Exploring Dark Bramble!
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- Опубліковано 15 бер 2021
- Hello everyone! Weve visited just about everywhere is the solar system. But now, we have to take a trip to Dark Bramble. A interdimensional plant with attacker fish! Hope you enjoy it!
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Going to each planet for the first time was unforgettable
Coming from Subnautica (and being a complete thalassophobe), I was thoroughly horrified by Giant's Deep when I accidentally hit the undertow cyclone upon my first time exploring the planet.
@@jharju2352 that’s awesome
Finding feldspar accidentally was really awesome for me. My ship was cut in half by an anglerfish but got hurled away and accidentally found him.
@@pancho7776 That is pretty badass, gotta say.
@@jharju2352 thanks!
The first thing I did in the game after getting to my ship was go to the seed on Timber Hearth. Once I was told about the nature of Bramble Seeds I thought the game moght have been about trying to stop the seed from destroying TH. So I shot the scout in the seed and went straight to Bramble, where I learned that there was much more to explore in this solar system.
Spoilers:
Before the first supernova, I was sad at first that TH was going the way that DB original planet did, torn apart by the seed at some point in the future. Little did I know the fate that would befall TH and the rest of the planets, would be much more depressing.
My favorite is also dark bramble. I lovee attempting to outrun the 3 front anglerfish in the nest
I literally have nightmares about dark bramble and being eaten by those angler fish.
Well, hopefully next time you dream about it it'll be in a plant pot and real small. You can smoosh it with your foot!
Real asf
Dark bramble gives me ptsd
I just realized, if the seeds on different planets lead inside dark bramble, then the inside of dark bramble is probably not even in this solar system!
Yep! It's very low chance of it actually being there. Oddly enough, it may even lead to its own pockets of space, somehow completely out of the universe. Our little scout is not able to locate us in time and space while inside.
@@TheLoreExplorer i thought this too! but one thing to note: the supernova still reaches it.
@@lunaponta594 Also to note: the Ash Twin Project considers you're still in the Outer Wilds Solar System and you retain your memories in it instead of the loop "cutting early", although it may just be that you're not far enough from their sun by shortest route (like your scout is only a few hundred meters/ few kilometers away if it's in Bramble and you're right out of the planet) and thus the mental link to your statue is still strong enough
@@TheLoreExplorer OTOH when you exit any seed, you end up right out of dark bramble, so why would it be that way if you were somewhere else?
@@DidierLoiseau I also think it is still there. Because Dark Bramble is the "big seed". But there are probably also connections to different systems inside its roots and potentially seeds too.
Great video as always. I feel like the Sun Station is possibly the most memorable moment of the game. I really like the job Andrew Prahlow did with the music as you first float across that 'bridge'. He captures both the epicness and horror of drifting above the sun. Realising that the sun was doomed was also a melancholy experience, but in a good way.
7:07 The seed is inside itself?! Jeez no wonder I got so lost. It's a good thing you learn tricks like following a scout signal and your signalscope.
people always say that the dark bramble is the scariest spot in the game. but I disagree. I think that the interloper is the scariest because of how disturbing it is when you figure out the lore. When I finally figured out how to land on it I didn't even realize you could go in it. I figured there'd be stuff in the spikes like a chert log or something and that was it. but I fell into the interior on the rocky side and found the core. I always enjoyed seeing the interloper but every time I saw it after that was disturbing. it held the corpses of two nomai and thing that killed those nomai inside of it for so long without me realizing. it's disturbing on a level that anglerfish jumpscares will never reach.
I don't think the anglerfish in the observatory is a baby. I think it's a male anglerfish. The in-game anglerfish are strikingly similar to the real life ones. So maybe the museum angler is a male one that hasn't attached to a female yet.
Well males don't have dangly-doos
@@lbjworm ?
@@feldsar the light lol
@@lbjworm I did say similar, not the same.
Or maybe some space warping mess stuff
13:21 I feel the exact same way. Starting this game and learning the time loop ends with a horrible disaster, your first thought is, avert the disaster. Then you learn that's not possible, sadness and dispair.
Can't believe I never thought to reverse-engineer that vine path. If I can use it to get out, I can use it to get in. The game is full of shortcuts like that that range from handy to critical to beat some puzzles.
I mean, it's DB, it's not entirely crazy to assume that "if you can get out, you can get in there" isn't necessarily true.
Dark Bramble is one of my favorite planets. Mostly because of how challenging it is to move around in Dark Bramble.
Also wanted to say, that Elsinore easter egg you show in this area, was actually how I first found your channel!! It blew my mind lol and I knew I had to follow your awesome content since then.
I’ve always thought that the size of the Angler on Timber Hearth was because multiple Anglers hatch from one egg, so think that one of those spaceship sized eggs hatching dozens and dozens of tiny little Anglers that all grow to the regular abnormally large size
This is my favorite game of all time, and your deep dives into the game's lore and environments bring back those incredible feelings of exploration. Thank you!
Dark bramble is quite the planet. And it breaks the rules of space so… even more terrifying.
I think the anglerfish eggs have lots of anglerfish inside them that’s why they are so big
I played this game with my father and then I later gifted the game to my best friend. He played it and sent me his thoughts and reactions, and we both get PTSD flashbacks whenever we see or think of anglerfish.
Just wanted to say its dope that you're still making content for this game, I think you're pretty much the only creator on youtube still doing that!
The baby fish size in the museum does seem a bit strange, but I kinda figured that maybe the huge size of the anglers can be attributed to the special nature of Dark Bramble itself. Like, if they try to leave for extended periods of time, they can shrink and die.
It's a really fascinating ecosystem concept. After all, Dark Bramble spreads all on its own to other planets, and those planets are included as part of Dark Bramble. So anything living in that ecosystem wouldn't ever need to leave - everything would just come to it.
It is definitely a fascinating concept. But we sort of know it to be untrue about the anglers. We can find a fully grown skeleton of an angler on ember twin. Also, we don't shrink or grow when we enter as some people suggest. We are at the same scale in the escape pods both in and out of bramble.
@@TheLoreExplorer Well it's all speculation based on their weird physiology as spacefaring fish. But I did have a thought earlier that maybe those massive eggs just give birth to many tiny fish, which is a scary thought lol
I remember my first time going to Dark Bramble. I blew up my ship, went in with half fuel, found feldspar, and died by touching his ship.
Truly amazing.
I see a lot of people say Dark Bramble scared them the most, but I just find it fascinating. Don't get me wrong, there's no way in hell I'd get near something like that in real life, but Giant's Deep creeped me out so much more
God I remember throughout my many expeditions through dark bramble I kept going through the red node and seeing those red spheres just floating around. I was always so confused as to what they were but I still remember the day were I took a closer look at them and realised.
Oh sh*t those are angler fish eggs!
You mean planet *Nope* ?
Oh yea, it’s a delight.
I was so afraid of Giant's Deep (thalassophobia) that I kept fear quitting when getting near it and didn't think too much of Dark Bramble, when I first started. But no. No, Dark Bramble was what eventually got me, it scares me so much I can't even play it haha. Horror games? No prob. Dark Bramble? Hell no.
I never finished the game, because I took 35h to go on Giant's Deep (I still can't go in the water), and I could never manage going on Dark Bramble
The fact that this video Has dislike makes me sick, like who would dislike it Its So good
Great video as always!
I just found something, if you go to the eye of the universe and wait long enough in the vessel then you can see the sun explode from a bit further away and eventually all the stars will be gone too
Yep! The community knows about that! It was in one of my earlier videos! Thanks for letting me know though!
It's interesting to note that the bramble seed that escape pod 3 came across when following the vessel's signal is still a seed for us, some 300,000 years later. That gives some indication of how slowly the brambles grow, and how long ago the first seed in this system must have landed on the ice planet.
Given that in the owlks imagery of our system, the ice planet is not yet bramblefied, that also gives us a sense of just how long ago they arrived in our system.
r/thisisdeep
Man, they really just sat in a simulation of 6 houses for at least a million years
@@Koopkiris I'd say... 9 million?
when I saw the nomai spacesuit helmets on the ground, I thought they were little rovers. The back looked like two wheels.
Never did make sense to me why the fronts looked exactly like the space suits
3:30 am I correct to understand that there's a shortcut to Feldspar's location in the south pole? You can find a jellyfish there and get through it inside the vine where Feldspar's ship crashed?
There is a path where the jellyfish is. Find and follow the path and that'll lead you right to feldspar!
I actually discovered it the other way around. If you ask Feldspar how he reached Giant Deep's core, he'll say it's a secret, but we should check out the hollow vine
Imagine having a tiny dark bramble plant in your house. I'd use it for storage since it's bigger on the inside. Hopefully my stuff doesn't float away though.
Bout that they would I'm pretty sure
I felt immediate relief when I learned that the sun was dying naturally and that the Supernova was not triggered by Nomai technological hubris.
I wonder if the anglers eat what wanders into the seeds wherever it lands and die to become compost for the whole interdimensional plant
The fish are life, that's great. :)
nerves of steal and patience for days is about all you need
I know this is really late, but the ice around the White Hole Station could be polar ice from Brittle Hollow. In an attempt to protect as many Nomai lives as possible, they took precautions before anything and built the teleportation station on Brittle Hollow and then excavated it, and let it drop into the black hole.
I thought it said "exploding" and I was pretty happy tbh
I love how he said in todays loop at the beginning lol
im confused how the nomai got stuck in dark bramble. after entering a seed leaving that seed will put you outside of dark bramble.
I assumed that when the Nomai Vessel warped into dark bramble, it warped literally *into* the bramble, like a teleportation accident
Mod idea: an alteration to the lore where the 2 other pods DID fire and landed on giants deep and timber hearth
i dont know if most people know this but the nomai names are plants and the harthians are rocks
my hands get so sweaty any time I come here.... so scary
One idea could be that a single anglerfish egg doesn’t contain just one baby anglerfish
I feel at home there now lol
What I’ve always wondered is why Dark Bramble’s vines don’t attack the player. What happened to the Vessel implies that they are able to move quickly, but we the player never see them move. Maybe they only react to large bodies, and our ship is too small for them to react to? Idk
I think the Vessel just teleported INTO vines
@@ultrafun2227 it did plus the vines don't move except with the vines at the eggs their reaching for them
my favorite planet because it is just so interesting and scary. time to load the game up now lol
How do I explore when the only lights could just suddenly come alive and chomp me?
U have to not move. The angler fish hear well but are blind
Very slowly and with your head on a swivel lol
I still haven’t Beaten the game because of dark bramble
It's not THAT bad lol. They are only pixels. It's worth going through to experience the ending for yourself.
I’d suggest waiting to do Below Zero until full release, at least. Considering they only just finished their whole story rewrite thing, I doubt anything is really set in stone yet, and it’s still very buggy with lots of changes going on. Maybe you could cover the original subnautica more in preparation?
Reading the latest update it says the release date is may 14th. I totally misremembered it as march. Youre right. still too early to represent the full release.
Is it possible to recreate feldspar's trip through dark bramble? By that i mean full throttle and still avoid the fish and get to where he is.
It is! By exploiting some jank geometry on the roof of some of the seeds, you can get the fish stuck on each other, allowing you to past!
Made it without cheating, but all that's left for me is completing the 2 parts of Dark Bramble I've found and I've waisted weeks with no progress, so I'm here.
just realized the bramble seeds are so powerful they can even take out the massive angler fish...
a seedy place (: full of terrifying angler fish that will eat you alive if you move.
A seedy place. Love it. Wish I thought of it lol
10:47 the ice was just where it was constructed, out of a fallen piece of the poles.
I'm pretty sure the intended exploration pattern of Dark Bramble with respect to Feldspar is the opposite of what you described. If you follow the signalscope for Feldspar into Dark Bramble you will find him eventually after several trips inside seeds, and he'll tell you where his ship is and that you should explore the hollow vine near it if you want to learn how to get all the way to the core of Giant's Deep. The way you described exploring doesn't make sense with the dialog I got; did you have different dialog that was consistent with your exploration, or did you not pay attention?
Mhmm. I found Feldspar the same way you did. So no. I didnt get different dialogue. But this way is giving players a path to Feldspar in which they dont need to encounter anglers and do all that extra nonsense. If I didnt present it as such it wouldnt be realized by all. Either way. Feldspar will still have all the dialogue choices available if you visit the jellyfish and follow the path. I forget if you can confront them about having ate a jellyfish.
... OHMYGOD! I just realized an implication about the Nomaï statues in the Sun Station:
We know the Nomaï are a very eco-friendly species, that would try anything to preserve an ecosystem's balance. And the Sun Station's purpose went against all that, but was considered a necessary evil.
WHAT IF the Sun Station's statues' purpose was to connect to Pye and Idaea once the probe had found the Eye (or if there was an issue with the Eye Finding Plan) so they would *not* fire into the sun, since they already got the coordinates (or there is an issue with the loop), both force-shutting down the Ash Twin Project by cutting the power supply *and* protecting the system and allowing it to live its intended lifetime.
(I mean, it may cause a paradox, I guess? but to be entirely fair I don't think this universe's physics ruleset cares much about paradoxes except for impossible duplication)
Edit: To be clear, I'm mostly connecting the "Do No Evil" philosophy of the Nomaï.
No paradox. Devs have stated the nomai plan wouldn’t create that. And yea. There were two statues in the sun station. And It was always the nomais plan to shut down the sun station after they received the eyes coordinates.
Whenever i approach dark bramble, the lights look like pupils lookimg at me
I will never forgive dark bramble.
just thought about it. what if the angler that attached to the landing gear wasn't a baby, but a full grown angler and they are only bigger inside the bramble?
Hmmm no I don't think so sense with ember twin
wait... there were five escape pods? how did you find that?
flying around the vessel and seeing two left on it
The interloper?
This has always been the weirdest planet.
6:19 There might be a lot of babies angler fish in just one egg
Kill them with fire ALL OF THEM MUST BURN
I believe you are correct but that means what would they do if they hatched and we were around?
well, until the anglerfish meet the Flood....
dark bramble is the first place i went 😭😭
Mine was hollows lantern
Suggestion: Align the nomai text translation to your voice in the intro (The part where you say, "Hello everyone, I am the Lore Explorer, and this is Outer Wilds.) Apart from that your channel has great content!
The vines be like: *WE ATTACK AT DAWN BROTHERS* 6:37
I found felsdpad by following the signals of my scout i shotee trought the seed in timber
Feldspar rules dude
gotta need vr for the game
I know that I am using knowledge from echoes of the eye visions, but didn't the Nomai Vessel just teleport ontop the bramble's vines?
I mean that it was the Nomai that accidentally did the damage themselves when they landed and not Bramble attacking their Vessel(because as we have seen the bramble is not spreading/moving all that fast in game, the Nomai would have seen it coming otherwise ).
Its hard to say. We werent there to see it. We are depicting to the prisoner what we know through second hand knowledge. Its not scene for scene shots of in universe past events. Like , the nomai didnt land. Build a few buildings. And then die from ghost matter. That was just a way to depict to the prisoner what was happening.
The Nomai vessel was able to fire 3 out of five of the escape pods it had. The nomai needed time to get there and board the escape pods. Then they needed some time for them to actually launch. If all the damage was done by the initial warp , like we see in the vision , it doesnt make much sense that 3 could fire. But then the vessel loses power and the last two couldnt. Especially since we know the escape pods themselves werent damaged. The ship just lost power.
At the very least the vessel teleported directly into the space inhabited by brambles vines(not on top). And somehow the damage got worse over time. If we take into consideration the alpha , in which bramble was a big ball of actively moving vines. And the mural the nomai depict of bramble reaching out to grab an escape pod. We can start to make sense of why the damage may have gotten worse over time. But we just dont know for sure.
@@TheLoreExplorer Well I can fathom more than a few reasons why the other pods didn't launch from simple mechanical failure ,to the branches being in the way making it impossible to launch or perhaps because the initial "crash" killed/injured more than a few of the nomai who wouldn't be wearing their suits during the crash thus being exposed to the vaccum of space(and we also know that in comparison to the Herthians the Nomai were rather fragile).
As for the Murals, well most of the Nomai were startled and disoriented by the event, it's not uncommon to overstate depictions of traumatic events in order to make sense of them, the murals depiction might have been just that a hypothesis/overdramatization of what happened, and also a good deterant to stop younger Nomai from going back in the dangerous Dark bramble in search of the Vessel.
(as a side note the Nomai also don't seem to have much info recored on Dark Bramble other than the info they have on Anglerfish and in my opinion that shows that they didn't delve much into the bramble out of fear history might repeat itself).
And the Alpha well it's just the Alpha, in your own videos you've showcased how many story/lore points were removed (or contradicted current lore like hollow's lantern) hence no longer part of actual lore.
Now I am not saying that my hypothesis is true beyond the shadow of a doubt,because well it's just that ,a hypothesis(only the devs could answer that...if they wanted), but I do believe it has some merit.
But we can go look at it. The escape pods are in tact and nothing is blocking them. And its stated they didnt fire because the vessel lost power. This could simply be due to the fact that the warp rook up most of the power. We just dont know. And yes. The alpha is just that. But as a whole , it seems like bramble does move in some sense. The seed that fell on timber put down roots in an instant. Whether or not thats what caused this , we dont know. But , yes , the idea has merit.
@@TheLoreExplorer
Sorry to bother you again,but I was watching someone elses playthrough(as one does when they've finished the game) and saw some info that kinda reafirms what I've said about the Vessel warping exactly on top of the vines instead of the vines attacking the Vessel.
I am not trying to be correct, I just thought you might find this intresting as the lore explorer.
In the Vessel, there is an attempt from a Nomai called Filix from Escall's Vessel to contact the other Clans for help and also comments on the situation
Here is what it says word for word.
FILIX: "Our Vessel appears to have... has it fused with the local enviroment, somehow? There are vines that are now part of the Vessel! It's been torn appart from the inside itself!".
Indeed that’s interesting. Thanks for letting me know.
I feel wrong. As if I'm an hour late.
The reason the one angler fish is so small is because it left out of a small seed, while the other anglers left out of the large main seed
Didn't it come out of the main entrance when a ship flew past it and it lached on?
The size of the anglerfish depends on how deep their node of origin was. The deeper you go, the bigger the node gets. An anglerfish coming out the seed on Timber Heart would be the same size as the one in the museum.
This logic does sort of add up in regards to what its supposed to be. But we sort of know it to be untrue. The way in which we found that angler fish(at the museum) was after it had just exited the brambles main node(where the planet is). It somehow clung onto one of our astronauts landing legs and made its way to timber with their spaceship. Also embers angler skeleton seems to be in odds with this.
Are Anglerfish somehow immune to Ghost Matter? I just realized they all should have died.
We dont find any ghost matter in dark bramble. Its hard to know why but maybe the ice surrounding it and the fog inside nullified it.
@@TheLoreExplorer We known ghost matter doesn't affect anything in water. The fog could actual fog - water droplets suspended in zero G. This would pretty much nullify all and every effect of the ghost matter.
Except we don’t know why water “nullifies” it. Logically the water would simply push out the gm gasses from the area. And prevent more from forming. In other words volume wise there is nowhere for the gm to go. Or it could be some chemical reaction that renders it safe. The answer would all depend on actually finding out what it is and how it works. Which we can’t lol.
My son got eaten by a fish he never saw behind him the first time he went to bramble. He literally was just like 🤷🏻♂️ uhhhhh what happened.
He literally could not figure out what killed him. Poison? Plants? Crushed by pressure? Did the planet eat me? Dad did the planet just eat me???
Me: uhhhhhhhhhh kinda....
dark bramble is a popcorn
You found feldspar backwards all that stuff was supposed to happen after 😂
In this video Im just exploring everything we find there.
Like train
Video on control
Wait so humans do exist in the outer wilds universe?
Its not really confirmed. I think most of the fan base sees it as an easter egg to another game and not a legit lore thing.
@@TheLoreExplorer oh ok
I've always thought the anglerfish were a bit weird considering they have nothing to hunt for the most part. Unless they eat their young and the young feed off of the bramble?
We aren’t shown everything in game though. Even though we don’t see them. We have fish in our rivers on timber hearth. So who knows what they have to munch on.
@@TheLoreExplorer Hm, fair I guess!
Yo family please hit me back on discord!!!! Would love to get you on the gamers blog and help share the show!!!! Been so long since we talked it’s amazing to see your growth!!!!!
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what are these subtitles
I think subtitles are automated now. Whats wrong with them?
they dont make sense
1.2 Km is tiny
Not in universe, it isnt.
@@TheLoreExplorer yeah, it is
All the planets are super small, dark bramble may be the biggest of them but calling a 1.2km planet big is just absurd
its absurd when you try to compare them to real life planets i suppose. but everything is relative. and in this universe, 1.2km is big.
Sorry. That was worded wrong. I meant when comparing the figures it becomes absurd. Not that you wanting to compare the two was absurd
you could have avoided this. come on man
I still hate dark branbel