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- Опубліковано 1 лют 2016
- There's a power revolution heading for our homes. It's home batteries - the key to the transition from fossil fuels to renewable energy.
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I live on the Campo in Spain, I live totally of grid using solar panels and a wind turbine charging leisure batteries with a charge control system and an inverter for mains power , with a back up Honda generator for the odd dull week , it works perfectly and has done for the last ten years , No Electric Bills at all ////
can't do that in many areas in California, off grid in a city is illegal in most larger cities
phht...how would they know if its in your garage? unless you are dumb enough to have a screaming 200w turbine on your roof annoying your fellow apartment owners...
i am living off grid in the beautiful Colorado mountains. love the video! good luck to all
Here in Canada my wife and I have been off grid since August 2014. Our system has matured and is now running a system that allows us to provide all our power needs that includes shop tools and equipment.
Our battery bank is configured to 24volt system, there are 64 550amp hr. batteries. These are deep cell golf cart batteries, this was the affordable alternative at the time. There are the new batteries that are cheaper and I recommend them for sure. I would also add that a matching wind generator be added this will help cover many of the cloudy days as when it is quite windy when it is cloudy. I have teamed with a solar/wind electrician that has been involved with this energy service for more than 40years. We encourage general/research questions. We have devoted our time and knowledge to the development of alternative energies. If you are considering this alternative energy production for your home, ask lots of questions, find a reputable solar/wind electrician and invest time in researching your proposed project. Enjoy the freedom of change.
Australians have great leadership!?love you!
What's the name of the Co that installed Joshua's Battery system & Do they work in the us?
I would like to see this source of renewable energy flourishing and prominent in Africa and the middle east where there is abundance of sunlight
Roy, we offer all of these solutions only we do not use outdated Lithium-ion technology but Graphene batteries which have over 100.000 chargecycles. In case you have interest please contact me for further info.
Excellent report!
That is the way to go. We are getting notices from PG&E, they are shutting power to some area in the bay and North Bay because of fire hazard. Do your homework and go with system that offers Ac microinverter which is more reliable and of course battery.
Hi, all I'm seeing this on the 07/03/2020 I'm in England and Nathing here.
Is there an update on this video for year 2020? i.e., the status of projects, costs, usage of batteries, etc.
Zigs using 8- 6vt golf cart batteries $800. 14kw panels, total off grid very happy. Use separate 12oo kw 4 panels for grundfos sq pumps 900ft deep pure well waterx runs straight off panels..
I believe by using Insulated Concrete Forms for the exterior walls of a home and Solar roof, you can operate your home and charge your car at the same time .
This same idea has been my dream since for the past 1015 years. I even tried to have my home built with ICFs back in 2011 and everybody from the builder down laughed at me.
It is exciting to see some of the new technologies coming along, clean energy and having some control over our own power. I hate throwing away money for utilities.
This isn't a solution. Batteries have to be replaced because they degrade over time and become unusable.
Ok, it is now March 31, 2019 and this was made over 3 years ago, but it is an excellent overview of the future and uses of battery storage. At first, though, the title is confusing and I thought I was watching a plug for buying batteries for home solar installations without clear cost analysis. There was no cost analysis, but the topic was future battery tech, not cost analysis, and I learned a lot about improvements coming in battery tech. I am in Florida, USA and we are just seeing a solar explosion here because up until about a year ago, you could only buy solar from the big power utilities. But the State changed the rules so now we are being inundated by all sorts of scams, "no money down", etc. This was good reporting without being a tout for solar.
4:16 high 5's for the battery !!
lol
Great insight into the build just subscribed and it’s a nice compact turbine I also have built a homemade 650 watts wind turbine, a treadmill motor turbine and a little but powerful ametek 30v turbine and built 2 diy solar panels, be careful in high winds one of my first turbines blew up 😕and now have only 2 wonderful turbines working daily 😊it’s very satisfying watching those things working, keep up the good work buddy 👍
hows your hearing? those small turbines are a piece of crap usually.
@@Redblower not if you build them yourself i must admit that i have seen alot of crap for sale on ebay etc, always best to build it yourself so maintenance is easier
3:00 hey look, it's Richard Symonds
Just great and I must to have!
I love this , it's really exciting to see this happening and the advantages are massive over coal and other fossil fuels and that includes nuclear , but it even gets better there are even better solar panels and batteries around the corner . there is a new material called graphene that is going to take renewable green energy to whole new level and you know what i don't understand is why we are taking valuable agrarian land for these large solar farms when there's way more rooftops and bridges road side fences in our cities than we would ever need . and that is where the power is needed most and it would also cut down on the massive cost of infrastructure of getting the power where it is needed and when the powers at be finally wake up and start working for the people instead of these multinationals and we the people get the E V revaluation that is happening in China and else wear at the moment that will be the final peace of the puzzle for a much brighter future for the whole of man kind...
Just build your own, not hard to do and doing the build yourself is very rewarding.
03:30 It looks like there are some cable lugs missing in the inverter cabinet and the installer / producer used the wrong screwdriver.
Probably the local electrician who connected the three phases on site (not from the manufacturer)
I seen a house with solar panels for the first time this past weekend. Pretty cool
You can now get the Tesla power wall 2 battery system in one cabinet with 14.5 kilowatt hours of battery capacity utilizing lithium ion batteries. The utility in Australia are now recommending homeowners install the Tesla power wall 2 and using the batteries to feed the grid when needed as several thousand homes with Tesla batteries can replace a coal fired power plant and only uses a small amount of your battery to keep the grid up and running. This isn't a test, this is proven technology and the utility's are embracing this system.
This was posted by me in 4/30/2019
James Shanks Do you know how much? I keep looking but batteries seem difficult to come by.
So in Australia they can back feed the grid?
Cute: the power company WANTS others (customers) to generate and provide electricity to the grid?
What the hell is in it for the power company?
Nothing.
Hello innovation, bye-bye power companies!
The CSIRO says the pay back time on a battery is 17 years with a life expectancy of 10-12 and its manufacturing is more harmful to the environment, if you want to actually be environmentally friendly you should feed back into the grid, fyi the solar expert sites that aren't adverts say the pay back of a battery is 18 years with a life cycle of 9-10 years.
nothing like having a thermite bomb strapped to your stick built home.
Thanks inspiring video
What about battery chemistries that are cheaper / more stable / longer lasting than lithium? Salt water batteries for homes / buildings, or liquid metal for grid storage, are some that seem to have a place.
Mobile devices need light weight and compact batteries; but a building battery can be heavier and / or bulkier.
Old batteries almost forgotten serve longer
shows your ignorance ...
So this was published in 2016, it's now April 2019 and AGL don't actually have a battery / solar offering yet !!!!!
Rump got elected !..........so , the hell with non-oil/coal things !....PERIOD !!!!!
@@waltsnow1762 Youre a fool.
@@waltsnow1762 Coulda been worse Hillary Bloody Hands Clinton coulda been elected Trumps a Stupid Thief Hillarys a Smart one and given a choice I'll take Stupid Thief it's easy to see through n outsmart anytime 0_0
@@Anjanya1948 Yup he's a STUPID Thief whereas Hillary Bloody Hands Clintons a SMART ONE! Now guess which I'd rather be watching? The stupid one of course it's easier to catch him at it!......................................Now where Do Y&ou go from there? Oh yes the Classic Fan/Boy Girl response DENIAL Need I Say More you IDIOT?
vernon jackson Yup, who wants a killer in charge? I'd have chosen Trump any time.
Very informative...
Great video
Nice and sunny there
Awsome video! The only issue is the high cost of the battery!
Sounds wonderful. I am waiting for my batteries. I just wonder what impact battery production and recycling will have on the environment...
OCnStiggs I agree with you. This documentary only brought out the good and advantages of having batteries vs relying on grid . We also need to know the impact of gathering these resources to the environment, lifespan of the battery, how much energy will be put onto recycling and how much waste will be dumped in the environment. These are the critical issues that we also need to weigh as an Renewable Source Energy.
Them awkward high fives though 🤣🤣
I advocate installing minimum of double the PV you think you need. If you are going to cut corners do it on the storage side, use lead acid if it is cheaper over its life cycle. The reason I say this is that you may very well have a plug in hybrid sitting in the driveway soon and that will take a large amount of electricity that the grid is not designed to handle.
Had solar installed 2+ years ago.
The payment on the panels and installation was less than the average electric bill.
No brainer.
AND, after the panels are paid for, free juice from the sun!
Not to mention, solar panels make far better roofs than shingles.
So long, electric company!
Disconnecting from the grid is getting difficult here in the US. Utilities now want $100 per KW of panels on the roof as an "Equipment charge"... Payments for power from the grid? almost Zero. Supply in California is more than needed.. so California PAYS other states to take their power. In that environment, there is no way to pay the individual homeowner or business for the power they generate. Additionally, the duck curve and federal law allows them to actually control the grid connected systems by changing the frequency. Bump to 61 hz, power drops to about 1/4.. go to 62 hz, and your panels generate nothing. The state mandates installing 3-6 -10 KW of solar panels saying "It only adds a few thousand dollars to the price of your house"... like $10k... and then the utility turns it all off. Tesla batteries have a waiting line of about a year at this point.
Billblom are you serious about this stuff?! I’m not in California but you know if it works there it’ll be everywhere soon. So it seems to me you have to go completely off grid or screw it why bother in the first place.
@@prepperjonpnw6482 Very VERY serious. In Florida, if you disconnect from the grid (they get LOTS of sun) -- Florida Power and Light had a law passed that will pull your certificate of occupancy... In other words, the sheriff locks you out of your house. And you have to have a boat load of expense to get "reconnected" -- In California they are pushing the $10 per KW of solar panels in areas in the mountains.. If you don't go with a battery backup, you are in trouble there because when fire danger is high, they simply turn off the grid. California is having a huge problem with the duck curve.. last I heard they were paying surrounding states to take their surplus. They were giving huge rebates, and LOTS of people are solar as a result... The problem: Nukes and big steam plants cannot be stopped and started quickly. So They are pushing everyone in their area to take their power. Now how much do you think PGE and others are paying for solar energy when they have to pay other states to take the surplus?
I have the solution for all you yankees and your power.....get out of the US...its a shithole and the only ones who cant see it are the ones standing in it....
Billblom California is a stupid liberal state that mandated every new house have one of these things. That’s why they have too much solar in California, a state with sunshine year round that mandated solar on every house
@4:32 Jemma like "Oh, YOU'VE done it, have you?"
There are a couple of new kids on the block, both of which can be charged to 100% and used to 0% charge with no deregulation of their capacity over the years. The liquid metal battery is probably not an option for a household due to it's high temperature although it should be great for large scale businesses. The other is the Zinc Bromide flow battery that is actually developed and on the market in Australia. An added advantage of the latter is that is that the battery itself contains a signal generator such that you can use the power when the grid goes down. The battery acts like the grid. In the older more usual solar cell / battery systems, when the grid went down you didn't have power.
We had solar panels installed a little more than a month ago. I wish we had done it sooner. I love to login to solar edge and see how many kWh we have earned. We are not off the grid but hope to earn enough to cover about 90% of our electric bill each year.
I studied sustainability at Lyndon state college. Professor Miller stated in one hour the sun produces more energy than all the coal, Nuclear,and Natural gas combined. These batteries will help us utilize the sun's energy potential! I loved the video!
Amazing Video.....India Should Implement This Technology As Soon As Possible.
What is the brand of the solar battery seen at 3:10
The first thing you can do is try to use more power during the day time. Washing machines, dishwashers, water heating. Storage heaters, charging electric vehicles and any other smaller batteries. Another great idea is to try to get some hot water panels to try to use some power directly from the sun without having to convert it too many times.
nope...you are wrong on so many levels...bad advice
Redblower you're the wrong one! Using power when it's available is the obvious solution, stored power should only be for unavoidable consumption. If consumption is shifted to match production, then the batteries required to sustain the property through the night can be significantly smaller and therefore cheaper.
Ok bingo .good luck.all of the team .you are amazing.and love your job ,and be feel smile and funny in your life
It has been almost 4 years since you launched this video so what happened with the Zinc Bromite battery?
Failure. Only graphene will change things. Samsung has it but only prototipe for phones, and is extremly expencive
Will probably work great there...but living in Nebraska we don't get full sun all the time...
For excess power: Start installing big fans around your power plants and grid systems. The moment you have excess power, the fans switch on and cool down area temperature.
TheAngel207 Fans make no difference to air temperature whatsoever. Pointless.
What is that company that had that smart software with that battery system. Like to to more research on them
Amasing solar energy
Likes from Brasil 🇧🇷
Very.informative
Maybe it can be used with other off grid energy or have multiples as a backup.
that's a basic, yes
Nice job. Might have been an idea to allow cooling air to duct around the cells?
I have a 5.5kw solar system and a powerwall 2 and it covers 98% of my energy needs. if i have 2-3 days of overcast weather i need to tap into the grid. But otherwise i am running my home on sunshine.
cool, what is the cost of the setup?
The Solar system was aprox AU$6500 The battery was almost AU$11000. That was back in September 2016 and i believe the rebate for PV solar has gone down making them more expensive. Also Tesla has increased the price of the Powerwall 2 as the Model 3 has ramped into production.
Well done
@@spawn3418 the Rebates have gone down but the cost of the systems has gone down as well and there efficiency has gone up so its about the same but produces a lot more, batteries are cheaper by a little, but still only have a life cycle of 10-12 years and a pay back time of 17-18 years. I just got solar, because where I live, they have been increasing power costs to offset the government cap and the line cost is a major part of my bill ( living in the country), my system costs 6999 for a 6.6kw system with a premium inverter and very good panels and a trusted company(this cost me $1000, these guys had a 4.9-5 star rating with no bad reviews), the premium panels would have costed 9,500 for LG or 15,000 for American panels, you can get a decent system 6.6 for 4,500-7000, depending on your inverter and panels. So far I predict I will get 100-150 back on my power bills, I would be interested to know how much you save / get back with your battery?
Hi, hows the systems going now? Currently im using just solar light to light up my home, , can you recommend at battery company?
I am in Accra Ghana how do l get this solar battery to buy for my house ... ?
I have researched battery backup to my 14 KW solar system, the Tesla system to accommodate my solar was 25K as per March 2020. I was told that even with the smart gateway and 10KW battery, if mains power failed my batteries switched off and so with the solar. This would leave our home with no power.
This video is an ad for lithium batteries it seems. Having been an off-gridder for over 20 years I would never purchase lithium batteries. It is not cost effective. Lithium batteries are great for EV’s because of the power density but not for solar off grid power. I have seen many reports of low life lead acid batteries. It may be true that some cheap lead acid batteries are out there, but I have had the opportunity to use quality lead acid AGM batteries for over 20 years, that’s a whopping 7000 + cycles. The initial cost is similar to lithium but is far less expensive over time as the lithium life span is about 600 cycles thus making industrial lead acid very cost effective. Just recently I upgraded my off grid power. I am still using solar panels that are over 20 years old, which are performing at 70% of their rated capacity, and added up-graded newer 24 volt panels. I also upgraded to newer industrial lead acid batteries which could have a live span of 17,000 cycles and with a good desulfator they could easily last 50 years. These batteries are not the little go cart batteries but the industrial fork lift type batteries. These batteries will likely be the last I ever purchase. The performance is superior and walks all over lithium batteries. The trick is to use the lead acid battery at 10% - 20% or less with a desulfator. This is easy to figure by just calculating the night time usage and installing batteries at 10 times that. In my case, to use lights, refrigerator, and electronics etc. during the night and most major power use during the day such as pumps, washer, dryer, electric water heaters and so on. My current set is capable of 42kwh (24 volts X 1800 amps) and is currently running @ 100% capacity. Basically I use about 4kw at night, and don’t even use them at 10%, which can be calculated by battery voltage at morning. For example a single battery cell would have a used voltage of 10% at 2.08 volts. Whereas these batteries store a residual daytime voltage when charged during the day and are at full charge of 2.1 volts by morning when they begin to recharge during the day cycle meaning they have no discharge. These batteries are 4 years old and will easily run for another 25 - 30 years. The only drawback is adding distilled water ocassionally, but that is reduced by using hydrocaps. So don’t be fooled by expensive lithium batteries for solar. It’s not cost effective. PEACE
@Jack West --> Thanks for the info. You mentioned "newer industrial lead acid batteries which could have a live span of 17,000 cycles". Would you please let me know the brand?
@@isaacmadhavan Deka I believe Model D
@@jackwest2031 Thank you so much for the info AND for the quick response!
17,000 cycles wow, pls how can one get to buy??? Thank you
@@johnonwoh2586 Hi John, As I mentioned above they are Deka Batteries. Series or model M I believe. You could contact the battery manufacturer directly or find a dealer to research it completely. When I contated the manufacturer I spoke with the assistant in charge of sales. She was very helpful. You may also want to consider using desulfators. I use them and have found great success with batteries that are generally in good condition. They can extent the life of a battery as much as 2 - 3 times. If you think about it, desulfators could extend battery life of your high cycle battery for up to 100 years or more which is crazy. I use Powerpulse brand as they have the most research and success behind them. I use the Battery maintenance system desulfater which come in 12, 24, 36, and 48 volt and are reasonably priced around $40 to $60. I have a desulfator for each battery which are 600 amps at 24 volts for my system. You must be vigilant with acid levels and acid strength keeping it constant. Adding too much distilled water can reduce the potency of the battery and adding too much acid could destroy the plates. Good luck. PEACE
I have been encouraging people to go battery besides solar . the idea being that inverters are safer for your electronics than the grid. Electric companies are not responsible for damages to your electronics .
People that live in third world countries get power irregularly . By going battery it eliminates problems.
It also solves the issues California is having when forest fires require brown out / black outs
arleigh crisman eurosolar
what is average consumption per home in Au?
The beginning of the video, where they discuss selling power to the power company, is not a typical example. Whereas those skewed prices might be true in Australia, here in California the state law mandates that the power company must buy power from us at the full, retail rate. The rates in your own state may vary, so check into it.
Combining wind and solar is the way to go.
I dig this gel battery tech. I want to get ahold of it and use it in various vehicle types!
Gel? dont be a fool....gel is last century rip off stuff
i really wish i could get more involved with things like that. I have observed so much and figured out tiny things on my own, but without access to materials or info. I can't understand it well enough to try to help make a change.
yeah...but you need a brain transplant first...
Plenty of info on the web, browse around.
How much is that battery
Translate cost to 5 years used and replacement cost afterwards
Try researching nickel iron batterys. They last for 50 years and can be discharged to zero without damage, therefore needing only half as many.
I really want to build ab Edison battery just to try it out. I just can't find a good place to get nickel plates.
Ideally i'd want nickel foil and iron foil.
our local power companys ..should expand service to an department that installs solar on your homes ..get into the future ..being a solar company we can trust and maybe make payments too
What's the full cost of the setup? Battery lifespan?how long to make your money back? How good is it in a colder environment?
Medicine Hat in South East Alberta is known to be the sunniest place in North America. It is also famous for Rudyard Kipling's open letter to the world, after visiting here in 1907, suggesting that a place having All Hell For A Basement, with Medicine Hat being its door that it truly did not deserve a new name!
I live in Alice Springs, Northern Territory, and solar power is rare... you'd think that a desert town, with 300 days of uninterrupted sunlight, would be farming this unlimited natural resource!
In November 2018, the cost of a Tesla Powerwall 2 and Gateway in Australia was $12,350 before installation costs. Does anyone have an example calculation for how long the payback period is?
10 or 20 year's
and i don't think you can run the power wall off the main grid. Watch Paul's hardware's videos on youtube.
How much does it cost for the battery systems? Under $10,000. So can I get one of these systems in the United States?
What battery brand was used and where can I get one?
Try the app AliExpress China is making most of the Solar Panels, and batteries too. LiFePo4 are the safest these days.
Is that an exotic marsupial on Josh's head?
Good. Very interest.
Where Sir did you purchase your energy power system in Australia?
EBAY
@@David-te9cw Really? I thought Amazon or Alibaba
Why not Nickel Iron batteries. They last more than 50 to 100yrs, are eco friendly and can be fully discharged without damage. Downside is they are very very heavy and little expensive for now, but much less than a Tesla wall. But hey that last upto 100yrs with minimal maintenance (every 2-3 years a simple catalyst top up).
the problem is that in australia the energy suppliers charge consumers not only on their actual use but also for being connected to the grid (daily supply charge). So even if I don't use grid much I still have to pay these fees if I want to be connected to the grid to back up my solar energy system. rooftop solar systems become more and more popular but it doesn't stop the suppliers to charge more and more as a supply charge so having solar becomes pointless for consumers.
I need info on this for off grid home please.
here you go....byd pro...sunny island and a sunny boy with a pile of panels...then switch off the grid...dont waste money on powerwalls...
What's the cost of the battery?
Excellent
Love to see small towns (say less than 500 citizens) have a series of batteries installed at their local council offices/depot for all its town people to get their power from...of course it would need the support of all that town's ratepayers....that would stuff up the greedy energy companies.
great!
Hundreds of new batt technologies out there all the time, most won't reach market but it only takes one to change everything. 25:00 he didn't mention power density let alone price.
Hi, i have question - i have hybrid solar wind system. 300w solar and
400w wind. I just notice that my monitoring system (live) showing
incredibly down production when wind turbine is spinning. When sun
shining but turbine does not turn, i get around 200-280w production, but
soon wind turbine starts spinning, - the production drops - i get
around 120 - 170w the faste turbine spinning the bigger amount of w is
drops. Its looks like wind turbine does not produce any electricity,
instead when its turning looks like its pulls energy back to it self? or
what is happening? Any advice, please?
could be wired up wrong. 3 phase turbine generator? call an electrician
Given how old this question is, I hope you have resolved this by now.However, for the sake of others who are interested, it's more than likely that you're only monitoring the output of your solar array. When the wind blows, your turbine starts generating which will lower the draw from the solar array as the turbine takes over production of power. If this is the case, you need a better charge controller to maintain the most efficient use of the power you're generating.
Lithium cobalt is NOT the latest battery standard , LiFePO4 is.
Good report on solar energy.... I'm torn between solar and hydrogen energy, the cleanest of all renewable/green energy.
Do not be torn about hydrogen vs solar use them together combined hydrogen works well with solar to generate electricity when you don't have Sun plus adding lithium ion batteries can let you optimize that energy you produce and adding if you live close to the ocean you can use tidal wave energy what has a lot of potential to give you the energy you need and not pay a utility company and have the utility company pay you for that energy also if you do not live close to the ocean or sure you can add windmills when it is you to your solar projection and hydrogen to increase your energy output
What is the latest information about this?
Will anyone have any idea for how long the system last, and how often, how much cost for maintenance.
Australia has a shortage of water, if every house had a water tank to catch rain water it would reduce the water shortage.
now 2020 wat is the status..any update?
The question is what will be the impact and changes this will bring to our homes, lives and in our environment?
Wait, what is the cost now, and did it cost this person more or less and what was the payback period?? What is the life expectancy of these batteries. What is the environmental impact of the battery and the end of life of the battery? What is the estimate of the life cycle of these batteries and replacement cost?
05:02 look at that stach!!!
watching this in 2020.. not really much has changed. since oil prices plummeted.. electricity tariff shud be going down.. so.. battery importance maybe need to wait a little more
interesting show.
I think we can eventually get to the point where neuclear plants, and hydro and wind turbines can generate what is needed other than the solar at ppls homes, if most ppl can have double the required solar panels , exporting the power not used to the grid, making up for the coal and gas power plants, and use battery backup to buffer the nuk plants, allowing time to adjust to demand! Or possibly a battery ultra capacitor hybrid, to supply power for the 10-30 minutes needed to compensate, and possibly using pumped storage for longer demands! The grid total us very complex, it needs to be broken down in more manageable parcels, while still being a connected grid, where the parts of the grid can help eachother, we will figure it out, the goal is to stop the carbon, we must keep that in mind over profiting,
Where or what happens to spent batteries, do they go put in the fossil fuel or metal mines
These materials are valuable so will be recycled into new batteries.
Hey Josh, how much did the entire rig cost you? Cheers!
The cost varies, depending on the capacity of the system. If you wanted to power your entire home 24hours a day, then a ballpark figure would be somewhere between $20K to $50K for a typical 3-bedroom house.
Hey the Tesla power wall is 15kwh and that can power your home for about 8 hours.. but you will need to review some of the devices you utilise at night
Like to see some more
Replace the old roof with solar panels. Doors and windows as well.
Is Australia use Electric Vehicles and have Quick EV CHARGING stations throughout your country? It's March 20, 2020. Have you made it happen yet?