Do you have the data for the percentage of live births from frozen embryo transfers only? I’m planning to do an FET with donated embryos this year, and I’m over 40, and I’m wondering what the general success rates are in those cases. Thanks!
Great question! These success rates are for all IVF cycles reported in 2020, so these outcomes include both IVF cycles that had genetic testing and cycles that did not test. About half of embryo transfers in 2020 included an embryo that had genetic testing. The CDC reported that for all ages, 48% of embryo transfer cycles included at least one embryos tested by PGT. It would be nice if they would provide the data in a more granular format so that we could compare but they lump all the success rates in together for this. I hope that's helpful!
May I ask, because I didn’t quite understand. Success rates for one cycle or cumulative? Or success rates over a year? Does it include frozen transfers? Does it include all embryos retrieved from one stimulation? Thank you for clarifying 😊
Good question! For the first two charts, the Live Birth Rate and the Singleton Live Birth Rate, these are cumulative for all IVF retrievals that occurred in one year. So these success rates are for all IVF retrievals that started in 2020 so the same woman may have done multiple egg retrievals in a year that would be included, however it's a very large data set (148,335 cycles). Calculating Live Birth Rate: this success rate counts how many babies were born per intended egg retrieval. So we're looking at whether the egg retrieval led to a baby, regardless of how many embryo transfers someone did from all the eggs they got from that one retrieval. So it's looking at number of babies born / number of intended egg retrievals x 100 to get the percentage. The CDC gives a good example for how the calculations are made: For example, if a clinic started 60 intended egg retrievals, and these resulted in 30 live-birth deliveries, the average live-birth delivery rate for intended retrievals would be 30 (live-birth deliveries) ÷ 60 (intended retrievals) = 0.5, or 50.0% of intended retrievals resulting in a live-birth delivery. These success rates include babies born from both fresh and frozen embryo transfers. Yes it would include all embryos transferred as it's looking at live births per stimulation regardless of how many transfers someone has done from that one cycle. Because the success rate is per cycle in this case, if someone did 3 embryo transfers from 1 IVF cycle and she got pregnant on the third, it would be counted as 1 live birth from 1 IVF retrieval cycle here. For the New Patient IVF Success Rates, that is looking at just the first IVF cycle for each patient and whether a pregnancy resulted from the first IVF cycle. So that would be looking at whether any of the embryo transfers from their first ever egg retrieval led to a live birth. I hope that makes sense!
@@fertilityspace may i ask one more question, if someone were to freeze her own eggs and decided not to thaw her eggs for any embryo transfers until years later. In this specific case, what metrics shall be looking at on Sart as a more relevant indicator? "live brith rates per additional frozen embryo transfer" or live birth rates per new patient/egg retrieval" (i feel the latter ones might be too general for specific situations)? recently, as I was doing my research on clinics, I found one clinic that has good success stats on " live brith per additional frozen embryo transfer " (hitting nearly 60%) , however the same clinic hits extremely low success rates on "live birth rates per new patient/ per egg retrieval " (around 18%) , how does that even possible? Meaning they are just good at thawing frozen embryos solely (not even from frozen eggs) ? or does that mean frozen embryos are considered easier to be operated ? Sorry , i'm just confused with those categories .. too complicated.. it will really help a lot if you could help me out here. Many thanks in advance!!
@@verayu9621 This is such a great question! Sifting through all the IVF data can be really confusing in cases like this. The reason these two success rates from the same clinic look so drastically different is that these success rates are looking at totally different stages of the IVF cycle. Live birth rate per egg retrieval is looking at the success rates from the start of the cycle all the way through to the end. So this metric includes all women that started an IVF cycle and looked at the outcome. Some of these women may have had to cancel their cycle partway, or didn’t retrieve any eggs, or no eggs fertilized, or no embryos developed, or had all abnormal embryos. Then other women may have done a fresh transfer of an embryo and it was abnormal and led to a failed cycle. So there are a lot of points at which an IVF cycle could have failed when looking at all women who started IVF from the point of egg retrieval. This makes the success rate lower but is more realistic if you’re starting an IVF cycle from the beginning because it takes into account all of the stages that need to go right. If you already have frozen embryos, then looking at the success rates per additional transfer makes more sense. These embryos, as they were frozen, have already made it to the point where the egg fertilized, the embryos developed normally, and many of these will have also been tested by PGT-A before transfer to confirm that they have the correct number of chromosomes. So this is one of those cases where the success rate would be higher because you’re much further down the chain of events before you start to look at the success rate. If you are at the point of getting embryos frozen and in many of these cases transferring a PGT-A normal embryo, then your chances are about 60% of having an embryo transfer lead to a live birth. If you have frozen eggs, I would still personally look at the live birth rate per egg retrieval because you’re still toward the start of the IVF process and there’s still attrition that’s going to happen from some eggs not fertilizing, some embryos not developing, and then some embryos being abnormal. So looking at the live birth rate per egg retrieval for the age that you were at the time of your egg freezing will give you the best information. Make sure you’e using the age category for how old you were when you froze the eggs, because the age of the eggs are more important for correlating success rates compared to how old you are when you do an embryo transfer. I hope this is helpful! It is so complicated so I hope that shed some light on how to navigate all the data!
This might help understand the breakdown of IVF cost: fertilityspace.io/blog/the-cost-of-ivf-in-2022 In the US it can depend on the clinic and the location you’re in but IVF can range from $18k-$25k typically. It’s best to reach out to clinics you’re interested in to get a breakdown of cost! You can use our clinic search to find clinics in different areas and contact them to get some more info: fertilityspace.io/search
Hi! Great question. Your cost will depend on whether medical insurance will cover any part of your treatment. Sometimes there is a diagnosis code that will work for your situation. If you are paying without insurance, the cost of IVF is usually around $20k - $25k depending on the clinic. The location also affects how much so it’s good to consult a couple clinics for their prices. I hope that’s helpful!
Do you have the data for the percentage of live births from frozen embryo transfers only? I’m planning to do an FET with donated embryos this year, and I’m over 40, and I’m wondering what the general success rates are in those cases. Thanks!
Are the success rates based on those that had or didn’t have genetic testing?
Great question! These success rates are for all IVF cycles reported in 2020, so these outcomes include both IVF cycles that had genetic testing and cycles that did not test. About half of embryo transfers in 2020 included an embryo that had genetic testing. The CDC reported that for all ages, 48% of embryo transfer cycles included at least one embryos tested by PGT. It would be nice if they would provide the data in a more granular format so that we could compare but they lump all the success rates in together for this. I hope that's helpful!
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May I ask, because I didn’t quite understand. Success rates for one cycle or cumulative? Or success rates over a year? Does it include frozen transfers? Does it include all embryos retrieved from one stimulation? Thank you for clarifying 😊
Good question! For the first two charts, the Live Birth Rate and the Singleton Live Birth Rate, these are cumulative for all IVF retrievals that occurred in one year. So these success rates are for all IVF retrievals that started in 2020 so the same woman may have done multiple egg retrievals in a year that would be included, however it's a very large data set (148,335 cycles).
Calculating Live Birth Rate: this success rate counts how many babies were born per intended egg retrieval.
So we're looking at whether the egg retrieval led to a baby, regardless of how many embryo transfers someone did from all the eggs they got from that one retrieval.
So it's looking at number of babies born / number of intended egg retrievals x 100 to get the percentage. The CDC gives a good example for how the calculations are made:
For example,
if a clinic started 60 intended egg retrievals,
and these resulted in 30 live-birth deliveries,
the average live-birth delivery rate for
intended retrievals would be 30 (live-birth
deliveries) ÷ 60 (intended retrievals) = 0.5,
or 50.0% of intended retrievals resulting in a
live-birth delivery.
These success rates include babies born from both fresh and frozen embryo transfers. Yes it would include all embryos transferred as it's looking at live births per stimulation regardless of how many transfers someone has done from that one cycle. Because the success rate is per cycle in this case, if someone did 3 embryo transfers from 1 IVF cycle and she got pregnant on the third, it would be counted as 1 live birth from 1 IVF retrieval cycle here.
For the New Patient IVF Success Rates, that is looking at just the first IVF cycle for each patient and whether a pregnancy resulted from the first IVF cycle. So that would be looking at whether any of the embryo transfers from their first ever egg retrieval led to a live birth.
I hope that makes sense!
@@fertilityspace yes, it absolutely makes sense! Thank you very much!
@@rheajoy4039 you're very welcome!
@@fertilityspace may i ask one more question, if someone were to freeze her own eggs and decided not to thaw her eggs for any embryo transfers until years later. In this specific case, what metrics shall be looking at on Sart as a more relevant indicator? "live brith rates per additional frozen embryo transfer" or live birth rates per new patient/egg retrieval" (i feel the latter ones might be too general for specific situations)? recently, as I was doing my research on clinics, I found one clinic that has good success stats on " live brith per additional frozen embryo transfer " (hitting nearly 60%) , however the same clinic hits extremely low success rates on "live birth rates per new patient/ per egg retrieval " (around 18%) , how does that even possible? Meaning they are just good at thawing frozen embryos solely (not even from frozen eggs) ? or does that mean frozen embryos are considered easier to be operated ? Sorry , i'm just confused with those categories .. too complicated.. it will really help a lot if you could help me out here. Many thanks in advance!!
@@verayu9621 This is such a great question! Sifting through all the IVF data can be really confusing in cases like this.
The reason these two success rates from the same clinic look so drastically different is that these success rates are looking at totally different stages of the IVF cycle.
Live birth rate per egg retrieval is looking at the success rates from the start of the cycle all the way through to the end. So this metric includes all women that started an IVF cycle and looked at the outcome. Some of these women may have had to cancel their cycle partway, or didn’t retrieve any eggs, or no eggs fertilized, or no embryos developed, or had all abnormal embryos. Then other women may have done a fresh transfer of an embryo and it was abnormal and led to a failed cycle. So there are a lot of points at which an IVF cycle could have failed when looking at all women who started IVF from the point of egg retrieval. This makes the success rate lower but is more realistic if you’re starting an IVF cycle from the beginning because it takes into account all of the stages that need to go right.
If you already have frozen embryos, then looking at the success rates per additional transfer makes more sense. These embryos, as they were frozen, have already made it to the point where the egg fertilized, the embryos developed normally, and many of these will have also been tested by PGT-A before transfer to confirm that they have the correct number of chromosomes. So this is one of those cases where the success rate would be higher because you’re much further down the chain of events before you start to look at the success rate. If you are at the point of getting embryos frozen and in many of these cases transferring a PGT-A normal embryo, then your chances are about 60% of having an embryo transfer lead to a live birth.
If you have frozen eggs, I would still personally look at the live birth rate per egg retrieval because you’re still toward the start of the IVF process and there’s still attrition that’s going to happen from some eggs not fertilizing, some embryos not developing, and then some embryos being abnormal. So looking at the live birth rate per egg retrieval for the age that you were at the time of your egg freezing will give you the best information.
Make sure you’e using the age category for how old you were when you froze the eggs, because the age of the eggs are more important for correlating success rates compared to how old you are when you do an embryo transfer.
I hope this is helpful! It is so complicated so I hope that shed some light on how to navigate all the data!
Any data for women using donor eggs?
Yes! Check out our video on IVF Success Rates using Donor Eggs: ua-cam.com/video/LT0NKcxLXi0/v-deo.html
Hope that’s helpful! 💕
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This might help understand the breakdown of IVF cost: fertilityspace.io/blog/the-cost-of-ivf-in-2022
In the US it can depend on the clinic and the location you’re in but IVF can range from $18k-$25k typically.
It’s best to reach out to clinics you’re interested in to get a breakdown of cost!
You can use our clinic search to find clinics in different areas and contact them to get some more info: fertilityspace.io/search
If person doesnt have problem getting pregnant, just want to do IFV just to choose the gender?? How much is it??
Hi! Great question. Your cost will depend on whether medical insurance will cover any part of your treatment. Sometimes there is a diagnosis code that will work for your situation. If you are paying without insurance, the cost of IVF is usually around $20k - $25k depending on the clinic. The location also affects how much so it’s good to consult a couple clinics for their prices. I hope that’s helpful!
We used Ingenes, it was $25k for three rounds. Financing is available and an easy approval
@@DillinghamVeronica wow that's expensive 😳 I just wanted for choice of gender.