick :)
    I'm not that happy with my direct output either (I was surprised how good it sounds the first time, though) but recording with a microphone is just too loud xD.
    However, the FX loop input is a bit uncomfortable when wired to the pedals and interface. but let's see how it sounds :)
    BTW: the ENGL Ironball Special Edition has several cabinet simulator seats that can be occupied. Here a test with your IR's might make sense :)

  • @IgoRthethrasher
    @IgoRthethrasher 2 роки тому

    This chanel is more interesting than the regular Ola Englund yt chanel.

  • @yazdan7774
    @yazdan7774 2 роки тому +2

    SHOVE IT SHOVE IT SHOVE IT

  • @yankeerose9011
    @yankeerose9011 2 роки тому +2

    Now that's heavy Ola 💯🤘

  • @TheKorgborg
    @TheKorgborg 2 роки тому +1

    thank you this is exacly what i wanted to know about this amp

    • @ajb2131
      @ajb2131 2 роки тому

      Same here! Thank you for making this video, Ola.

  • @marcelojulio
    @marcelojulio 2 роки тому

    Uncompromised videos are the best in the universe !

  • @schlagdog
    @schlagdog 2 роки тому +6

    I don’t know why these companies just don’t put in an IR of a 4x12 with an SM57 in it on these DI outputs like if you just showed up at a gig and mic’d up your cab.

    • @RX120D
      @RX120D 2 роки тому

      I agree with you. There's processing involved with IRs though. They'd have to factor that into the price of the amp. It's definitely much easier to slap a passive filter on an output and approximate a good sound for convenience.

    • @schlagdog
      @schlagdog 2 роки тому

      @@RX120D it probably cost about $1 extra to put a tiny chip holding an IR back there.

    • @RX120D
      @RX120D 2 роки тому +3

      @@schlagdog i didn't realize miniature chips housing high quality A/D/A converters and a DSP core that can run an IR with low enough latency that it's not noticeable would be so cheap. Surely this chip would only cost about 25c since the development and programming cost to implement would take up the majority of the price of the chip, right?. Why doesn't someone dial up Revv or any other amp builder that has IR features and ask them why their amps are so damn expensive if it's so cheap to build?

  • @BBOZ83
    @BBOZ83 2 роки тому +8

    Running the Iconic in Mesa 2x12 with TS9Dx in the front and MXR 6 band EQ through the loop and sounds absolutely kick ass with both active or passive pickups. Actually have to back gain down a little for the actives.

    • @BBOZ83
      @BBOZ83 2 роки тому

      @Just J Just like how everyone usually does. Bass just below 3/4s and mids at about 1/4 and then back up to just under 3/4s for treble. Basically looks like a smile.

  • @russellkane9439
    @russellkane9439 2 роки тому +1

    01:11 OLA becomes for a second a jazz player

  • @DownDeepFishing
    @DownDeepFishing Рік тому

    Dude that sounded great. On preamp out

  • @TMac-Attack
    @TMac-Attack 2 роки тому +1

    Nice, I’m using the iconic and a Fryette fat bottom.

  • @CodenameCuervo
    @CodenameCuervo 2 роки тому

    Your cabs sound heavy like a heavy metal sonic bliss!!! 💀

  • @ryanteacher8134
    @ryanteacher8134 2 роки тому +4

    If you go from FX loop out into a cab emulation, you NEED power amp simulation in the chain. It makes a subtle, but necessary difference.

    • @d77sauce
      @d77sauce 2 роки тому

      That’s what I’m thinking too

  • @maltekraft6186
    @maltekraft6186 2 роки тому

    very cool video, i totally enjoy this second channel :)

  • @michaelfrancis1
    @michaelfrancis1 2 роки тому

    Cheers from Texas!
    🤘😎🤘
    Killer amp!
    It's on my "some day I will have one"
    I'm actually stopping by to say,
    Go Swede Curling Team! 😁
    Sling those rocks! Yuss!!
    Catch you online man
    M

  • @satarello
    @satarello 2 роки тому

    very nice sounding !!! It has a peavey 5150 character

  • @MadSteex
    @MadSteex 2 роки тому

    great video, still need an Amp simulator after the FX send or Preamp out befor the IR

  • @WarpedENT94
    @WarpedENT94 2 роки тому

    This video was very helpful! thank you!

  • @zekkari27
    @zekkari27 2 роки тому +3

    The fizzines is gone now, as I expected, it was the iconic cab wich made it sound fizzy.

  • @dccallaghan901
    @dccallaghan901 2 роки тому

    Ola playing Deftones 👌🏻

  • @TheIron1
    @TheIron1 2 роки тому +1

    When's the Solar A2.7 Cannabalismo reveal video coming out?

  • @plasticoflamingo2952
    @plasticoflamingo2952 2 роки тому +2

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but, aren't FX loop send, and preamp out, the same thing? BTW, Ola, Loved the Deftones jam!

    • @therewasascene
      @therewasascene 2 роки тому

      Yessir

    • @majkon93
      @majkon93 Місяць тому

      I heard there's a difference in impedance so a preamp out signal is at the same level as the power amp "expects it". Because a power amp would react differently to a signal sent from fx send. But I can't hear the difference.

  • @svartsjokolade
    @svartsjokolade 2 роки тому +1

    So can we expect a full-on cover of My Own Summer then?

  • @phillippitts6294
    @phillippitts6294 2 роки тому

    I like watching the grill cloth move !☠️☠️☠️🖖

  • @For.thalove
    @For.thalove 2 роки тому

    My favorite Deftones song too! 💪

  • @hierrogm
    @hierrogm 2 роки тому

    Super informative brutha thanks dood

  • @Gizmo-st1ky
    @Gizmo-st1ky 2 роки тому

    “Let’s try that or people will be like uhjudhdkfush” 😂😂😂

  • @ItsMrMcFly
    @ItsMrMcFly 2 роки тому +1

    I'm listening to this through headphones while at work and the sound is very 3D. It actually sounds like OLA is in the room with me. When the camera is moving the sounds moves. Its kind of strange lol. Is this a new thing???

  • @TG-of3sp
    @TG-of3sp 2 роки тому

    my own summer 👏🏼🎸🎶 more deftones 🤘🏼

  • @karp616
    @karp616 2 роки тому

    Dude badass war master shirt!!

  • @TheSpineSplitter1990
    @TheSpineSplitter1990 2 роки тому

    I think I've always been a fan of the camera audio rather than a mic'd cab.

  • @TheStrykerProject
    @TheStrykerProject 2 роки тому

    I learned something today! 👨🏻‍🎓

  • @bardonadam
    @bardonadam 2 роки тому +12

    FAQ: I've never played using tube amp + cab, as I only have a small combo. How loud does it get when you play in your studio? Are you worried about a potential hearing loss?

    • @markvandergiessen3158
      @markvandergiessen3158 2 роки тому +4

      He has a decibel meter in many of the videos. That thing broke, if that tells you anything xD

    • @onionheadguy7094
      @onionheadguy7094 2 роки тому +1

      Youre ears can take pretty loud noises for a few minutes at a time without the danger of hearing loss. It's when you go 15 minutes plus that you get in trouble.
      But yeah playing from a cab like that is so loud it takes your breathe away and vibrates your whole body. It's really fun.

    • @tommilitello198
      @tommilitello198 2 роки тому +1

      He has a notice on his watch that tells him it’s been to loud to long,warns about hearing loss,believe one of his demos of this had it go off

    • @bardonadam
      @bardonadam 2 роки тому

      @@tommilitello198 oh yeah, I have this as well

    • @jfo3000
      @jfo3000 2 роки тому +4

      My Mesa Triple Rec is so loud it scares me! Really! Like a rifle at close range.
      I can chop a chord, & mute it quickly and hear stuff vibrating all over the house for a second or two.

  • @IoannisFidelis
    @IoannisFidelis 2 роки тому

    Shove it, Shove it, Shove it !!!!!

  • @vincentrandles8105
    @vincentrandles8105 2 роки тому

    Never thought I'd see the day I'd hear myself say: "the camera mic sounded better than the microphone mic!! What?

  • @leo-.-258
    @leo-.-258 2 роки тому

    Sounds great

  • @KillerwhaleTRX
    @KillerwhaleTRX 2 роки тому

    Jag köpte dimed och körde det i min NUX MG-300 och det blev fanken fett som jävlars!!

  • @InstrumentalArcanum
    @InstrumentalArcanum 2 роки тому

    Nice bolt thrower shirt👌

  • @The_Absurdistt
    @The_Absurdistt 2 роки тому

    This was the Ola emulating Ozzy video. Well done. Now add the Brit accent.....

  • @lifewithintergrity
    @lifewithintergrity 2 роки тому

    My own summer every time

  • @crystaloffrost
    @crystaloffrost 2 роки тому

    Was that a little bit Deftones right there :)..

  • @mateosguitarland6601
    @mateosguitarland6601 2 роки тому

    Sounds good.

  • @SpendCroof
    @SpendCroof 2 роки тому

    Super Ola. I have a question.

  • @jarkkosaari6347
    @jarkkosaari6347 2 роки тому

    Hej Ola
    Best deal (bästa köpet)😅 this or bluguitar iridium or other suggestions

  • @henrydouberly3950
    @henrydouberly3950 Рік тому

    I know you probably won't respond but how does the 5150 iconic cabinet compare with the Mesa boogie cab

  • @miladshahbazi9968
    @miladshahbazi9968 2 роки тому

    i like these videos pls make more 💥

  • @Anshul1614
    @Anshul1614 2 роки тому

    Preamp out is after the fx loop so you can put the effects in and record with an ir. I’m guessing.

    • @d77sauce
      @d77sauce 2 роки тому

      Usually effects are between the preamp and power amp so I would imagine it wouldn’t work that way

  • @charlesrocks
    @charlesrocks 2 роки тому

    The DI is great to go direct to FOH.

    • @eph_kni
      @eph_kni 2 роки тому

      I’d run the pre to a cab emu. That DI out sounds not so great (tried irl at my local shop)

  • @CanalGROSSEIRO
    @CanalGROSSEIRO 2 роки тому

    For me the camera mic is better.

  • @brrblack497
    @brrblack497 2 роки тому

    Nothing sounds sounds as good as that oversized Mesa 4x12 cab in the room. Seems that emulated outputs suck?

  • @lordkrandel
    @lordkrandel 2 роки тому

    3:25 The face!!!

  • @mundane_in_the_membrane
    @mundane_in_the_membrane 2 роки тому

    obviously the emulated speaker output is for all the people who can afford the amp but not an impulse response 😉

  • @shaharbar
    @shaharbar 2 роки тому +2

    The only problem with going direct from preamp or fx loop send is that you lose the power section (which is a big contributing factor to tone through a cab). I wish there was something like IR to emulate the power amp section (so you could choose for instance EL34 vs 6L6, etc.)

    • @therewasascene
      @therewasascene 2 роки тому

      I want to say that there are roundabout ways to do that…but it wouldn’t be worth it at all to have a Simplifier DLX and bypass the preamp to just use the power amp simulation section for example.

    • @shaharbar
      @shaharbar 2 роки тому +1

      @@therewasascene I'm using a Two Notes Captor to get around this. I'm feeding the signal straight out of speaker out.

    • @therewasascene
      @therewasascene 2 роки тому

      @@shaharbar I need one of those :)

    • @JN-qj9gf
      @JN-qj9gf 2 роки тому +2

      There's a few VSTs that do it. I've tried KVR Audio TPA-1 which is free and worked pretty well.

    • @d77sauce
      @d77sauce 2 роки тому +1

      AMT has ok power amp emulation on their VirginCab pedals

  • @GrMfull
    @GrMfull 2 роки тому

    We are waiting an IR with 5150 + mesa cab

  • @masterskey_
    @masterskey_ 2 роки тому +1

    Hell yeah

  • @tgchan
    @tgchan 2 роки тому

    How's your hearing, Ola?

  • @richardjones2811
    @richardjones2811 2 роки тому

    Can't see the point. How about using an amp as it is?

  • @sunnyhaair
    @sunnyhaair 2 роки тому

    A 5150 and an oversized cab but no Chimaira riffs 😢

  • @LeandroPainside
    @LeandroPainside 2 роки тому

    Sounds great! Greetings from Brazil!

  • @bluesfuse
    @bluesfuse 2 роки тому

    Try the Friedman 412 🤤

  • @C-Ro
    @C-Ro 2 роки тому +1

    The camera's microphone sounds better than the Neumann... 😯

  • @joemaeck
    @joemaeck 2 роки тому

    Ola. What is the signal path to get the tone from the preamp out to the Neural cab section. How do you do that.

  • @prodantech
    @prodantech 4 місяці тому

    Deftones!

  • @bahamutms5066
    @bahamutms5066 2 роки тому

    👏 Sounds sick!

  • @nickp440
    @nickp440 2 роки тому

    Do these major tube amp manufacturers ever actually listen to the line out? When my jvm came, i saw it had “silent recording” with the line out. Im pretty sure my farts have more of a 3D sound than most of these direct outs

  • @jasonstone1046
    @jasonstone1046 2 роки тому

    Recto OS is brutal.

  • @johnramos3406
    @johnramos3406 2 роки тому

    Hey Ola! Is your fav Mesa 4x12 cab loaded with stock V30s?

  • @d77sauce
    @d77sauce 2 роки тому

    Isn’t FX loop out including the power amp? So it should sound different than preamp out?

  • @FlightSimDude
    @FlightSimDude 2 роки тому

    I'm selling my Marshall 1974 bottom cab with 25 watt greenbacks. I want to know what anybody thinks about the 5150 Iconic as a replacement cab?

  • @thirteenthandy
    @thirteenthandy 2 роки тому +1

    It would be awesome if you threw in some pinch harmonics in your amp / tone review videos. I find that so many different setups work ok at first listen for open E chugging, but then I try pinch harmonics and it sounds super weak and disappointing.

  • @Nomyzsh
    @Nomyzsh 2 роки тому

    Hey, Dude Is it worth buying ? Cause i was wondering about this tube amp but lot Of people are complaining about that head, i play Metal/ Death Metal and I am wondering Will It be a good amp for this Kind Of Metal type? \m/

  • @noodlehair6566
    @noodlehair6566 2 роки тому

    can you go 4CM but use the preamp out instead? or do I have to use the emulated output (XLR)?

  • @mannyfragoza9652
    @mannyfragoza9652 2 роки тому +1

    you will never have the same missive tone as the Mesa 4x12 coming out of those rinky dink monitors just an observation.

  • @johnyang799
    @johnyang799 2 роки тому

    0:41
    1:56
    2:45

  • @DownDeepFishing
    @DownDeepFishing Рік тому

    And no reactive load box needed

  • @adamsoyer
    @adamsoyer 2 роки тому

    Ola is like pizza. Everyone likes him.

  • @squashua29
    @squashua29 2 роки тому

    i thought the camera microphone sounded better lol

  • @firmansaragi498
    @firmansaragi498 2 роки тому +1

    I wonder why Ola demo in his main channel with the matching cabinets it sounds weird
    Sound so much better with that Mesa
    It's true that the matching cabs sucks lol

  • @anyshittynickname
    @anyshittynickname 2 роки тому

    So, he got a Gibson Mustaine V.

  • @MangoOverload91
    @MangoOverload91 2 роки тому

    Jesus christ.. One mic getting that sound?! Maybe I need me a Neumann.

    • @ScottRadkeMusic
      @ScottRadkeMusic 2 роки тому

      Yeah… the TLM 102/103 sound good, but you can get this same tone (and better) with several decent LDC mics….. or Ribbons too!
      Royers sound amazing, and the Warm WA-67 kills 🤘🏽
      Mix either of those with a Heil PR-30, Sennheiser E906 or Shure SM7b 🤙🏽
      Just have to be sure you are using a decent preamp….. which can be had for pretty cheap these days….. like a Warm 73 or Tone Beast….
      (I use Great River MP2-NV’s….. but Warm, Golden Age, BLA, & Vintech all sound great!)

  • @firmans12
    @firmans12 2 роки тому

    This sounds much better with the mesa or the IR.
    This means the match cabs sucks

  • @keithdearellano
    @keithdearellano 2 роки тому

    And I was right - 2:00

  • @81giorikas
    @81giorikas 2 роки тому

    This is perfect hi-gain sound. That is all.

  • @lootbaglarry8.2
    @lootbaglarry8.2 2 роки тому

    Gnarly

  • @TheCyberMantis
    @TheCyberMantis 2 роки тому +1

    That cab is great. That Iconic is not. ( I see that JP-2c rig sitting back there. ) Hehehe!