The Endless Struggle Behind Soft Cell & TAINTED LOVE | New British Canon

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    British Electropop came down to four main ingredients: Kraftwerk, “I Feel Love,” David Bowie and Punk. With the latter it wasn’t so much the sound as the attitude, the DIY idea that anyone can form a band. While Punk Rock required you to learn how to play guitar chords, with electropop’s synths you only needed one finger to write a song. Gary Numan with His Tubeway Army were the first punks to gain a UK number one with a synthesizer, but he would not be the last. One of the most enduring electropop hits was in 1981 by Soft Cell. Though often painted as a one hit wonder, the duo are so much more, having hits with "Bedsitter", "Torch", "Say Hello, Wave Goodbye" and "What!" as well as influencing everything from Pop, Darkwave, Industrial and Dance music in their wake. This is New British Canon and this is the story of “Tainted Love.”
    #TaintedLove #80sPop #Documentary
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    00:00 Introduction
    01:28 The Origins of Soft Cell
    05:01 A Brief History of Tainted Love
    07:38 Recording Tainted Love
    10:54 Release of Tainted Love & Everything After
    16:15 The Enduring Influence of Soft Cell
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  • @TrashTheory
    @TrashTheory  3 роки тому +23

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  • @jimlemin8523
    @jimlemin8523 3 роки тому +66

    "Almonds sexuality was kept under wraps."
    Okay, I'm having dinner, and I just snorted Bolognese sauce out of my nose.

    • @johndaarteest
      @johndaarteest 3 місяці тому +5

      They're going to need an awful lot of wrapping to do that 😆

    • @MatthewMakesAU
      @MatthewMakesAU 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@johndaarteest under wraps is clearly slang for "at toga parties"

    • @davedennison7386
      @davedennison7386 5 днів тому

      Have you never heard the "rumour", going around at the height of their fame??...its fxxking ridiculous and I've heard it repeated many times over the years but it just about sums up the stupidity of the general public..

  • @metocvideo
    @metocvideo 3 роки тому +112

    Many years after the single had almost faded away, I went to an outdoor concert in London, by Jools Holland and his big band. The park was packed out and everyone was having a great time, then Jools “mystery guest” came on. It was Mark Almond, who did 3 songs, the last of which was “Tainted Love”. To say it stopped the show was an understatement, with thousands of 30-somethings singing along and suddenly getting up and dancing. You could see that Mark was pleased, and perhaps a bit teary, over the thunderous applause from the audience, and even the orchestra got up to applaud as well.

    • @jeshkam
      @jeshkam 2 роки тому +2

      Do you remember what year exactly it was? In the 1990s? Earlier?

    • @pe5912
      @pe5912 3 місяці тому +2

      Marc is mates with Jools holland and has worked with him on his tours as a guest singer a number of times over the years. He's going out on tour with him later in 2024. He's also recorded two or three songs on various Jools Holland albums. I think it helps Marc reach a different audience to his own and people who wouldn't ordinarily buy tickets to one of his shows get to see and hear how great a performer and singer he is.

  • @68404
    @68404 3 роки тому +5

    Mark Almond's autobiography is well worth a read. He is surprisingly erudite.

  • @anthonyr.1568
    @anthonyr.1568 Рік тому +37

    I'm surprised that Gloria Jones' version didn't chart. It's such a masterpiece, it gets me hype everytime I hear it! Probably her rough kind of voice didn't fit the canon of that time.

    • @Vibeagain
      @Vibeagain 4 місяці тому

      No this is one of those examples when the Remake exceeded the original

    • @anthonyr.1568
      @anthonyr.1568 4 місяці тому +2

      @@Vibeagain No, it did not.

    • @Vibeagain
      @Vibeagain 4 місяці тому

      @anthonyr.1568 outstriped it entirely. We've seen this a few times. The hit, "will always love you," etcetera. That's why you saw the superior one shoot up into global culture

  • @theneonchimpchannel9095
    @theneonchimpchannel9095 3 роки тому +149

    Gloria Jones was driving the car the night Marc Bolan died. She later received the harshest review I've ever read, "she sings like she drives". She actually had a decent voice, but I guess whoever wrote that review didn't like her.

    • @ollyf5088
      @ollyf5088 3 роки тому +20

      It's ironic that he's the reason Marc Almond spells his name like that too

    • @MothraBlues
      @MothraBlues 3 роки тому +13

      Holy hell that's nasty. Do you recall who wrote that, or which Gloria Jones recording it was for? Just idly curious. Cheers 👍

    • @NickyM_0
      @NickyM_0 3 роки тому +4

      He stole Gloria Jone's 'Tainted Love'. Didn't ask her permission, gave her no recognition and no money for her creativity that gave him a whole career. He is known for her record.

    • @anafana9320
      @anafana9320 3 роки тому

      @@ollyf5088 Rachel bolan of Skid Row named himself after him too

    • @ThreadBomb
      @ThreadBomb 3 роки тому +14

      @@NickyM_0 She didn't write the song.

  • @HeavenlyEchoVirus
    @HeavenlyEchoVirus 3 роки тому +79

    19:20 I want a playlist all of songs which are staples at both wedding receptions and goth clubs.

    • @5d512
      @5d512 3 роки тому +9

      Thank you. I heard "golf clubs" and didn't get it.

    • @evapalma8078
      @evapalma8078 3 роки тому +8

      I want a playlist of songs which are staples at both weddings and golf clubs

    • @Morphstock
      @Morphstock 3 роки тому +1

      We had Temple Of Love at our wedding reception. I wouldn't say it's a staple though

    • @noelleelizabeth9991
      @noelleelizabeth9991 3 роки тому +1

      Who tf thinks playing a song called "Tainted Love" at a wedding reception is a good idea 😂

    • @manhuawang11
      @manhuawang11 2 роки тому +1

      @@5d512 I'm down for that playlist

  • @jesussierra2113
    @jesussierra2113 3 роки тому +207

    We need a Talk Talk It's My Life episode please

    • @MVBriscoVolante
      @MVBriscoVolante 3 роки тому +17

      Good lord, yes. I’m actually surprised there isn’t a Mark Hollis movie given his life in music

    • @TonyBontana
      @TonyBontana 3 роки тому +6

      Yes!!!

    • @scottfree2248
      @scottfree2248 3 роки тому +8

      Life's what you make it....

    • @kool_thing
      @kool_thing 3 роки тому +8

      Yes! Or their musical transformation and the birth of post-rock.

    • @immortal2u
      @immortal2u 3 роки тому +9

      Absolutely. I was gutted, when I heard he’d passed. Spirit of Eden is still one of my top five albums.

  • @funkmasterdub
    @funkmasterdub 2 роки тому +6

    My Dad was a Drayman in Leeds delivering beer to pubs and clubs and he met Mark Almond who was living at a club in Leeds (The Gallery i think but i could be wrong) and he said that he was a really nice guy, very polite and always gave them a free drink!

  • @richarddorazi8565
    @richarddorazi8565 3 роки тому +212

    You forgot to mention "Tainted Love's" biggest use in Rihanna's first American #1 "SOS" which is built entirely on Soft Cell's cover

    • @comradetomtuttle
      @comradetomtuttle 3 роки тому +11

      Good point. That is a brilliant sample.

    • @djgaryowens
      @djgaryowens 3 роки тому +11

      Not a single original idea have these artists, everything is done by sampling, copying, and stealing from other artists.

    • @ericmuir3356
      @ericmuir3356 3 роки тому +64

      @@djgaryowens isn't that exactly what soft cell did with tainted love?

    • @djgaryowens
      @djgaryowens 3 роки тому +9

      @@ericmuir3356 Yeah, but they did their own stuff too. All the likes of Rihanna do is come along and warble a few lines into a computer and the producers fix the rest. Utterly talentless garbage.

    • @johnIZaUWL
      @johnIZaUWL 3 роки тому +1

      That’s one annoying song lol

  • @MonkeyspankO
    @MonkeyspankO 3 роки тому +106

    We're still extending the influence of "synth pop" today. Its alive and well as an art form. Truly amazing what people achieved in a few short years with a brand new technology in the 70s and 80s. So many iconic bands and timeless tracks

  • @FHL-Devils
    @FHL-Devils 3 роки тому +111

    14:55 - Ummm... Those record companies must be in some pretty serious denial if they thought he would pass as straight.

    • @pamelaquattrochi5838
      @pamelaquattrochi5838 3 роки тому +4

      This was going to be my comment.

    • @xamyx2205
      @xamyx2205 3 роки тому +11

      It was a bit different back then, with alot of androgyny... Prince, Martin Gore...

    • @donweatherwax9318
      @donweatherwax9318 3 роки тому +9

      Lol, a different time . . . In the Seventies and Eighties you could be a Queen camp-follower, yet for all you knew or cared, Freddie Mercury was the butchest MF alive. It was the music that mattered.
      I became a fan of Yaz in the Eighties (you Brits call them Yazoo) listening to my sisters down the hall playing _You_ _and_ _Me_ _Both_ over and over again. I knew nothing; didn't follow music; didn't even know what group it was; never heard of Vince Clarke; thought Alison Moyet's vocal was a breathy guy with an incredibly effeminate voice. (Seriously.) Judging solely from "his" lyrics, I decided this breathy MF had to be gay. And after another couple of run-throughs, I decided: these "gays" can really do music! SMH . . . One may discover the truth even following a crooked path.

    • @rhodayackez9570
      @rhodayackez9570 3 роки тому +1

      Exactly my thoughts. Very obviously effeminate.

    • @sharksport01
      @sharksport01 3 роки тому

      Freddie was butch??!??

  • @thesixfootsixexperience8781
    @thesixfootsixexperience8781 3 роки тому +43

    Say Hello, Wave Goodbye is one of my favorite songs from this decade. That synth is so magnetic

  • @PrinceLX
    @PrinceLX 3 роки тому +50

    Trent Reznor is also a HUGE fan. There’s a bootleg of NIN covering ‘Sex Dwarf’ and he’s been quoted as saying he wished he’d been in the band.

  • @mcolville
    @mcolville 3 роки тому +145

    His solo album, "The Stars We Are" is pretty brilliant. He could have had whatever career he wanted.

    • @edwardautrey3671
      @edwardautrey3671 3 роки тому +12

      Tears run rings is timeless.

    • @apathyinmotion
      @apathyinmotion 3 роки тому +12

      Also his album Tenement Symphony is brilliant as well.

    • @xamyx2205
      @xamyx2205 3 роки тому +15

      He's still active, and has released some 20 or so albums since "The Stars We Are"... His career stalled basically due to his loyalty to a bad manager... I last saw him live in October 2019, and he can still captivate an audience, and his energy level is probably higher than it was in 1989, when I first saw him live...

    • @novelty4
      @novelty4 3 роки тому +3

      One of the greatest albums EVER.

    • @necronsplayer
      @necronsplayer 3 роки тому +2

      Yo, Colville's here :U

  • @jjfaceplant
    @jjfaceplant 3 роки тому +49

    Shoutout to that inevitable but brilliantly executed dad joke at 19:30

    • @Ak0tnik
      @Ak0tnik 3 роки тому

      It was amazing

  • @sonnysumo8172
    @sonnysumo8172 3 роки тому +69

    Man I hope you cover Throbbing Gristle on this show at some point. In addition to being industrial music pioneers, they’ve had a wild band history that branches off into separate projects and then reconvenes years later.

    • @maxmatson1578
      @maxmatson1578 3 роки тому +6

      I feel you on that. I would definitely love to have them cover them. But even more so coil!

    • @astroboirap
      @astroboirap 3 роки тому +1

      thy suck

    • @nohozana
      @nohozana 2 роки тому +3

      @@astroboirap To be fair, industrial music wouldn't be what it is without their vision, but I kinda agree their ''music'' isn't that good.

    • @ashleyhathaway8548
      @ashleyhathaway8548 2 роки тому +3

      I love sticking "Hamburger Lady" in the middle of random playlists just to traumatize the unsuspecting.

  • @Chris_34
    @Chris_34 3 роки тому +11

    Love Soft Cell❤️. Say Hello, Wave Goodbye is an absolute classic.

  • @denisegore1884
    @denisegore1884 3 роки тому +23

    Almost 40 years ago. Never mind love, where did our time go?

  • @PJinDowntownLA
    @PJinDowntownLA 3 роки тому +17

    In 1990, I mistakenly bought Marc Almond's "Enchanted", thinking it had the single "Tears Run Rings". It didn't, but the purchase was a happy accident - that CD was sooooo good.

  • @ego3162
    @ego3162 3 роки тому +56

    this is not the video I deserved but definitely the video I needed

  • @kohhna
    @kohhna 3 роки тому +40

    The 11 inch of this was unreal too, pure proto Techno.

    • @johncooper7663
      @johncooper7663 3 роки тому +1

      Lol, i think that I still have it in my basement. Wore that thing out.

  • @rhan7466
    @rhan7466 2 роки тому +11

    Always assumed Tainted Love was an original. It sounds so of the time. Great song. Great insight into its creation.

  • @morgellon9449
    @morgellon9449 3 роки тому +16

    Marc Almond appeared on two Psychic TV tracks from 1982's Force the Hand of Chance, and was good friends with Peter Christopherson and Jhon Balance of Coil, and appeared on various Coil tracks. They all shared similar interests, across the board.
    Christopherson was also 1/4 of Throbbing Gristle, who influenced pretty much everybody in the electronic music scene in the early 80's. He directed an alternate version of Soft Cell's Tainted Love video. He also directed many other more popular music videos, such as Erasure's A Little Respect, Chains of Love and Stop!, Yes' Owner of a Lonely Heart, and Van Halen's Can't Stop Lovin' You. He appears as a prisoner in the Marcy Playground video It's Saturday, which he also directed.

    • @mossadon
      @mossadon 3 роки тому +4

      Knowledge ! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  • @sharpieman2035
    @sharpieman2035 3 роки тому +25

    Coil definitely deserves their own video at some point, they have so much great stuff!

  • @capnjames
    @capnjames 3 роки тому +31

    The idea of mixing genres in his head is always what innovative artists in history have done. Very inspiring.

  • @piotrd7355
    @piotrd7355 2 роки тому +7

    Marc continued to work with Coil. He sings on their albums in the songs: "Titan Arch", "The Dark Age Of Love", "Who by Fire" (a cover of a Leonard Cohen song) and plays guitar on "Restless Day". In addition, he and Dave Ball have collaborated with various other industrial and post-industrial artists, including Pychic TV, Jim Thirwell, Current 93, Scanner, and X-TG.

  • @laurabarss3543
    @laurabarss3543 3 роки тому +17

    They’re so original and different, real classic! They started something and Marc is an icon for a reason in many ways, they’re both naturals at what they do I mean Marc is a poetic genius, he can tell a story to a T that u can visualise it, feel that situation and still make it a song and Dave’s tunes are always so unique and hold/give off the exact vibe the lyrics are about that makes u feel their music. Also I don’t know who they were kidding trying to perceive Marc as anything but himself and a gay man and so what, he’s always been unapologetically himself and done what he wanted and that’s what makes his work and him so great and unique. They’re both very interesting and I’d definitely say trailblazers and spoke to a lot of people and for bands after them who seemed to be inspired to have a phase that resembled a lot of what soft cell were critiqued for lol. True greats and definitely a huge main part of the early 80’s synth movement, they started the first soulful singer with synth electronic sound anyway! thanks for the vid! :)

  • @rainyfristoe7682
    @rainyfristoe7682 3 роки тому +35

    Soft Cell is my favorite band and very underrated. My soul wept tears of joys seeing this review!

    • @Chief_Brody
      @Chief_Brody 9 місяців тому

      No, they were not underated. They were a very average synth pop group.

  • @alfredrutz9798
    @alfredrutz9798 3 роки тому +10

    His solo work was way above Soft Cell. In particular his album dedicated to 'Jacques' Brel, as well as 'Enchanted', 'Absinthe' & 'Mother fist & her 5 daughters'.
    Artistically, Marc Almond, is one of Britain's brightest ⭐ of Pop Music history!!!

  • @creepmike77
    @creepmike77 3 роки тому +88

    Sex Dwarf is such a great song.

    • @alexcncmacsalcar7324
      @alexcncmacsalcar7324 3 роки тому +7

      Totally. Tainted love is nice but Sex Dwarf is electrifying!!

    • @mikenoface
      @mikenoface 3 роки тому +6

      For whatever reason.. the lead synth line from Sex Dwarf will pop in my head when I'm doing chores or something. No clue why.

    • @miguelmartinespejoramirez3311
      @miguelmartinespejoramirez3311 3 роки тому +2

      When I felt dirty and driving my car I used to to play that song .... even in my mind..... don more than three decades....

    • @benw9949
      @benw9949 2 роки тому +2

      Now I'm very curious. I don't think I've heard that one. I'm not sure what of Soft Cell I have heard besides Tainted Love, so I'll have to look.

    • @ceebee491
      @ceebee491 2 роки тому +2

      I have to say Bedsitter/say hello...

  • @felixhenson9926
    @felixhenson9926 2 роки тому +11

    Soft Cell are criminally underrated.

  • @Petit784
    @Petit784 3 роки тому +116

    If you covering British electronic music, the "idm" scene of the 90s (aphex twin, squarepusher) would be a good place to go.

    • @Evans-jl4qe
      @Evans-jl4qe 3 роки тому +4

      Yes!!

    • @FallenOne3
      @FallenOne3 3 роки тому +8

      Aphex Twin would be nice

    • @windman808
      @windman808 3 роки тому +17

      A new British Canon on 808 state - Pacific State (Or Pacific 707) would be epic

    • @nellsun2521
      @nellsun2521 3 роки тому +5

      No one called it "IDM" in the nineties though. That's just a lazy term for people who can't tell the difference between Jungle; Drum & Bass; Drill & Bass; Breakcore; 2-Step; etc

    • @lloydholland5585
      @lloydholland5585 3 роки тому +11

      @@nellsun2521 I think calling IDM a lazy term is unfair. As with artists like Aphex Twin, Autechre, Squarepusher, Boards of Canada I wouldn't put them singularly into any of those categories, instead they borrow elements from many places. Although calling it "intelligent" sounds pretentious i think it captures the freedom and creativeness of the genre without sticking to a specific style.

  • @alfiewhitnell1387
    @alfiewhitnell1387 3 роки тому +17

    Thank you for doing a video about Soft Cell! A very important band for me!

  • @EM-ol6rb
    @EM-ol6rb 3 роки тому +51

    “Marc Almond a one hit wonder”
    *Europe has entered the chat*

    • @xamyx2205
      @xamyx2205 3 роки тому +10

      I'm American, and even I know better...

    • @keicbell
      @keicbell 3 роки тому +1

      Indeed!

  • @comeonman5300
    @comeonman5300 3 роки тому +10

    Great video. I'm glad you mentioned the issue of putting "Where Did Our Love Go" on the b side at 12.28. They could have put any throwaway self penned track on there. 2 million singles sold in the US would have made them a fortune.

    • @cdpetee
      @cdpetee Рік тому +2

      The B-side of "Tainted Love" in America was "Memorabilia", an Almond/Ball original, so they made out ok in the end.

  • @NianioNostimos
    @NianioNostimos 3 роки тому +16

    I remember being in junior high around around 83.
    A friend gave
    me the cassette Non Stop Erotic Cabaret. I loved the sleazy ness of the album. Sex Dwarf was hilarious.
    The dance/synth vibe was a welcomed break from the angry/fast noise of punk I was use to with The Dead Kennedy’s and Black Flag.
    I remember hearing It’s A Mugs Game around that time too and became a permanent fan of Soft Cell.
    Years later in my high school record collecting phase, I found a US print single for Mugs Game and lost my mind when I noticed it was made in Torrance, CA, my home town!

  • @untitled1464
    @untitled1464 3 роки тому +18

    i would like to express my enthusiasm at the UA-cam Algorithm once again bringing me to this lovely video. This is one of my favourite songs and one of the first songs I ever listened to. In kindergarten circa 2002 my class had to choreograph a dance number to this song and my mother-a teenager of the 80s-was super excited to help me out. This was my introduction to 80s music and my mother's youth culture.

  • @DiversityBat
    @DiversityBat Рік тому +2

    Marc Almond is so cute and adorable! Why do i love Soft Cell? - Art, elegance, paranoia, styling and sofistification... With decadence, hedonism, synth and dark side. That´s why! 🖤🖤🖤

  • @laukei1
    @laukei1 3 роки тому +6

    beautiful video
    the Coil version is soul crushing. Coil is probably the most enduring, the deepest band of my teen years. I can't seem to stop hearing new things in their tracks.

  • @antipatsy
    @antipatsy 3 роки тому +42

    You would think after almost 40 years of this song I would be tired of it, and yet

    • @cincocats320
      @cincocats320 3 роки тому +3

      To my grave this will be one of the top songs of my life. Never gets old.

  • @138abob
    @138abob 2 роки тому +8

    One of the best and most underrated band’s. I absolutely adore Soft Cell!

    • @Chief_Brody
      @Chief_Brody 9 місяців тому

      Ahhh the old ubiquitous "underrated" comment on UA-cam. You're so original. Prat

    • @138abob
      @138abob 9 місяців тому +2

      @@Chief_Brody I bet you felt really good about yourself when you left your little comment. I really love the cute way you decided to call me an idiot. Super cool bro. Ya know I really don't know what I was thinking when I called an actual underrated band... Underrated! I deserve your scorn obviously. You must be a really good person and not a total piece of shit at all. Go you "Chief Brody"!

  • @keithlarsen7557
    @keithlarsen7557 3 роки тому +332

    "Lest his fanbase find out he was gay"... People in the 80's were a special kind of dense.

    • @seanharris2320
      @seanharris2320 3 роки тому +30

      Ummmm, I'm pretty sure that all it took was one listen or look and I'm pretty sure we knew. We didn't care, that song was universal. I was 13 or 14. I was shocked when TT said it was 81/82, because I remember thinking I was so "old" because I thought I could relate to the song. Haha. I have the 12" to this very day. The 12" version was loved by most everyone I knew: my gay friends, my mom because of the "Where Did Our Love Go", my straight friend because it sounded so good on the good car stereos that my friends were investing in at that time. We had teen clubs here, and it must have played for 2 years in those places. This song made me dig into my Dad's crates a little bit.
      Marc Almond's solo was one of the first CD that i ever bought.

    • @tvtitlechampion3238
      @tvtitlechampion3238 3 роки тому +21

      To be fair, the cliche identifying a gay male was limited to the lisping, limp-wristed femme boy back then. We have a bit more of a nuanced understanding now. Hell, Ellen coming out in the 90's was major in softening the stereotypes.

    • @xamyx2205
      @xamyx2205 3 роки тому +24

      There were alot of androgynous men back then, even effeminate, that weren't gay... Martin Gore, Prince, David Bowie...

    • @rhodayackez9570
      @rhodayackez9570 3 роки тому +10

      @@xamyx2205 the men you state were not effeminate. Almond was an obvious effeminate guy. There's a huge difference even though these men were thought to be androgynous

    • @paul6925
      @paul6925 3 роки тому +3

      I laughed out loud at that part. That kinda of thing wasn’t discussed as much back then. I didn’t even know what it meant until I was about 12 or 13

  • @qqw743
    @qqw743 8 місяців тому +2

    I guess I'm the only one who remembers or like "It's a Mug's Game." Great song, real departure in terms of the jazzy brass.

  • @ChrisGirard
    @ChrisGirard 3 роки тому +5

    3:01 Not only was Soft Cell low on the bill but their first show was at like 1pm in bright daylight playing to a mostly empty festival.

    • @liammcnicholas918
      @liammcnicholas918 3 роки тому

      That's usually when up and coming bands perform at festivals though

  • @Benesat
    @Benesat 3 роки тому +11

    Ohhhhh don’t forget the crazy spoken word album Marc Almond did with COIL. Was sorta the thing that made me reconsider Soft Cell.

    • @evapalma8078
      @evapalma8078 3 роки тому +6

      And Marc’s project with Lydia Lunch, Nick Cave and JG Thirlwell, the Immaculate Conceptions

  • @mrrodriguezHLP
    @mrrodriguezHLP 3 роки тому +5

    This is what I love most about this channel, something easily passed over as a one-hit-wonder requires context: influences, inception, and follow-ups. This all makes for an amazing story and a better understanding of how music is where it's at.

  • @Aramanth
    @Aramanth 2 роки тому +3

    *LOVE* Marc Almond, a wonderful prolific artist!
    *LOVE* "Memorabilia", but most touching "Youth".
    This was a great presentation of Soft Cell, thanks!

  • @quincyrich5817
    @quincyrich5817 3 роки тому +20

    I think it would be interesting to see a video about Vince Clarke, Yazoo and "Only You".
    Thanks for the fantastic vids and keep up the good work!

  • @denisediaz6218
    @denisediaz6218 3 роки тому +13

    Bedsitter is actually my favorite softcell song. I found out this year that this version of tainted love is by them lol.

  • @RebirthRadio2023
    @RebirthRadio2023 3 роки тому +45

    You missed out Sparks, the bnenchmark for all synth duos. But yeah, good documentary. Cheers!

    • @Dr.Quarex
      @Dr.Quarex 3 роки тому +7

      Glad someone else said it; ever since I realized just how long they have been around I felt embarrassed that I did not realize their influence on my beloved "charismatic pop vocalist and brooding synth wizard" genre

    • @Dr.Quarex
      @Dr.Quarex 3 роки тому +3

      Also Yello predates Soft Cell, and could have even been an influence, but admittedly Deiter Meier's vocals are generally not described as too terribly traditional pop (some exceptions like "Lost Again" and "Vicious Games" notwithstanding, but those came later)

    • @richardordonez8331
      @richardordonez8331 3 роки тому

      Oh man that dance that guy did and his look!

    • @dickz
      @dickz 3 роки тому +4

      they always miss out sparks!!

    • @NewGrooveVinylClub
      @NewGrooveVinylClub 3 роки тому +2

      So pretty on brand for Sparks

  • @thereturnwoo
    @thereturnwoo 3 роки тому +3

    My band cover bedsitter. It's become a mainstay and we play it at every show. I love it! We're going to record it and release it as a single this year.

  • @binxboi7156
    @binxboi7156 3 роки тому +84

    NIN also covered “Sex Dwarf” at early shows

    • @charly6066
      @charly6066 3 роки тому +5

      are there any videos? thats my favourite track off NSEC

    • @ronroidz2925
      @ronroidz2925 3 роки тому +3

      @@charly6066 I think you can find videos of it on youtube, but it's only in bad quality because it's from 88 when NIN wasn't known yet. So there were no professional recordings, just self filmed stuff. But there is also a clip of Trent and the others working on the cover of sex dwarf during 95 or 96 in the studio (it's from the Closure VHS/DVD). But sadly no full studio version was ever released.

  • @crouchingotter
    @crouchingotter 3 роки тому +5

    Every time you release one of these I gain an appreciation for a band or artist that I didn’t have before watching.

  • @ReneMenezes
    @ReneMenezes 3 роки тому +5

    Thank you for the amazing documentary !!! I first met the song in 1982 by an international hit parade compilation in Brazil. I was 8 yo. Loved it since !!

  • @dambrooks7578
    @dambrooks7578 3 роки тому +11

    This band and their version of Tainted Love have had so much impact on my life, thank you for this 😍❤😍

  • @johnnybravo5726
    @johnnybravo5726 3 роки тому +22

    14:58 yeah god forbid people find out

    • @imansfield
      @imansfield 3 роки тому

      Well knock me down with a feather!

  • @evapalma8078
    @evapalma8078 3 роки тому +4

    The Some Bizarre album also has a hidden gem track from a band called Jell, with a chill, jazzy song called I Dare Say It Will Hurt A Little. Reminds me of Massive Attack

  • @0therun1t21
    @0therun1t21 3 роки тому +3

    Every single song on Non-Stop is great, there's no filler! I still play Memorabilia all the time, I love the NIN version too. Sex Dwarf is in all my friend's collections, it still gets played at clubs over here.

  • @jari7666
    @jari7666 3 роки тому +24

    Good video. However, suggesting Ultravox and Human League had emotionless vocals was jarring to say the least. That is, to put it mildly, inaccurate. Thanks again for an interesting video.

    • @synthzz9178
      @synthzz9178 3 роки тому +3

      Far from being emotionless i agree!! But it was a peculiar way of singing, I've read it described also as "detached". For SC you hear it in early masterpieces like Metro Mrx and all those mind-blowing demos and early tracks that you find on The Bedsit Tapes and Demo non stop. Other examples of detached / unemotional are The Future or early Human League ( Being Boiled fast version), J. Foxx's Metamatic and many others.

    • @kb9072
      @kb9072 2 роки тому +1

      Gary Newman yes. The Human League and Ultravox definitely no.

    • @xenuno
      @xenuno 2 роки тому

      ​@@kb9072 Emotionless? Gary Numan? So what? True or not depends on whom you ask. It's clear that neither you nor this vidiot should be asked. Gary had his style and it carried over to the band. Soft Cell had 1 outstanding track. Gary Numan has a couple dozen at least. To hear the video say that crap bout made me want to stop and quit right there.

    • @kb9072
      @kb9072 2 роки тому

      @@xenuno
      It was many years ago so my memory of him isn't fresh. I do remember he had a style where he didn't display much emotion. Mostly expressionless. This isn't a criticism just thought that's the way he was or I remember him. Terry Hall (The Specials/Fun Boy Three) had a similar style. The video suggested The Human League and Ultravox was like this also but I'd have to disagree somewhat.

    • @iliketrains3495
      @iliketrains3495 Рік тому

      I've only heard Vienna and even from that song I could tell that statement was untrue lol

  • @RandomEye1131
    @RandomEye1131 3 роки тому +7

    My all time favorite pop song!
    I never knew anything about Soft Cell and I freaking love the story behind these guys. Excellent video.

  • @simonmason8582
    @simonmason8582 3 роки тому +5

    Kraftwerk's "The Model" came out in 1978, not 1982.

    • @Morphstock
      @Morphstock 3 роки тому +1

      It was a hit in 1982 though once synth pop had it's commercial breakthrough in the UK

    • @simonmason8582
      @simonmason8582 3 роки тому

      @@Morphstock It was a hit in 1978 in Europe and the US Dance charts.

  • @JennWanderer
    @JennWanderer 3 роки тому +6

    I am so happy to see this, I've been such a big fan for almost 20 years, I'm going to go watch a bunch of their videos for the millionth time in my life

  • @foto21
    @foto21 Рік тому +3

    Tainted Love is one of those songs that's hidden at a faster pace, and really comes out slowed down. Such a brilliant cover but whoever wrote that song was a genius.
    OMG. You just reacquainted me with Sex Dwarf. I was a DJ in a radio station and I think I recorded that song onto a mix tape and had totally forgotten it. It's prob my second favorite track of theirs.

  • @FluxyMiniscus
    @FluxyMiniscus 2 роки тому +3

    I love Marc and the Mambas and Soft Cell! I still have a bunch of their obscure vinyl, but my Mambas cassette wore out with overplay. I was delighted to find the music on UA-cam…it had been decades since I heard my favorite tracks, but they still hold up over time.
    other bands that I found that came close to scratching my dark electronic itch was the Legendary Pink Dots and Gelatinous Citizen to name a couple stand outs.
    Thanks for these videos, great to hear the history behind my old obsessions

  • @alisterfolson
    @alisterfolson 3 роки тому +8

    That Coil video was/is epic
    Also whomever wrote Tainted Love can now put their Great Grandchildren through college.

  • @mikehydropneumatic2583
    @mikehydropneumatic2583 3 роки тому +7

    I love Tainted Love and Torch, Soft Cell is epic amd very influential.
    Next maybe Anne Clark?

    • @kohhna
      @kohhna 3 роки тому +1

      I would love to see that personally, thats one of my favourite songs, but this channel tends to do stuff that would be at least a bit better known, like wuld have at least charted. Anne Clarke was very mch underground, brilliant though she was.
      Still the man could be persuaded, he has a patreon. If you want that sort of chat with him you should join.

    • @nothingshouldbewithouteffort
      @nothingshouldbewithouteffort 3 роки тому

      OMG, excellent mention!
      Resounding YES to Anne Clark.

  • @sebastiangeorge7018
    @sebastiangeorge7018 3 роки тому +8

    18:20 Sparks with the No1 in Haven album really started that synth & soulful singer blueprint

  • @alib.5237
    @alib.5237 3 роки тому +7

    YES!!!! thank you 💜 this is the video I needed hahahah soft cell is such an awesome and unfortanetely underrated duo

  • @ricardoediza2690
    @ricardoediza2690 3 роки тому +18

    Only a matter of time till we reach “tubthumping“

  • @jasoncollins1702
    @jasoncollins1702 3 роки тому +2

    Appreciate the well-researched, considered and objective commentary. Nice to hear the B-side misjudgment mentioned; I think this is something many fans don't realise. Always use an original B-side! If Soft Cell didn't want to be seen as pop stars, they should've avoided Smash Hits and the like.

  • @paul6925
    @paul6925 3 роки тому +2

    I first got into music around the time this came out. I was 9 years old! Loved it and the sound has influenced my taste ever since

  • @pheresy1367
    @pheresy1367 2 роки тому +3

    Growing up in New York in the 60s, Tainted Love got plenty of airplay, maybe not as obscure as you think. I guess it depends on where you lived. When Soft Cell released its version, most people my age knew it was a cover, but the young 'uns didn't.

  • @Ergogeorge
    @Ergogeorge 3 роки тому +1

    Love the coil addition, so insightful

  • @morningstar1969
    @morningstar1969 2 роки тому +1

    This site is THE most informed on rock history. Extremely accurate analysis and great taste. My favourite page on here

    • @underscore4505
      @underscore4505 2 роки тому

      Yep. Super underrated and very well researched

  • @theant2651
    @theant2651 3 роки тому

    My absolute favourite series on yt...amazing work

  • @nicholasromig5506
    @nicholasromig5506 3 роки тому +5

    there are so many cool goth-adjacent synthpop duos these days. Korine, Boy Harsher, Body Of Light. and you gotta figure they owe a ton to Soft Cell and The Pet Shop Boys

    • @LucasLima-ou3sz
      @LucasLima-ou3sz 3 роки тому

      Boy Harsher is one of the best working this vibe

  • @SearchfortheMeaning
    @SearchfortheMeaning 3 роки тому +1

    Bowie called it "the European cannon" in Station to Station. My favorite song btw and a true gem.

  • @conorquinn6405
    @conorquinn6405 3 роки тому

    Hey! I’m a huge fan. The way you gather info and create such linear focused content is so interesting and well done. I’d love to see a video on how Sonic Youth made a huge impact/ influenced the alt rock movement of the 90’s or anything Sonic related tbh. Thank you for creating such consistent content!

  • @68Warpigs
    @68Warpigs 3 роки тому +7

    Thanks for another great episode, Marc Almond is actually my favourite male vocalist ever and Non-Stop Erotic Cabaret is never far from my palylist.

  • @malloryemclaren
    @malloryemclaren 3 роки тому +1

    I love the extended version's organ solo. It is like a musical narrative of a jilted vampire, frantic with heartbreak, about to get their revenge.

  • @camperp195
    @camperp195 3 роки тому +1

    Did a job for marc almond back in 2001 installing digital when i was on BT ,live dby tower bridge at the time,strange guy,his ground floor was full of those troll dolls of all sizes,and the wall by the spiral staircase was full of nude paintings of him,he is so small!

  • @_Volt_Ron_
    @_Volt_Ron_ 3 роки тому

    Enjoyable and educational. I remember when this song first came out. I was in high school. What a time! Thank you.

  • @hawksandsparrows
    @hawksandsparrows 3 роки тому

    very grateful for your work and this output !!!

  • @Mr_Spliffy
    @Mr_Spliffy 3 роки тому +2

    Got me into a lifetime of electronic dance music. Sheer excellence. Thankyou

  • @nicoleshan6410
    @nicoleshan6410 3 роки тому +1

    This is the video I waited for... ❤️ THANK YOU!!!

  • @prokesuk
    @prokesuk 3 роки тому +7

    The way they looked and their basic setup (guy behind a keyboard and a singer) they could easily be mistaken for Suicide, who predated them.

  • @mossadon
    @mossadon 3 роки тому +1

    You missed the Vicious Pink connection. (Or Vicious Pink Phenomena as they were then known).
    They are listed on the Non Stop... album as backing singers and Dave wrote some parts at Brian & Josies (VP) house. Some of the video used here is from the legendary Warehouse club in Leeds, where Brian used to DJ. Brian & Josie went on to release their own material, later cutting Phenomena from the name and having hits of their own. They were with the boys and Stevo in New York and were in fact the people who brought MDMA back to the UK and to the attention of underground clubs of the time, before raves.... Speaking of rave connections... Brian/ Vicious Pink was one of the 1st to make use of the Roland303 in a club record and parts of Vicious Pinks Ccccan't You See was later sampled by another Leeds fella and next generation Warehouse attendee that helped give birth to the Bass & Bleep sound and helping launch Warp Records, Nightmares On Wax.
    You also managed not to mention that Dave had his own success later in the Techno/ Rave scene as The Grid.....everyone always talks about/mention what else Marc did but never Dave, who is more directly involved in the birth of acid house with his direct connections to the...insights into MDMA and early Acid House group M.E.S.H and then later Techno.
    ....The more you know....
    Vicious Pink. Ccccan't You See. 1984.
    ua-cam.com/video/bh6LpM2Hw2I/v-deo.html
    Sampled in Nightmares on Wax "I'm for real" on the Aftermath 12" which also samples Newcleus Jam on It. 1990.
    ua-cam.com/video/BLV22eGiqCc/v-deo.html
    Dave Ball / The Grid. gentle Rave classic Floatation. 1990. (If you like The Orb, this is for you)
    ua-cam.com/video/uHPlZSXI060/v-deo.html
    Dave with Grid partner Richard Norris and Acid House legend Jackmaster Tab as M.E.S.H. 1988.
    ua-cam.com/video/AK3dSxRqGBg/v-deo.html

  • @stejer211
    @stejer211 3 роки тому +1

    Getting educated while remembering great music, I effing love this channel!

  • @Arfurido
    @Arfurido 2 роки тому +1

    Okay so, new to this channel and been binge watching everything bc one absolutely must!! But as you mentioned Erasure, I need to add a plus to a video to erasure because as an 8 year old Norwegian kid who just got access to MTV in the late 80's, there were a lot of stuff to dig into (Neneh Cherry, U2, Soft Cell - tbh this song I loved for a trillion decades and I was so happy when I saw there was a video about it) but somehow Erasure always fascinated me because they seemed so... odd?? But their sound were like... 80's optimism with some weird nu 90's sound. idk I just always liked it. Just wanted to say. Love LOVE your videos!!

  • @MichaelMorrisseyNYC
    @MichaelMorrisseyNYC 3 роки тому +26

    Please do one on "Warm Leatherette!"

    • @aeschafer1
      @aeschafer1 3 роки тому +2

      I'd really like to see a detailed dive into Gary Numan's Pleasure Principle. That record -- much like Warm Leatherette -- was so far ahead of its time it still feels futuristic -- or at least perfectly contemporary -- forty years later.

  • @bugradio
    @bugradio 3 роки тому

    I think this is the first video I've seen from this channel. This was excellent. I subscribed immediately. Thanks!!

  • @webbedhand
    @webbedhand 2 роки тому +1

    It is fascinating the way people will talk such huge circles around the S-word and the M-word (Sparks/Moroder) when dealing with the evolution of synth pop. It's just way cooler to say you got it from Numan or Kraftwerk, when you really bought your first synth after seeing Sparks on TOTP.

  • @casucasueq4479
    @casucasueq4479 3 роки тому +19

    As a naive American I always assumed two things incorrectly. First, I didnt know Soft Cell covered this song. Second, because I thought Soft Cell wrote the song and because the lead singer sounded and looked so feminine I thought Tainted Love was a song about AIDS. Amazing how each artists version can give off such different feelings from the same song.

    • @nicoi-lm9ty
      @nicoi-lm9ty 11 місяців тому +1

      I'm sorry but that's actually so funny

  • @user-hq1fj3zo4d
    @user-hq1fj3zo4d 3 роки тому +1

    Coil's cover is very moving, indeed. Love it. Love both, of course.

  • @ericshippie1563
    @ericshippie1563 3 роки тому +6

    I have to say this could have been written exclusively for me.
    This narrator is so knowledgeable. I would if he is solely New British Canon or is there a team?
    When these come up on my feed I always watch. thank you sooooooo
    much.
    Soft Cell - Tainted Love is top ten soundtrack to my life. always has. Always will.
    the "radar sounds" will always be in my childhood head

  • @ergodoy7741
    @ergodoy7741 3 роки тому +3

    Marc Almond did a great, soulful cover of “Unchain My Heart” that beats Joe Cocker’s original and Has more honest feeling behind it than all his other campy melodramatic stuff. It was a B side that I haven’t been able to find again.

  • @criticalhit009
    @criticalhit009 3 роки тому +1

    This is an excellent video! I learned so much!

  • @jona.scholt4362
    @jona.scholt4362 3 роки тому +3

    Mirror F*cking! Hahaha, that passage cracked me up

  • @bubamara308
    @bubamara308 2 роки тому

    November 2021, your videos are just AMAZING!