Most fun is Marrying Anora, having an old god baby with Morrigan and romancing Leliana. Had a little thing with Zevran and Isabela in the Pearl. My warden banged EVERYONE.
My Cousland Warden married Anora, became bros with a traitorous general AND son in law (Loghain)and had Alistair killed. Oh, and I also had an old god baby. That's Game of Thrones level shit.
Loghain assumes that Anora's horrified look means that she isn't really interested in the Warden, ignoring the fact that she's literally just been asked how much sex she's getting BY HER DAD.
i was thinking the same thing when he said that. maybe she was just trying to take control back over her own mind so she didn't think of cranky old dad every time she and her husband are boning.
3:12 For the Warden who had decided to both marry Anora and spare Loghain, there're really should've been the "Consider this an engagement gift" option.
"If being a consort is not enough, then marry Alistair. Perhaps he will bend over more gracefully than I would" Ho HO! Shots !@#$ing fired! I might not like Anora on the grounds that she didn't really do squat to keep her Father in check, but damn if she doesn't have some of the best lines and political statements.
but the landsmeet decides,and you specifically say "i will rule beside her" or something like that there are even multiple mentions of the King HNM Warden in DA2 of the "King ruling Ferelden" even Anora can't claim the throne because she was a consort to Cailan.
It's a good option when you think about it. My Cousland was in the mindset that his chance for a a normal life was over when he joined the Wardens. He didn't seek out romance, because it would be wrong to fall in love when he was destined to live and die on the battlefield. He marries Anora to make sure she can't betray them easily, and so his best friend doesn't get stuck with a life he doesn't want. The Prince Consort also makes things better, as it allows him more freedom, should the Wardens need him.
Rathorage my Cousland wanted to be King because he felt that the world needs strong leaders and Alistair was better as a Warden. and you're actually King,not prince,i haven't married her to be her bootlicker,the landsmeet declared me King,even Anora declared it in public,so i'm King.
King Derner Cousland to the public you're king but behind close doors Anora pulls all the strigns and officially you're the prince which is why she calls you such from time to time in Awakening...
nope you're king official on the same level of Alistair/Anora joint rule. It's the landsmeet that decides if you were just "prince" you couldn't have been able to fight Anora over the throne (ending slide) The Warden is already much more powerful than she is. He comes from a ancient bloodline older than the Theirin,while the Mac Tir were elevated to nobility.Anora herself was born as a commoner just like her father.
well i knew about Anora's origins but if you're fully the King why does Anora still call you prince, and consort from time to time when she's not calling you Warden or Husband in Awakening?
I officially romanced Morrigan and married Anora to become king. The dope thing is if you tell Morrigan its strictly political and that it works in favor for you and Anora she will continue to be your love interest. You can also still kill her father Loghain as long as you let Allister swing the sword (Ned Stark would not approve) and she will go through with the marriage.
Reasons to be-friend loghain 1. He’s an easy sacrificial lamb. Ultimate sacrifice him against the Archdemon or in the Fade for Inquisition 2. His voice actor is pretty cool 3. He loves Ferelden, but made bad choices 4. He doesn’t really question your morals 5. He’s the second Origins character that actually visits you in Vigil’s Keep and gives you a gift. 6. He’s a pretty good tank 7. He loves his daughter 8. He actually compliments you and calls you a ‘Natural leader’ better than he was. If you high approval him. However, I only do this if everyone has a good ending So Anora and Alistair rule together Loghain a grey warden
@@TheSlammurai I haven't played inquisition since it's pretty bad but, doesn't sparing him make alistar leave your group, have him say he hates you and runs away out of anger if you spare lohgan?
@@delta2372 yes true. Sparing Lohgan and making him a Grey Warden automatically makes Alistair leaves the group. So it is not possible to keep Lohgan alive and at the same time have Alistair and Anora marry.
When announcing their engagement, Anora refers to the Warden as Ferelden's future king. I guess this was either a subtle nod to the Warden winning Anora over, or an oversight.
This option has always felt the most realistic adaptation of how marriage was when it’s sole purpose was to form alliances. It was basically just a business deed.
The only thing Loghain did wrong as a patriot was underestimate the main character, which he admits to doing in the Landsmeet. Everything else was a matter of morality, and morality doesn't win wars.
@@Adanu191 No. Patriots don't commit treason. The man is an uncaring, unfeeling zealot full of hatred. If left unchecked, Ferelden would've been lost to the blight. His lack of morals nearly lost him the one thing he claims to love and that's his country. Loghain is a fraud
@@Adanu191 He started a brutal civil war in Ferelden on the cusp of a blight, causing countless deaths and a splitting of attention and troops during the time when the country he claims to love could afford it least.
@@JB-xl2jc Ok, and? He saw his King about to put his daughter aside to court the leader of his worst enemy, and saw said King making a serious tactical blunder. Cailan, no matter how you haters want to say otherwise, brought his death on himself.
@@Adanu191 I'm talking about AFTER Cailan's death. Loghain could've easily said "Listen, there's a blight going on. I don't care who becomes King. I don't want it to be me. But while this Blight is ongoing, and I know it to BE ongoing since I saw our king die with my own eyes, you MUST allow me to be the head general and head south to meet them. I will be sending envoys to every Grey Warden branch to see what can be done, and using my troops to protect the smallfolk." Instead, he tries to assassinate the only remaining grey wardens, blocks Orlesian grey warden aid, has multiple nobles offed, and attempts to seize power for himself (and somewhat for his daughter). REGARDLESS of what you think of Cailan or Ostagar, everything that came after is a huge power grab by Loghain at a time Fereldan could least afford it. Countless small folk met their end to the Darkspawn because Loghain ran to Denerim to play politics, and pulled all the forces of the country into a bitter Civil War.
I don't know why, but I think Anora will fall in love with the Warden,when they married. Sonner or later ^_^ And your Warden is a cute one, DanaDuchy. I was hoping for a kiss (or just a cheek kiss) inAwkening, but...oh well...maybe in a DLC or in DA3 ^^'
I know I felt that way as well with my Warden. I hope in DA:I that Anora and the Warden have a child together if the option is available. I believe only the child of the Hero can bring the world back to peace.
Possibly, if we agree on that the Warden disappeared in either late 37 or 38 Dragon. If so, spending seven/eight years together is a plus, but it all comes down to headcanon really. In Inquisition, the Hero of Ferelden codex states something I did not expect, and I'm uncertain why BioWare didn't just let it be ambiguous.
I love how she says you're going to be consort but then quickly announces you as kind should you survive. Like she knew there was no way a war hero saving an entire country from a Blight wasn't gonna be desired by the people to lead them. She's a politic alright.
Messiah Because Morrigan actually experience a change that rock her to her core. Anora still a pompous b*tch throughout it all. Not much to learn on the same spot.
@@gaaraofthefunk7163 not that we know. Morrigan has a difficult mother and when she had her child she matured greatly. Anora has a difficult father, either she’ll be a good mom or a disaster... In either case Alistair would be a more present father, the Warden is fated to be absent.
@@spalenzagabrielBruh, Anora happy with her “life’s growth”, Morrigan is always looking to improve, in different dimensions/aspects of herself, and despite her rough edges, is always honest and true to her word. Idk that a Queen Warden would be “always” absent, and not conveniently so as we’re shown in Inquisition, just because of the variety of the game, but even she still would be greater parent than Anora. She meant well... yes... she just sucks at being good. Imagine if she’d had a child with Cailan; “I’m sorry darling, your dad is dead... but it was the best move my dad could have made... yes, he is also about to imprison me, but is what the land needs” wtf?... Uhm, no.
Fact is, Anora only cares about staying on the throne. If you don't talk to her, she straight up lies during the landsmeet & makes you look like a kidnapper, all in an attempt to stay Queen. She may be a good ruler, but she don't GAF about anything other than being queen. Also, she can't produce an heir so her marrying Alistar or the Warden is a bad idea.
Is it just me or does Anora seem to have softened up to Prince Cousland in the months following their wedding, maybe even developed a genuine affection? Based on how she talkes to him in Awakening, I'd like to think so. Loghain may say that she had a "horrified look" when he asked about an heir but we have to remember that it was literally her DAD basically asking "Hey, you two bangin' yet?" And his line about her managing to convice the Prince to leave the court and having "a way of getting what she wants" (alluding to the idea that she just wants to get him out of the way), kinda conflicts with Anora herself admitting that having to ask him to leave court to deal with whatever is going on with the darkspawn around Vigil's Keep troubles her. And that she hopes his returning to the Grey Wardens is only temorary. Admittedly, she may just be faking the affection but...
I wish that Alistair would execute her after I made him king, but then there wouldn't be anybody for the coronation ceremony in the epilogue so I guess I can forgive it.
I appreciate you making this video, because it was something that was never going to happen in my game, no matter how many times I play it. Anora really is a slippery little creature, who will sell whatever it takes to give herself power -- including herself. For all of those commenting that they didn't like Anora simply because she didn't do anything to stop Loghain, that's the point. She may have grieved Cailan's death (may, depending on your own take/ game), but as soon as it happened she began her move to get on the throne. The only reason she seeks you out at Denerim is to give herself a chip to throw in against you if you didn't play for her and an ear to convince you that she should get the throne. It had nothing to do with not stopping Loghain; it had to do with working his every moment to build a perfect stage for her Royal Highness to stand upon. It made me laugh a little when I played "Awakening" the first time. Can anyone honestly imagine Anora marching down the road, in the middle of the night, into a potentially dangerous keep, in her sparkly gown? It was so crazily out of place.
+Dog Flamingo i actually like anora& as consort you can keep a close eye on her also theres the added bonus of having loghain know youre sleeping with his daughter
Loghain: *drinks darkspawn taint and passes out* Perfect timed advert: "have you been Injured at work and need compensation? Call lawyers4U". *Me imagining loghain suing the grey wardens for neglect in the ritual initiation*
True there really should be a crash mat or something like i wonder how many wardens didnt die from the blood but cracking their heads open on the stone floor.
Honestly, it's a shame that Alistair feels obligated to leave the Grey Wardens if Loghain lives. Loghain's an asshole, yes. He does deserve execution. But penance in service as a Grey Warden forced to live out his life serving as a Warden, especially in a country he despises - it seems that it would work rather well for all parties. Ah well, at least he can serve as king one way or another.
It's a shame you can't convince Alistair to accept Loghain purely as a sacrifice to kill the Archdemon (though I suppose Riordan hadn't told you about that yet).
@@Robert399 There's cut content that confirms that originally you could convince Alistair to stay in the party. There's even dialogue between them in "Return to Ostagar".
seeing how loghain is here it'seasier to justify sparing his life. up to and through the landsmeet, he seems a faceless implacable evil, on par with the archdemon. I bet this loghain is the guy maric befriended, not whatever the hell was driving his wagon during the blight.
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Loghain does whatever he deems necessary to win, short of asking Orlais for assistance, and for good reason. He knew Ostagar was lost so he bailed, and thought he alone would be enough to defeat the darkspawn, as he didn't think it was a true blight. The Stolen Throne is a book that shows how Maric and Loghain became friends, and that Loghain isn't a bad guy
And yet in that same book Flemeth warned Maric that Loghain would betray his legacy. No, Loghain was wrong about Ostagar, they had won several battles already, and to sacrifice not only wardens, but the king's men, the circle mages, the ash warriors, everyone? That's terrible. Loghain deserves to be executed.
In Ostagar the darkspawn were already smarter thanks to the Architect. The tunnel in the tower wasn’t a coincidence. Ostagar wasn’t a lost battle, but the victory they could have achieved there would be minimal. They had the terrain advantage to compensate for the numerical superiority of the horde, but that depended on the Loghain’s Army fighting spirit. An army with seasoned warriors, plus the high morale caused by a legendary hero in the battlefield, defeat wasn’t a certainty.
Loghain is a testament that some antagonists are capable of redeeming themselves for their wrongdoings, I really love this game, wish they'd remake it or just make the graphics and gameplay a bit better.
Plus his real punishment is not drinking the taint and becoming a grey warden, but having to live in Orlais. That is a punishment way better than death.
The epilogue where she rules alone makes mention that she rebutts all proposals because they do not meet her standards for a good man; that of her father. The unspoken implication being that in that "intimidating" remark, she essentially concedes that the Cousland warden is the only other bloke that impresses her as much as her father.
@@mortenaassauthen8961 Which means... Wardem Cousland and Alistair are the only ones worthy. Hardened Alistair at least. Both Anora and Loghain recognize his worthy, Loghain when he loses the duel and Anora when he shows his interest in becoming a good king. Pity she's likely barren and will not be mother to the next king/queen.
@@xeagaort plus, even if the Warden is prince consort there is no mention whatsoever of Anora being mother... Only Loghain in Awakening saying he wants grandkids.
Battle of Ostatar, Siege of Denerim, The Defense of the Village of Redkeep The Purging of Zathianes Elves, The Reclaiming of Vigles Keep, The Death of the Paragon Bronka, The Saving of of Amaranthine. Those times.
Like how most weddings were, in real world history. If I ever did a male Cousland playthrough, I'm definitely going to find a way to give Morrigan her baby, harden Lelianna to make her mistress, and marry Anora (while Loghain remains alive and Alistair is banished). Because that sounds like the most interesting series of events that could come out of DAO.
I think its awesome they add choice..Allister who is next in line die to blood linege wasnt even ready to lead a country...Anora can run the country while your warden can lead and i know it seems like this is business bt I bet Anora and the warden can really have feelings for each other..and make love rather than sex
dragnet53 actually it's a couple of dialogue lines from Loghain. "the man you're speaking of is the warden commander of Ferelden,also Prince-consort to Anora" when it should be "the man you're speaking of is my son-in-law,the HoF also the Warden commander and King of Ferelden with my daughter Anora" Anora doesn't mention you. or if Leliana is your mistress the game will say "The mistress to the prince-consort of Ferelden" when it should be "the mistress to the *King* of Ferelden" it's rather annoying called consort when the HNF that married alistair is called "Queen" rather than "princess-consort" it's clear that they didn't care and that what you get is almost the same as Queen Anora alone.
***** you are more lucky if you marry Alistair,you are referred as Queen in Inquisition,Alistair gets a unique reaction and a unique letter from the Female HoF while if you're male and became King,you'll be barely mentioned three times as "prince-consort" (already giving off the idea that you are nothing but a plaything for Anora,but it cannot be) and nothing more,no special letter for Anora (by the HoF) or no special dialogue from Anora,there is nothing but a couple mentions by Loghain and if Leliana is your mistress she's mentioned as your mistress (to the prince consort of ferelden when it should have been Mistress to the king of ferelden) if you import a warden that has married Anora and became king is EXACTLY THE SAME as Queen Anora rules alone,when it has been proven that it's not true and that King Cousland rules jointly. it's insulting,but predictable from EAware,especially from Gayder who heavily favours females. stupid illusion of choice,probably EAware doesn't aknownledge saved games outside their own where they presume that everyone follows the same path,theirs.
+Giannis k. you can rule together & your standing in the populace is unmatched anoras popularity is reflected from your deeds rather then her own with the right backing from the noble houses & anoras inability to bear a child it would be easy to have her ousted as queen when the time was right you can have her instated as a figurehead queen & rule from the shadows she takes the ultimate blame for the way in which the rebellion is handled in the alienage in DAI
Clone Stormtrooper rule applies in real life too. Notice how the Queen of England's husband is called Prince Phillip, and not King Phillip. It's because the King is the highest title there is, and since Queen Elizabeth currently has the highest title, her husband's title shouldn't be higher than hers.
Every time I play a male warden I promise myself that this time I will marry Anora...and every time I end up choosing Morrigan and making Alistair king. :D Sometime I let him get married to Anora but that is as far as it goes. I just can't stand the thought of Loghain becoming a grey warden. It's impossible.
In fact, I think for him death is the easy way out. Letting him live, actually turning him into a warden - the very thing he fought against and ridiculed, then sending him to Orlais is to me quite a fitting fate for a fallen teyrn
I only have problem with marrying Anora because I don't want to let Alistair down. Personally I would happily marry Anora and make Loghain an expandable soldier.
@@TriniKnight01 You're not, BioWare are just weirdly inconsistent. Sometimes referred to as King sometimes Prince. Even the female Warden is sometimes inexplicably referred to as Princess consort.
You kinda wonder why Anora didn't give you one night of 'inspiration' before your final battle. True, that would interfere with Morrigan's plan but well, they could've done that before Anora.
Marrying the Queen, or the King in Alistair's case, is never a good idea in my view. If I recall, Wardens can't have children, so the royal line would stop with their deaths. Better to find an alternative if possible.
I’m not sure if this is a spoiler, but here’s the warning. I believe there was a Elf mage warden in inquisition who had an affair with a king. She got pregnant, and all the taint left her body. Won’t give a name for spoilers. It’s rare, very rare. But has happened.
Fereldens succession was doomed as soon as Cailan croaked it. The Landsmeet should hope that one of the Theirins had stuff going on the side, because it's very clear Alistair is probably infertile.
You can talk to Anora in the Assassin DLC in DA2, but I never tried it when the Warden married her, it would be interesting. I would also like to see Loghain, but if it is said that he died, I would understand it due to his age, the fact that he goes to Orlais being a veteran of the war against them, etc.
I see Anora more of an administrator than a envoy. Plus I see her a slightly paranoid. "If I dont keep a constant firm hand over Fereldan who knows what will happen".
Anora is a politician, and to gain her ends she will lie to your face, stab you in the back, and try to get you killed. She allies herself with Arl Howe, and there are several instances in-game where it’s said she was never really a prisoner at all. If you recruit Loghain he speaks of how it must have amused her to get the Warden to come running to the rescue.
Be good to Anora? Dude, she wields a giant fucking sword. If I am not good to her I will be dead and chopped into pieces before the letter ever *gets* to you!
If you went through the ritual with Morrigan then kill the archdemon, I'm surprised that none of the wardens question it in awakening. Especially considering the fact that Riordan always dies I'd assume some might think that he actually killed it instead
i know your comment is old but i think they question it at the end of origins, both alistair and loghain mention the orlesians asking questions , as for awakening most of the people you meet are new recruits, they wouldn't know . the real question is why Woolsey didn't ask you about it since she receives order's from the first warden but then again shes no grey warden. i hope in future games they ask about it even mistrusting the warden if he chose not to answer
That last little bit with Loghain just brought flashbacks from The Stolen Throne. I hated him my first playthrough but after reading the book I had more respect for him as a character.
I started disliking him after Stolen throne! The book showed he has always been a psycho traitor, manipulative bastard! It makes me wonder why so many females started loving him after reading the book! is it because he's fallen in "love" with an ugly woman or bc they're fetishizing him banging his pal Maric?
I had one play that the DA Keep won't let me repeat. Male Cousland marries Anora, Loghain joins wardens but dies killing Archdemon (no ritual) Alastair stayed a warden and showed up In DA2 and DAI in place of Stroud....when Inquisitor asks Alastair about the warden he replies "he walks a dark path"....
Problem is that Anora has no legal claim to the throne that she should even be making deals with you anyway. She’s knows that and she’s also politically shrewd, so she’s BSing you to think that she has power. If anything, _you_ technically have more claim to the throne than she does and _she_ should be proposing marriage to _you_ for power; not the other way around. With Anora’s husband, the legitimate Theirin King with Dragon’s Blood, dead and her being unable to produce any children at all with that royal blood for the throne, she no longer has any right to be ruling as a sovereign. If she at least had one child (just one) she could make the claim that she was ruling in that boy or girl’s name until they grew of age, but she had none at all. Anora was only made royalty in the first place by marriage to the King’s Royal House, the Theirin family, but she herself possesses none of that royal blood in her at all. Her parents were both born as commoners, with her father being the son of a farmer and her mother from a family of craftsmen. So she herself is very new nobility and would have no right to simply jump ahead of all the other more ancient and powerful houses of Ferelden nobility. She was quite politically competent though and could still stay in the royal court to perhaps serve as a chancellor or advisor for the crown, but she can’t simply seize the crown out of nowhere for herself. So setting Alistair aside, you as a Couseland, (or at least your older brother) would have far greater claim to the throne than Anora Mac Tir would, seeing as the Couselands are the oldest and most powerful noble house next to the royal house itself. Hell, even Arl Eamon would have more claim to throne than a Mac Tir would. My point is she needs _you,_ the player, to act as the Kingmaker for her in order to have a chance at claiming any power at all. However, you don’t necessarily _need_ her for anything really because she simply has no power to actually leverage with, other than she‘ll “perhaps” give you her vote of confidence in front of the nobles, which you don’t actually need anyways.
Loghain: Allow me to say that you have earned my respect Warden. Me: F@$! you Loghain!!! Wish Bioware had added a serious hostile remark dialogue option for The Warden to say at Loghain after he tells you that you've earned his so-called respect!!! Marry Anora? She's an ice-cold b@$!# but quite the looker & she does seem to mellow a little in the later games as she appears to develop genuine feelings for her new royal spouse!!! Letting Loghain live??? HELL NO, NOT EVER!!! Thank goodness you can marry Anora without having to let that murdering hypocrite traitor father of her's live :)
Calm the fuck down. Loghain respects strength and confidence, and that's exactly what it took to leave him alive against all opposition. This is simply his character. If you hate him so much, don't let him live.
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Most fun is Marrying Anora, having an old god baby with Morrigan and romancing Leliana. Had a little thing with Zevran and Isabela in the Pearl. My warden banged EVERYONE.
Ha ha, I went 3/4 of the way xD! Marry Anora, harden Leliana and have her as your mistress and have a baby with Morrigan xD!
so you when THE SHEPARD way...we'll bang, ok?
Everyone except the qunari
My Cousland Warden married Anora, became bros with a traitorous general AND son in law (Loghain)and had Alistair killed. Oh, and I also had an old god baby. That's Game of Thrones level shit.
@@Owliare Well the first game was inspired by The Song of Ice and Fire actually
Loghain assumes that Anora's horrified look means that she isn't really interested in the Warden, ignoring the fact that she's literally just been asked how much sex she's getting BY HER DAD.
+other tomperson And the dad of the year award goes to...
+Lance Leander L. Cembrano Rofl "ew." you say!
i was thinking the same thing when he said that. maybe she was just trying to take control back over her own mind so she didn't think of cranky old dad every time she and her husband are boning.
other tomperson I totally misread that as Anora fucking her dad.
The dreaded 'I want grandkids' talk.
I love how Loghain does the Joining like he's taking a shot XD
Alright, anoth- Oh, wait, we're not in a bar...
If your gonna die then go out strong.
Evrybooooodyyy AAAAAAAHHHH
Y E S @Candelaria
@@Owliare Pretty much...
*calls Loghain dad*
*gauntlet marks still left on face 10 years later*
🤣🤣🤣🤣
3:12 For the Warden who had decided to both marry Anora and spare Loghain, there're really should've been the "Consider this an engagement gift" option.
"If being a consort is not enough, then marry Alistair. Perhaps he will bend over more gracefully than I would"
Ho HO! Shots !@#$ing fired!
I might not like Anora on the grounds that she didn't really do squat to keep her Father in check, but damn if she doesn't have some of the best lines and political statements.
but the landsmeet decides,and you specifically say "i will rule beside her" or something like that
there are even multiple mentions of the King HNM Warden in DA2 of the "King ruling Ferelden"
even Anora can't claim the throne because she was a consort to Cailan.
Now my Boromir Cousland bends her over nightly all while trying to seek out Morrigan.
She absolutely savages him with that line
It's a good option when you think about it. My Cousland was in the mindset that his chance for a a normal life was over when he joined the Wardens. He didn't seek out romance, because it would be wrong to fall in love when he was destined to live and die on the battlefield. He marries Anora to make sure she can't betray them easily, and so his best friend doesn't get stuck with a life he doesn't want. The Prince Consort also makes things better, as it allows him more freedom, should the Wardens need him.
If u harden alistair it's a life he accepts/wants.
Rathorage my Cousland wanted to be King because he felt that the world needs strong leaders and Alistair was better as a Warden.
and you're actually King,not prince,i haven't married her to be her bootlicker,the landsmeet declared me King,even Anora declared it in public,so i'm King.
King Derner Cousland to the public you're king but behind close doors Anora pulls all the strigns and officially you're the prince which is why she calls you such from time to time in Awakening...
nope you're king official on the same level of Alistair/Anora joint rule.
It's the landsmeet that decides
if you were just "prince" you couldn't have been able to fight Anora over the throne (ending slide)
The Warden is already much more powerful than she is.
He comes from a ancient bloodline older than the Theirin,while the Mac Tir were elevated to nobility.Anora herself was born as a commoner just like her father.
well i knew about Anora's origins but if you're fully the King why does Anora still call you prince, and consort from time to time when she's not calling you Warden or Husband in Awakening?
I officially romanced Morrigan and married Anora to become king. The dope thing is if you tell Morrigan its strictly political and that it works in favor for you and Anora she will continue to be your love interest. You can also still kill her father Loghain as long as you let Allister swing the sword (Ned Stark would not approve) and she will go through with the marriage.
Thanks
dont feel like disappointing ned stark
nominate Alistair to fight and he saves you a decision
Did Anora just advise Cousland to marry Alistair? Sounds like she's a bit of a shipper if you ask me.
CollectorOfMyst think she was just being a smart ass lol
Reasons to be-friend loghain
1. He’s an easy sacrificial lamb. Ultimate sacrifice him against the Archdemon or in the Fade for Inquisition
2. His voice actor is pretty cool
3. He loves Ferelden, but made bad choices
4. He doesn’t really question your morals
5. He’s the second Origins character that actually visits you in Vigil’s Keep and gives you a gift.
6. He’s a pretty good tank
7. He loves his daughter
8. He actually compliments you and calls you a ‘Natural leader’ better than he was. If you high approval him.
However, I only do this if everyone has a good ending
So Anora and Alistair rule together
Loghain a grey warden
Simon Templeman is definitely one of my favorite voice actors, if not my ABSOLUTE favorite; Legacy of Kain made me biased. 😆
I would rather not sacrifice him at all
Leaving him in the Fade in Inquisition was a perfect end for him, much more dignified than just executing him in a duel if you ask me.
@@TheSlammurai I haven't played inquisition since it's pretty bad but, doesn't sparing him make alistar leave your group, have him say he hates you and runs away out of anger if you spare lohgan?
@@delta2372 yes true. Sparing Lohgan and making him a Grey Warden automatically makes Alistair leaves the group. So it is not possible to keep Lohgan alive and at the same time have Alistair and Anora marry.
When announcing their engagement, Anora refers to the Warden as Ferelden's future king. I guess this was either a subtle nod to the Warden winning Anora over, or an oversight.
It could also just be that it sounds more dramatic than "husband," "prince," or "consort".
I like how in Awakening one of the background characters asks "Hows your wife?". He will say it regardless though.
Basically Arnora: "I don't know what to do with my hands"
This option has always felt the most realistic adaptation of how marriage was when it’s sole purpose was to form alliances. It was basically just a business deed.
befriending Loghain is quite...interesting, human nature is something impressive.
The only thing Loghain did wrong as a patriot was underestimate the main character, which he admits to doing in the Landsmeet. Everything else was a matter of morality, and morality doesn't win wars.
@@Adanu191 No. Patriots don't commit treason. The man is an uncaring, unfeeling zealot full of hatred. If left unchecked, Ferelden would've been lost to the blight. His lack of morals nearly lost him the one thing he claims to love and that's his country.
Loghain is a fraud
@@Adanu191 He started a brutal civil war in Ferelden on the cusp of a blight, causing countless deaths and a splitting of attention and troops during the time when the country he claims to love could afford it least.
@@JB-xl2jc Ok, and? He saw his King about to put his daughter aside to court the leader of his worst enemy, and saw said King making a serious tactical blunder.
Cailan, no matter how you haters want to say otherwise, brought his death on himself.
@@Adanu191 I'm talking about AFTER Cailan's death. Loghain could've easily said "Listen, there's a blight going on. I don't care who becomes King. I don't want it to be me. But while this Blight is ongoing, and I know it to BE ongoing since I saw our king die with my own eyes, you MUST allow me to be the head general and head south to meet them. I will be sending envoys to every Grey Warden branch to see what can be done, and using my troops to protect the smallfolk."
Instead, he tries to assassinate the only remaining grey wardens, blocks Orlesian grey warden aid, has multiple nobles offed, and attempts to seize power for himself (and somewhat for his daughter).
REGARDLESS of what you think of Cailan or Ostagar, everything that came after is a huge power grab by Loghain at a time Fereldan could least afford it. Countless small folk met their end to the Darkspawn because Loghain ran to Denerim to play politics, and pulled all the forces of the country into a bitter Civil War.
I don't know why, but I think Anora will fall in love with the Warden,when they married. Sonner or later ^_^ And your Warden is a cute one, DanaDuchy.
I was hoping for a kiss (or just a cheek kiss) inAwkening, but...oh well...maybe in a DLC or in DA3 ^^'
I know I felt that way as well with my Warden. I hope in DA:I that Anora and the Warden have a child together if the option is available. I believe only the child of the Hero can bring the world back to peace.
payneicecold3000 Or you could have a Warden/Hawke child. The descendant of those would would be the most powerful person in Thedas.
***** Or both women.
+IwarinJones well in the codex it states anora falls for the warden & hasnt smiled since his disappearance
+eiji niizuma In the codex of which game?
I wonder if Anora will have warm up to the Warden by the time of Inquisition
Possibly, if we agree on that the Warden disappeared in either late 37 or 38 Dragon. If so, spending seven/eight years together is a plus, but it all comes down to headcanon really. In Inquisition, the Hero of Ferelden codex states something I did not expect, and I'm uncertain why BioWare didn't just let it be ambiguous.
She might even allow him to kiss her in public!
Mine left with morrigan in witch hunt lol
Redem10 she better call him king.i don't like being called a consort
Redem10 probably she looked like she warmed up to him before the wedding even started
I love how she says you're going to be consort but then quickly announces you as kind should you survive. Like she knew there was no way a war hero saving an entire country from a Blight wasn't gonna be desired by the people to lead them. She's a politic alright.
Hey, If Morrigan changed by the Time of the Inquisition. Why wouldn't Anora. The Wardens excellent stamina would drive her mad ;).
Messiah Because Morrigan actually experience a change that rock her to her core. Anora still a pompous b*tch throughout it all. Not much to learn on the same spot.
@@gaaraofthefunk7163 not that we know. Morrigan has a difficult mother and when she had her child she matured greatly. Anora has a difficult father, either she’ll be a good mom or a disaster... In either case Alistair would be a more present father, the Warden is fated to be absent.
@@spalenzagabrielBruh, Anora happy with her “life’s growth”, Morrigan is always looking to improve, in different dimensions/aspects of herself, and despite her rough edges, is always honest and true to her word. Idk that a Queen Warden would be “always” absent, and not conveniently so as we’re shown in Inquisition, just because of the variety of the game, but even she still would be greater parent than Anora. She meant well... yes... she just sucks at being good.
Imagine if she’d had a child with Cailan; “I’m sorry darling, your dad is dead... but it was the best move my dad could have made... yes, he is also about to imprison me, but is what the land needs” wtf?... Uhm, no.
@@gaaraofthefunk7163 This ain't a competition
@@jullevenmendoza1516 Shh, can’t you tell I’m trying to make into one? rofl 🤣 nah, you right… it really ain’t 😂
Fact is, Anora only cares about staying on the throne. If you don't talk to her, she straight up lies during the landsmeet & makes you look like a kidnapper, all in an attempt to stay Queen. She may be a good ruler, but she don't GAF about anything other than being queen. Also, she can't produce an heir so her marrying Alistar or the Warden is a bad idea.
there's something oddly sweet about Anora and a male Warden's relationship.
No
Yes! I think that too! Is very sweet
Yeah, it took me a while to see it, but she is very likable given a chance.
What's sweet about it. She's basically using him as a figurehead
Potentially she is a wise ruler 👸
Is it just me or does Anora seem to have softened up to Prince Cousland in the months following their wedding, maybe even developed a genuine affection? Based on how she talkes to him in Awakening, I'd like to think so.
Loghain may say that she had a "horrified look" when he asked about an heir but we have to remember that it was literally her DAD basically asking "Hey, you two bangin' yet?" And his line about her managing to convice the Prince to leave the court and having "a way of getting what she wants" (alluding to the idea that she just wants to get him out of the way), kinda conflicts with Anora herself admitting that having to ask him to leave court to deal with whatever is going on with the darkspawn around Vigil's Keep troubles her. And that she hopes his returning to the Grey Wardens is only temorary. Admittedly, she may just be faking the affection but...
That’s what makes Anora such a political genius. You never know when she is being sincere.
Chicks dig the whole saving the world shit...
Is it bad that I feel nothing for anora's well- being? Like if she fell off a cliff, "Oh...Well, that happens."
+Uriel Septim And night is darkness.
I wish that Alistair would execute her after I made him king, but then there wouldn't be anybody for the coronation ceremony in the epilogue so I guess I can forgive it.
What a godly answer.
gets stabbed in neck, "so, that happened."
William Craig III I never really make her queen but I tell her I will side with her
Anora: best ass in DA:O. And now owned by my Warden *evil laugh*.
None of my runs had that traitor Loghain live.
I’d be honoured to have Loghain as a father-in-law. Papa Loghain.
Just don’t depend on him for any life or death situations.
I appreciate you making this video, because it was something that was never going to happen in my game, no matter how many times I play it. Anora really is a slippery little creature, who will sell whatever it takes to give herself power -- including herself. For all of those commenting that they didn't like Anora simply because she didn't do anything to stop Loghain, that's the point. She may have grieved Cailan's death (may, depending on your own take/ game), but as soon as it happened she began her move to get on the throne. The only reason she seeks you out at Denerim is to give herself a chip to throw in against you if you didn't play for her and an ear to convince you that she should get the throne. It had nothing to do with not stopping Loghain; it had to do with working his every moment to build a perfect stage for her Royal Highness to stand upon.
It made me laugh a little when I played "Awakening" the first time. Can anyone honestly imagine Anora marching down the road, in the middle of the night, into a potentially dangerous keep, in her sparkly gown? It was so crazily out of place.
cocktailsquid i might remove her from power once i'm on throne.
i just let her pretend she's in control,while i'll hold the real power
+Dog Flamingo i actually like anora& as consort you can keep a close eye on her also theres the added bonus of having loghain know youre sleeping with his daughter
Dog Flamingo Seriously! At least Alistair still had the royal arms(?) is that how it was called?... well, royal armor lol 😂
My playthrough I married anora and also kept Leliana as a side piece yet still impregnated morrigan. Yes it is possible but you got to do it properly
It almost seems like you're romancing her 🤔
Considering her tone when she said “intimidating”... She wouldn’t mind producing those grandkids Loghain wanted.
Too bad we can't actually romance her, she is a bit of a tsundere but that makes it interesting
>this video's duration is 9:11
I smell Illuminati
+Dead Pool 9:10*
+Christoffer Karlsson no deadpool was right
+Christoffer Karlsson 9:11*
+MrFlashu2 :666*
Loghain: *drinks darkspawn taint and passes out*
Perfect timed advert: "have you been Injured at work and need compensation? Call lawyers4U".
*Me imagining loghain suing the grey wardens for neglect in the ritual initiation*
Brilliant lol I got the same advert and laughed more than I should have XD
True there really should be a crash mat or something like i wonder how many wardens didnt die from the blood but cracking their heads open on the stone floor.
I cannot believe someone made a game where you can become the villain’s son-in-law.
yeap...
I love Anora so much, she's adorable and I want to make a male Cousland just to be able to marry her.
Same but for me that ass was hmmmm I soon i find out I can marry her i start my new playthrough to smack that pink pink
I'm sorry but your naive
My warden better of givin the D after the credits
Honestly, it's a shame that Alistair feels obligated to leave the Grey Wardens if Loghain lives. Loghain's an asshole, yes. He does deserve execution. But penance in service as a Grey Warden forced to live out his life serving as a Warden, especially in a country he despises - it seems that it would work rather well for all parties. Ah well, at least he can serve as king one way or another.
It's a shame you can't convince Alistair to accept Loghain purely as a sacrifice to kill the Archdemon (though I suppose Riordan hadn't told you about that yet).
@@Robert399 There's cut content that confirms that originally you could convince Alistair to stay in the party.
There's even dialogue between them in "Return to Ostagar".
2:35 - Those swords 👌
seeing how loghain is here it'seasier to justify sparing his life. up to and through the landsmeet, he seems a faceless implacable evil, on par with the archdemon. I bet this loghain is the guy maric befriended, not whatever the hell was driving his wagon during the blight.
Loghain: if I hear differently remember orlais is just across the border I can come back
Me: well.....shit
Our poor warden has no luck with in laws... Flemeth and now Loghain...
Christ, I totally read the title wrong for a moment - 'Marrying Anora and Loghain' xD I was like 'WHOA HOLD ON THERE!!!'
Anora is pretty though... Why not? xD
Baby got back!
Hurlock alpha the Anti-Globalist You know.... the fact that your nickname is Hurlock Alpha, explains a lot. I was about to say something, but then read it, and it just... explained SO MUCH regarding that comment lmao 😂 okay bro, you do you* 🤣
@@gaaraofthefunk7163 She would make a fine broodmother. :3
Hurlock alpha the Anti-Globalist I can already see it lol 😂
Loghain does whatever he deems necessary to win, short of asking Orlais for assistance, and for good reason. He knew Ostagar was lost so he bailed, and thought he alone would be enough to defeat the darkspawn, as he didn't think it was a true blight. The Stolen Throne is a book that shows how Maric and Loghain became friends, and that Loghain isn't a bad guy
And yet in that same book Flemeth warned Maric that Loghain would betray his legacy. No, Loghain was wrong about Ostagar, they had won several battles already, and to sacrifice not only wardens, but the king's men, the circle mages, the ash warriors, everyone? That's terrible. Loghain deserves to be executed.
@@07lipe077 ....Ostagar was absolutely unwinnable. Loghain deserves execution, yes, but for the *slaving*, not Ostagar.
Curtis Haison Bad and incredibly stupid... but whatever, the story moves on.
Sounds like a bitch talk. You live by the sword, you die by it
In Ostagar the darkspawn were already smarter thanks to the Architect. The tunnel in the tower wasn’t a coincidence. Ostagar wasn’t a lost battle, but the victory they could have achieved there would be minimal. They had the terrain advantage to compensate for the numerical superiority of the horde, but that depended on the Loghain’s Army fighting spirit. An army with seasoned warriors, plus the high morale caused by a legendary hero in the battlefield, defeat wasn’t a certainty.
I had to laugh. Logan takes a sip of the goblet as if it were wine, falls over and the next scene comes straight away, so we're done
Loghain is a testament that some antagonists are capable of redeeming themselves for their wrongdoings, I really love this game, wish they'd remake it or just make the graphics and gameplay a bit better.
Plus his real punishment is not drinking the taint and becoming a grey warden, but having to live in Orlais. That is a punishment way better than death.
@@spalenzagabriel Indeed, letting Loghain live is so much the best choice.
@@makotomikami You lose Alistair from the party though.
@@lorenzovillarico7654 Yeah, but you can still force him to become king and marry Anora, and keep him being an important part of the plot.
1:45 Savage.
Heh, anora and the warden will need a son to take the throne when they die so ... xD
"You will be largely on your own." WHEN ARE WE NEVER LEFT ON OUR OWN
I was going to say the Mabari never leaves you on your own... But he missed Awakening. I’d have love to see the dog chatting up with the Architect
When our dear queen says “intimidating” we know what she actually means.
The epilogue where she rules alone makes mention that she rebutts all proposals because they do not meet her standards for a good man; that of her father. The unspoken implication being that in that "intimidating" remark, she essentially concedes that the Cousland warden is the only other bloke that impresses her as much as her father.
@@mortenaassauthen8961 Which means... Wardem Cousland and Alistair are the only ones worthy.
Hardened Alistair at least. Both Anora and Loghain recognize his worthy, Loghain when he loses the duel and Anora when he shows his interest in becoming a good king. Pity she's likely barren and will not be mother to the next king/queen.
@@spalenzagabriel What makes you say she's barren?
@@xeagaort ten years of marriage and no heir? Either this or Alistair really likes being a virgin.
@@xeagaort plus, even if the Warden is prince consort there is no mention whatsoever of Anora being mother... Only Loghain in Awakening saying he wants grandkids.
Battle of Ostatar, Siege of Denerim, The Defense of the Village of Redkeep The Purging of Zathianes Elves, The Reclaiming of Vigles Keep, The Death of the Paragon Bronka, The Saving of of Amaranthine.
Those times.
I like how Loghain starts becoming a better man when he becomes a Warden
Ah, I love Queen Anora so much
she looks just like her voice actress.
I wanted to like Anora as she clearly has the tact and sharp mind for politics, but she also seemingly had no loyalty to anybody except herself.
I wish we could have inducted more party members. Like zeveran or sten. Or even be given the option to save tamlen
I get the feeling that this is a business transaction
Yeah but her tits are worth it
Like how most weddings were, in real world history.
If I ever did a male Cousland playthrough, I'm definitely going to find a way to give Morrigan her baby, harden Lelianna to make her mistress, and marry Anora (while Loghain remains alive and Alistair is banished).
Because that sounds like the most interesting series of events that could come out of DAO.
I think its awesome they add choice..Allister who is next in line die to blood linege wasnt even ready to lead a country...Anora can run the country while your warden can lead and i know it seems like this is business bt I bet Anora and the warden can really have feelings for each other..and make love rather than sex
How are they going to implement this in Inquisition? Interesting outcome for sure.
dragnet53 actually it's a couple of dialogue lines from Loghain.
"the man you're speaking of is the warden commander of Ferelden,also Prince-consort to Anora"
when it should be
"the man you're speaking of is my son-in-law,the HoF also the Warden commander and King of Ferelden with my daughter Anora"
Anora doesn't mention you.
or if Leliana is your mistress the game will say "The mistress to the prince-consort of Ferelden"
when it should be "the mistress to the *King* of Ferelden"
it's rather annoying called consort when the HNF that married alistair is called "Queen" rather than "princess-consort"
it's clear that they didn't care and that what you get is almost the same as Queen Anora alone.
man,excuse me,but are we brothers?
we have the same opinions.
***** you are more lucky if you marry Alistair,you are referred as Queen in Inquisition,Alistair gets a unique reaction and a unique letter from the Female HoF
while if you're male and became King,you'll be barely mentioned three times as "prince-consort" (already giving off the idea that you are nothing but a plaything for Anora,but it cannot be) and nothing more,no special letter for Anora (by the HoF) or no special dialogue from Anora,there is nothing but a couple mentions by Loghain and if Leliana is your mistress she's mentioned as your mistress (to the prince consort of ferelden when it should have been Mistress to the king of ferelden)
if you import a warden that has married Anora and became king is EXACTLY THE SAME as Queen Anora rules alone,when it has been proven that it's not true and that King Cousland rules jointly.
it's insulting,but predictable from EAware,especially from Gayder who heavily favours females.
stupid illusion of choice,probably EAware doesn't aknownledge saved games outside their own where they presume that everyone follows the same path,theirs.
+Giannis k. you can rule together & your standing in the populace is unmatched anoras popularity is reflected from your deeds rather then her own with the right backing from the noble houses & anoras inability to bear a child it would be easy to have her ousted as queen when the time was right you can have her instated as a figurehead queen & rule from the shadows she takes the ultimate blame for the way in which the rebellion is handled in the alienage in DAI
Clone Stormtrooper rule applies in real life too. Notice how the Queen of England's husband is called Prince Phillip, and not King Phillip. It's because the King is the highest title there is, and since Queen Elizabeth currently has the highest title, her husband's title shouldn't be higher than hers.
Alistair kills Loghain
human noble Marrying Anora
Every time I play a male warden I promise myself that this time I will marry Anora...and every time I end up choosing Morrigan and making Alistair king. :D Sometime I let him get married to Anora but that is as far as it goes. I just can't stand the thought of Loghain becoming a grey warden. It's impossible.
Loghain becoming a Gray Warden is fine, because you can sacrifice him in DA:Inquisition :D
In fact, I think for him death is the easy way out.
Letting him live, actually turning him into a warden - the very thing he fought against and ridiculed, then sending him to Orlais is to me quite a fitting fate for a fallen teyrn
I only have problem with marrying Anora because I don't want to let Alistair down. Personally I would happily marry Anora and make Loghain an expandable soldier.
I’ve run this through so many different ways and I’ve never had this particular outcome.
That asp of a man Loghain lives.. Never will happen in my games no more then marrying Anora.Interesting video though. Thanks for posting.
@- Loghain's a bitch and Anora's a cum rag not even worthy to be tread beneath Alistair's shoe 😂
@Dalton K He ended up being a great ruler if you hardened him.
idk man, loghain's a pretty cool guy if you actually spare him
Consort she says.. bitch im the hero of ferelden, im king
id play a remake of dragon age origins ...soon as #4 is available hopefully the #1 remake will start
Why does a king HoF kneel to the queen?
Probably to lazy to make any new animations. Because it was intended for Alistair.
You're technically prince consort. Though given that the Cousland family has noble seniority, I'm not sure why.
It was intended for Elissa Cousland and other Wardens toward Alistair or Anora, they're just lazy to change it
@@TriniKnight01 You're not, BioWare are just weirdly inconsistent. Sometimes referred to as King sometimes Prince. Even the female Warden is sometimes inexplicably referred to as Princess consort.
I know right, disrespectful. I’m a fucking Cousland
well that was better than I expected
Fuck non-Grey Warden interests, put Alistair on the throne and let the Wardens shine.
You kinda wonder why Anora didn't give you one night of 'inspiration' before your final battle. True, that would interfere with Morrigan's plan but well, they could've done that before Anora.
Marrying the Queen, or the King in Alistair's case, is never a good idea in my view. If I recall, Wardens can't have children, so the royal line would stop with their deaths. Better to find an alternative if possible.
I’m not sure if this is a spoiler, but here’s the warning.
I believe there was a Elf mage warden in inquisition who had an affair with a king. She got pregnant, and all the taint left her body. Won’t give a name for spoilers.
It’s rare, very rare. But has happened.
@@IsRickIV Plus Morrigan kid is from a warden
Fereldens succession was doomed as soon as Cailan croaked it. The Landsmeet should hope that one of the Theirins had stuff going on the side, because it's very clear Alistair is probably infertile.
Doesn't this result in a Drunk Alistair ending?
that, or he can be killed during the LM. Either is great, so I always marry Anora.
Why does the Warden bow when Anora shows up on awakening? He should be the only one not to bow tbh
feminism and shit, i guess, lol... wahmen are great you know. They dont need a man behind and shit. BIG LOL.
You can talk to Anora in the Assassin DLC in DA2, but I never tried it when the Warden married her, it would be interesting.
I would also like to see Loghain, but if it is said that he died, I would understand it due to his age, the fact that he goes to Orlais being a veteran of the war against them, etc.
Oh my god I forgot about the Anora C-3PO arms in this game... 0:08
this was a good video
Om glad you did the logical thing and kept loghain alive and not crybaby alistair loghain is actually a badass and a dope dude
dayum not even a kiss
I did everything you did and she just straight up says no. Do I need a certain level of persuasion?
I see Anora more of an administrator than a envoy.
Plus I see her a slightly paranoid. "If I dont keep a constant firm hand over Fereldan who knows what will happen".
Anora is a politician, and to gain her ends she will lie to your face, stab you in the back, and try to get you killed. She allies herself with Arl Howe, and there are several instances in-game where it’s said she was never really a prisoner at all. If you recruit Loghain he speaks of how it must have amused her to get the Warden to come running to the rescue.
So didn't know this could happen. I'd rather have Leliana or Morrigan instead.
Can have Leliana join as well, harden Leliana and she’ll remain with you as kink/prince-consort.
@@Davidofthelost Leli deserves better
Be good to Anora? Dude, she wields a giant fucking sword. If I am not good to her I will be dead and chopped into pieces before the letter ever *gets* to you!
If you went through the ritual with Morrigan then kill the archdemon, I'm surprised that none of the wardens question it in awakening. Especially considering the fact that Riordan always dies I'd assume some might think that he actually killed it instead
i know your comment is old but i think they question it at the end of origins, both alistair and loghain mention the orlesians asking questions , as for awakening most of the people you meet are new recruits, they wouldn't know . the real question is why Woolsey didn't ask you about it since she receives order's from the first warden but then again shes no grey warden.
i hope in future games they ask about it even mistrusting the warden if he chose not to answer
don't they need an Heir?
That last little bit with Loghain just brought flashbacks from The Stolen Throne. I hated him my first playthrough but after reading the book I had more respect for him as a character.
I started disliking him after Stolen throne! The book showed he has always been a psycho traitor, manipulative bastard! It makes me wonder why so many females started loving him after reading the book! is it because he's fallen in "love" with an ugly woman or bc they're fetishizing him banging his pal Maric?
I let Alistair have the honor of putting his funky ass down
Is that logain and Alistair together? How did you manage that?
I notice you are using the required white teeth mod like a true fan.
The painful part of this. Alistair end up a drunk. Painful
I had one play that the DA Keep won't let me repeat. Male Cousland marries Anora, Loghain joins wardens but dies killing Archdemon (no ritual) Alastair stayed a warden and showed up In DA2 and DAI in place of Stroud....when Inquisitor asks Alastair about the warden he replies "he walks a dark path"....
not if you make him harder
My warden was a dalish boy and I tried to sway her but alas ... she has no taste for the knife ear gang
Ha!
Her turn on is noble family. Theirin, Cousland... Bet she would marry Celene if that could ensure her a peaceful and prosperous rule.
Worst mistake I ever made
That bodyguard is almost as slow on the uptake as I am on leaving comments.
Am I the only one that hates what she does with her hands?
IS THAT GODDAMN BLOOD ANGEL ARMOR I SEE!?
marry anora + romance morrigan + do morrigan's ritual , is it possible to follow her into the eluvian???
It is, mine did that.
Problem is that Anora has no legal claim to the throne that she should even be making deals with you anyway. She’s knows that and she’s also politically shrewd, so she’s BSing you to think that she has power. If anything, _you_ technically have more claim to the throne than she does and _she_ should be proposing marriage to _you_ for power; not the other way around.
With Anora’s husband, the legitimate Theirin King with Dragon’s Blood, dead and her being unable to produce any children at all with that royal blood for the throne, she no longer has any right to be ruling as a sovereign. If she at least had one child (just one) she could make the claim that she was ruling in that boy or girl’s name until they grew of age, but she had none at all.
Anora was only made royalty in the first place by marriage to the King’s Royal House, the Theirin family, but she herself possesses none of that royal blood in her at all. Her parents were both born as commoners, with her father being the son of a farmer and her mother from a family of craftsmen. So she herself is very new nobility and would have no right to simply jump ahead of all the other more ancient and powerful houses of Ferelden nobility. She was quite politically competent though and could still stay in the royal court to perhaps serve as a chancellor or advisor for the crown, but she can’t simply seize the crown out of nowhere for herself.
So setting Alistair aside, you as a Couseland, (or at least your older brother) would have far greater claim to the throne than Anora Mac Tir would, seeing as the Couselands are the oldest and most powerful noble house next to the royal house itself. Hell, even Arl Eamon would have more claim to throne than a Mac Tir would.
My point is she needs _you,_ the player, to act as the Kingmaker for her in order to have a chance at claiming any power at all. However, you don’t necessarily _need_ her for anything really because she simply has no power to actually leverage with, other than she‘ll “perhaps” give you her vote of confidence in front of the nobles, which you don’t actually need anyways.
Love Anora
Anora looks kinda cute and sweet in that thumbnail
me: aw man did i fuck this up, yep fucked it up. forgot to announce the marriage.
thebasscrss lol same I was too late also
wtf! what about!! alistar!! HOES BEFORE BROS!!
julie cox should have done her voice acting ... i would kill everyone to be with her
Loghain: Allow me to say that you have earned my respect Warden.
Me: F@$! you Loghain!!!
Wish Bioware had added a serious hostile remark dialogue option for The Warden to say at Loghain after he tells you that you've earned his so-called respect!!!
Marry Anora? She's an ice-cold b@$!# but quite the looker & she does seem to mellow a little in the later games as she appears to develop genuine feelings for her new royal spouse!!! Letting Loghain live??? HELL NO, NOT EVER!!! Thank goodness you can marry Anora without having to let that murdering hypocrite traitor father of her's live :)
+DragonHeart613 Yup. You can kill him dead, as long as it's not, well, *you* killing him dead.
Calm the fuck down.
Loghain respects strength and confidence, and that's exactly what it took to leave him alive against all opposition. This is simply his character.
If you hate him so much, don't let him live.
4 play through logain head rolls in all 1st time human noble second time dalish elf mage 3 playthrough dwarves 4th and final playthrough dalish elf rouge
I am pretty sure the maker is us. Wouldn't that be a twist?
interesting
By then he may have already left for the deep roads, but maybe not, or maybe you'll find him in the deep roads :) who knows.