This is exactly why OLED + touch screen is a complete non-starter for me. The screen door effect completely ruins the quality of the screen. I don't understand why so many manufacturers are putting touch screens on OLED panels that are marketed to creators. 100% color accuracy doesn't mean anything if there's a visible patchwork of wires in front of it. These days: if you want an OLED screen make sure it's non-touch. If you must have touch, get mini-LED or even old-school IPS rather than OLED
how do oled phone displays work then? Why we don’t see such effect on phones with oled touchscreen screens. I think it’s possible to do the same with laptops but more expensive
But is mini-LED somehow better in this area? I wanted to go with ASUS ROG Flow X16 GV601VU but it also has a touch screen. Mini LED doesn't have this screen door effect?
Question...how silent is when plugged in and running office apps - word/excel pdf files, lots of chrome tabs etc.? So, not in performance mode, but in ballanced? Do you hear the fans in an annoying way? Thx!
Oof, this laptop really looks good on paper for what I'm looking to buy, but that screen door effect you mentioned just tutned me off. Is it just the touchscreen version?
Have the same model can’t even notice it from the average distant you’d be looking at it from unless you use it with a 20-25cm gap in between you and the laptop I don’t think you’ll mind
I think some people are sensitive to that but some people are not. Actually, a lot of laptops with touch screen does have effect. I didn't notice that in the past, but somehow, I have tried a bunch of touch-screen laptops in the past few years, and I started to notice that all have this screen door effect, which drove me crazy. I am pretty psychological aspect may some play some parts of it. You can solve this problem by simply going for a non-touch screen, and after so many of having touchscreen in my laptop, I don't ever think it is necessary at all. Touchscreen only matters if you want to do some creative works on your laptop like drawing.
Im on 13 Zenbook 13 um5302. I never noticed the screen door affect. I think I see it, although im not very sure. I don't see it at all really. And im wondering if it is worse on the 14 Zenbook compared to my version. I want to upgrade to this because the 90hz, better battery. Wish was 13 inch, I like small laptop. I think mine has screen door, like I've thought about it before but looked past it, and now way to used to it .
I think some people are sensitive to that but some people are not. Actually, a lot of laptops with touch screen does have effect. I didn't notice that in the past, but somehow, I have tried a bunch of touch-screen laptops in the past few years, and all have this screen door effect, which is driving me crazy. You can solve this problem by simply going for a non-touch screen, and after so many of having touchscreen in my laptop, I don't ever think it is necessary at all. Touchscreen only matters if you want to do some creative works on your laptop like drawing.
Amd but the 7030 zen 3 is much weaker than intel 13th gen H series so that depends Intel: latest technology, faster performance, shorter battery life Amd: rebranded 5600u and 5800u which is a 2 years old technology, slower performance, longer battery life For reference, 13700h is up to 80% faster than 7730u 13500h us up to 50% faster than 7530u (but the 13500h and 13700h seems to have limited tdp, maybe 25w on this ultrabook so expect slower performance compared to 45w on gaming laptop)
@@MTN1601 power efficiency. you are not really comparing apples to apples since I doubt anyone would run intel on max power consumption qs fan would be jet engine. so in my mind the real question is how intel would perform at the similar level of watt consumption which yields comfortable fan noise (
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The deal breakers for me are -: No FreeSync support and "screen door effect" on the display.
Just picked one up and it's a damn good laptop.
This video helped me a lot and lead me to your discord - thank you!
Nice!
where do you find the non-touch model though????????????????????????????????
Thank you so much for a thorough review. Great job.
Little advice: turn off the lights behind you while taking laptop screen shots:)
I noticed this as well.
Thank you very much for showing screen door effect. Dealbreaker for me. Will go with macbook safe choice
LOL the woke laptop maker. You must eat soy
what resolution were you testing witcher 3 on? I mean it's pretty amazing result to get 54 fps out of this iGPU
What's the best Asus for work in Adobe WITHOUT a touch screen? This screen door effect is ruining perfectly good machine :///
Excellent review
Thanks, hope it was useful
Kind of weird how the vivobook 15 with the same resolution doesnt have the screen door even with lower dpi
This is exactly why OLED + touch screen is a complete non-starter for me. The screen door effect completely ruins the quality of the screen. I don't understand why so many manufacturers are putting touch screens on OLED panels that are marketed to creators. 100% color accuracy doesn't mean anything if there's a visible patchwork of wires in front of it.
These days: if you want an OLED screen make sure it's non-touch. If you must have touch, get mini-LED or even old-school IPS rather than OLED
Agreed 100%
stupid people buy these screens, returning mine now
how do oled phone displays work then? Why we don’t see such effect on phones with oled touchscreen screens. I think it’s possible to do the same with laptops but more expensive
But is mini-LED somehow better in this area? I wanted to go with ASUS ROG Flow X16 GV601VU but it also has a touch screen. Mini LED doesn't have this screen door effect?
I retuned a my old laptop for that reason.
Question...how silent is when plugged in and running office apps - word/excel pdf files, lots of chrome tabs etc.? So, not in performance mode, but in ballanced? Do you hear the fans in an annoying way? Thx!
Who has a link for the the non-touch model please?
I had a Lenovo Legion with the mesh screen look really really bad. I ended up liking it over time.
I have the non-touch screen version and the screen is perfect. It's a samsung panel and I do not see any screen door effects,
Yep it’s a touch issue from what I’ve been gathering on my discord
In trouble between amd version 7730u or intel 1260p 😢
Amd will have better graphics but it won’t matter too much in the end. Get whichever
I think 7730u is better than 1260p so go with amd
Hey Buddy, how long before the E16 review goes up. I’m counting on you before I pull the trigger on it. Thanks
Going to work on it hopefully for tomorrow or the next day. Sorry swamped.
Oof, this laptop really looks good on paper for what I'm looking to buy, but that screen door effect you mentioned just tutned me off. Is it just the touchscreen version?
ASUS non touch oleds are the way to go. No screen door. I would highly Recommend the non touch variant of this exact laptop
Have the same model can’t even notice it from the average distant you’d be looking at it from unless you use it with a 20-25cm gap in between you and the laptop I don’t think you’ll mind
I think some people are sensitive to that but some people are not. Actually, a lot of laptops with touch screen does have effect. I didn't notice that in the past, but somehow, I have tried a bunch of touch-screen laptops in the past few years, and I started to notice that all have this screen door effect, which drove me crazy. I am pretty psychological aspect may some play some parts of it. You can solve this problem by simply going for a non-touch screen, and after so many of having touchscreen in my laptop, I don't ever think it is necessary at all. Touchscreen only matters if you want to do some creative works on your laptop like drawing.
what about intel i7 , 1250p (12th gen) ?
How does this laptop compare with the Lenovo Yoga Pro 7 Laptop (14ARP8) ? I'm looking to use for art/creation/business with occasional gaming.
It doesn’t really. The yoga 7 pro is much better (I have a review of that coming, it’s already recorded)
@@TechGuyBeau Thanks! Looking forward to it, as / if / when it drops 👍
Im on 13 Zenbook 13 um5302. I never noticed the screen door affect. I think I see it, although im not very sure. I don't see it at all really. And im wondering if it is worse on the 14 Zenbook compared to my version. I want to upgrade to this because the 90hz, better battery. Wish was 13 inch, I like small laptop. I think mine has screen door, like I've thought about it before but looked past it, and now way to used to it .
I think some people are sensitive to that but some people are not. Actually, a lot of laptops with touch screen does have effect. I didn't notice that in the past, but somehow, I have tried a bunch of touch-screen laptops in the past few years, and all have this screen door effect, which is driving me crazy. You can solve this problem by simply going for a non-touch screen, and after so many of having touchscreen in my laptop, I don't ever think it is necessary at all. Touchscreen only matters if you want to do some creative works on your laptop like drawing.
i have exactly the same laptop but it does not have touch !!
That’s better. If it didn’t have touch the screen would be superb
I wanna buy this for my sister. Can you share the link please
Which country though?
Canada
Hi, is goog for programing and casual gaming??
Ya very goog
Excelent review for me the deal breaker is the 32 gbs and, why not use the new zenbook features like 13 and 15. but oh well
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Which is better in terms of longevity, battery and performance. Zenbook 14 OLED (AMD Ryzen 5 7530U or Ryzen 7 7730U ) or 14x ( I5-13500H or i7-13700H)
Amd
Amd but the 7030 zen 3 is much weaker than intel 13th gen H series so that depends
Intel: latest technology, faster performance, shorter battery life
Amd: rebranded 5600u and 5800u which is a 2 years old technology, slower performance, longer battery life
For reference, 13700h is up to 80% faster than 7730u
13500h us up to 50% faster than 7530u (but the 13500h and 13700h seems to have limited tdp, maybe 25w on this ultrabook so expect slower performance compared to 45w on gaming laptop)
@@MTN1601 power efficiency. you are not really comparing apples to apples since I doubt anyone would run intel on max power consumption qs fan would be jet engine. so in my mind the real question is how intel would perform at the similar level of watt consumption which yields comfortable fan noise (
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