i remember coming home from school and turning on the tv to watch the giro d'italia on eurosport. pantani was an idol of mine and the major reason for my love of cycling. this video gives me goosebumps.
I'am 61 years old and an Die Hard Cycling Fan,and i remember like it was yesterday the first time that the world nottest that Small Frame in that huge bike was capable of beating anyone on the professional cycling world when the road started to go uphill in a very Scary and Overwhelming way. Marco Pantani was the most Brave and Powerfull Climber in professional cycling. No one was able to go with him when Pantani did enter on that explosive climbing mode. The Best Climber in Cycling History. RIP Marco,you are a Legend. PS: And that Huge POS of a human being that is Lance Armstrong saying " that he regret give the Victory to Pantani" is the Epitome of an Professional Criminal Cheater at is Best. The name Lance Armstrong should be Erased from any Cycling publication,sites,books and above all from cycling History.
Thanks man, hey I was on the side of the Grenoble Mtn, back in 98, saw Pantanni come past in the rain, then later on tv, I watch Marco struggling to put his rain jacket on, he nearly crashed trying to do it. Phil ligget was commentating and he said he should put it on backwards, you only need your chest to be protected from rain and wind.
i was not interested in cycling until this year. but soon enough i was caught at warching the 2023 tdf. never heard before of marco pantani, but as i got deeper into the history of this sport, marco was crossing my way. what shall i say, except that he was one of the best and i admire him extremely, not only for his cycling and his success, but also for his mistakes, his faults and his being human as o ne can be.❤
Great Rider with a simple tactic: Take your heart and attack and attack again until the opponents are crumbly:-) I was an Ullrich fan, but I always like to see when Marco wins the stages!
Great video, I remember that stage on the 98 TdF very well - absolutely incredible to attack from so far out in that weather and continually extend his lead to the finish, decimating everyone. I also remember the great stage the following day when Ullrich bounced back but Marco stuck to his wheel like a limpet. A lot of more recent cycling fans marveled at Contador's climbing but he was not on the same page as Il Pirata.
Well of course he could do all that, he drugged up to the eyeballs. He had an unfair advantage so it doesn't count that's why he sacked by his team all 3 on the podium 1998 tour de France were using epo
man i cried everytime watching him. Even couldnt sleep to watch next mountain stage taking my father old road bike and going to ride at 5 in the morning. Even today i see pirate in the mountain stages how much happiness he gave us and how many tears….. 😢
To me it has been without any doping substances "The Eagle of Toledo" Federico Bahamontes ! Visiting Toledo 10 years before I met him at his bicycle shop,nearly 90 years of age! He passed away in 2023. RIP great champ 🥲
@@deadloop well you definitively have to suspect the ones that were actually proven beyond doubt. "1998 winner Tour de France winner Marco Pantani and runner-up Jan Ullrich both used EPO during the 1998 race, a report released by the French Senate has revealed. The report released the results of samples collected during the race that were then retested in 2004. A test to detect the presence of EPO was introduced in 2000. Four years later, France's anti-doping agency decided to retest urine samples from the 1998 and 1999 Tours using the new technology."
Pantani physiological natural data: 36 heartbeats/min; vomax/kg=90mi/min/kg; watt/kg=7,5. No one has ever had such skills. That's why Pantani was the best and still is, not because of EPO. EPO was used only to rebalance values.
@@tommasoboccellari270 "rebalance values" - craziest euphemism ever? Sounds like the same stuff put out about Indurain's "big lungs" lol. Indurain had it best - no test for EPO at all in his period. But on Pantani -> "“If you look at Pantani’s times, the power he produced was very close to 6.8 watts per kilo, and that is something no one can explain if you have physiological normal conditions for any athlete.” Sassi, like nearly every top coach now, uses computers affixed to riders’ bikes to determine how much power those riders are producing. Sassi said he could also calculate those numbers the old-fashioned way, with math. *Over his decades in the sport, he has concluded that no rider can produce more than an average of 6.0 to 6.2 watts per kilogram of his weight over a ride of 30 to 40 minutes.* Sassi, an Italian exercise physiologist and longtime cycling coach who trained the riders Cadel Evans and Ivan Basso."
@@huzcer you answered yourself by writing "no test foto EPO at all in his period". That's the reason why Pantani and other naturally gifted athletes had to dope.
Great but the number 10 flumserberg is considered by many as the greatest climb of all time. Maybe not as legendary as the others but the record in numbers purely is completely untouchable by any rider. Efforts to calculate watts pr. kg gives something like 7,5 watts/kg for 22 minutes.
3:31 some nasty looking bruising in the crook of his arm, around the inside of his elbow. I wonder how he got that? Perhaps he accidentally banged it somehow. Still the good news is that it didn’t stop him setting record breaking times and smashing the opposition. Phew!
Enjoyed the video,but boy do you need to work on your pronunciations.I remember meeting the carrera team in Brighton in the 94 tour and had my picture taken with my hero at the time Claudio chiapucci and managed to bag myself a full set of team postcards which I still have and got many of them signed unfortunately not the pantani one ☹️
@@bjornpk Probably a combination of reasons. He was arguably the most exciting rider of his time and also because of the way his life ended - he's a tragic figure.
Avete rotto i cogl... con questi discorsi. Informatevi meglio Pantani fu fatto fuori per un complotto ordito dalla camorra per forti interessi nelle scommesse clandestine. Si controllavano quotidianamente e il suo ematocrito era abbondantemente nella norma. Inoltre gli rifiutarono la controanalisi... strano non trovate?
No one says that Pantani was clean but you have to be honest: everybody was on EPO and the file Dblab by Conconi certifies that Pantani was far from being the greatest doper of his generation. Pantani physiological natural data: 36 heartbeats/min; vomax/kg=90mi/min/kg; watt/kg=7,5. No one has ever had such skills. That's why Pantani was the best and still is, not because of EPO. EPO was used only to rebalance values.
He took drugs to climb hills fast, stop idolising drug cheats. He paid the price for cheating he died ruined the good name of cycling, not just him all their records should be expunged from the record books. He's a disgrace
@@deadloop Pantani physiological natural data: 36 heartbeats/min; vomax/kg=90mi/min/kg; watt/kg=7,5. No one has ever had such skills. That's why Pantani was the best and still is, not because of EPO. EPO was used only to rebalance values. Armstrong was a nullity. For example his vomax/kg was 85ml/min/kg. Armstrong won only because he was the beneficiary of a system of complicity that allowed him to dope at will forcing others to stay within limits.
Be that as it may, what Armstrong displayed at that point and thereafter were the sheer effectiveness of doping. Armstrong was all dope and nothing but the dope.
he's kind of a tragic hero, a Dorian Gray, an Icarus of cycling, in a novel where the whole context was broken. He paid with his life an unnecessary price, feeling on one hand he was guilty of something and on the other that context was treating him like a rotten apple, while the system did a further jump, everybody kept going juiced and nothing really changed. System built on him kind of Icarus' wings, then they took them away (remember Madonna di Campiglio test has doubtful details, since another he did in the afternoon showed a value of platelets that can't be compatible with the one of few hours before), he was object of media and judicial over-attention if not persecution and they put on his shoulders the whole weight of sins which were inherent more to general roots than individual faults (remember that emo-doping started in 80s with self blood transfusions and evolved in epo around late 80s; when Marco competed, everybody was using EPO playing with hematrocrit levels), and somehow he gave himself self-destruction. All this creates a compassionate empathy and multiplies everything good he brought during his career, making gray areas fade back. His racecraft based on insticts, taste for epicness, overcoming odds and injuries, making the race explode everytime it went uphill at any cost even if it was blowing up, made him the par excellence fan favourite in the peloton through all his career. Plus he was a nice guy, gentle with fans, so theatrical on the road, but humble and not playing in real life big ego as other sports' superstars, gifted by an undeniable charisma, great modern rhetorics but nonconformist and vintage soul, all this mixed with an unmatching style on the bike (hands in the drops, perennially out of saddle) and his strongly evocative looks that made him appear like a strange cartoon (earrings, colourful bandanas, protruding ears, being bald at young age).
i remember coming home from school and turning on the tv to watch the giro d'italia on eurosport.
pantani was an idol of mine and the major reason for my love of cycling.
this video gives me goosebumps.
I'am 61 years old and an Die Hard Cycling Fan,and i remember like it was yesterday the first time that the world nottest that Small Frame in that huge bike was capable of beating anyone on the professional cycling world when the road started to go uphill in a very Scary and Overwhelming way.
Marco Pantani was the most Brave and Powerfull Climber in professional cycling.
No one was able to go with him when Pantani did enter on that explosive climbing mode.
The Best Climber in Cycling History.
RIP Marco,you are a Legend.
PS: And that Huge POS of a human being that is Lance Armstrong saying " that he regret give the Victory to Pantani" is the Epitome of an Professional Criminal Cheater at is Best.
The name Lance Armstrong should be Erased from any Cycling publication,sites,books and above all from cycling History.
oh man, thank you for this gem. pantani forever. R.i.P. uran.
Marco Pantani is the most know person in Italy 93% of the people of Italy knew and loved Pantani(Gallup!)
Thanks man, hey I was on the side of the Grenoble Mtn, back in 98, saw Pantanni come past in the rain, then later on tv, I watch Marco struggling to put his rain jacket on, he nearly crashed trying to do it. Phil ligget was commentating and he said he should put it on backwards, you only need your chest to be protected from rain and wind.
Er war ein echter Star. Sein Tod war sinnlos. Ich denke er war ein sensibler, guter Mensch.
Sehr schade um ihn. Möge er in Frieden ruhen🙏
i was not interested in cycling until this year. but soon enough i was caught at warching the 2023 tdf. never heard before of marco pantani, but as i got deeper into the history of this sport, marco was crossing my way. what shall i say, except that he was one of the best and i admire him extremely, not only for his cycling and his success, but also for his mistakes, his faults and his being human as o ne can be.❤
The image of Il Pirata, in the drops and out of the saddle, going up a 10% grade like a rocket, is ICONIC!
Phenomenal climber
Mad his record still stands today with all the advances in technology in bikes… he was a beast up hills climbing
Because he was full of juice 🧃
They are all juiced even today
The pirate ☠️ love his attacking style and fearless racing.
Great Rider with a simple tactic: Take your heart and attack and attack again until the opponents are crumbly:-) I was an Ullrich fan, but I always like to see when Marco wins the stages!
Great video, I remember that stage on the 98 TdF very well - absolutely incredible to attack from so far out in that weather and continually extend his lead to the finish, decimating everyone. I also remember the great stage the following day when Ullrich bounced back but Marco stuck to his wheel like a limpet. A lot of more recent cycling fans marveled at Contador's climbing but he was not on the same page as Il Pirata.
Well of course he could do all that, he drugged up to the eyeballs. He had an unfair advantage so it doesn't count that's why he sacked by his team all 3 on the podium 1998 tour de France were using epo
man i cried everytime watching him. Even couldnt sleep to watch next mountain stage taking my father old road bike and going to ride at 5 in the morning. Even today i see pirate in the mountain stages how much happiness he gave us and how many tears….. 😢
Only because he was high as a 🪁 kite on the gear
@@SusanWillan No unfair advantage. Every rider in the peloton was on EPO then - including Jan Ullrich.
@@TheWelwyn21 I assume you weren't following cycling in 1998. Every rider in 1998 was on EPO. Some admitted years later. No unfair advantage.
This guy was not from this world, and we all never deserved him.
Sadly, we’ll never know how much was talent, and how much was dope.
Because of doping full of gear juice 🧃
Viva IL PIRATA!!!
Il migliore a portato la gente a innamorarsi del ciclismo
Rest In Power Marco
i love watching Marco what a man RIP 💐
Drug cheat
for me it was one of the best climb on the Montecampione, when he smash Tonkov and also climb to Oropa in 1998 this was sprint uphill
Thanks for this pal brings back a lot of fond memories
Glad you enjoyed it! Forza Pantani for sure
Marco for ever! Italia heroe
Unico,leggendario,mitico
sempre forza pantani
The greatest.
I wish it wouldn’t begin with a quote from Lance Armstrong. 😩😫
The best ever climber
To me it has been without any doping substances "The Eagle of Toledo" Federico Bahamontes ! Visiting Toledo 10 years before I met him at his bicycle shop,nearly 90 years of age! He passed away in 2023. RIP great champ 🥲
The h is silent !!! But thanks for speaking of the greatest climber the sport has seen! 👍
Great video.
Its crazy how fast they race up a mountain
As the French say, these clips are very "a l'EPO-que" .
And by the way - "Alpe de who-Ez" and "Tour de Swiss" - lmao - best pronunciation ever!
sure scrube!!! they are all in EPO....
@@deadloop well you definitively have to suspect the ones that were actually proven beyond doubt.
"1998 winner Tour de France winner Marco Pantani and runner-up Jan Ullrich both used EPO during the 1998 race, a report released by the French Senate has revealed.
The report released the results of samples collected during the race that were then retested in 2004.
A test to detect the presence of EPO was introduced in 2000. Four years later, France's anti-doping agency decided to retest urine samples from the 1998 and 1999 Tours using the new technology."
Pantani physiological natural data: 36 heartbeats/min; vomax/kg=90mi/min/kg; watt/kg=7,5.
No one has ever had such skills.
That's why Pantani was the best and still is, not because of EPO.
EPO was used only to rebalance values.
@@tommasoboccellari270 "rebalance values" - craziest euphemism ever? Sounds like the same stuff put out about Indurain's "big lungs" lol. Indurain had it best - no test for EPO at all in his period.
But on Pantani -> "“If you look at Pantani’s times, the power he produced was very close to 6.8 watts per kilo, and that is something no one can explain if you have physiological normal conditions for any athlete.”
Sassi, like nearly every top coach now, uses computers affixed to riders’ bikes to determine how much power those riders are producing. Sassi said he could also calculate those numbers the old-fashioned way, with math.
*Over his decades in the sport, he has concluded that no rider can produce more than an average of 6.0 to 6.2 watts per kilogram of his weight over a ride of 30 to 40 minutes.*
Sassi, an Italian exercise physiologist and longtime cycling coach who trained the riders Cadel Evans and Ivan Basso."
@@huzcer you answered yourself by writing "no test foto EPO at all in his period".
That's the reason why Pantani and other naturally gifted athletes had to dope.
A great rider, who deserved to have a long and happy life, very sad end to his life and very sad how he was treated towards the end.
Alpe d’what? Claudio what?
@james roberts.....yes, the pronunciation is comical! LOL
🤣🙄😅🤣😆
Ciapuci...
Alpe D' HOOEZ
🏴☠️
Flumserberg 1995 => best performance of all time to this day.
His passing in 2004 was a very sad time; he last few years were tragic.
R.I.P il Pirata 🏴☠️ ❤
This was a different sport than todays racing…every era should be categorized because the technology changes
Love these ‘innocent’ times.
“Alp Doo-ez”
Not “Alp doo Hoo-ez”
Sir Ben Kingsley
Great but the number 10 flumserberg is considered by many as the greatest climb of all time. Maybe not as legendary as the others but the record in numbers purely is completely untouchable by any rider. Efforts to calculate watts pr. kg gives something like 7,5 watts/kg for 22 minutes.
You sound like Malcolm Elliott
❤️🙏❤️🙌
R.I.P
3:31 some nasty looking bruising in the crook of his arm, around the inside of his elbow. I wonder how he got that? Perhaps he accidentally banged it somehow. Still the good news is that it didn’t stop him setting record breaking times and smashing the opposition. Phew!
Enjoyed the video,but boy do you need to work on your pronunciations.I remember meeting the carrera team in Brighton in the 94 tour and had my picture taken with my hero at the time Claudio chiapucci and managed to bag myself a full set of team postcards which I still have and got many of them signed unfortunately not the pantani one ☹️
Too bad he died. With his incredible heart and lungs, he should have lived to be 100!
😮😅😊
Beating Riis, Ullrich and Armstrong. Why do people think Pantani was clean? He was apart of the same peloton as the worst dopers in history.
Sorry to disappoint, doping is still happening. Accept it or find another source of entertainment.
@@TweedSuit I do. I just think it's strange that Pantani is so well regarded compared to the other top dogs of the same generation.
@@bjornpk Probably a combination of reasons. He was arguably the most exciting rider of his time and also because of the way his life ended - he's a tragic figure.
Avete rotto i cogl... con questi discorsi. Informatevi meglio Pantani fu fatto fuori per un complotto ordito dalla camorra per forti interessi nelle scommesse clandestine. Si controllavano quotidianamente e il suo ematocrito era abbondantemente nella norma. Inoltre gli rifiutarono la controanalisi... strano non trovate?
No one says that Pantani was clean but you have to be honest: everybody was on EPO and the file Dblab by Conconi certifies that Pantani was far from being the greatest doper of his generation.
Pantani physiological natural data: 36 heartbeats/min; vomax/kg=90mi/min/kg; watt/kg=7,5.
No one has ever had such skills.
That's why Pantani was the best and still is, not because of EPO.
EPO was used only to rebalance values.
He took drugs to climb hills fast, stop idolising drug cheats. He paid the price for cheating he died ruined the good name of cycling, not just him all their records should be expunged from the record books. He's a disgrace
alright let me drug you up with what he had. if you beat all his records. then you can talk.
@@TheWelwyn21 dude you're delusional lmao
The vdo shouldn't mention anything about Lance Armstrong...he is an absolute disgrace...worthless.
The best EPO climber, destroyed in 2000 by Armstrong another doped hero.
donrt be ignorant scrub!!!! they are all doped in that time!!!
@@deadloop Don't be an idiot, we all know most of the top cyclist were doped, but this not change the facts.
@@deadloop Pantani physiological natural data: 36 heartbeats/min; vomax/kg=90mi/min/kg; watt/kg=7,5.
No one has ever had such skills.
That's why Pantani was the best and still is, not because of EPO.
EPO was used only to rebalance values.
Armstrong was a nullity. For example his vomax/kg was 85ml/min/kg.
Armstrong won only because he was the beneficiary of a system of complicity that allowed him to dope at will forcing others to stay within limits.
@@tommasoboccellari270 rubbish he was a drug cheat
Be that as it may, what Armstrong displayed at that point and thereafter were the sheer effectiveness of doping. Armstrong was all dope and nothing but the dope.
Drugs. Doping.
If he was clean then no problem. But he was just another user of performance enhancing substances. 👎👎👎👎 Stop worshiping these cheats.
Can anyone explain how come Lance is hated but Pantani is considered a hero too many, I mean he cheated just like Lance did.
he's kind of a tragic hero, a Dorian Gray, an Icarus of cycling, in a novel where the whole context was broken. He paid with his life an unnecessary price, feeling on one hand he was guilty of something and on the other that context was treating him like a rotten apple, while the system did a further jump, everybody kept going juiced and nothing really changed.
System built on him kind of Icarus' wings, then they took them away (remember Madonna di Campiglio test has doubtful details, since another he did in the afternoon showed a value of platelets that can't be compatible with the one of few hours before), he was object of media and judicial over-attention if not persecution and they put on his shoulders the whole weight of sins which were inherent more to general roots than individual faults (remember that emo-doping started in 80s with self blood transfusions and evolved in epo around late 80s; when Marco competed, everybody was using EPO playing with hematrocrit levels), and somehow he gave himself self-destruction.
All this creates a compassionate empathy and multiplies everything good he brought during his career, making gray areas fade back.
His racecraft based on insticts, taste for epicness, overcoming odds and injuries, making the race explode everytime it went uphill at any cost even if it was blowing up, made him the par excellence fan favourite in the peloton through all his career.
Plus he was a nice guy, gentle with fans, so theatrical on the road, but humble and not playing in real life big ego as other sports' superstars, gifted by an undeniable charisma, great modern rhetorics but nonconformist and vintage soul, all this mixed with an unmatching style on the bike (hands in the drops, perennially out of saddle) and his strongly evocative looks that made him appear like a strange cartoon (earrings, colourful bandanas, protruding ears, being bald at young age).
@@leonardofabbri7930nice one
@@leonardofabbri7930 you served Pantani's memories we all have well. Thanks.
Lance Armstrong was a narcissistic POS
Go listen to Floyd Landis describe his experiences with Lance as a team mate