I am a convert from Presbyterianism to a small town Novus Ordo parish. The first time I walked into an SSPX church, I was in CHURCH. It was like being transported back in time. Suddenly, the ENTIRE faith made sense. 100% UNAPOLOGETICALLY ROMAN CATHOLIC.
Thanks to Covid this 50 year old cradle Catholic missed mass and met a neighbor who had just attended St. Therese (SSPX). I was overwhelmed with the amount of children and families at this incredible beautiful mass in the outside Grado. The next week I went to the Holy Name Jesus Academy run by the Dominican mothers and brought my 14-year-old daughter who said after mass “Did I just going to heaven“? Within a week she was a member of the other girls school for only $250 a month in tuition! 30 Latin, Greek, French, Catholicism, Gregorian chant along with math, science. Both of our faith have grown exponentially and it was the best Easter ever!
Seriously -- see if you can find an Eastern Rite church near you. Melkites are relatively common. They use the OLD ORIGINAL liturgy, from about 400 AD! Same as Orthodoxy uses. It is STUNNING.
I was very blessed to find an SSPX community 2 hours away. I am going to attend as often as I can. Praying for all the traditional priests and communities.
I am so pleased too we found SSPX 1 hour away from us. Every Sunday we make an effort to attend TLM. My husband was converted to Catholic he find TLM he feels more blessed than modernist Mass. Praise to thee Lord Jesus Christ. Amen
Pope Francis gave authority to local bishops to approve the TLM in their dioceses, not stopping the TLM to be prayed... The TLM still can be done, by the authority given by Pope Francis to all Bishops... smh...
I am Kenyan and I started going to Latin mass last year during covid. I learnt about it through UA-cam I was like what is this absolutely breathtaking mass!? It’s THE BEST EXPRESSION OF FAITH. IN LOVE. Deo Gratias
I'm with the FSSP and have been somewhat critical of the SSPX. Now I understand that the SSPX were not being schismatic but rather were holding fast to the traditions of the church. Archbishop Lefebvre will someday be made a Saint. All of us in the FSSP acknowledge that God has preserved the Mass of all ages through his courage.
Yes! I have been following this saga since the early-1970's and I have been saying all along that if it hadn't been for Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre "sacrificing himself" by consecrating those four bishops in 1988 and suffering the consequences, the FSSP would never have been created by the subsequent 1988 document and there would be no FSSP. I marveled at people like the late Mother Angelica of EWTN fame who was openly critical of the Society of St, Pius X when she was essentially biting the hand that fed her any Tradition that her religious community had.
We love you FSSP and we understand the lack of courage when the Brothers split, a very human thing. Utter trust and now fulfilment in what Saint Marcel was saying. He could only have been instructed by Holy Spirit. He was rubber stamped in a secret meeting with Padre Pio who I believe was asked and assuredly blessed Marcel +
If one "Pope" can overturn what another has decreed, even whilst the past pontiff is alive , what is to stop future popes changing and issuing a new Moto propio to over ride the existing one? Is the Catholic Church able to change its nature, liturgy, prayers with every change of Pope - at his whim and fancy ? Ridiculous state of affairs.
Interesting how he rejects the term "Vicar of Christ" , but does utilize the "authority" of having the final say as the "Pope" in his teaching capacity. We are blessed that the local bishop here where I reside allows the Latin Mass Society to continue and have the Latin Mass in The Church ~ We will not be shuffled off into a hall or side chapel~ We are even staffed and given priests from The Society of St. Peter in California when we need their help. The line is drawn here now and the veil of deceit and Modernism is lifted. People need to wake up here and pray unceasingly for the Pope~
Time to come back to Orthodoxy. The world needs nothing more than an Orthodox Pope of Rome in communion with his brothers in the East. Infallibility rest with the Holy Spirit in His Church, not with one chair of Peter.
The Pope can't do this and l believe arch bishop Roche signed the document as Francis is in hospital...This the action of a devious man ,Francis knows he can't do this so he got somebody else to sign. How can a pope remove a mass that was canonized by a saint and a pope ? This man is a pope in name only. He is setting up the one world godless church and l will not follow him. He needs our prayers!!!!! Lge
I am so grateful to have discovered the SSPX! I live near their seminary in Virginia and am able to attend the Mass of the ages. What a gem, what a treasure! Thank you SSPX!!!!! God bless and grow you!
I discovered them during Covid! So blessed to have a small country church only a half an hour away. Plus the Holy Name Jesus Academy an all girls boarding school run by the Dominican mothers. My 14-year-old daughter went to her first mass and said “Mom, did I just go to Heaven?”
They never abbondoned the faithful during lockdown,we know by the fruits,that this order which is legitimate thanks to pope benadict will grow, because of the trials of the order, they would have Masse's in hotel rooms,rented appartments,etc,in America the fire service let's them use halls,in the stations building,so much respect for them they don't cower away,and said no we won't be shutting churches instead we will be opining them, we'll done sspx,we faithful should gift this society,with a shower of blessings from the faith full,god is pleased with them!
Haha 😂😂😂 Ah, many a truth is spoken in jest. (You've never really worshipped at an NO mass until you've seen Srs. Mary Boom-boom and Margaret Cat-Lady in their purple leotards liturgically dancing before the altar during The Offertory.)
Nothing new! This has been happening already for the better part of the last 50 years! Pray and do penance that proper reverence returns before too long! Oremus!
@@roseannenorman7129 if you want to see girls dancing in churches go to Ireland. The country is Heathen. In Knock Bishops and Priests sat down watching the Laity distribute communion. It means they have abandoned their religious duties but still get paid . Robbers really.
@@markwest1963 I'd like to answer that, if I may? I think I perhaps should be grateful to Pope Francis for forcing my eyes open. I had left the Church because it felt completely bland, unspiritual, and deadish, as if essential things were missing from it. Then Pope Francis took this drastic step to slowly crush and end whatever is left of the Traditional Mass. What he did felt wrong in light of the wrongs that Pope Francis himself refuses to prohibit, and the fact that Pope Francis himself is allowing the worship of other religions (Hindu religion, Pachamama) inside the Church, not to mention his shocking friendliness to totalitarian systems which are atheist and imprison and kill people who try to worship. I feel as if I had been the last one to know there were traditional Masses going on anywhere. Maybe I wasn't the last one, but it sure felt that way. I had never noticed any, and no one ever told me anything about them. I also didn't know a group such as SSPX existed. I didn't know these things until Pope Francis took those steps a few days ago against the traditional Mass, and I began to ask myself questions and look for the answers. I need to find an SSPX Mass to start attending.
I don’t attend the Latin Mass, I don’t know the order of its rites, but I know it is the original form of the Mass and was the original form until Vatican II. I’m surprised to find myself almost angry that the Latin Mass is being suppressed like this by Pope Francis. I don’t understand why the celebration of the Latin Mass is more concerning than the nonsense happening in Germany at the moment with those bishops. It is more important to uphold Church doctrine than to make the Church more progressive. Making the Church progressive is what is dividing the Church, not the celebration of centuries’ old traditions.
I would still remain Catholic. My parish just has the Novus Ordo Mass, but the parishioners who attend have great respect for the Eucharist. Many of the women wear veils as well.
@@jamesstuart6282 Actually it would more properly be the Eastern rites. Granted I've heard some of them have been tampered with as well and there is at least some pressure on the rest ATM. Not sure of any details on this though.
I agree aith you. I did not grow up knowing about the latin mass, i never heard of it until I was around my 30s. But I find myself drawn to it. It did made me feel disappointed with the Pope with this decision,. It broke the catholic community more than unified them. The move is more political than spiritual that’s why i was upset about hearing that too.
I am not a Catholic, but even I can see that Pope Francis has got this seriously wrong. It is likely that, in the process of trying to 'fix' something, he will have ended up breaking it. I will be praying that all traditional Catholics are once again give freedom of worship and this mistaken directive is rescinded very soon!
I’ve seen analysis that likens this MP pitting the two rites against each other to the sacrifices of Cain & Abel. Cain’s sacrifice was not pleasing to God. In a jealous rage, filled with envy, resentment & hatred, Cain, the elder, murdered his brother. Sobering.
@@Cookies_and_Catholicism Byzantine Catholic Church, Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church, Melkite Catholic Church, Romanian Byzantine Catholic Church, Syro-Malankara Catholic Church, Syro-Malabar Catholic Church. These can be found near most major metropolitan areas.
Occasionally I go but I am Latin Rite, my parents helped found a Byzantine Catholic Church in early 90s as a refuge for us but we left to go to the TLM
i would still go, but after. pastor openly promoted shots, and majority of parishioners puts science before supernatural life..i bowed out... now attend the sspx..and no talk. of shots, etc... also holy water available ..no social distancing. etc..faith over fear
Ty, Fr. Robinson. Very painful time: Baptized in 1948, and went to Catholic school. It's be hard since Vatican II. Currently, widowed and no job but I will continue to support the Sacred Mass.
Thank you Fr Robinson! May our dear Lord bless and protect you so you may continue His work for the salvation of souls. Praying for you and of course for Holy Mother Church from Australia 🙏🏻
A Catholic youtuber that I won't name has said that the SSPX is "gloating" about us "bootlickers" over here and laughing at our "obedience:- obviously placing the SSPX in a very bad light. In contrast, what I actually hear from this SSPX priest is brotherly compassion and concern for us. It's heartwarming.
As a 60 year old SSPX Third order member, my heart aches for the sufferings of any Catholic. We know how TLM Catholics feel because we have been persecuted for decades. Choosing apparent disobedience to men in order to obey God and keep the Faith has always been painful. Christ was persecuted by the clergy...
The modern Mass with poor homily, a worship that allows women access to the Tabanacle, where women are allowed to give communion, allow alter girls, allow to receive communication on the hand. A Pope who does not understand our Lord Jesus, the Holy Sea filled with men that worship themselves, a church infiltrated with heresy, a Pope who thinks James Martin is a St..... Our Lady will not permit these evil to carry on. I ask all faithful Catholics to ask for the intercession of Our Blessed Lady.
@Attracta the only good that has come out of letting girls altar serve, at least at my parish, is that being an altar server as a woman has helped me increase my devotion to the Eucharist. It also drove me to start discerning religious life. Thank you for your comments though.
This is in the Bible in the book of Daniel and in the Apocalypse. The faith will be taken lightly and start to wither, to ultimately be replaced by illegitimate authorities who will establish the abomination in the altar and the Lord will not be there anymore. We are sadly right on the way for that.
@@ede-jomadden8182 no one "projects" anything when it comes to the Lord. The holy mass and sacraments were established by God since the beginning. Everything has its way and it is not "your" way.
Our faith is based upon 3pillars: Scripture, TRADITION & Magisterium. In 1984 and 1988 PopeJPII put out Moto Proprios; this is a continuation of his work.
@@franklim6329 the Latin Mass which produced countless Saints for nearly 1500 years and existed BEFORE THE NO is causing disunity? The NO and TLM which came before it, celebrated by the Church for hundreds of years are NOT THE SAME.
@@franklim6329 if you actually read the comments above no one is saying Archbishop Lefebvre is our Lord and Saviour. What people are saying is that he preserved that Latin liturgy. Big difference.
I will send my support for the mass I attend. The TLM is probably the most beautiful thing this side of heaven. I have been to many a Novos Ordo mass that I thought was a mockery of reverence. I refuse to go back to that. Some of those masses have been called “ clown masses” and they were that. No. Sorry the new mass is the ship wreck of the Catholic Church.
I’m so heartbroken. I have stopped going to the NO church next door (literally) and only watch the Traditional Latin Mass online as I’m nowhere near a TLM parish…
Ironic that in the Novus Ordo church all religions are accepted and welcomed according to religious freedom, and yet the Traditional Latin Mass has its freedom taken away.
The Holy Ghost may be with the Latin Mass, but how do we reconcile this with various contemporary Apparitions ,which are not approved, but seem to be correct, that state " do not abandon My Son in the Tabernacles of the world ".
And the bizzare things from this pontificate only seem to be accelerating as of lately, pretty much since Bergoglio allowed the Pachamama rituals in the Vatican gardens. In a way, the current pontificate reminds me of some horror ghost film in which the main characters move into a new house and then certain little events start happening, which at first the family just scoffs at, but then as time goes by, the haunting activity starts getting worse and worse and increasing in intensity, until the family can’t handle it on their own anymore and seek intervention (hopefully, in the form of an exorcist). I believe we are soon reaching that point in the Church. We should pray so that there is Divine intervention to come and rescue the Church from her hijackers, and soon.
It seems "rigid" better describes Francis than anyone else. Makes no sense except just using his power to get rid of traditional mass because, why? Because the Church is only growing because of the TLM...Maybe he doesn't want the Church to grow?
"Maybe he[Francis] doesn't want the Church to grow?" I try to avoid conspiracy theories, but always recall the words of Arthur Conan Doyle: "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth." So, I think you are onto something. Francis, I speculate, wants the Church to grow but, believes the TLM will cause the Church to grow in the "wrong" direction. Before Francis is Pope, Catholic or even Christian, Francis is a leftist, and the universal belief of every leftist who ever drew breath is that heaven on earth can be created if only we discover the right formula, which is a kind of gnosticism. The NO, with its man-centredness, promotes this, and although making the world a better place is a very worthy goal, without a recognition of God, man's sinfulness and man's for need God and Jesus Christ, attempts to make the world a better place usually end in tears, e.g. the French Revolution, the Nazis, countless communist revolutions. I believe the renaissance of the TLM is the work of the Holy Spirit; and I wonder if we are now seeing the hand of God sweeping the NO, Vatican-2 and the last 60 years of the entire counter culture, of which V2 and the NO are products, into the trash bin of history.
@Leonora Kramer I agree there has been a conspiracy. My point in starting with my wish to avoid conspiracy theory was that by eliminating the impossible, all that remains is conspiracy. Moreover, we have historical proof that there have been conspiracies: the first triumvirate, The Rye House Plot, Benedict Arnold, the Venona Papers, the Pumpkin Papers, etc... So we know they exist. While we must pray and be vigilant, I am old enough, have seen enough and have faith enough to know Francis is fighting against God.
Beautiful question. In the end it is about the New religion of Vatican II. It is about New doctrines. If the New Mass is eliminated but people believe religious liberty they are still heretics. All heretics before Vatican II had the TLM
Don't fall for the lies. Listen to this video carefully, this guy says at about 2 minutes that the SSPX accepts the Novus Ordo mass as authentic when celebrated properly. So why does the SSPX not just say the Novus Ordo properly? How does going to the old rite fix the abuses in the new mass? This is a scam. The SSPX never got in trouble for Vatican 2 or the Novus Ordo, they got in trouble for ordaining priests in secret in 1976. But why wouldn't they want anyone to know who they ordain? It turns out a sex offender was kicked out of a seminary and Lefebvre took him in and fast-tracked him to the priesthood. He is now living in a same-sex marriage. Lefebvre had 2 faces.
Rigid makes great tools, they work and never break, there rigidity makes them sought after. I am very rigid in my thinking as a mechanic because if what I do does not work you can't get to your destination or your plumbing won't work. All my tools are labeled in Latin.
I attend the Mass in the ordinary form but was happy to know the TLM was still available. I was saddened and surprised to hear this news and I pray the traditions will not be lost in this cancel culture we are in.
I'm waiting for a conclave. How can the pope F. do such a thing! He is so wrong. Just think what emeritus pope Benedict XVI is going through... poor dear Benedict. He is a man of faith! Respect him really much.
Why should pope Benedict be upset, he probably understands what's going on ,of course he is suffering, so did Jesus, and Mary as she travels around trying to guide us, is rejected by church and laity.!Bayside. NY, Necedah Wisconsin, Conyers Georgia ect.
Our Lady predicted that there would come a time “with two popes” and that there would be a “pope under the influence of Satan.” I submit that She was referring to the present time. “Res ipsa loquitur” is my evidence.
Also, someone asked Malachi Martin about something his friend had been told by a high Ranking Priest who had read the 3rd Secret of Fatima, that there would be a Pope who would be ruled by the devil - Malachi Martin paused and said " It sounds like he has read the 3rd Secret of Fatima".
Ven. Archbishop Fulton Sheen: “Who’s going to save our Church? It’s not our bishops, it’s not our priests and it is not the religious. It is up to you, the people. You have the minds, the eyes and the ears to save the Church. Your mission is to see that the priests act like priests, your bishops act like bishops, and the religious act like religious.” Let us echo also the words of St Padre Pio, "Pray, hope and don't worry!" Oremus!
I’ll attempt to distill what this pope is working on: “New order” = translation, division, power, & money. How many translations are there in the “new order” mass? Ask yourself how many translations are there in the TLM? One Mass, one language, one universal Church; all mankind praying the same Mass. While I wish him no ill, I can’t help but think God has an immense sense of humor.
Thanks be to God, my Bishop (who is an OMI and very liberal) is maintaining the status quo in the designated parish church which celebrates both forms for the remaining 3 years before he retires. Our priest who celebrates both forms has advised that we attempt to be more socially active with the N.O. group.
Be careful of the double tongued. The Apostles passed over to the Gentiles one worship. The Jewish Passover prayers that were said in the Temple in Jerusalem that Jesus attended with His Apostles on the night He was betrayed are in the Tridentine Mass and are Perpetual and can't be abandoned. Wake up! The Sacraments were instituted by Jesus Christ and that was ages ago. He was not here in 1960 when the Apostates, Hirelings and Imposters took over. Get real two masses?
Please pray for my salvation brothers and sisters and please offer up any of your suffering for me, I have lived a very sinful life. Please offer up some suffering to help me make reparation/atonement for this sin. Thank you!
I discovered the Latin mass for the very first time in late September 2020. The small country church in the middle of a field had such profound impact on me the very first time that I went. I was not properly dressed or veiled but received by the community with open arms. The next week I was at the sister parish at the convent with my 14 year old daughter. Properly dressed and vowed this time the mothers received us with the proper Missile to follow Mass. At the end of mass my daughter said “Mom, did I just go to heaven”? Within 10 days she was a full-time student at the boarding school learning Latin, Greek, French, Catholicism and Gregorian chant along with English, math and science. Oh! And while preparing her paperwork for school at my parents home (my dad passed and my mom was preparing ready to move) on top of all the library books in the office was Missile of 1962! None of us had ever seen it before!! They’re in pencil and my grandmother’s handwriting was my father’s name and it said Merry Christmas 1962!
Traditionis Custodes : The title of the Motu Proprio itself admits that it is the Custodes Traditionis who are the real keepers of the Faith handled down to us by the Apostles.
Novus Ordo, what it does is try to unite everyone in the name of ecumenism but at the same time it has been hijacked by the government and abused, so yes it's a different religion, a government sanctioned religion just like the CCP... on the other hand, TLM has its faults in a different way, not all TLM is the same... some of the have become sects, occults that are far-right extreme supremacists that have separated themselves from the holy see... operating independently. Pope Francis's changes will not help unite but further divide the church into oblivion till all that's left are pockets of underground faithfuls practicing their faith in secret...
@@ClergetMusic ....after 1968? Prolly much much further down about 1920s, give credit to the charismatic groups for helping push the ecumenical movement, but I don't think there's one type of it, but several versions of it. Pope Francis prolly did the right thing, in some way yes... the fact is abuse is taking place in both novus ordo and tlm... but the abuse in novus ordo is possibly much heavier than tlm... if traditionalists are putting down, belittling thy neighbor because they are not like them that's extreminsm really, latin mass to uneducated poor from the Amazon, indians, or just civilized people.... cmon... both need to exist and hope it's not banned entirely...
Since I found out that the Novus Ordo Mass is a Protestant Worship Service and all its departure the thousands of years from the Catholic tradition; the N.O. is a NO NO for me. I will always attend the Traditional Latin Mass or NOTHING at all!
True question here: what does Canon law say about the state of souls of the SSPX people during the excommunication phase (90s)? Excommunication was lifted only later.
Canon Law protects the Society from the 1988 “Excommunication.” “No one is liable to a penalty who, when violating a law or precept acted only under compulsion of grave fear, even if only relative, or by reason of necessity or grave inconvenience, unless, however, the act is intrinsically evil or tends to be harmful to souls; [or] acted, within the limits of due moderation, in lawful self-defense or defense of another against an unjust aggressor." The Archbishop consecrated bishops for the preservation of the Catholic priesthood and the salvation of souls. Canon 1323 is his defense. Besides these two circumstances, Canon 1323 of the 1983 Code of Canon Law gives five other circumstances that exempt the agent from all imputability, rendering the application of the penalty impossible.
I AM CATHOLIC Yes, and Archbishop Lefebvre was never formally « excommunicated « . He was accused of having excommunicated himself « ipso facto » by consecrating bishops, when in fact, he had ALREADY HAD the permission to do it. Roman authorities were dithering endlessly over the CHOICE of candidates. Archbishop Lefebvre negotiated until he saw there was grave necessity to go ahead and provide for the Church. He was getting old and the crisis in the Church was extreme. Tens of thousands of priests and nuns were jumping ship. Then, he did THREE bishops, rather than one, which was a bit cheeky, in my opinion.
question, what should i do if i can only get to TLM maybe once a month? should i continue to attend Novus Ordo daily, because i wish so much to receive Jesus daily and go to Mass daily
You should talk to a Traditional priest that you really trust on this matter and get his advice. If I was in your situation, however, I would not attend the Novus Ordo under any circumstances. On the Sundays without a TLM, one still has the obligation of sanctifying their Sunday to the best of their ability. May God bless you in your journey.
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This commentary proves the Pope's point, i.e. it's not just about the Latin Mass but about obedience to Vatican II. When will the traditionalists realize either that the Popes since John XXIII haven't been popes or have been popes in office only. There is no longer a need to be obedient to these impostors or mere officeholders. Obey the magisterium, no the mason-erium.
God, I thank you for the foresightedness of the soon-becoming saint Marcel Lefebvre. What would have become of your flock, Lord, if you had not graced the Church with this great personality. Lord, this continues to prove that you know the end from the beginning. From the depth of my heart, Lord, please, destroy Traditionis Custodes which we know comes from the pit of hell.
I am from Dominican Republic where there is no celebration of the Traditional Mass any more. My Father used to talk about how he felt the strong presence of the Holy Spirit when he attended the Traditional Mass. To me, any word against celebrating this rite is like erasing billions of Holy Comunion for centuries from our Catholic predeccessors. To me, it is not one Vs the other. Both of them should be able to coexist as both of them workship the Holy and Sacred Body of Christ as He instructed His Apostles to do.
You cannot obey a Pope who has excommunicated himself by breaking the First Commandment (Thou shalt not have false gods before me) when he allowed a false idol into a Catholic church. He does not have the power to do what he is doing. He is to be ignored and you carry on as usual.
Honestly saw this coming while without a church. Later became an Orthodox Christian catechumen and was chrismated last year. Seriously did think of becoming Catholic for a while, but saw the world entering the Church via the consequences from Vatican II.
Father Rippenper does say the new mass is valid, if they are not clowning, I put in the clowning but I know he agrees. The new mass is very weak so I have no problem knowing that we need to resist, but how. The Lady's Rosary is the main weapon and I really wish I could speak Latin and say it in Latin.
... and he is the man who said that Hell doesn't exist and he is the man who gave his blessings on civil same-sex unions. I think same-sex unions would go completely against Catholic Church teaching unless the same-sex couple lives a celibate life... LOL!!!
What I don't like about all this, is my family goes to both the TLM and NO, I don't want to choose. I like going to both. I get the same amount out of both because of what I put into it. I have friends in both areas. Each side is saying to pick a side. I am not a Trad and I'm not a modernist, I am a Roman Catholic and I blame both sides for the division in the Church. I miss Pope Benedict XVI.
Mattheus, if you are a Roman Catholic then you should submit to the authority of the Church and the Pope. If you reject Vatican II and Pope Francis then you are not really a Roman Catholic.
I understand. I just discovered the Latin mass 50 yrs old through the SSPX. I prefer the Latin mass. But I raised two faithful daughters. 21 yr old I will not attend an SSPX mass because it’s not part of the diocese and my 14-year-old now attended school with the Dominican Mothers oh prefers the traditional mass. I told my youngest, do not let THIS split the family, ever!
Everyday, I ask Almighty God that it be his Most Holy will to intervene ASAP and restore his Most Holy Catholic Church to its teachings just like his Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ and the Apostles founded it in 33 A.D. We Catholics know that SATAN has been trying to destroy it since its creation but that will NEVER HAPPEN. Holy Communion should ONLY be on the tongue and while kneeling and NOT on the hand. THAT'S one of the reasons the hands of Priests are Consecrated.
Explaining Pope Francis comming from Latino Socialist Latin Italian Country. Americans stepping off treadmill longing for tradition not used to Leader Marshaling Modernism. Zeal for Souls. Prayer.
This woman says, all those wimmin trotting around with the Sacred hosts and Precious Blood gives me the creeps. Francis can say (did he write that diatribes?) what he likes, he will not succeed in destroying Tradition. Francis lives in his own weird world.
As we worship, we believe. The ancient Roman rite is the foundation of our faith. Sacred traditions passed down since the apostles through the Holy Spirit is the Holy Roman Catholic Church. Francis abolishing the ancient Roman liturgy breaks the succession of the faith handed-down by the Holy Spirit. Does this mean that the New Church that Francis is establishing no longer has the Holy Spirit dwelling in it? If so, where is the Holy Spirit now?
Lex orandi statuat legem credendi is one of if not the oldest law of the Church. When the prayer of the Mass was changed, so was the faith, or you could also say that when the NO was created, a new faith was created also.
When Francis talks it's the collegial church talks , Benedict said that this man is no theologian (in front of Francis),.... it is to curb the youth of the movement I think
I am a convert from Presbyterianism to a small town Novus Ordo parish. The first time I walked into an SSPX church, I was in CHURCH. It was like being transported back in time. Suddenly, the ENTIRE faith made sense. 100% UNAPOLOGETICALLY ROMAN CATHOLIC.
Thanks to Covid this 50 year old cradle Catholic missed mass and met a neighbor who had just attended St. Therese (SSPX). I was overwhelmed with the amount of children and families at this incredible beautiful mass in the outside Grado. The next week I went to the Holy Name Jesus Academy run by the Dominican mothers and brought my 14-year-old daughter who said after mass “Did I just going to heaven“? Within a week she was a member of the other girls school for only $250 a month in tuition! 30 Latin, Greek, French, Catholicism, Gregorian chant along with math, science. Both of our faith have grown exponentially and it was the best Easter ever!
Amen! You found your home! 🙏
convert here too.
similar story
Welcome home, my friend.
Seriously -- see if you can find an Eastern Rite church near you. Melkites are relatively common. They use the OLD ORIGINAL liturgy, from about 400 AD! Same as Orthodoxy uses. It is STUNNING.
I was very blessed to find an SSPX community 2 hours away. I am going to attend as often as I can. Praying for all the traditional priests and communities.
I am so pleased too we found SSPX 1 hour away from us. Every Sunday we make an effort to attend TLM. My husband was converted to Catholic he find TLM he feels more blessed than modernist Mass. Praise to thee Lord Jesus Christ. Amen
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Pope Francis gave authority to local bishops to approve the TLM in their dioceses, not stopping the TLM to be prayed... The TLM still can be done, by the authority given by Pope Francis to all Bishops...
smh...
After 70 yrs as a Traditional Catholic...I know Catholic when I see it. Happy to celebrate in my SSPX Chapel. ✝️
Not even a pope can stop you!
I am Kenyan and I started going to Latin mass last year during covid. I learnt about it through UA-cam I was like what is this absolutely breathtaking mass!? It’s THE BEST EXPRESSION OF FAITH. IN LOVE. Deo Gratias
I'm with the FSSP and have been somewhat critical of the SSPX. Now I understand that the SSPX were not being schismatic but rather were holding fast to the traditions of the church. Archbishop Lefebvre will someday be made a Saint. All of us in the FSSP acknowledge that God has preserved the Mass of all ages through his courage.
Yes! I have been following this saga since the early-1970's and I have been saying all along that if it hadn't been for Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre "sacrificing himself" by consecrating those four bishops in 1988 and suffering the consequences, the FSSP would never have been created by the subsequent 1988 document and there would be no FSSP. I marveled at people like the late Mother Angelica of EWTN fame who was openly critical of the Society of St, Pius X when she was essentially biting the hand that fed her any Tradition that her religious community had.
We love you FSSP and we understand the lack of courage when the Brothers split, a very human thing. Utter trust and now fulfilment in what Saint Marcel was saying. He could only have been instructed by Holy Spirit. He was rubber stamped in a secret meeting with Padre Pio who I believe was asked and assuredly blessed Marcel +
If one "Pope" can overturn what another has decreed, even whilst the past pontiff is alive , what is to stop future popes changing and issuing a new Moto propio to over ride the existing one? Is the Catholic Church able to change its nature, liturgy, prayers with every change of Pope - at his whim and fancy ?
Ridiculous state of affairs.
Interesting how he rejects the term "Vicar of Christ" , but does utilize the "authority" of having the final say as the "Pope" in his teaching capacity. We are blessed that the local bishop here where I reside allows the Latin Mass Society to continue and have the Latin Mass in The Church ~ We will not be shuffled off into a hall or side chapel~ We are even staffed and given priests from The Society of St. Peter in California when we need their help. The line is drawn here now and the veil of deceit and Modernism is lifted. People need to wake up here and pray unceasingly for the Pope~
The Pope cannot do whatever he wants, never had been allowed, he is a servant of tradition but like a good Marxist he does what he wants
Time to come back to Orthodoxy. The world needs nothing more than an Orthodox Pope of Rome in communion with his brothers in the East. Infallibility rest with the Holy Spirit in His Church, not with one chair of Peter.
Let's keep in mind the Catholic Church is the Mystical body of Christ. In the end my Immaculate Heart will triumph... Blessed Virgin Mary. 🙏
The Pope can't do this and l believe arch bishop Roche signed the document as Francis is in hospital...This the action of a devious man ,Francis knows he can't do this so he got somebody else to sign. How can a pope remove a mass that was canonized by a saint and a pope ? This man is a pope in name only. He is setting up the one world godless church and l will not follow him. He needs our prayers!!!!! Lge
This was Fr Robinson's sermon at St Therese, Waunakee, WI on Sunday July 18, 2021
I am so grateful to have discovered the SSPX! I live near their seminary in Virginia and am able to attend the Mass of the ages. What a gem, what a treasure! Thank you SSPX!!!!! God bless and grow you!
I discovered them during Covid! So blessed to have a small country church only a half an hour away. Plus the Holy Name Jesus Academy an all girls boarding school run by the Dominican mothers. My 14-year-old daughter went to her first mass and said “Mom, did I just go to Heaven?”
They never abbondoned the faithful during lockdown,we know by the fruits,that this order which is legitimate thanks to pope benadict will grow, because of the trials of the order, they would have Masse's in hotel rooms,rented appartments,etc,in America the fire service let's them use halls,in the stations building,so much respect for them they don't cower away,and said no we won't be shutting churches instead we will be opining them, we'll done sspx,we faithful should gift this society,with a shower of blessings from the faith full,god is pleased with them!
“Welcome to the Novus Ordo, please drop off your 1962 missal and pick up your tambourine.”
Haha 😂😂😂 Ah, many a truth is spoken in jest.
(You've never really worshipped at an NO mass until you've seen Srs. Mary Boom-boom and Margaret Cat-Lady in their purple leotards liturgically dancing before the altar during The Offertory.)
Nothing new! This has been happening already for the better part of the last 50 years! Pray and do penance that proper reverence returns before too long! Oremus!
@@steveschmidt5156 I hope you are making that up.
Ha! 😹🙈
@@roseannenorman7129 if you want to see girls dancing in churches go to Ireland. The country is Heathen. In Knock Bishops and Priests sat down watching the Laity distribute communion. It means they have abandoned their religious duties but still get paid . Robbers really.
The growth of the Traditional Movement within the Church is not the work of men, but of the Holy Spirit. ...so dream on Pope Francis et al.!
Maybe your right.
Says who?
@@markwest1963 Gregory does and he might be right.
@@markwest1963 I'd like to answer that, if I may? I think I perhaps should be grateful to Pope Francis for forcing my eyes open. I had left the Church because it felt completely bland, unspiritual, and deadish, as if essential things were missing from it. Then Pope Francis took this drastic step to slowly crush and end whatever is left of the Traditional Mass.
What he did felt wrong in light of the wrongs that Pope Francis himself refuses to prohibit, and the fact that Pope Francis himself is allowing the worship of other religions (Hindu religion, Pachamama) inside the Church, not to mention his shocking friendliness to totalitarian systems which are atheist and imprison and kill people who try to worship.
I feel as if I had been the last one to know there were traditional Masses going on anywhere. Maybe I wasn't the last one, but it sure felt that way. I had never noticed any, and no one ever told me anything about them. I also didn't know a group such as SSPX existed. I didn't know these things until Pope Francis took those steps a few days ago against the traditional Mass, and I began to ask myself questions and look for the answers.
I need to find an SSPX Mass to start attending.
Glad to have been called
I don’t attend the Latin Mass, I don’t know the order of its rites, but I know it is the original form of the Mass and was the original form until Vatican II. I’m surprised to find myself almost angry that the Latin Mass is being suppressed like this by Pope Francis. I don’t understand why the celebration of the Latin Mass is more concerning than the nonsense happening in Germany at the moment with those bishops. It is more important to uphold Church doctrine than to make the Church more progressive. Making the Church progressive is what is dividing the Church, not the celebration of centuries’ old traditions.
If they do manage to rid TLM, the closest alternative is the Orthodox mass...
I would still remain Catholic. My parish just has the Novus Ordo Mass, but the parishioners who attend have great respect for the Eucharist. Many of the women wear veils as well.
@@jamesstuart6282 Actually it would more properly be the Eastern rites. Granted I've heard some of them have been tampered with as well and there is at least some pressure on the rest ATM. Not sure of any details on this though.
I agree aith you. I did not grow up knowing about the latin mass, i never heard of it until I was around my 30s. But I find myself drawn to it. It did made me feel disappointed with the Pope with this decision,. It broke the catholic community more than unified them. The move is more political than spiritual that’s why i was upset about hearing that too.
I am not a Catholic, but even I can see that Pope Francis has got this seriously wrong. It is likely that, in the process of trying to 'fix' something, he will have ended up breaking it. I will be praying that all traditional Catholics are once again give freedom of worship and this mistaken directive is rescinded very soon!
I’ve seen analysis that likens this MP pitting the two rites against each other to the sacrifices of Cain & Abel. Cain’s sacrifice was not pleasing to God. In a jealous rage, filled with envy, resentment & hatred, Cain, the elder, murdered his brother. Sobering.
This is an EXCELLENT correlation!
Sobering indeed! Well said✝️
🙏🏻🔥❤️
If worst comes to worst y'all are always welcome in the Byzantine Catholic Church.
Thanks for the invitation. Some will take it.
@@Cookies_and_Catholicism Byzantine Catholic Church, Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church, Melkite Catholic Church, Romanian Byzantine Catholic Church, Syro-Malankara Catholic Church, Syro-Malabar Catholic Church. These can be found near most major metropolitan areas.
Occasionally I go but I am Latin Rite, my parents helped found a Byzantine Catholic Church in early 90s as a refuge for us but we left to go to the TLM
My thinking and heritage is Western
i would still go, but after. pastor openly promoted shots, and majority of parishioners puts science before supernatural life..i bowed out... now attend the sspx..and no talk. of shots, etc... also holy water available ..no social distancing. etc..faith over fear
In the end the Immaculate Heart of Mary will triumph. Amen.
Ty, Fr. Robinson.
Very painful time: Baptized in 1948, and went to Catholic school. It's be hard since Vatican II.
Currently, widowed and no job but I will continue to support the Sacred Mass.
Edit: 1949
Thank you Fr Robinson! May our dear Lord bless and protect you so you may continue His work for the salvation of souls.
Praying for you and of course for Holy Mother Church from Australia 🙏🏻
A Catholic youtuber that I won't name has said that the SSPX is "gloating" about us "bootlickers" over here and laughing at our "obedience:- obviously placing the SSPX in a very bad light. In contrast, what I actually hear from this SSPX priest is brotherly compassion and concern for us. It's heartwarming.
The SSPX priest where we have attended was on his knees praying for the pope.
@@marialynn1037 that's a true priest
As a 60 year old SSPX Third order member, my heart aches for the sufferings of any Catholic. We know how TLM Catholics feel because we have been persecuted for decades. Choosing apparent disobedience to men in order to obey God and keep the Faith has always been painful. Christ was persecuted by the clergy...
@@granmabern5283 Thank you for sharing that. It is hard and confusing to be persecuted from within.
The modern Mass with poor homily, a worship that allows women access to the Tabanacle, where women are allowed to give communion, allow alter girls, allow to receive communication on the hand. A Pope who does not understand our Lord Jesus, the Holy Sea filled with men that worship themselves, a church infiltrated with heresy, a Pope who thinks James Martin is a St..... Our Lady will not permit these evil to carry on. I ask all faithful Catholics to ask for the intercession of Our Blessed Lady.
@Attracta the only good that has come out of letting girls altar serve, at least at my parish, is that being an altar server as a woman has helped me increase my devotion to the Eucharist. It also drove me to start discerning religious life. Thank you for your comments though.
This is in the Bible in the book of Daniel and in the Apocalypse. The faith will be taken lightly and start to wither, to ultimately be replaced by illegitimate authorities who will establish the abomination in the altar and the Lord will not be there anymore. We are sadly right on the way for that.
I think Pope Francis is freemason. He's not faithful to true Magesteruim of the Roman Catholic Church.
yes! women are to be feared! you people are hilarious. what you've done here is projection.
@@ede-jomadden8182 no one "projects" anything when it comes to the Lord. The holy mass and sacraments were established by God since the beginning. Everything has its way and it is not "your" way.
Ok this basically sounds like an admission that the Church before vatican 2 and the church after Vatican 2 and it's Mass are different religions
There is only one church so its a good move to restrict the latin mass to prevent disunity of the body of Christ.
Oh snap! You’re right.
Trying to simplify a changing situation involving many millions of people into one black and white simplistic statement is intellectually lazy.
Our faith is based upon 3pillars: Scripture, TRADITION & Magisterium. In 1984 and 1988 PopeJPII put out Moto Proprios; this is a continuation of his work.
@@franklim6329 the Latin Mass which produced countless Saints for nearly 1500 years and existed BEFORE THE NO is causing disunity? The NO and TLM which came before it, celebrated by the Church for hundreds of years are NOT THE SAME.
I have never attend Traditional Latin Mass (don't have accessed) but I think the SSPX will be the one that SAVED THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
@@Zematus737 If it wasn’t for Archbishop Lefebvre, there would be no TLM to attend. All other Latin Mass orders enjoy the fruits from his labour.
The key is to go to Catholic Church every Sunday and if possible occasional weekdays. Let our Lord Jesus Christ be your guide. God bless.
Tam, so SSPX is the savior not our Lord Jesus Christ.
@Leonora Kramer Pope St. John Paul II excommunicated bishop Lefebvre for disobedience.
@@franklim6329 if you actually read the comments above no one is saying Archbishop Lefebvre is our Lord and Saviour. What people are saying is that he preserved that Latin liturgy. Big difference.
I will send my support for the mass I attend. The TLM is probably the most beautiful thing this side of heaven.
I have been to many a Novos Ordo mass that I thought was a mockery of reverence. I refuse to go back to that. Some of those masses have been called “ clown masses” and they were that. No. Sorry the new mass is the ship wreck of the Catholic Church.
I’m so heartbroken. I have stopped going to the NO church next door (literally) and only watch the Traditional Latin Mass online as I’m nowhere near a TLM parish…
The Internet is good in that regard.
O LORD give us many more holy Catholic priests. Amen.
Ironic that in the Novus Ordo church all religions are accepted and welcomed according to religious freedom, and yet the Traditional Latin Mass has its freedom taken away.
Fine with being called rigid. The pot(Francis) calling the kettle black. He is the rigid one.
My family and I came into the SSPX three years ago and we never looked back!
The Holy Spirit is guiding those who would like to preserve the Traditional Mass! Viva Cristo Rey!
The Holy Ghost may be with the Latin Mass, but how do we reconcile this with various contemporary Apparitions ,which are not approved, but seem to be correct, that state " do not abandon My Son in the Tabernacles of the world ".
Is anybody really surprised by this given the bizarre goings on thus far in the current pontificate?
Nope Jorge is a heretic
This Pope is anti Christ. God forgive him
No but devastating nonetheless
And the bizzare things from this pontificate only seem to be accelerating as of lately, pretty much since Bergoglio allowed the Pachamama rituals in the Vatican gardens. In a way, the current pontificate reminds me of some horror ghost film in which the main characters move into a new house and then certain little events start happening, which at first the family just scoffs at, but then as time goes by, the haunting activity starts getting worse and worse and increasing in intensity, until the family can’t handle it on their own anymore and seek intervention (hopefully, in the form of an exorcist). I believe we are soon reaching that point in the Church. We should pray so that there is Divine intervention to come and rescue the Church from her hijackers, and soon.
I came back to the church after many years at first the N.O. but the Holy Spirit lead me to the SSPX thank God for showing me the true church.
This will strenghten the SSPX
Andreas, and division.
It seems "rigid" better describes Francis than anyone else. Makes no sense except just using his power to get rid of traditional mass because, why? Because the Church is only growing because of the TLM...Maybe he doesn't want the Church to grow?
"Maybe he[Francis] doesn't want the Church to grow?" I try to avoid conspiracy theories, but always recall the words of Arthur Conan Doyle: "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth." So, I think you are onto something.
Francis, I speculate, wants the Church to grow but, believes the TLM will cause the Church to grow in the "wrong" direction. Before Francis is Pope, Catholic or even Christian, Francis is a leftist, and the universal belief of every leftist who ever drew breath is that heaven on earth can be created if only we discover the right formula, which is a kind of gnosticism. The NO, with its man-centredness, promotes this, and although making the world a better place is a very worthy goal, without a recognition of God, man's sinfulness and man's for need God and Jesus Christ, attempts to make the world a better place usually end in tears, e.g. the French Revolution, the Nazis, countless communist revolutions.
I believe the renaissance of the TLM is the work of the Holy Spirit; and I wonder if we are now seeing the hand of God sweeping the NO, Vatican-2 and the last 60 years of the entire counter culture, of which V2 and the NO are products, into the trash bin of history.
@Leonora Kramer I agree there has been a conspiracy. My point in starting with my wish to avoid conspiracy theory was that by eliminating the impossible, all that remains is conspiracy. Moreover, we have historical proof that there have been conspiracies: the first triumvirate, The Rye House Plot, Benedict Arnold, the Venona Papers, the Pumpkin Papers, etc... So we know they exist.
While we must pray and be vigilant, I am old enough, have seen enough and have faith enough to know Francis is fighting against God.
" One must resist the Pope who openly destroys the church "
St Cajetan
We must believe what our own eyes see! 🙏
What about the other 20 something rites in the Church? Will they be ‘united’ into the Conciliar Mass?
Beautiful question. In the end it is about the New religion of Vatican II. It is about New doctrines. If the New Mass is eliminated but people believe religious liberty they are still heretics. All heretics before Vatican II had the TLM
Don't fall for the lies. Listen to this video carefully, this guy says at about 2 minutes that the SSPX accepts the Novus Ordo mass as authentic when celebrated properly. So why does the SSPX not just say the Novus Ordo properly? How does going to the old rite fix the abuses in the new mass? This is a scam. The SSPX never got in trouble for Vatican 2 or the Novus Ordo, they got in trouble for ordaining priests in secret in 1976. But why wouldn't they want anyone to know who they ordain? It turns out a sex offender was kicked out of a seminary and Lefebvre took him in and fast-tracked him to the priesthood. He is now living in a same-sex marriage. Lefebvre had 2 faces.
@@themoderncatholicwarrior7216 regardless SSPX do you agree Vatican II is heretical and Catholic should stay away from the Novus Ordo sect?
And odd they are not changed
@@themoderncatholicwarrior7216 “this guy” you mean the ordained priest Fr. Robinson?
How can we be eased out to the new mass? Most of us came out of the novus ordo churches because of our distaste for these horrible masses.
Rigid makes great tools, they work and never break, there rigidity makes them sought after. I am very rigid in my thinking as a mechanic because if what I do does not work you can't get to your destination or your plumbing won't work. All my tools are labeled in Latin.
I attend the Mass in the ordinary form but was happy to know the TLM was still available. I was saddened and surprised to hear this news and I pray the traditions will not be lost in this cancel culture we are in.
I'm waiting for a conclave. How can the pope F. do such a thing! He is so wrong. Just think what emeritus pope Benedict XVI is going through... poor dear Benedict. He is a man of faith! Respect him really much.
Benedict XVI is a modernist heretic just like Paul V, John Paul II and Francis. He was merely friendly to tradition.
@@ephesians6172 No. Give me a brake!
@@arne5451 you mean “break!” Lol
@@ephesians6172 Yes "break", sorry! English is not my mother tongue. What can I say...Lol.
Why should pope Benedict be upset, he probably understands what's going on ,of course he is suffering, so did Jesus, and Mary as she travels around trying to guide us, is rejected by church and laity.!Bayside. NY, Necedah Wisconsin, Conyers Georgia ect.
Our Lady predicted that there would come a time “with two popes” and that there would be a “pope under the influence of Satan.” I submit that She was referring to the present time. “Res ipsa loquitur” is my evidence.
Then the real question naturally follows: where’s Pope #2, and what’s his plan for the faithful?
DMBar what is your source for this loose quote attributed to the Mother of God???
PF King I read Catherine Emmerich and appreciate your clearer reference.
The Destroyer...😥. Read the prophecy of st. Francis of Assisi. Is about all this, what's going on.🙏.
Also, someone asked Malachi Martin about something his friend had been told by a high Ranking Priest who had read the 3rd Secret of Fatima, that there would be a Pope who would be ruled by the devil - Malachi Martin paused and said " It sounds like he has read the 3rd Secret of Fatima".
Why am I only hearing about Saint Francis relating prophecies now??? Where did you hear this?
@@granmabern5283 You can find it on Google.
Thank you for this.
Lord Jesus, bless your true Holy Church
LONG LIVE CHRIST THE KING.
Amen. Thank you, Father. Christus Vincit.
I attend a ICKSP oratory. No change has been made at our oratory since this has been issued.
Ven. Archbishop Fulton Sheen: “Who’s going to save our Church? It’s not our bishops, it’s not our priests and it is not the religious. It is up to you, the people. You have the minds, the eyes and the ears to save the Church. Your mission is to see that the priests act like priests, your bishops act like bishops, and the religious act like religious.” Let us echo also the words of St Padre Pio, "Pray, hope and don't worry!" Oremus!
I’ll attempt to distill what this pope is working on:
“New order” = translation, division, power, & money.
How many translations are there in the “new order” mass?
Ask yourself how many translations are there in the TLM?
One Mass, one language, one universal Church; all mankind praying the same Mass.
While I wish him no ill, I can’t help but think God has an immense sense of humor.
Thanks be to God, my Bishop (who is an OMI and very liberal) is maintaining the status quo in the designated parish church which celebrates both forms for the remaining 3 years before he retires. Our priest who celebrates both forms has advised that we attempt to be more socially active with the N.O. group.
Be careful of the double tongued. The Apostles passed over to the Gentiles one worship. The Jewish Passover prayers that were said in the Temple in Jerusalem that Jesus attended with His Apostles on the night He was betrayed are in the Tridentine Mass and are Perpetual and can't be abandoned.
Wake up! The Sacraments were instituted by Jesus Christ and that was ages ago. He was not here in 1960 when the Apostates, Hirelings and Imposters took over.
Get real two masses?
I just started yelling when he said this : 07:15 I mean WOW He went there!!!
Please pray for my salvation brothers and sisters and please offer up any of your suffering for me, I have lived a very sinful life. Please offer up some suffering to help me make reparation/atonement for this sin. Thank you!
Casey, go to Confession!
It's so sad to see the church being torn apart
Does this mean SSPX will grow??????
Hopefully
I discovered the Latin mass for the very first time in late September 2020. The small country church in the middle of a field had such profound impact on me the very first time that I went. I was not properly dressed or veiled but received by the community with open arms. The next week I was at the sister parish at the convent with my 14 year old daughter. Properly dressed and vowed this time the mothers received us with the proper Missile to follow Mass. At the end of mass my daughter said “Mom, did I just go to heaven”? Within 10 days she was a full-time student at the boarding school learning Latin, Greek, French, Catholicism and Gregorian chant along with English, math and science.
Oh! And while preparing her paperwork for school at my parents home (my dad passed and my mom was preparing ready to move) on top of all the library books in the office was Missile of 1962! None of us had ever seen it before!! They’re in pencil and my grandmother’s handwriting was my father’s name and it said Merry Christmas 1962!
Nicole Robinson Beautiful!
Bergoglio versus the Holy Spirit
Traditionis Custodes : The title of the Motu Proprio itself admits that it is the Custodes Traditionis who are the real keepers of the Faith handled down to us by the Apostles.
I will stand with my St. STANISLAUS, Till the end. And if it goes, I will go to an Eastern Catholic rite.
Norvus Ordo is different religion end of conversation
Novus Ordo, what it does is try to unite everyone in the name of ecumenism but at the same time it has been hijacked by the government and abused, so yes it's a different religion, a government sanctioned religion just like the CCP... on the other hand, TLM has its faults in a different way, not all TLM is the same... some of the have become sects, occults that are far-right extreme supremacists that have separated themselves from the holy see... operating independently. Pope Francis's changes will not help unite but further divide the church into oblivion till all that's left are pockets of underground faithfuls practicing their faith in secret...
@@jamesstuart6282 the core of the “ecumenism”of V2 is religious indifferentism. It’s why they allude to salvation outside the Catholic Church.
@@ClergetMusic ....after 1968? Prolly much much further down about 1920s, give credit to the charismatic groups for helping push the ecumenical movement, but I don't think there's one type of it, but several versions of it. Pope Francis prolly did the right thing, in some way yes... the fact is abuse is taking place in both novus ordo and tlm... but the abuse in novus ordo is possibly much heavier than tlm... if traditionalists are putting down, belittling thy neighbor because they are not like them that's extreminsm really, latin mass to uneducated poor from the Amazon, indians, or just civilized people.... cmon... both need to exist and hope it's not banned entirely...
Where is the closest SSPX to Salt Lake City Utah?
The Temple!
@@garyhall7377 Raspberries
@@garyhall7377 You trolling?
Disgusting.
@@MikeFreesinger best with whipped cream
Since I found out that the Novus Ordo Mass is a Protestant Worship Service and all its departure the thousands of years from the Catholic tradition; the N.O. is a NO NO for me. I will always attend the Traditional Latin Mass or NOTHING at all!
True question here: what does Canon law say about the state of souls of the SSPX people during the excommunication phase (90s)? Excommunication was lifted only later.
Canon Law protects the Society from the 1988 “Excommunication.”
“No one is liable to a penalty who, when violating a law or precept acted only under compulsion of grave fear, even if only relative, or by reason of necessity or grave inconvenience, unless, however, the act is intrinsically evil or tends to be harmful to souls; [or] acted, within the limits of due moderation, in lawful self-defense or defense of another against an unjust aggressor."
The Archbishop consecrated bishops for the preservation of the Catholic priesthood and the salvation of souls. Canon 1323 is his defense.
Besides these two circumstances, Canon 1323 of the 1983 Code of Canon Law gives five other circumstances that exempt the agent from all imputability, rendering the application of the penalty impossible.
@@IAMCATHOLIC thank you !
I AM CATHOLIC Yes, and Archbishop Lefebvre was never formally « excommunicated « . He was accused of having excommunicated himself « ipso facto » by consecrating bishops, when in fact, he had ALREADY HAD the permission to do it. Roman authorities were dithering endlessly over the CHOICE of candidates. Archbishop Lefebvre negotiated until he saw there was grave necessity to go ahead and provide for the Church. He was getting old and the crisis in the Church was extreme. Tens of thousands of priests and nuns were jumping ship.
Then, he did THREE bishops, rather than one, which was a bit cheeky, in my opinion.
question, what should i do if i can only get to TLM maybe once a month? should i continue to attend Novus Ordo daily, because i wish so much to receive Jesus daily and go to Mass daily
You should talk to a Traditional priest that you really trust on this matter and get his advice.
If I was in your situation, however, I would not attend the Novus Ordo under any circumstances.
On the Sundays without a TLM, one still has the obligation of sanctifying their Sunday to the best of their ability.
May God bless you in your journey.
God bless & protect the Society of St. Pious 10.
Bottom up structure ?
History speaks for itself
The world is in continuous decline, any aspirant must reconstruct the truth and reverse the decay of time in their own flesh right back to the origin.
Divine Mercy
🙏end of war
🙏end of violence
🙏end of starvation
讚美主
This moto propio is not an infallible uttering.
Where's the response from the superior general?
Think about that oxymoronic, paradox of a statement "people trying to force you to believe in religious liberty..." 😫😂
Why do you think that lightening struck the Vatican when Benedict resigned forcibly
True True!
Novus Ordo is a synthetic and GMO mass
Like having a Big Mac for the Eucharist
Starting today Thursday July 22, 2021 We will begin Fasting and praying for the power of the TRINITY to Show Favor and grant Miraculous Protection of the Respectful True Loyal, Seminarians, Priests, Bishop's and Cardinals. And the inilation of the devils malicious dibolical plans to kill the sanctity and destroy our church members and attack our own family. The power of fasting will cast out demons as JESUS told his apostles.
We are Apostles for our Beloved Authentic Catholic faith.
Be Bold Be Catholic
Become like the MACCABEES who fought for God's Will within our church.
👑✝️🕊
That's exactly why we should all be Active in the Salvation Army🤘
One more step to destroy Papacy.
This commentary proves the Pope's point, i.e. it's not just about the Latin Mass but about obedience to Vatican II. When will the traditionalists realize either that the Popes since John XXIII haven't been popes or have been popes in office only. There is no longer a need to be obedient to these impostors or mere officeholders. Obey the magisterium, no the mason-erium.
How will Traditionis Carceres be enforced? Will the author's Global overlords issue a new Act of Uniformity?
I am 100% Orthodox Roman Catholic and I will defend the Roman Catholic Church 100%
God, I thank you for the foresightedness of the soon-becoming saint Marcel Lefebvre. What would have become of your flock, Lord, if you had not graced the Church with this great personality. Lord, this continues to prove that you know the end from the beginning. From the depth of my heart, Lord, please, destroy Traditionis Custodes which we know comes from the pit of hell.
I am from Dominican Republic where there is no celebration of the Traditional Mass any more. My Father used to talk about how he felt the strong presence of the Holy Spirit when he attended the Traditional Mass. To me, any word against celebrating this rite is like erasing billions of Holy Comunion for centuries from our Catholic predeccessors.
To me, it is not one Vs the other. Both of them should be able to coexist as both of them workship the Holy and Sacred Body of Christ as He instructed His Apostles to do.
Will z followers of z pope ever renounce z papacy??!! 🕯👀👈🏽
We have to say it.
Also, not in a Church.
Cardinal Bergoglio give me the TLM or give me nothing 🙏 I resist you to your face.
You cannot obey a Pope who has excommunicated himself by breaking the First Commandment (Thou shalt not have false gods before me) when he allowed a false idol into a Catholic church. He does not have the power to do what he is doing. He is to be ignored and you carry on as usual.
Religious indifferentism is at the heart of the “ecumenism” that V2 espoused.
All of it leading to the goal of a One World Religion.
@@mariamartin94 Masonic ideology at its worst.
Ease??
Honestly saw this coming while without a church. Later became an Orthodox Christian catechumen and was chrismated last year. Seriously did think of becoming Catholic for a while, but saw the world entering the Church via the consequences from Vatican II.
This present pope is a protestant by his behavour
Who is this talking?
The Holy Spirit
Father Rippenper does say the new mass is valid, if they are not clowning, I put in the clowning but I know he agrees. The new mass is very weak so I have no problem knowing that we need to resist, but how. The Lady's Rosary is the main weapon and I really wish I could speak Latin and say it in Latin.
I , for one , am not gonna abandon the church, and go into schism
Please elaborate.
Pope Francis needs to disappear to Babylon the seat of his deities!
If they want MONEY they will
obviously rome will say no cuz Francis doesnt want the latin mass around
We have to pray that Pope Francis the Fallible does not destroy The Catholic Church from within. We have many trying to destroy us from the outside.
Francis is a grumpy old man.
... and he is the man who said that Hell doesn't exist and he is the man who gave his blessings on civil same-sex unions. I think same-sex unions would go completely against Catholic Church teaching unless the same-sex couple lives a celibate life... LOL!!!
What I don't like about all this, is my family goes to both the TLM and NO, I don't want to choose. I like going to both. I get the same amount out of both because of what I put into it. I have friends in both areas. Each side is saying to pick a side. I am not a Trad and I'm not a modernist, I am a Roman Catholic and I blame both sides for the division in the Church. I miss Pope Benedict XVI.
Mattheus, if you are a Roman Catholic then you should submit to the authority of the Church and the Pope. If you reject Vatican II and Pope Francis then you are not really a Roman Catholic.
I understand. I just discovered the Latin mass 50 yrs old through the SSPX. I prefer the Latin mass. But I raised two faithful daughters. 21 yr old I will not attend an SSPX mass because it’s not part of the diocese and my 14-year-old now attended school with the Dominican Mothers oh prefers the traditional mass. I told my youngest, do not let THIS split the family, ever!
You choose the mass that developed by God, not sinners! That is your answer.
Everyday, I ask Almighty God that it be his Most Holy will to intervene ASAP and restore his Most Holy Catholic Church to its teachings just like his Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ and the Apostles founded it in 33 A.D. We Catholics know that SATAN has been trying to destroy it since its creation but that will NEVER HAPPEN. Holy Communion should ONLY be on the tongue and while kneeling and NOT on the hand. THAT'S one of the reasons the hands of Priests are Consecrated.
Explaining Pope Francis comming from Latino Socialist Latin Italian Country. Americans stepping off treadmill longing for tradition not used to Leader Marshaling Modernism.
Zeal for Souls. Prayer.
This woman says, all those wimmin trotting around with the Sacred hosts and Precious Blood gives me the creeps. Francis can say (did he write that diatribes?) what he likes, he will not succeed in destroying Tradition. Francis lives in his own weird world.
As we worship, we believe. The ancient Roman rite is the foundation of our faith. Sacred traditions passed down since the apostles through the Holy Spirit is the Holy Roman Catholic Church. Francis abolishing the ancient Roman liturgy breaks the succession of the faith handed-down by the Holy Spirit. Does this mean that the New Church that Francis is establishing no longer has the Holy Spirit dwelling in it? If so, where is the Holy Spirit now?
Lex orandi statuat legem credendi is one of if not the oldest law of the Church. When the prayer of the Mass was changed, so was the faith, or you could also say that when the NO was created, a new faith was created also.
When Francis talks it's the collegial church talks , Benedict said that this man is no theologian (in front of Francis),.... it is to curb the youth of the movement I think
By our founder lefevre.. incredible he just admits that Christ did not found the sspx.