Every now and then I get people asking for a playlist of every song mentioned in my videos: Well here's a Spotify link for this one:# open.spotify.com/playlist/4v42fB839ysLQ0xhGNVpid?si=a72fcb747b1141ae and the UA-cam Music one: music.ua-cam.com/play/PLooaZ33lSalfaFg3gM3PKMv9JXy0d8_s_.html&si=qTJ0nDrBh2s9MAnS
For those curious, the footage of Swell Maps playing at Kaasee in Rotterdam was recorded by Peter Graute, the owner of Backstreet/Backlash Records, who also organised that concert. Sadly he passed away recently. There is a just released a podcast episode paying tribute to him and one of his significant projects; a compilation album titled Rotterdam Collection. The episode is in Dutch, but you can listen to it here: open.spotify.com/episode/6r0gUcdsxngra3WzofiqRJ?si=765ebcd0a57c4e56.
I would like to add Red Lorry Yellow Lorry to the chameleons as my two favourite post-punk bands, SFAB is on of the greatest albums I have ever heard, a great shout out good sir .
Imagine how everyone that watches the 1984 film "Threads" comes away from it despising anyone that would even consider suggesting nuclear war as a possible option. That's the same feeling I get after listening to "Deceit" by "This Heat". Possibly one of the most important, disturbing, and beautiful albums ever released and I still get chills listening to it many years later.
Damn, this is such a great channel. The Sound and the Chameleons deserve all the recognition they can get. Truly majestic music. Thank you.. That Petrol Emotion and Comsat Angels deserve some love too.
I really feel like I’ve learned more useful information from watching this channel than the actual music classes I took in college… every video on this channel is absolutely top quality in both production, information AND being interesting and informative. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Great list! Here’s a couple other HIGHLY underrated post-punk bands from the late 70s/early 80s. 1. The Passage 2. The Opposition 3. Theatre of Hate 4. Modern Eon 5. The Comsat Angels 6. The Pop Group 7. Pere Ubu 8. Sad Lovers & Giants 9. Orange Juice
Hell yeah for the Pop Group and Pere Ubu, the latter were putting out post-punk singles as early as 1975! Which is insane and never really gets mentioned enough how much influence they had on the development of the UK post-punk scene alongside Brian Eno, Iggy Pop and David Bowie's output. Ubu toured England in the late '70s with their shows being attended by Peter Hook and Howard Devoto, who went on to be a part of their own respective influential bands (Joy Division & Magazine).
I'd also add a few more bands to this list: The Chameleons Suburban Lawns The Cleaners From Venus Pylon Ludus Blue Orchids The Monochrome Set Gary Davenport Urinals The 2x4's Blurt Stump Tronics
Pere Ubu are amazing, especially considering how insanely early their stuff was coming out. They're like the Silver Apples of post punk. I also really love Orange Juice. I found them way back in the early 90s, when Edwyn Collins had that big hit with Never Met a Girl. There was a DJ here in St. Louis named Les Aaron, who was a British expat, on our local alternative station. Aaron mentioned one day after that Collins song ended that he had been the lead singer in a group called Orange Juice prior to going solo, and I was so in love with the sounds of that song that I immediately started bugging my mom to take me to Streetside Records (I was only twelve at the time), and managed to find an Orange Juice cassette.
This Heat and The Sound are amazing! This Heat is truly something else entirely. I’ve been looking for something that’s similar to them sound, vibe, lyrically, and musically. Post punk is just a brilliant genre when digging through it all.
You are, by far, my favorite UA-cam contributor. Thank you for all the reasons you give us to support artists we may not of heard of yet. Finding great music from the past is a tremendous joy. Knowing more, about music and music history makes me happy. Thank You PS: Robyn Hitchcock is perhaps the most underrated musician of all time. Buy all of his records, including those with The Soft Boys. To echo other comments, profile Pylon, from here in Athens GA USA. Nobody, ever, sounds like Pylon. Their sound is absolutely unique.
I've heard of all these bands, partially only because of how much I got into the history of UK post punk due to your video on echo and the bunnymen. comes full circle!! great vid as always.
Although most of the list here, I've not heard anything from, yet!.. I really like that you stated, learning/finding them via Echo and the Bunnymen... What I find interesting is, that most of the Bands, who get the tag .. Goth.. have always been Post Punk, in my life as a youth, We got called DeathRockers.. especially by the older Punk's,.. so Deathrock bands or .. Post Punk Bands.. To many of Us.. Are the same... Because calling the Cure G-oth.. And now even the Smiths is hilarious... And it was this channel.. Bauhaus is a ehhhh . As I've always liked the fast songs.. In the Flat Fields, Double Dare, etc etc . G-oth is so slow.. and means to be.. as a kid it was like... Jazz.. or for a grown up.. or kids pretending to be grown up... Human Drama, London After Midnight.. kommunity FK Well at least I still find New music.. and New to me... Modern Post Punk is alive... Old;.. Skeletal Family.. Title,.. Promise Land.. New,.. Youth Avoiders.. My playlist.. Moving in my Head... Has a good set.. and the Channels that posted them . Cheers from Westminster CA.. I will always be that DeathRocker kid.. now ancient @∅
This video is a real treasure trove from my favorite YT channel. No other videos inform and the same time touch me emotionally so deeply. Thank you so much for all the great work!
I think I’ve found a new band to get obsessed with, the few snippets of Lion’s Mouth by The Sound, sounded incredible. I can see how it was said U2 kinda stole their place by accident of that injury preventing them from performing, because From The Lion’s Mouth has that emotive gothic rock post punk cool of early U2 about it. Really sad story about Borland, they definitely deserved better!
the more you listen to them it’s easier to get increasingly frustrated that they never became the biggest band in the world. their underratedness is basically baked into their lore by now. they’re the first band I think of when anyone asks about forgotten and overlooked bands
You hit my post-punk nail on the head here. Swell Maps actually replied to a letter I sent them when I was 15. They sent me a single and loads of cartoons.
Nice to hear something about Swell Maps, I bought both their albums in 1980 and was a huge fan. I particularly liked their frequent Gerry Anderson references and their witty credits eg "Commander Shaw on Hoverchair" and "Golden Cockeril on Expensive Broken Microphone".
When I was a kid I heard Young Marble Giants on an indy radio station in Melbourne of all places and the sparse minimalism had a real impact. Years later I found their album in a second hand record shop and I still play it occasionally.
This was excellent - I learned so much. Thank you for taking the time to make it. My favourite post punk band is The Cockney Rejects. Hugely influential on the US 90s punk scene & helped spread West Ham from France to Argentina ⚒️
I bought the Fad Gadget and Einsturzende Neubauten collaboration single 'Collapsing New People' roughly 30 years ago yet I still haven't heard it. It is a single made for a juke box and has a big hole. I never got around to making an adaptor for a normal record player!
I could be quite happy on a deserted island with only Underwater Moonlight, Colossal Youth, and Moving. So much beauty and creativity on those three records! And yes, I'm a total dork who like the Raincoats last record best.
Thank you so much for this video and for featuring the Sound. This channel has been my favorite on UA-cam for a very long time. Looking forward to the next video.
Anne Clark's album The Sitting Room is an absolute new wave gem. I consider her in the same league as Siouxie Sioux. She is definitely one of post punk and new wave's great artists.
You did a fantastic job here. I have done episodes on many of these bands on my own channel. I really liked how you connected the sounds of these bands with later day artists. British post punk was so rich, particularly between 1978 and 1981. Punk had declared rock dead and the possibilities for experimentation were wide open. I really wish The Pop Group were more widely known as they would have a massive influence on The Birthday Party and many of the noise rock bands of the US underground. Another band that I wish that was more widely known that was creating music a little later on in the mid 80’s was big flame. Keep up the amazing work.
Once again, stellar writing and editing. And again, I got two or three new names from you. Please consider taking on The Mod Revival (The Jam outwards). My trousers are pressed and ready.
I'd probably add Rip Rig & Panic to that list too. A fearless blend of punk, funk, free jazz, 20th century classical, and music from other cultures - taking further what groups like The Slits and Pigbag were doing. Some stellar bass work too
@@colonialstraits1069 Ah, but Neneh & Bruce were touring with The Slits - Andi Oliver sings on Young Ones and the drummer is free improv fave Steve Noble
In America, the equivalent 70s post-punk bands - The Feelies (Haledon, NJ), The Waitresses (Akron, OH), Shoes (Zion, IL), Off Broadway (Chicago), the dB's (NYC/North Carolina), Pylon (Athens, GA), Mission of Burma (Boston), and MX-80 (Bloomington, IN) - their 1977 debut only released on Island in the UK and big influence on bands like Sonic Youth, my uncle used to hang out with them back in the day in Bloomington
Not British, but Mission of Burma is my all time favorite also-ran post punk band. Amazing and definitely worth including in a second Not-British-New-Canon lineup imo
I particularly loved The Sound. There were a number of bands that didn't break through as they should around that time The Chameleons, Comsat Angels, TV21 and Big Self - then later I was into The Bolshoi, Into A Circle (who grew from Southern Death Cult/Strawberry Switchblade) and Clan of Xymox. I think Adrian Borland of The Sound played with The Chameleons for a while too?
I had a radio show for the last 15 years, on the rare occasion that I had a listener I was told I was the new John Peel. I gave it up recently because people cant or wont listen to internet radio.
All these bands peaked when I was just about 5 years too young to appreciate them. So indeed, never heard of them, even though it is clear that for many their sound influenced the bands I do know. Very cool to hear that stuff (and now off to add at least The Sound to my Spotify list).
I’ve always included the John Foxx era Ultravox band as one of those bands who felt post punk but who loitered on the margins making their own noise. The early Antz material - Young Parisians, Zerox, the unreleased demo tapes, and the absolutely essential Dirk Wears White Sox shouldn’t be overlooked either. That spiky spaced out sound they had going was later sucked up by Elastica, Menswear, Blur and even Franz Ferdinand. Another band Ive not seen mentioned here is Flying Lizards. Their albums are both fascinating.
Brilliantly done. Between punk and the Miners' strike. Great music. Not such great times. Captured here perfectly. Shocking that this isn't a nostalgia trip, that the worry and the rampant paranoia of the times that the music conveys, the lousiness of everything then, the sense of political impotency, sounds so relevant today, in 2025. Time to revive the great legacy of punk, its true indie, DIY ethos. Many thanks.
Good vid, enjoyed it. And yes I have heard of all 7 bands and have many of their records. Thanks for the heads up on the more recent bands, will check them out.
Hey, Trash Theory, I love your channel. I know this is supposedly "new British canon", but here's a recommendation: 1990s American indie rock. So many bands that influenced so many others that came afterward. What you did with this episode, you can do with bands such as: Pavement, Guided by Voices, Royal Trux, Built to Spill, Modest Mouse, Sleater-Kinney, Neutral Milk Hotel, Liz Phair, etc.
Thanks for another great film. The answer to your question would be The Chameleons, at least as underrated as The Sound, and influencing the same new bands as Interpol and White Lies. They are still doing well; I saw them at a great gig in Oxford in 2022, and they are playing in Oslo this month.
As always, an excellent presentation. These were my middle school/high school years, but I grew up in very rural America, and hungered for post-punk and new wave music. Eagerly reading Trouser Press, I knew about many bands before I had the chance to hear them. In high school I began working at a college radio station, which was the heyday for "college rock." I really appreciate how you play clips of artists that influenced, as well as artists influenced by. I love seeing the connectivity. Keep up the good work.
It’s gotta be said, this channel is hands down the best Music Video Essay channel out there. Perfectly crafted and paced, yet somehow never leaving anything out. Thanks for what you do 🙏
Gordons; Associates, Birthday Party; Laughing Clowns, Three Johns; Tuxedo Moon.. There are so many. This Heat were always a personal favourite. Cool video
The Sound not being known is criminal. I am grateful that a now dead friend turned me on to their music around 2010. Being someone who lives in the rural US, my finding and falling in love with an under the radar post punk band was zero, but Corey knew about them somehow.
Another great video. I ashamed and surprised I've only heard of ONE of those bands, The Sound, and I only learned of them a month or so again. 100% my genre, but I somehow missed them back in the day. Can't wait to check out the 9 that I've never heard of. Keep up the great work!
Wire continues to blow my mind. Red Lorry Yellow Lorry and still going strong New Model Army. Eyeless in Gaza and The Nightingales. Shockheaded Peters, Danielle Dax and Fad Gadget just to name a few. Virgin Prunes, Abecedarians. and so much more. Julian Cope, Mission of Burma.
At least the Chameleons now seem to be getting some recognition, especially in US. Comsats seem to have been totally airbrushed from music history. Both bands were hugely influential!
Wow. I hadn't realized how much Franz Ferdinand sounded like Brainiac, a Dayton, Ohio band saw in the 1990s. Love your channel! I hadn't heard of Young Marble Giants, but I will listen soon.
Excellent work. These bands were known far and wide. I was part of the post punk scene in Australia, and many of the bands you've covered indeed were incredibly influential. Such a pleasure to hear them again, and also to discover new great stuff. Thank you!
I love Swell Maps. Our old band were heavily influenced by them. We covered Midget Submarines! A Trip To Marineville and Lets Build A Car are two of most treasured records to this day. One of the ultimate punk/post punk acts, their songs always sounded like they were constantly on the verge of falling apart. Never saw the appeal of The Sound. A very ordinary vocal unlike a lot of their contemporaries who are instantly recognisable by the sound of their singer. Borland was never particularly photogenic either unlike, say, Curtis or Mac who dripped charisma.
As a regular John Peel Show devotee from 1978-1982 these are absolutely fantastic videos. Thanks for your work and massive amount of research that goes into them. This one in particular, gave me the memories of that ever-present global fear; the Cold War at its height for many of us. Being sixteen years old in 1980 was genuinely scary and some of the less mainstream sounds of the time reflected this mood perfectly.
Great video, loved this period , the years following the punk explosion 1978 -1981 was absolutely loaded with the weird and the wonderful and John Peel delivered it all on the radio every night for us to record on cassette! Some great bands on this video but I’d add Scars, Pink Military (you should do a vid on the post punk Liverpool scene and Jayne Casey!), Mekons, New Age Steppers, The Wall. Artery, Nightmares In Wax, The Tights (China’s Eternal was a cracking single) , Ludus, Cravats. The Moodists, Glaxo Babies. Modern English. So many more!
Great idea for a video. Do more! The only one of these bands I had heard of was Young Marble Giants thanks to a friend. Looks like I have a bunch of new music to explore.
Wow, I couldn't make it all the way through the video before having to stop and give This Heat peel sessions a listen. I've been listening to a lot of Swans and something about that clip hooked me. Thanks!
Wow! It's my whole youth on parade! In all the years between 77 and 2000 I hardly listened to any mainstream music (U2 wasn't yet). And coming from the late 70s Movement, I continued to listen only to the underground. That's where the action is! Music and lyrics wise.
You mean one about the bands associated with the NWOBHM scene that somehow have now been forgotten or got lost along the way. I'd definitely enjoy that.
@jon-paulfilkins7820 just a handful of bands. Of course Maiden, Leppard and Saxon are going to get mentioned. Venom, Holocaust, Diamond Head, Tygers...and let's not forget Neat Records, and the labels that followed.
There were some cool American bands from this time period who need a little more recognition because they were innovative and exciting but almost never made it to radio playlists: Wall of Voodoo (yes, they had that one hit but still..), MX-80 Sound, and Tuxedomoon.
I love this channel. It’s so damn educational. I also love the description of the Raincoats as singing with “almost harmonies”. Almost, but not quite... harmonious. Hooray for occasional dissonance!! Happy Christmas my English brothers & sisters in music, and a jolly good New Year. Now, do like me these days, and don’t drink too much. 🇬🇧🇺🇸🎶✨
"Bands you've never heard." I posted a nostalgic bit about Swell Maps just two weeks ago. Let's see, when was this toob put up... 21 hours ago. Dude... I've got the vinyl.
Anybody inspired by the glorious Desperate Bicycles automatically qualifies for my Pick of the Pops! I'd rate This Heat as an influence for postpunk's avant/experimental DIY wing rather than being post-punk themselves. I didn't know about Fairytale being inspired by Poly: that debut 45 is for me still one of the greatest 7"s of all time. "Bands who'd been 50p at the Hope & Anchor when we were 75p" is priceless - Miaow! It wasn't prog that we hated, though - lots of the punks I knew had a soft spot for late 60s/early 70s prog - it was its dreary pomp-rock offshoot: it's an important distinction. A good list, though, and promising later bands that I'd overlooked and will investigate further. :)
The Chameleons and The Sound are my two favorite Post-Punk bands. Just saw The Chameleons live in October and they were phenomenal. Criminally underrated band.
I’ve heard House of Love mentioned in passing by you twice and I would really like a video on them specifically as they just disappeared when Manchester broke. I remember they were called the saviours of UK independent music then. Also more post punk. Much more. This is where the gold is. It’s my one of my go tos. Also a noise focus would be welcome. I have a lot of requests. Here’s two more- Roland s howard. The apartments
I loved this video, it's almost like you're continuing the legacy of the 10 things i hate about you proto clickbait and giving me obscure bands to check out. Also side note: you should do a video about the australian rock scene. It's so endemic and self contained that you could probably cover most of it in one video and there is so many wild places you could take it like the industrial punk of venom p stinger, the mainstream radio leftist political rock of midnight oil, the proto punk of the saints (which you already briefly covered) not even mentioning all the isolated but massive aussie bands like cold chisel, powderfinger etc etc
This is such a great channel. I grew up in the post punk era but all this stuff just passed me by. Some great bands to check out now. The fact that you’re happy to cover everything regardless of genre is so great.
Every now and then I get people asking for a playlist of every song mentioned in my videos: Well here's a Spotify link for this one:#
open.spotify.com/playlist/4v42fB839ysLQ0xhGNVpid?si=a72fcb747b1141ae
and the UA-cam Music one:
music.ua-cam.com/play/PLooaZ33lSalfaFg3gM3PKMv9JXy0d8_s_.html&si=qTJ0nDrBh2s9MAnS
Thank you!!🌞🌞
Can you do one about the song Sand by Eric's Trip, Sloan, and The Microphones? Please? 🙏🏿
I am absolutely playing this list now. Thank you!
Thank you so much for this!
Thank you, and I absolutely love your videos
Hands diwn this channel is above the mark, different class content.
TT is an island of reality in a sea of diarrhoea...
Listen to "Mining villages" by the Swell Maps, and you will see what they were getting at.
For those curious, the footage of Swell Maps playing at Kaasee in Rotterdam was recorded by Peter Graute, the owner of Backstreet/Backlash Records, who also organised that concert. Sadly he passed away recently. There is a just released a podcast episode paying tribute to him and one of his significant projects; a compilation album titled Rotterdam Collection. The episode is in Dutch, but you can listen to it here: open.spotify.com/episode/6r0gUcdsxngra3WzofiqRJ?si=765ebcd0a57c4e56.
Big thanks for posting this! Really appreciated!
is it available for people who are not on Spotify?
@@janssc6326 It's also on Apple. (Btw, Spotify is for free, with ads)
I'm glad the Sound is mentioned here. I just listened to them yesterday after not doing so for a while, way too underrated.
Not usually big on live albums but Hothouse is so damn brilliant
I’d kill for a TT video dedicated entirely to The Sound
From the lion's mouth is one of the best post-punk albums ever
@@mamelaurent Damn right you are.
Absolutely, and not to forget Borland's other projects like Second Layer and theee marvellous Honolulu Mountain Daffodils. 🖤
The Chameleons "Script For A Bridge" is possibly one of the best post-punk records
A criminally underappreciated band.
Agreed!
“Strange Times” right on its heels!
I would like to add Red Lorry Yellow Lorry to the chameleons as my two favourite post-punk bands, SFAB is on of the greatest albums I have ever heard, a great shout out good sir .
I don't think I've ever heard the Chameleons before. I need to check them out, apparently.
the sound deserve their own video
This 👆
Couldn’t agree more, they are a fantastic band
Yes! I've been a fan for the last 2 years. Such an underrated band.
This 🖤 Great video, wonderful choice of bands!
I’m hoping that this video will give their streams and sales a nice bump, although Mr. Borland is sadly no longer with us. 💔
Imagine how everyone that watches the 1984 film "Threads" comes away from it despising anyone that would even consider suggesting nuclear war as a possible option. That's the same feeling I get after listening to "Deceit" by "This Heat". Possibly one of the most important, disturbing, and beautiful albums ever released and I still get chills listening to it many years later.
Damn, this is such a great channel. The Sound and the Chameleons deserve all the recognition they can get. Truly majestic music. Thank you..
That Petrol Emotion and Comsat Angels deserve some love too.
THE SOUND! Love this band, also the Chameleons are sooo awesome!
@@jacobgaunt2438 two of the greatest representations of this genre
Two of my favorite bands 😊
24 Track Loop sounds unbelievably like something that would be released on Warp Records in the mid-90s, but is 20 years older than that. Incredible.
It's absolute classic, like something that fell through a time hole
I really feel like I’ve learned more useful information from watching this channel than the actual music classes I took in college… every video on this channel is absolutely top quality in both production, information AND being interesting and informative. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Ain’t bin to no music school!❤
Great list! Here’s a couple other HIGHLY underrated post-punk bands from the late 70s/early 80s.
1. The Passage
2. The Opposition
3. Theatre of Hate
4. Modern Eon
5. The Comsat Angels
6. The Pop Group
7. Pere Ubu
8. Sad Lovers & Giants
9. Orange Juice
Has TT done one on Orange Juice/ Postcard Recs yet?
Hell yeah for the Pop Group and Pere Ubu, the latter were putting out post-punk singles as early as 1975! Which is insane and never really gets mentioned enough how much influence they had on the development of the UK post-punk scene alongside Brian Eno, Iggy Pop and David Bowie's output. Ubu toured England in the late '70s with their shows being attended by Peter Hook and Howard Devoto, who went on to be a part of their own respective influential bands (Joy Division & Magazine).
I'd also add a few more bands to this list:
The Chameleons
Suburban Lawns
The Cleaners From Venus
Pylon
Ludus
Blue Orchids
The Monochrome Set
Gary Davenport
Urinals
The 2x4's
Blurt
Stump
Tronics
Pere Ubu are amazing, especially considering how insanely early their stuff was coming out. They're like the Silver Apples of post punk.
I also really love Orange Juice. I found them way back in the early 90s, when Edwyn Collins had that big hit with Never Met a Girl. There was a DJ here in St. Louis named Les Aaron, who was a British expat, on our local alternative station. Aaron mentioned one day after that Collins song ended that he had been the lead singer in a group called Orange Juice prior to going solo, and I was so in love with the sounds of that song that I immediately started bugging my mom to take me to Streetside Records (I was only twelve at the time), and managed to find an Orange Juice cassette.
pere ubu is great!!!! i wouldve put the Durutti Column on here
So glad to see The Sound being more talked about, Missiles is one of the greastest anti-war song in the rock canon
This Heat and The Sound are amazing! This Heat is truly something else entirely. I’ve been looking for something that’s similar to them sound, vibe, lyrically, and musically.
Post punk is just a brilliant genre when digging through it all.
Just started. The Sound?! Adrian Borland rules and im pumpt now 💪
Try 'Camberwell Now', also featuring Charles Hayward.
I still use an iPod in my car, and This Heat are still on it.
For my ears, This Heat reminded me of These New Puritans in some way as latter heirs.
One of the best channels on UA-cam. Not just music. Please make a Spacemen 3 video.
same here. i love spacemen 3.
Hell yeah!
I always like to see the comments.. to find.. recommendations...
Cheers from Southern California
YES!!!!!! And their subsequent projects were great, too.
Ditto on Spacemen 3
You are, by far, my favorite UA-cam contributor. Thank you for all the reasons you give us to support artists we may not of heard of yet. Finding great music from the past is a tremendous joy.
Knowing more, about music and music history makes me happy.
Thank You
PS: Robyn Hitchcock is perhaps the most underrated musician of all time. Buy all of his records, including those with The Soft Boys.
To echo other comments, profile Pylon, from here in Athens GA USA. Nobody, ever, sounds like Pylon. Their sound is absolutely unique.
I've heard of all these bands, partially only because of how much I got into the history of UK post punk due to your video on echo and the bunnymen. comes full circle!! great vid as always.
Although most of the list here, I've not heard anything from, yet!..
I really like that you stated, learning/finding them via Echo and the Bunnymen...
What I find interesting is, that most of the Bands, who get the tag .. Goth.. have always been Post Punk, in my life as a youth, We got called DeathRockers.. especially by the older Punk's,.. so Deathrock bands or .. Post Punk Bands..
To many of Us..
Are the same...
Because calling the Cure G-oth..
And now even the Smiths is hilarious...
And it was this channel..
Bauhaus is a ehhhh .
As I've always liked the fast songs..
In the Flat Fields, Double Dare, etc etc .
G-oth is so slow.. and means to be.. as a kid it was like... Jazz.. or for a grown up.. or kids pretending to be grown up...
Human Drama, London After Midnight..
kommunity FK
Well at least I still find New music.. and New to me...
Modern Post Punk is alive...
Old;.. Skeletal Family..
Title,.. Promise Land..
New,.. Youth Avoiders..
My playlist..
Moving in my Head... Has a good set.. and the Channels that posted them .
Cheers from Westminster CA..
I will always be that DeathRocker kid.. now ancient
@∅
Heh heh.. "Hairdo and the Funnymen"...
This video is a real treasure trove from my favorite YT channel. No other videos inform and the same time touch me emotionally so deeply. Thank you so much for all the great work!
I think I’ve found a new band to get obsessed with, the few snippets of Lion’s Mouth by The Sound, sounded incredible. I can see how it was said U2 kinda stole their place by accident of that injury preventing them from performing, because From The Lion’s Mouth has that emotive gothic rock post punk cool of early U2 about it.
Really sad story about Borland, they definitely deserved better!
You are in for a treat!
Its a rabbit hole well worth jumping down, then try the Comsat Angels Early stuff.
the more you listen to them it’s easier to get increasingly frustrated that they never became the biggest band in the world. their underratedness is basically baked into their lore by now. they’re the first band I think of when anyone asks about forgotten and overlooked bands
Holy shit. Thank you so much for bringing up This Heat. All time favorite band and SEVERELY overlooked. Good on ya!
You hit my post-punk nail on the head here. Swell Maps actually replied to a letter I sent them when I was 15. They sent me a single and loads of cartoons.
Superb documentary....will be delving further... particularly with This Heat, Swell Maps and The Sound 🤟👍
The Sound were bloody amazing. Such a tragic tale.
Nice to hear something about Swell Maps, I bought both their albums in 1980 and was a huge fan. I particularly liked their frequent Gerry Anderson references and their witty credits eg "Commander Shaw on Hoverchair" and "Golden Cockeril on Expensive Broken Microphone".
When I was a kid I heard Young Marble Giants on an indy radio station in Melbourne of all places and the sparse minimalism had a real impact. Years later I found their album in a second hand record shop and I still play it occasionally.
A pure diamond.
Sad Lovers & Giants - Epic Garden Music. Great stuff
@@MrRobinnn28 Literally sounds like they ran with the “Seventeen Seconds” Cure sound. I can listen to them all day…
I saw them perform live this year! I'm glad I had the chance.
@@MrRobinnn28 God I’d love to see them someday…
This was excellent - I learned so much. Thank you for taking the time to make it. My favourite post punk band is The Cockney Rejects. Hugely influential on the US 90s punk scene & helped spread West Ham from France to Argentina ⚒️
Modern eon, Monochrome Set, Cuban Heels, Fad Gadget,Au Pairs, A Certain Ratio, and the great Chameleons.
Everyone must listen to Playing With A Different Sex by Au Pairs. Excellent post punk.
I bought the Fad Gadget and Einsturzende Neubauten collaboration single 'Collapsing New People' roughly 30 years ago yet I still haven't heard it. It is a single made for a juke box and has a big hole. I never got around to making an adaptor for a normal record player!
@@czeways5870 I saw the Au Pairs at the Marquee and it was quite something
@@therealbushmanpat You don’t need to make one. Multiple varieties have existed on the open market for your entire life.
@@skaterdavedownsouth some people buy stuff, others make it themselves...
The bar was set high but this video is up there with your finest work. Many new (old) bands to check, thank you.
I could be quite happy on a deserted island with only Underwater Moonlight, Colossal Youth, and Moving. So much beauty and creativity on those three records! And yes, I'm a total dork who like the Raincoats last record best.
Thank you so much for this video and for featuring the Sound. This channel has been my favorite on UA-cam for a very long time. Looking forward to the next video.
Anne Clark's album The Sitting Room is an absolute new wave gem. I consider her in the same league as Siouxie Sioux. She is definitely one of post punk and new wave's great artists.
You did a fantastic job here. I have done episodes on many of these bands on my own channel. I really liked how you connected the sounds of these bands with later day artists. British post punk was so rich, particularly between 1978 and 1981. Punk had declared rock dead and the possibilities for experimentation were wide open. I really wish The Pop Group were more widely known as they would have a massive influence on The Birthday Party and many of the noise rock bands of the US underground. Another band that I wish that was more widely known that was creating music a little later on in the mid 80’s was big flame. Keep up the amazing work.
Once again, stellar writing and editing. And again, I got two or three new names from you. Please consider taking on The Mod Revival (The Jam outwards). My trousers are pressed and ready.
I'd probably add Rip Rig & Panic to that list too. A fearless blend of punk, funk, free jazz, 20th century classical, and music from other cultures - taking further what groups like The Slits and Pigbag were doing. Some stellar bass work too
Also featured a young Neneh Cherry and appeared on the Young Ones.
@@colonialstraits1069 Ah, but Neneh & Bruce were touring with The Slits - Andi Oliver sings on Young Ones and the drummer is free improv fave Steve Noble
please make a video about john mcgeoch or the band magazine, i believe their legacy deserves to be told by you
Oh my god YES please!!
In America, the equivalent 70s post-punk bands - The Feelies (Haledon, NJ), The Waitresses (Akron, OH), Shoes (Zion, IL), Off Broadway (Chicago), the dB's (NYC/North Carolina), Pylon (Athens, GA), Mission of Burma (Boston), and MX-80 (Bloomington, IN) - their 1977 debut only released on Island in the UK and big influence on bands like Sonic Youth, my uncle used to hang out with them back in the day in Bloomington
Not to quibble with your fine list but Mission of Burma is actually first wave punk.
The dBs were a great live act.
Not British, but Mission of Burma is my all time favorite also-ran post punk band. Amazing and definitely worth including in a second Not-British-New-Canon lineup imo
The Horrible Truth About Burma is a great live album.
I particularly loved The Sound. There were a number of bands that didn't break through as they should around that time The Chameleons, Comsat Angels, TV21 and Big Self - then later I was into The Bolshoi, Into A Circle (who grew from Southern Death Cult/Strawberry Switchblade) and Clan of Xymox. I think Adrian Borland of The Sound played with The Chameleons for a while too?
We really need a modern John Peel who will expose more interesting sounding groups
I’ve got a chest of drawers full of cassette recordings of his shows. The Festive 50 was always something to look forward to.
@ you should digitize them and put them on UA-cam!
@@harperellenburg Every show available is already upon a website.
I had a radio show for the last 15 years, on the rare occasion that I had a listener I was told I was the new John Peel. I gave it up recently because people cant or wont listen to internet radio.
His son does a great job on BBC radio 6.
Nice too see the sound still getting some airtime on radio stations in the Benelux. Winning is such a amazing song and totally overlooked in the UK.
What about Tear Drop Explodes Julan Cope!!!Great stuff !!
All these bands peaked when I was just about 5 years too young to appreciate them. So indeed, never heard of them, even though it is clear that for many their sound influenced the bands I do know. Very cool to hear that stuff (and now off to add at least The Sound to my Spotify list).
That seems to be the universal reaction when people first discover The Sound :)
Can we have an Underworld or Orbital Trash Theory one day?
“Or”? We need Underworld AND Orbital!
Yes, Underworld please
Would be so cool
Orbital would be amazing. Maybe the big beat era of the late 90s early 00s too.
Orbital please
I’ve always included the John Foxx era Ultravox band as one of those bands who felt post punk but who loitered on the margins making their own noise.
The early Antz material - Young Parisians, Zerox, the unreleased demo tapes, and the absolutely essential Dirk Wears White Sox shouldn’t be overlooked either. That spiky spaced out sound they had going was later sucked up by Elastica, Menswear, Blur and even Franz Ferdinand.
Another band Ive not seen mentioned here is Flying Lizards. Their albums are both fascinating.
Brilliantly done. Between punk and the Miners' strike. Great music. Not such great times. Captured here perfectly. Shocking that this isn't a nostalgia trip, that the worry and the rampant paranoia of the times that the music conveys, the lousiness of everything then, the sense of political impotency, sounds so relevant today, in 2025. Time to revive the great legacy of punk, its true indie, DIY ethos. Many thanks.
And Also the Trees is my vote for addition to this list
Good vid, enjoyed it. And yes I have heard of all 7 bands and have many of their records. Thanks for the heads up on the more recent bands, will check them out.
Hey, Trash Theory, I love your channel. I know this is supposedly "new British canon", but here's a recommendation: 1990s American indie rock. So many bands that influenced so many others that came afterward. What you did with this episode, you can do with bands such as: Pavement, Guided by Voices, Royal Trux, Built to Spill, Modest Mouse, Sleater-Kinney, Neutral Milk Hotel, Liz Phair, etc.
Cardiacs?
Great video as usual
Siekiera - Nowa Aleksandria LP (Poland 1986)
The cherry on top for this channel is the Spotify playlist. I know this one is going to be absolutely killer.
Thanks for another great film. The answer to your question would be The Chameleons, at least as underrated as The Sound, and influencing the same new bands as Interpol and White Lies. They are still doing well; I saw them at a great gig in Oxford in 2022, and they are playing in Oslo this month.
So awesome you included Skating Polly. I never see anyone talk about them or mention them. They are one of my favorite bands.
As always, an excellent presentation. These were my middle school/high school years, but I grew up in very rural America, and hungered for post-punk and new wave music. Eagerly reading Trouser Press, I knew about many bands before I had the chance to hear them. In high school I began working at a college radio station, which was the heyday for "college rock." I really appreciate how you play clips of artists that influenced, as well as artists influenced by. I love seeing the connectivity. Keep up the good work.
It’s gotta be said, this channel is hands down the best Music Video Essay channel out there. Perfectly crafted and paced, yet somehow never leaving anything out. Thanks for what you do 🙏
Been following for a while and this one was special.
Have a Great Festive Season.
Pete
Definitely well aware of all of these bands, but still super-happy to see them getting love and perhaps finding new fans. 😃
Gordons; Associates, Birthday Party; Laughing Clowns, Three Johns; Tuxedo Moon.. There are so many. This Heat were always a personal favourite. Cool video
Nice and early for this one. Just wanted to give you props Trash Theory, you're the only music channel I never skip an upload from. Keep it up
Comsat Angels another postpunk wonder
Durutti Columnd did fun experimentation in the early 80s
outside the anglosphere, you had Friccion
The Sound not being known is criminal. I am grateful that a now dead friend turned me on to their music around 2010. Being someone who lives in the rural US, my finding and falling in love with an under the radar post punk band was zero, but Corey knew about them somehow.
ill never get tired of the "my favourite bands band" genre of video
Another great video. I ashamed and surprised I've only heard of ONE of those bands, The Sound, and I only learned of them a month or so again. 100% my genre, but I somehow missed them back in the day. Can't wait to check out the 9 that I've never heard of. Keep up the great work!
Wire continues to blow my mind. Red Lorry Yellow Lorry and still going strong New Model Army. Eyeless in Gaza and The Nightingales. Shockheaded Peters, Danielle Dax and Fad Gadget just to name a few. Virgin Prunes, Abecedarians. and so much more. Julian Cope, Mission of Burma.
The Sound, The Chameleons, and Comsat Angels deserve vids of their own
Saw the Chameleons tour with the Mission recently. Absolutely stellar.
@@JohnMacRae23 YES!! The Comsat Angels are fantastic!
Yes please!
At least the Chameleons now seem to be getting some recognition, especially in US. Comsats seem to have been totally airbrushed from music history. Both bands were hugely influential!
Comsat Angels were huge with us guys in Welwyn back in the day lol
nice video but I thought we are all already listening to these bands :)
Wow. I hadn't realized how much Franz Ferdinand sounded like Brainiac, a Dayton, Ohio band saw in the 1990s. Love your channel! I hadn't heard of Young Marble Giants, but I will listen soon.
If u like vinyl, they reissued YMG Colossal Youth not long ago
Excellent work. These bands were known far and wide. I was part of the post punk scene in Australia, and many of the bands you've covered indeed were incredibly influential. Such a pleasure to hear them again, and also to discover new great stuff. Thank you!
Favorite lyric of The Sound, *From the safest places come the bravest words*, resonates as strongly now as it ever did. RIP
"Scratched away at the walls for years
All we've got to show is the dust on the floor"
I love Swell Maps. Our old band were heavily influenced by them. We covered Midget Submarines!
A Trip To Marineville and Lets Build A Car are two of most treasured records to this day. One of the ultimate punk/post punk acts, their songs always sounded like they were constantly on the verge of falling apart.
Never saw the appeal of The Sound. A very ordinary vocal unlike a lot of their contemporaries who are instantly recognisable by the sound of their singer. Borland was never particularly photogenic either unlike, say, Curtis or Mac who dripped charisma.
As a regular John Peel Show devotee from 1978-1982 these are absolutely fantastic videos. Thanks for your work and massive amount of research that goes into them. This one in particular, gave me the memories of that ever-present global fear; the Cold War at its height for many of us. Being sixteen years old in 1980 was genuinely scary and some of the less mainstream sounds of the time reflected this mood perfectly.
The Sound deserved to be as big as The Cure.
Soft boys, the sound, and swell maps are some of the best ever
Robyn Hitchcock & the Egyptians are well worth checking out too.
@@douglasarthur2673 I was lucky enough to see them live. Robyn's monologues between the songs were worth the entry price alone.
Fantastic documentary, brilliant research.
Great video, loved this period , the years following the punk explosion 1978 -1981 was absolutely loaded with the weird and the wonderful and John Peel delivered it all on the radio every night for us to record on cassette! Some great bands on this video but I’d add Scars, Pink Military (you should do a vid on the post punk Liverpool scene and Jayne Casey!), Mekons, New Age Steppers, The Wall. Artery, Nightmares In Wax, The Tights (China’s Eternal was a cracking single) , Ludus, Cravats. The Moodists, Glaxo Babies. Modern English. So many more!
Was expecting Sad Lovers and Giants to be on the list. Still great seeing The Sound get some recognition on here.
This Heat. Thank you for covering them.
Great idea for a video. Do more! The only one of these bands I had heard of was Young Marble Giants thanks to a friend. Looks like I have a bunch of new music to explore.
This Heat is one of my favorite groups ever. I love anything with Charles Hayward. His project Camberwell Now is also amazing.
This Is Not This Heat was amazing live - renamed as Gareth had died, plus expanded lineup
Wow, I couldn't make it all the way through the video before having to stop and give This Heat peel sessions a listen. I've been listening to a lot of Swans and something about that clip hooked me. Thanks!
Wow! It's my whole youth on parade!
In all the years between 77 and 2000 I hardly listened to any mainstream music (U2 wasn't yet).
And coming from the late 70s Movement, I continued to listen only to the underground.
That's where the action is! Music and lyrics wise.
This was soooo slick. Excellent production value! Enjoyed every second!
Great episode as always; for a future video, how about a similar one on NWOBHM? Just a suggestion.
You mean one about the bands associated with the NWOBHM scene that somehow have now been forgotten or got lost along the way. I'd definitely enjoy that.
@jon-paulfilkins7820 just a handful of bands. Of course Maiden, Leppard and Saxon are going to get mentioned. Venom, Holocaust, Diamond Head, Tygers...and let's not forget Neat Records, and the labels that followed.
There were some cool American bands from this time period who need a little more recognition because they were innovative and exciting but almost never made it to radio playlists: Wall of Voodoo (yes, they had that one hit but still..), MX-80 Sound, and Tuxedomoon.
This is another banger! Thanks so much for these videos. One of my favourite channels.
This is a fantastic overview, and definitely filled my "listen to next" queue for the next 2 days!
Agora vou ficar na expectativa de um video sobre John Peel.
I love this channel. It’s so damn educational. I also love the description of the Raincoats as singing with “almost harmonies”. Almost, but not quite... harmonious. Hooray for occasional dissonance!! Happy Christmas my English brothers & sisters in music, and a jolly good New Year. Now, do like me these days, and don’t drink too much. 🇬🇧🇺🇸🎶✨
"Bands you've never heard."
I posted a nostalgic bit about Swell Maps just two weeks ago.
Let's see, when was this toob put up... 21 hours ago.
Dude... I've got the vinyl.
Anybody inspired by the glorious Desperate Bicycles automatically qualifies for my Pick of the Pops! I'd rate This Heat as an influence for postpunk's avant/experimental DIY wing rather than being post-punk themselves. I didn't know about Fairytale being inspired by Poly: that debut 45 is for me still one of the greatest 7"s of all time. "Bands who'd been 50p at the Hope & Anchor when we were 75p" is priceless - Miaow! It wasn't prog that we hated, though - lots of the punks I knew had a soft spot for late 60s/early 70s prog - it was its dreary pomp-rock offshoot: it's an important distinction. A good list, though, and promising later bands that I'd overlooked and will investigate further. :)
The Chameleons and The Sound are my two favorite Post-Punk bands. Just saw The Chameleons live in October and they were phenomenal. Criminally underrated band.
I’ve heard House of Love mentioned in passing by you twice and I would really like a video on them specifically as they just disappeared when Manchester broke. I remember they were called the saviours of UK independent music then.
Also more post punk. Much more. This is where the gold is. It’s my one of my go tos. Also a noise focus would be welcome. I have a lot of requests. Here’s two more- Roland s howard. The apartments
One of the great might-have-been bands. Their debut in particular is a lovely album.
Oh, hell yes, The Sound...
I found out about The Sound in that era where MGMT was big and From the Lion's Mouth found its way into my regular rotation, it's so good
The Sound is the real deal. Adrian Borland and is band are the Best
I loved this video, it's almost like you're continuing the legacy of the 10 things i hate about you proto clickbait and giving me obscure bands to check out. Also side note: you should do a video about the australian rock scene. It's so endemic and self contained that you could probably cover most of it in one video and there is so many wild places you could take it like the industrial punk of venom p stinger, the mainstream radio leftist political rock of midnight oil, the proto punk of the saints (which you already briefly covered) not even mentioning all the isolated but massive aussie bands like cold chisel, powderfinger etc etc
GOSH I have so much to get into! I already knew this heat and the raincoats, but I’m really liking all the other ones you included
This is such a great channel. I grew up in the post punk era but all this stuff just passed me by. Some great bands to check out now. The fact that you’re happy to cover everything regardless of genre is so great.
Right. Gonna watch again and this time take notes for bands to look up