Log Home Media Blasting and Staining DIY Part1
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Just some crude DIY videos I nabbed while restoring a log home I recently purchased. It's a big job but can be done yourself with the right planning and an ambitious work ethic! Hope these videos help give some insight on the basic steps to restoring your log home.
If you have questions I'll do my best to get answers back in a timely manner.
What a beautiful job you did. I built a log home 30 years ago and it has held up but I am considering media blasting this summer. Your videos have been inspirational! Best, Gail
Thanks for the information dude, appreciate it .
Grinder with a 60 grit is just as quick and leaves a nicer finish
Hi Ben, thanks for the info. After weeks researching UA-cam/internet, your video has been the most helpful getting necessary equipment and supplies! I purchased an ALC 150 lb blast pot and medium grit crushed glass (Clean Bite). In a small test section, the glass is chewing up the logs, pretty badly. Logs are pine and still in good condition. I've had PSI between 70-80 with the 5/32 nozzle. Previous owner used WeatherSeal stain for decades. The stain is coming off quickly between the grains, but the stain on the grains of the logs are very slow to have any effect of removal. Looks like you breezed right through your project. I keep reading where PSI should be between 50-70 for log stain removal, but other DIY forums suggest 80 PSI. Since the media is chewing up the wood, should I change to fine grit media, or back off the PSI? Thanks Ben.
Hey it's been a longggg time since I did this project so pressures aren't real fresh in my mind. I trust that you experimented with the nozzle distance to the logs and also are keeping the nozzle at a fairly aggressive angle (25+ degrees). But yeah I'd say you've got the right idea to try a lower pressure first then maybe a finer glass. I was pretty lucky as the logs were in overall really good shape after the blast, the brushing was almost unnecessary. Best of luck!
@Ben Bissett what can you do if someone used 2 different types of stain and the media is just bouncing off and not cutting
Blast media is off the chart expensive now over twice what it cost me for a 50lb bag. Plus it makes a mess it gets into everything. Your windows if not perfectly sealed will get all crunchy. Any cars in the area will get the glass all scratched up the second you open the windows. Anything it comes in contact with that's lubricated will have media stuck to it. I'd use the stripper chemicals sandblasting can be a real nightmare.
Can you provide a list of the products you used?
Ben, nice job on the restoration and video overall. Can you ellaborate more on the make/model of that "Osborne" brush that you are using?
Thank you.
+Western Canada Soda Blasting Thanks! Pretty sure the brush was an 80 or 100 grit 6 inch brush I snagged from Amazon most likely. To be honest I didn't spend much time on that step other than hitting some key areas as I was slightly overwhelmed from other parts of the project lol worked nicely though. The media didn't seem to tear things up too bad.
+Ben Bissett
Thanks for the solid reply Ben. It's 50-50 if the logs need the Osborne brush or further grinding or sanding after blasting.
Let us know if you have any blasting questions we might be able to help you out on that end.
Where are you located by the way Ben?
Western Canada Soda Blasting
I'm in western Pennsylvania. Thanks for the offer but hopefully I never have to media blast anything again for the rest of my life!
What size blast nozel did you use with the glass media?
I was told only to use corn cob media on a log cabin. How many bags of media did you use?
Ahh dang it's been a long time since this project, I know it was at least a full pallet of bags but not sure just how many that was. Maybe 25-30?
Appreciate you posting these vids, they have been a huge help for me in doin my own log home.
Two quick questions: What size nozzle did you use in the sprayer? And, would you be interested in selling and shipping your sprayer?
Thanks
Happy the video helped! It's been a while but I think I used a 1/8" ceramic nozzle on the blast hose. I do still have the media blaster and would be interested in selling but with shipping it may not be much cheaper than buying a new one directly from Brut.
@@benbissett3105 what size brut did you use? leah
I am getting ridiculous quotes to do my 1300 SQ foot log cabin. I'm getting 10k+ just to wash and stain it. I'm considering media blasting it and basically doing as you did. Any rough idea on labor hours to complete yours? It looks great
Thank you. Tim
10k might not be all that bad if they do the job correctly. Have you ever stripped an entire house and stained it? It's a lot of work. Try something small like a piece of furniture and you'll see quickly it's not easy.
What model is that Brut Blaster unit? The 99 or the 101? Not sure if i need to spend the extra money on the 101 if you recommend the water seperator. Thanks!
+William Galonek I've got the 101H with the water separator. Pretty sure it has a more aggressive ceramic nozzle too. I recommend you have them add a few extra nozzles plus a few extra metal inserts that connect the nozzle to the hose, the abrasives will eat through that stuff after a while.
Thanks Ben! Much appreciated.
Bill.
Hey Ben, I am about to embark on refinishing my log home in central new york. Im researching different blast methods, this media looks good and the price is right. I can't seem to find the website for it though? Does it still exist? Thanks
Hi Ben, we just bought a 40 yr old flat log home. We are a bit older:) but, can not afford the prices we have been quoted to glass blast, spot sand, wash, dry, stain and seal. One question we have is how long does this all take? What if we can't do this seamlessly.....in other words over several weeks due to work etc. What is the sequence with time breaks due to life? Also can you list the steps that you use...video is great but, could use step by step etc. with list of the products you use. Do you have a website? Let us know. Happy Fathers Day!!! Leah
Inspired by Ben's videos, we did our log home ourselves. The blasting and staining went faster than I thought (2 days blasting, a smallish cabin, not very large home). I bought the same blaster he did, also used crushed glass. I took 2 wks off of work, but could have done it in 1 wk. The weather cooperated, too. Anyway, with the project done, I'd be happy to sell you my blaster. Bought it for about $800 + shipping, would sell it for less. Worked great. had to mess with the valves a little to hit the sweet spot, but it was easy.
@@pk710929 hi I’m interested in your blaster and to pick your brain on tips and tricks.. we just bought a log home and thinking about doing it my self.
@@BC_LLLL Ah, I found it. Yes, happy to talk. send me a private message somehow (facebook? Phil Krause, Buchanan, MI), and I can show you photos, etc.
What quote ranges are you getting? Thank you. Tim
Ben great videos buddy. I'm looking to restore my log home myself like you did. I'm stumped on your blasting set up. I know your running a Brut 101h with a 185cfm compressor. I called brut for their requirements on CFMs for the 101h and they said that the brut dosn't have that big a nozzle for the speed that I believe you were doing your blasting at. With the 1/4" nozzle that comes with the brut the speed is only 2.5 square feet a min. A lot slower than what your vid is showing. Did you modify yours? Thanks Ben.
Hey great to hear someone else is as crazy as I am for wanting to tackle this job! As for the compressor size Brut actually recommended I rent a diesel air compressor to push the pot. I don't know the air volume used while blasting but the source really needs to be substantial. I'm sure a 185cfm capable compressor is definitely more than enough but I don't know if there's a smaller option available. That 1/4" nozzle running for 5-10 minutes at a time definitely pushed some air so a tank style compressor better be commercial size. Hope that helps and that setup definitely did the job for me. **Also make sure you purchase a few extra nozzles and the hardware surrounding the nozzle from them as they can wear through after a full day of blasting (you don't want to be waiting on a $15 part).
Also when you adjust the actual blast pressure on the pot you only run at like 80-90 psi when blasting.
Hey Ben, do you recall how much you paid to rent the Brut 101h? Awesome video...by the way. You have answered many of our questions. We are seriously considering doing our log home ourselves. It looks like we could save quite a bit of money. We do realize that it is labor intensive but we are good with that. Thanks...Lu
i am looking at tackling this project myself. my log home is two stories. do you have any idea what size diameter hose comes with this unit? im guessing i will need a 50' extension
thanks for the good information in this video!
Hey I believe it's a 1/2" hose. Definitely get a little extra length than you need because the hose can split a few times at both ends throughout the project (anywhere there's a bend in the hose like where it connects to the outlet on the blast pot or where you're holding the nozzle at an angle) and you have to cut away that section.
Thinking about tackling 2,000 square feet of log cabin-how long did the blasting and sealing take you?
Forever! Seriously though, it takes a full day to do each step for 1 or 2 sides of the house if you're basically doing it by mostly by yourself. Since you'll prob only have 1 blast pot, expect to get 1/4-1/2 of the house done in a day. The cleaning/staining/sealing part is obviously way easier and also easier to get help involved. If I used a commercial sprayer and just had someone to help back brush I could have stained the whole house in a day. Best of luck!
I was curious what grit of glass you used and about how many square feet you got per 50lb bag?
Medium grit does the trick. Coverage is really really difficult to gauge as areas like log ends can eat up a ton of media. My flow of media was way too high for most of the first day of blasting so it's important to get the bare minimum of media feed into the hose to get the job done. From the videos you can get an idea of the size of my house and I used around 35 bags... Best to get a whole pallet of 40 bags.
@@benbissett3105 did you consider corn? I have a redwood ceiling to do and am trying to decide. Do you know if crushed glass vs corn would leave the wood smoother?
@@MM-qx4ir I wasn't aware of that option during the project (it was about 7yrs ago). Just looked into glass, walnut blast, and chem strip w/ pressure washing. Sounds like whatever is the least messy in your case!
@@MM-qx4ir we had a guy come out and talk to us about our logs he said that the corn cob and walnut can attract animals and rot that's why the standard is glass now.
Nice e46 m3
Thanks I still got it btw.. I sold the log home but I'll never sell the Bimmer!
How much $ all in on equipment/material?
Good morning Ben who makes the media blaster you are using?
Brutmfg.com
What size media blaster did you use?
Pretty sure it was the Brut 101h (it's been about a decade but I think they still offer that)
Does this work for logs that have been painted too?
Yeah I can't see a reason why it wouldn't
I have that exact same blaster if anyone would like to take it off my hands, contact me, let's talk. Worked great to redo my log cabin exterior.
(only used for the one project...still almost new)
@@pk710929 I might be interested, but not sure how to contact you directly.
I am interested, where are you located?
@@jamesstover7880 Niles, Michigan, not far from South Bend, Indiana.
what stain do you use?
Permachink Ultra-7 in Caramel