This man is genius, the whole western civilization is in one hand, and Shiekh Hamza Yusuf is in the other....i don't consider him as my guide though. I know others who are greater than him. But still i see in him a big deal of my deepest ambitions.
what do you mean "guide" every human being has mistakes except prophet Muhammad (saw). we can take knowledge and benefit from people but not blindly follow them. only Muhammad (saw)
@@saadkhawar8039 CNN and Fox news is owned by big corporations they potray muslims as evil but most muslims are good people, the reason they hate them is because islam is the only religion where 'most' of the followeres stay away from thr big sins or know they are bad
Mashallah Hamza Yusuf, i envy your akhirra. Inshallah god will grant you paradise for all the good things you have done in the name of your lord. Peace.
"Someone will be gathered with the person he loves", (Sayidinna Muhammad PBUH) Insya Allah we will be gathered with sayidinna Muhammad PBUH and ulama...including syekh Hamza Yusuf. Aamiin
RESPECT, Shaykh Hamza Yusuf. I believe he's already achieve a highest MAQAM. What a beautiful human being from inside and outside. *SYARIAT >> TAREQAT >> HAQIQAT >> MA'RIFAT* = *ONENESS.* _Iman+Islam+Ihsan = Aqidah+Fiqh+Tasawwuf._
I think his manner of speech & the way he delivers his message is comandable, & 2 do that a person needs some skills which Hamza Yusuf has but most ppl lack it. I wish I had some1 like him in my life who would correct my thinking & metality, by explaining things that r beyond my reach, & i know I could be that person 4 myself 2 but it's nice 2 live in that kind of company. I hope wht i said makes sense or may be it's just like he said I too am a Philosopher lol.
13:04 what a beautiful point he made. The word "Bashar" is used for human being but in actual fact it means skin. If you look at the animals then they are either covered by fur, feathers, hair fibre etc. But Allah didnt want to make us like animals. That is why he covered us with skin bcoz human being is a lofty creation
This is more of a discussion than a debate. Debates can be problematic sometimes beacause they can have an egotistical sense and may repel some good listeners and intellectuals with good hearts who really want to know and learn, and at the same time debates can attract some egocentric people who just love drama combined with their intellect looking to just win and feel good about themselves. That's why discussions like this are beautiful and actually serve Dawah more than debates. They give the peace of mind to think and contemplate on what is being said without getting agitated.
A personal pet peev of mine is : It is better for someone to finish their thought, before asking the next question. Even many so called journalist do this
Islamic HD---the title you posted here ; ie, Hamza Yusuf debates is unfair n unjust if the Hamza himself dislikes n abhores argumentation, debate and you ought to edit n change the given word " debates" Please, Thank you
التفاهم يوصلك إلى بر الأمان والتكيد يكاد بك الرحمن ومن حمى نفسه وحم لحلمه وما التوحم بالكورنيش يدكورُ وما التدوير بالدورة عند معارفي تتفنن من تنتيف الثقافه المصرية بالسفارة الكويتية أداة الثقافات نعلمك ان ثقافتنا تعطيك ولكن لا تشارك كربلا
Truth is based on FACT and the reality of what-is. It is NOT based on faith or a belief system. When people speak of god they speak about their beliefs in a concept of god. Beliefs are beliefs, not facts. Religious concepts of god are man-created, not fact!
Islam is a rational belief system. It's not based on blind "faith" as you indicated. Perhaps other faiths are blind faiths, but not Islam. There is a system that governs the universe as Musleh Essa explained.
A belief does not need proof to be true. However it does need reasoning. And Islam's reasons for it's authenticity is really something else. Out of this world you could say. Look into it and open your mind.
*Why Suffering/evil poses a Problem for Atheists?* We do not think this is an issue for the athiest and is only an excuse they to try make in order seem as if it validates their lying stance in defiance of GOD. Why do We think this? Because most of the suffering and pain people go through is not done by GOD on them in some supernatural way, rather it is the doing of people upon people, not done by GOD on to HIS creation. Thus, in Surah Falaq, "...from the evil of whatever HE has created,..." Which means, "...from the evil of whatever _(comes out from what)_ HE has created,..." and supposedly if it is not meant this, then it would supposely mean that ALLAH/GOD is evil and does evil upon HIS creatures, as for the reasons why athiest always say, IF ALLAH is a Merciful Deity/GOD, then why is there evil, suffering, pain etc. in the world, implying as if evil comes from ALLAH, and without a doubt, ALLAH is the GOOD, the MERCIFUL, and not evil. Further more "but whatever of evil befalls you, is from yourself” _(al-Nisa’ 4:79)_, means that calamities, which are referred to here as “evil”, are created by mankind himself. And “And whatever of misfortune befalls you, it is because of what your hands have earned. And He pardons much” _(al-Shoora 42:30)_. When ALLAH Ta’ala intended to create each thing, HE determined when it would come into existence and when it would cease to exist. HE also determined its qualities and nature. In addition, everything in the universe, the seen and the unseen, is completely subject to the Power of ALLAH. Nothing can happen outside the will of ALLAH Ta’ala. Hence only by ALLAH's Will is any mind, wind, angel, etc. able to do anything, as per nature of the creation that ALLAH/GOD has made, and not that evil comes from ALLAH, rather its in the nature of creation _(mainly man and jinn, otherwise only by men and jinn)_ who do evil, wickedness, cause sufferring, and that it is not of ALLAH's doing, but only that ALLAH has allowed such to be since that is what those creatures of HIS intend to do, whilst know, "What comes to you of good is from ALLAH , but what comes to you of evil, _(O mankind)_, is from yourself. And WE have sent you, _(O Beloved Prophet S.A.W)_, to the people as a Messenger, and sufficient is ALLAH as Witness." _(Quran, 4:79)_ “Say: ‘All things are from ALLAH’” _(al-Nisa’ 4:78)_, i.e., everything happens by the will and decree of ALLAH, which applies to the righteous and evildoer, to the believer and disbeliever, alike. ‘Ali ibn Abi Talhah said, narrating from Ibn ‘Abbas: “Say: ‘All things are from ALLAH” i.e., both good and bad. Al-Hasan al-Basri said something similar. And if any athiest says, why did GOD make the feeling of pain? This is the most dumbest thought ever, why? The feeling pain is means to save or protect yourself, how? Had someone been wounded in place they could not see such as on their back, _(and if people had no feeling of pain)_ then the wounded person would not know that they are injured and potentially could be at the risk of death, hence for any athiest to say in ragards to why do humans or creatures feel pain _(as made by GOD for those creatures)_ is a fallacy and proves the athiests obsession of GOD which is the natural state of mankind to know GOD exists, yet they knowingly deny and defy GOD, and that is their GOD given choice as all things will have a reaction later, due to what they chose to cause upon theirselves. And ALLAH is the Just, the All Knowing. Also bear in mind, the Highest form of Tafsir is when the Quran explains itself. Also read 👇 www.equranlibrary.com/tafseer/maarifulquranenglish/113/2 *And ALLAH Knows best*
He takes the argument that even the animals have morals in their own species and turns this into his own super magic hero mode. That's the new preaching method, just use common sense and science that your religion is the right product for sale, fits even better in black suits.
And you wait for scientific proof or what, animals have morals otherwise they would just their own children...who teached the animal to care for his baby, certainly God has given all species mercy, the same mercy we give to our children, please you stay quiet, because you didn't listen
Amal Hayow Yeah. A magic hero has given them mercy, which we can't know how and when and for which there is absolutely zero evidence, and those who question it should better stay quiet, 'cause we have now these new man in black.
+222amonra it's certainly not your scientific advancement which will prove this. Have you not seen the recents scientific discoveries which again only demonstrates that God almighty is shaping the world.or call him the perfect designer
+222amonra I think you should look at this from the perspective of believing in God, the Creator. I know you don't, but in order for you to understand Hamza better. To the believer, nature is the creation of God and natural events, the formation of ecosystems, the evolution of species even, all of it is not seperated from God and His will. So the reason for using scientific points when discussing religion is very simple. The atheist does not have a monopoly on science and scientific thinking does not exclude the existence of the Creator. From our point of view, it's all God creation. You can explain how an animal grows in the womb, scientifically, but we'd still say that God does it. You can explain, in detail, how rainclouds form and when and how the raindrops fall, and we'd agree with all of it, and still say that God does it. There may be, I'm sure, a scientific approach to explaining why a certain animal won't simply kill another individual of the same species, and you could talk about evolution, survival, common interests, risks involved, etc. and we could agree with all of it, and we'd still say that God does all of this. So there's no reason to forbid a believer to use the natural world in order to explain certain ideas, or to use the natural world to prove certain things, or to use scientific knowledge, or knowledge, specifically obtained through scientific methods, in order for him/her to try and make his/her point. Like I said, the atheist doesn't own the natural world, nor does he own scientifically obtained knowledge, and he can't exclude God from the equation either: so let him (Hamza) talk about the natural world (animals, humans and their psychology, ecosystems, whatever it may be), you can't really argue that this is merely a tactic, or that it's incorrect. If it's incorrect to do so, then explain why this must be so. Being sarcastic and cynical about it doesn't prove anything. And when you claim there is no evidence for the existence of a Creator, then this is just your opinion. Other people disagree. Your opinion isn't absolute truth, it's just the way you view the world. Some people look at the world and say "how can there be a god?!" while others look at the exact same world and go "subhanallah, all praise is for God". It's not the world that is different, it's just their respective perceptions of it and the conclusions they reach. One sees proof for God's existence, the other one does not. So who's right? You're not actually questioning anything. You're ridiculing and rejecting, but you're not providing reasons for why Hamza's worldview is false. And in the end, you really can't provide evidence that the believer is wrong and your worldview is true. I think a lot of this has to do with experiencing the world, and this is a personal matter. When you say there is no evidence for God's existence, then what do you mean when saying "evidence"? Do you mean empirical data? God on videotape? Is this really the extend of your intellectual journey in life? You can't even provide empirical evidence that your great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather ever existed, and you're asking people to prove that God exists? The only reason why you know that this great X10 grandfather of yours really existed, is because you exist now, and the chain of fathers can't be broken, so there must have existed your great X10 grandfather. Everybody would accept that as proof for your ancestor's existence. Nobody would question that. However, that's not empirical evidence. That's a rational argument. A logical reason for excepting something as a fact, as truth. We know and believe that great X10 grandfather once lived, because of a logical argument. We don't have his body, there is no grave, no pictures, no files on him: nothing. And still we know for sure he existed. I'm not comparing God's existence to a creation's existence, this example is simply there to convince you that logical arguments can be just as powerful as empirical evidence (or what people often simply call science, in their ignorance). The existence of the Creator can be logically explained, with rational proofs, and you (the atheist) can not do the same for your fantasy that God does not exist. In other words: you have no empirical evidence that there is no God, and you can't use any logical/rational agruments that would prove that your assumption (that God does not exist) is true. So maybe, at the end of the day, maybe you should keep quiet..
Hamza showed his predjudice against the humanists. And the humanist showed that they did not know much of islam. Islam and humanism have much in common however humanism believes in human rights for all. Islam doesnt.
Islam believes in human rights for all. But wants them to act like humans too, with rules of conduct. Humanists want human rights for all but wouldnt care if they do whatever they want like animals. One uplifts your soul and dignifies you. The other can lead you to become soul less and undignified.
@@FactFusionU No islam doesnt. It only partly does. But it doesnt when it comes to slavery, wife beating, killing of homosexuals under sharia, cruel punishments under sharia and sadly several others. But you do have helping the poor. I will give you that. Islam encourage submisson and obidience. Islam degrades and dehumanize. Its prevelent out through the Quran. Humanism encourages freedom and responsibility. It encourage you to think for yourself. Not blindly follow a rigid system. Humans are animals. That is common knowledge and based on clear and unrefutuable science. Of course we have certain abilities other animals dont and vice versa. You talk of animals as lesser. That reveals your predjudice and feeling of supremacy. We as humans are prone to tribalism and specieism, but we can do better. There are no good evidence for a soul. Just like gods. Its just superstitions as far as i can tell.
@@northernlight8857 The term slavery isnt the same in Islam as it is used in English language. Any serious student of comparative religions should know this. Islam ordained that freeing a slave is a great virtue when the world order was built upon slavery. It was unheard of. Go read up on rights of "slaves" (for the lack of a better english term) in Islam. Public display of homosexuality is considered a sin in Islam. No two ways about it. However, other than sexual restraint, there is no discrimination against people with such feelings. The feeling in itself isnt a sin. The act is. Wife beating isnt allowed if you follow the interpretation of any 4 traditional madahib (largest body). And even the extreme interpretations talk about this beating as "symbolic". Battering anybody is not allowed even by the fringe extreme groups. Again, it will be difficult for you to comrehend the simple fact that as a holistic worldview, Islam promotes harmony and compassion between spouses rather than confrontation and competition. Nitpicking makes things appear uglier than they are. Unfortunately, many anti-islam people deliberately choose to go this way rather than looking at things holistically. Because it is convenient. Cruel punishments under sharia? Lol the punitive laws called hudood are just 4% of the Islamic law. Yet you mention them and ignore the 96% other. Dodgy. Punishments are part of every system. Electric chair, hangings etc arent really humane punishments. You are again and again proving your malicious approach towards dealing with Islamic theology. And i am finding it hard to take you seriously. Islam encourages submission to God. How is that degrading or dehumanizing? Lol if anything, submission to materialism which your lot proposes is dehumanizing because it is submission to the lowest desires of human being. Submission to the ultimate truth, God, is justified because only God is worthy of submission by virtue of Him being the Almighty, most merciful, most just etc. Islam encourages free thought. It encourages us to look for the truth because it is confident that it IS the truth. However, Islam prescribes certain guidelines and morals. The western political and economic thought is devoid of this moral compass and thats why we see so much degeneracy in western world. Absolute filth being promoted in the name of freedom. Ofcourse Humans are superior to other animals. Doesnt mean we dont have to be humane to animals. They have every right to be here as do we. However, humans are indeed superior to other species because they were created for the purpose of finding the ultimate truth and worshipping that truth. If someone says other animals are equal as humans, thats a laughable proposition devoid of rational thought and ridden by post-modern emotion. The evidence of soul appears only to those who keep their hearts open. Not to those whose only reality is the the dust of this world. Open your heart for a few days. To the possibility of a greater power, God. God promises that if you walk towards Him, He will walk towards you with greater pace. Dont be hopeless in His mercy and guidance. Sit down in silence, open your heart, think, contemplate and seek. You werent here to argue on youtube with a nobody. But perhaps it was just a stop before you reached your real purpose.
@@FactFusionU Masha Allah. Thank you very much, for ypu said everything I wanted to say and couldn't. May Allah forgive us and keep us on the straight path.
Moral philosophy 101. The only surprise is a religious person admitting that animals have a form of morals as that is evidence of evolution being the origins of morality
Beeston 01 Out of all these comments I am curious in what you think I created to give me comfort? I don't have any beliefs that would fit that category.
DarkBungleX Just the desperate attempt to interpret or make connection of things that are not there to confirm your own beliefs. You know the one about If animals have a form of morals, therefore it means that humans have evolved from animals because they have morals too. Whether animals haves morals is one things but to assume it's inherited is another thing.
misinformation is what you want to think, you will think you are right just because you think so. people will say you are wrong but you will keep on catering to your own thoughts. my advice dont be trapped by your own thinking but use your eyes to see, your ears to hear, and your heart to feel. hopefully this will help you open the very being that you yourself didnt even know exist inside of you
@@darkerthangray I wasn’t being disingenuous but I was probably being harder on him than I should due to a negative bias. He’s a very intelligent guy and I probably should not dislike him as much as I did.
I love Hamza Yusuf! The way he explains things is just so clear. He never gets mad and he treats people well. May Allah bless you and your family! :)
and you and the entire ummah, ameen! :)
Greekbox Artwork Ameeen!!!
aameen
May Allah send us more scholars like Hamza Yusuf.
Hamza Yusuf is one of best ulama in our generation, jazakallah khayir
Aalim, Hamdaulillah
I can't believe how strong his Arabic is for a Western preacher. God bless him.
The mind is like a parachute if you don't open it it's deadly - wow
+Daffy Duck our brain is like a parachute, it only works when it`s open :)
Hamza Yusuf is one of my best scholars. Frequently I will post his videos on my fb to share.
Hearing his speech is soothing, especially his Arabic.
مثلما قال، كثير من الناس لا يقتنعون بالبراهين والحجج العقلية، يقتنعون بحسن المعاملة. هكذا اسلم كثير من اصحاب النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم
This man is genius, the whole western civilization is in one hand, and Shiekh Hamza Yusuf is in the other....i don't consider him as my guide though. I know others who are greater than him. But still i see in him a big deal of my deepest ambitions.
+unitedware direware who are your guides, send them in to rip his arguments.
+Yueeiuyoo I wish could but I live in Syria, so it is almost impossible to collect them together.
+Sultan Mehmet II yes
what do you mean "guide" every human being has mistakes except prophet Muhammad (saw). we can take knowledge and benefit from people but not blindly follow them. only Muhammad (saw)
Yes you are right
he should have his own TV show on CNN and FOX
the zionist who control media dont agree
CNN and fox do not deserve him. Their credibility is non-existing.
@@saadkhawar8039 CNN and Fox news is owned by big corporations they potray muslims as evil but most muslims are good people, the reason they hate them is because islam is the only religion where 'most' of the followeres stay away from thr big sins or know they are bad
Mashallah Hamza Yusuf, i envy your akhirra. Inshallah god will grant you paradise for all the good things you have done in the name of your lord. Peace.
TheBuy More you never know- your akhirah might be better than his
"Someone will be gathered with the person he loves", (Sayidinna Muhammad PBUH)
Insya Allah we will be gathered with sayidinna Muhammad PBUH and ulama...including syekh Hamza Yusuf. Aamiin
RESPECT, Shaykh Hamza Yusuf. I believe he's already achieve a highest MAQAM. What a beautiful human being from inside and outside.
*SYARIAT >> TAREQAT >> HAQIQAT >> MA'RIFAT* = *ONENESS.*
_Iman+Islam+Ihsan = Aqidah+Fiqh+Tasawwuf._
What he’s talking about is fitra and the human innate nature of justice which is amazing to even think about
MashaAllah Sheikh Hamza, u r the best scholar of our generation. May Allah continue to give u his blessings
I love hamza yusuf.May ALLAH protect him
I like this brother very much may Allah keep us all safe
I think his manner of speech & the way he delivers his message is comandable, & 2 do that a person needs some skills which Hamza Yusuf has but most ppl lack it.
I wish I had some1 like him in my life who would correct my thinking & metality, by explaining things that r beyond my reach, & i know I could be that person 4 myself 2 but it's nice 2 live in that kind of company. I hope wht i said makes sense or may be it's just like he said I too am a Philosopher lol.
He makes it seem soo easy ma sha Allah love him, may Allah bless him. Ameen
13:04 what a beautiful point he made.
The word "Bashar" is used for human being but in actual fact it means skin.
If you look at the animals then they are either covered by fur, feathers, hair fibre etc.
But Allah didnt want to make us like animals. That is why he covered us with skin bcoz human being is a lofty creation
This is more of a discussion than a debate. Debates can be problematic sometimes beacause they can have an egotistical sense and may repel some good listeners and intellectuals with good hearts who really want to know and learn, and at the same time debates can attract some egocentric people who just love drama combined with their intellect looking to just win and feel good about themselves. That's why discussions like this are beautiful and actually serve Dawah more than debates. They give the peace of mind to think and contemplate on what is being said without getting agitated.
Couldn’t have said it better alhamdulillah
may Allah bless him with immense knowledge!
How did I just discover him today?? I’ve been watching pretty much NAK all this while
I wish we had subtitles for Arabic in this video!
You have now
I thought "great, there are subtitles" then I started to read them...
المحبة هي اساس الدين.
The mind is like a parachute. Keep it open. 👍
Allahumma bareek
When Sheikh Hamza Yusuf does it. It’s a
Group of them vs him alone.
Sheikh Hamza Yusuf trying to explain to an atheist - they will send him round the bend !!!
A personal pet peev of mine is : It is better for someone to finish their thought, before asking the next question. Even many so called journalist do this
can anyone translate this English?Conversation looks immensely interesting
Subhanallah his Arabic is fluent
wish there were sub title for Arabic
اللهم صل وسلم على سيدنا ومولانا محمد عبدك ورسولك النبي الأمي وعلى آله وصحبه وسلم
His Arabic is so mesmorizing
Islamic HD---the title you posted here ; ie, Hamza Yusuf debates is unfair n unjust if the Hamza himself dislikes n abhores argumentation, debate and you ought to edit n change the given word " debates"
Please,
Thank you
التفاهم يوصلك إلى بر الأمان والتكيد يكاد بك الرحمن ومن حمى نفسه وحم لحلمه وما التوحم بالكورنيش يدكورُ وما التدوير بالدورة عند معارفي تتفنن من تنتيف الثقافه المصرية بالسفارة الكويتية أداة الثقافات نعلمك ان ثقافتنا تعطيك ولكن لا تشارك كربلا
can someone translate?
This guy is a genius
Enter Shamsi from SPUBS
The way the Ram go battle each other yes i agree
What about the nature of Snakes they will Eat and swallow the smaller Snakes just Like human beings.
he just fucking wash out them
(1:51)
(4:50)
Hmm I was expecting something more serious. Debating someone with a real bite like Dawkins or Sam Harris... Not some random girl(with all respect).
Dawkins is a journalist, and Harris’ PhD isn’t a good one either
Truth is based on FACT and the reality of what-is. It is NOT based on faith or a belief system. When people speak of god they speak about their beliefs in a concept of god. Beliefs are beliefs, not facts. Religious concepts of god are man-created, not fact!
Agreed. But "no god" is as good a belief as "god". What is absolute truth, then?
Islam is a rational belief system. It's not based on blind "faith" as you indicated. Perhaps other faiths are blind faiths, but not Islam. There is a system that governs the universe as Musleh Essa explained.
A belief does not need proof to be true. However it does need reasoning. And Islam's reasons for it's authenticity is really something else. Out of this world you could say. Look into it and open your mind.
*Why Suffering/evil poses a Problem for Atheists?*
We do not think this is an issue for the athiest and is only an excuse they to try make in order seem as if it validates their lying stance in defiance of GOD. Why do We think this?
Because most of the suffering and pain people go through is not done by GOD on them in some supernatural way, rather it is the doing of people upon people, not done by GOD on to HIS creation.
Thus, in Surah Falaq, "...from the evil of whatever HE has created,..."
Which means, "...from the evil of whatever _(comes out from what)_ HE has created,..."
and supposedly if it is not meant this, then it would supposely mean that ALLAH/GOD is evil and does evil upon HIS creatures, as for the reasons why athiest always say, IF ALLAH is a Merciful Deity/GOD, then why is there evil, suffering, pain etc. in the world, implying as if evil comes from ALLAH, and without a doubt, ALLAH is the GOOD, the MERCIFUL, and not evil.
Further more
"but whatever of evil befalls you, is from yourself” _(al-Nisa’ 4:79)_, means that calamities, which are referred to here as “evil”, are created by mankind himself.
And
“And whatever of misfortune befalls you, it is because of what your hands have earned. And He pardons much” _(al-Shoora 42:30)_.
When ALLAH Ta’ala intended to create each thing, HE determined when it would come into existence and when it would cease to exist. HE also determined its qualities and nature. In addition, everything in the universe, the seen and the unseen, is completely subject to the Power of ALLAH. Nothing can happen outside the will of ALLAH Ta’ala.
Hence only by ALLAH's Will is any mind, wind, angel, etc. able to do anything, as per nature of the creation that ALLAH/GOD has made, and not that evil comes from ALLAH, rather its in the nature of creation _(mainly man and jinn, otherwise only by men and jinn)_ who do evil, wickedness, cause sufferring, and that it is not of ALLAH's doing,
but only that ALLAH has allowed such to be since that is what those creatures of HIS intend to do, whilst know,
"What comes to you of good is from ALLAH , but what comes to you of evil, _(O mankind)_, is from yourself. And WE have sent you, _(O Beloved Prophet S.A.W)_, to the people as a Messenger, and sufficient is ALLAH as Witness." _(Quran, 4:79)_
“Say: ‘All things are from ALLAH’” _(al-Nisa’ 4:78)_, i.e., everything happens by the will and decree of ALLAH, which applies to the righteous and evildoer, to the believer and disbeliever, alike. ‘Ali ibn Abi Talhah said, narrating from Ibn ‘Abbas: “Say: ‘All things are from ALLAH” i.e., both good and bad. Al-Hasan al-Basri said something similar.
And if any athiest says, why did GOD make the feeling of pain? This is the most dumbest thought ever, why?
The feeling pain is means to save or protect yourself, how?
Had someone been wounded in place they could not see such as on their back, _(and if people had no feeling of pain)_ then the wounded person would not know that they are injured and potentially could be at the risk of death, hence for any athiest to say in ragards to why do humans or creatures feel pain _(as made by GOD for those creatures)_ is a fallacy and proves the athiests obsession of GOD which is the natural state of mankind to know GOD exists, yet they knowingly deny and defy GOD, and that is their GOD given choice as all things will have a reaction later, due to what they chose to cause upon theirselves.
And ALLAH is the Just, the All Knowing.
Also bear in mind, the Highest form of Tafsir is when the Quran explains itself.
Also read 👇
www.equranlibrary.com/tafseer/maarifulquranenglish/113/2
*And ALLAH Knows best*
كربلا تعني بالرك
It is pretty amazing how this man was unable to create even the slightest coherent argument. 100% fallacy.
Please name what fallacy
He takes the argument that even the animals have morals in their own species and turns this into his own super magic hero mode.
That's the new preaching method, just use common sense and science that your religion is the right product for sale, fits even better in black suits.
And you wait for scientific proof or what, animals have morals otherwise they would just their own children...who teached the animal to care for his baby, certainly God has given all species mercy, the same mercy we give to our children, please you stay quiet, because you didn't listen
Amal Hayow Yeah. A magic hero has given them mercy, which we can't know how and when and for which there is absolutely zero evidence, and those who question it should better stay quiet, 'cause we have now these new man in black.
+222amonra it's certainly not your scientific advancement which will prove this. Have you not seen the recents scientific discoveries which again only demonstrates that God almighty is shaping the world.or call him the perfect designer
Amal Hayow o, what are they, where is it published, tell me.your source.
+222amonra I think you should look at this from the perspective of believing in God, the Creator. I know you don't, but in order for you to understand Hamza better. To the believer, nature is the creation of God and natural events, the formation of ecosystems, the evolution of species even, all of it is not seperated from God and His will. So the reason for using scientific points when discussing religion is very simple. The atheist does not have a monopoly on science and scientific thinking does not exclude the existence of the Creator. From our point of view, it's all God creation. You can explain how an animal grows in the womb, scientifically, but we'd still say that God does it. You can explain, in detail, how rainclouds form and when and how the raindrops fall, and we'd agree with all of it, and still say that God does it. There may be, I'm sure, a scientific approach to explaining why a certain animal won't simply kill another individual of the same species, and you could talk about evolution, survival, common interests, risks involved, etc. and we could agree with all of it, and we'd still say that God does all of this. So there's no reason to forbid a believer to use the natural world in order to explain certain ideas, or to use the natural world to prove certain things, or to use scientific knowledge, or knowledge, specifically obtained through scientific methods, in order for him/her to try and make his/her point. Like I said, the atheist doesn't own the natural world, nor does he own scientifically obtained knowledge, and he can't exclude God from the equation either: so let him (Hamza) talk about the natural world (animals, humans and their psychology, ecosystems, whatever it may be), you can't really argue that this is merely a tactic, or that it's incorrect. If it's incorrect to do so, then explain why this must be so. Being sarcastic and cynical about it doesn't prove anything. And when you claim there is no evidence for the existence of a Creator, then this is just your opinion. Other people disagree. Your opinion isn't absolute truth, it's just the way you view the world. Some people look at the world and say "how can there be a god?!" while others look at the exact same world and go "subhanallah, all praise is for God". It's not the world that is different, it's just their respective perceptions of it and the conclusions they reach. One sees proof for God's existence, the other one does not. So who's right? You're not actually questioning anything. You're ridiculing and rejecting, but you're not providing reasons for why Hamza's worldview is false. And in the end, you really can't provide evidence that the believer is wrong and your worldview is true. I think a lot of this has to do with experiencing the world, and this is a personal matter. When you say there is no evidence for God's existence, then what do you mean when saying "evidence"? Do you mean empirical data? God on videotape? Is this really the extend of your intellectual journey in life? You can't even provide empirical evidence that your great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather ever existed, and you're asking people to prove that God exists? The only reason why you know that this great X10 grandfather of yours really existed, is because you exist now, and the chain of fathers can't be broken, so there must have existed your great X10 grandfather. Everybody would accept that as proof for your ancestor's existence. Nobody would question that. However, that's not empirical evidence. That's a rational argument. A logical reason for excepting something as a fact, as truth. We know and believe that great X10 grandfather once lived, because of a logical argument. We don't have his body, there is no grave, no pictures, no files on him: nothing. And still we know for sure he existed. I'm not comparing God's existence to a creation's existence, this example is simply there to convince you that logical arguments can be just as powerful as empirical evidence (or what people often simply call science, in their ignorance). The existence of the Creator can be logically explained, with rational proofs, and you (the atheist) can not do the same for your fantasy that God does not exist. In other words: you have no empirical evidence that there is no God, and you can't use any logical/rational agruments that would prove that your assumption (that God does not exist) is true. So maybe, at the end of the day, maybe you should keep quiet..
Hamza showed his predjudice against the humanists. And the humanist showed that they did not know much of islam. Islam and humanism have much in common however humanism believes in human rights for all. Islam doesnt.
Islam believes in human rights for all. But wants them to act like humans too, with rules of conduct. Humanists want human rights for all but wouldnt care if they do whatever they want like animals. One uplifts your soul and dignifies you. The other can lead you to become soul less and undignified.
@@FactFusionU No islam doesnt. It only partly does. But it doesnt when it comes to slavery, wife beating, killing of homosexuals under sharia, cruel punishments under sharia and sadly several others. But you do have helping the poor. I will give you that.
Islam encourage submisson and obidience. Islam degrades and dehumanize. Its prevelent out through the Quran.
Humanism encourages freedom and responsibility. It encourage you to think for yourself. Not blindly follow a rigid system.
Humans are animals. That is common knowledge and based on clear and unrefutuable science. Of course we have certain abilities other animals dont and vice versa. You talk of animals as lesser. That reveals your predjudice and feeling of supremacy. We as humans are prone to tribalism and specieism, but we can do better.
There are no good evidence for a soul. Just like gods. Its just superstitions as far as i can tell.
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The term slavery isnt the same in Islam as it is used in English language. Any serious student of comparative religions should know this. Islam ordained that freeing a slave is a great virtue when the world order was built upon slavery. It was unheard of. Go read up on rights of "slaves" (for the lack of a better english term) in Islam.
Public display of homosexuality is considered a sin in Islam. No two ways about it. However, other than sexual restraint, there is no discrimination against people with such feelings. The feeling in itself isnt a sin. The act is.
Wife beating isnt allowed if you follow the interpretation of any 4 traditional madahib (largest body). And even the extreme interpretations talk about this beating as "symbolic". Battering anybody is not allowed even by the fringe extreme groups. Again, it will be difficult for you to comrehend the simple fact that as a holistic worldview, Islam promotes harmony and compassion between spouses rather than confrontation and competition. Nitpicking makes things appear uglier than they are. Unfortunately, many anti-islam people deliberately choose to go this way rather than looking at things holistically. Because it is convenient.
Cruel punishments under sharia? Lol the punitive laws called hudood are just 4% of the Islamic law. Yet you mention them and ignore the 96% other. Dodgy. Punishments are part of every system. Electric chair, hangings etc arent really humane punishments. You are again and again proving your malicious approach towards dealing with Islamic theology. And i am finding it hard to take you seriously.
Islam encourages submission to God. How is that degrading or dehumanizing? Lol if anything, submission to materialism which your lot proposes is dehumanizing because it is submission to the lowest desires of human being. Submission to the ultimate truth, God, is justified because only God is worthy of submission by virtue of Him being the Almighty, most merciful, most just etc.
Islam encourages free thought. It encourages us to look for the truth because it is confident that it IS the truth. However, Islam prescribes certain guidelines and morals. The western political and economic thought is devoid of this moral compass and thats why we see so much degeneracy in western world. Absolute filth being promoted in the name of freedom.
Ofcourse Humans are superior to other animals. Doesnt mean we dont have to be humane to animals. They have every right to be here as do we. However, humans are indeed superior to other species because they were created for the purpose of finding the ultimate truth and worshipping that truth. If someone says other animals are equal as humans, thats a laughable proposition devoid of rational thought and ridden by post-modern emotion.
The evidence of soul appears only to those who keep their hearts open. Not to those whose only reality is the the dust of this world. Open your heart for a few days. To the possibility of a greater power, God. God promises that if you walk towards Him, He will walk towards you with greater pace. Dont be hopeless in His mercy and guidance. Sit down in silence, open your heart, think, contemplate and seek. You werent here to argue on youtube with a nobody. But perhaps it was just a stop before you reached your real purpose.
@@FactFusionU Masha Allah. Thank you very much, for ypu said everything I wanted to say and couldn't. May Allah forgive us and keep us on the straight path.
@@FactFusionU Mashallah, may Allah grant you jannah
Moral philosophy 101. The only surprise is a religious person admitting that animals have a form of morals as that is evidence of evolution being the origins of morality
It's interesting you interpreted what he said this way when he couldn't have put it more clearly. You interpret things to your liking.
you've created a thought to give you comfort.
+DarkBungleX cool story
Beeston 01 Out of all these comments I am curious in what you think I created to give me comfort?
I don't have any beliefs that would fit that category.
DarkBungleX Just the desperate attempt to interpret or make connection of things that are not there to confirm your own beliefs. You know the one about If animals have a form of morals, therefore it means that humans have evolved from animals because they have morals too. Whether animals haves morals is one things but to assume it's inherited is another thing.
Mostly fallacious arguments, young adults don’t have the experience and knowledge to recognize fallacies
Lol
What kind of debate is that? Enjoy your misinformation! Animals don’t kill their own kind?!?! Better start studying more Hamza. Simply not true.
Clown
misinformation is what you want to think, you will think you are right just because you think so. people will say you are wrong but you will keep on catering to your own thoughts.
my advice dont be trapped by your own thinking but use your eyes to see, your ears to hear, and your heart to feel. hopefully this will help you open the very being that you yourself didnt even know exist inside of you
@@catatonic8313 I appreciate the good will but Hamza is disingenuous
where did he say “all” animals, as you’re implying he claimed? you call him disingenuous but you are acting intellectually dishonestly yourself
@@darkerthangray I wasn’t being disingenuous but I was probably being harder on him than I should due to a negative bias. He’s a very intelligent guy and I probably should not dislike him as much as I did.