Melee's Biggest Mandela Effect

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  • Опубліковано 30 сер 2022
  • LAST TIME, we took a look at some priceless sets from the Big House 4 in a bit of a Melee history lesson. This time, I watched another earth-shattering tournament set from the same tournament... But this set, it involved me, and one of the most notorious players of all time, BORP.
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  • @sdw-hv5ko
    @sdw-hv5ko Рік тому +440

    Can confirm that my friend who got me into Melee and introduced me to Borp said "he took a set off Toph!" Then later amended it to "he took a game." Finally I watched the set and saw that neither were true. It's funny how being taken to last stock in one game was just slowly morphed into losing the set in the memory of a bunch of Melee fans

  • @TheAquaSolution
    @TheAquaSolution Рік тому +208

    DaJuan Energy McDaniel shouting I'm Not Yelling and then having it become a dope tournament will always be hilarious to me. Iconic

    • @Radarssbm
      @Radarssbm Рік тому +5

      It really was so damn great LOL

    • @DareToShine
      @DareToShine Рік тому +1

      Been so long since ive seen that clip. Legendary honestly

  • @PurpSSB
    @PurpSSB Рік тому +473

    He doesnt wavedash? He only edgeguards from the stage? Borp was just an ultimate player born in the wrong generation

    • @kestrel7493
      @kestrel7493 Рік тому +38

      Ultimate players do wavedash, it just doesn't do much if anything. They want to but the game doesn't let them.
      The amount of times I see people waveland on a platform just for the sake of it is crazy
      Edit: wanted to share the use cases it does have though, but they're super situational
      Proto used it at summit as a situational bait "I'm running and can't dash back, that means I'm committing. WRONG, have A wavedash back forward tilt for trying to punish me"
      Sometimes it can be used to cancel initial dash and stay grounded, similar to the previous example since dashing is an actually commitment in ult.
      Its usually a little faster to land on a platform with it.
      Some charactera do just have bad ones though where even these don't apply.
      Keep in mind most of this is from 1 player at a few tournaments. Very limited

    • @kevinfetters7040
      @kevinfetters7040 Рік тому +14

      @@kestrel7493 I absolutely love wave landing in Ult, it gets me killed sometimes but it's so fun to do lmao.

    • @SufferDYT
      @SufferDYT Рік тому +6

      @@kevinfetters7040 pssst.. play melee

    • @kevinfetters7040
      @kevinfetters7040 Рік тому +3

      @@SufferDYT I do

    • @dandanjambon
      @dandanjambon Рік тому +19

      @@kestrel7493 I used to be an ultimate player and I did that shit all the time, and the people I was playing were like "Oh what's this tech you're doing with the platforms? Oh that's really cool seems pretty good" Thankfully I have realized this was trash and also switched to melee

  • @jocyanide
    @jocyanide Рік тому +411

    It's still crazy to me that Borp was able to beat a fantastic player such as yourself without any tech. Just goes to show how next level he was at the time.

    • @vorporal8764
      @vorporal8764 Рік тому +25

      That first Borp game win vs him was insane 🔥

    • @LordOxMoose
      @LordOxMoose Рік тому +139

      Especially when he won the set and hit Toph with his classic line “It’s Borpin’ time!”
      Truly one of the melee players ever

    • @Tophbbq
      @Tophbbq  Рік тому +82

      LMAO NOOOO

    • @pIayingwithmahwii
      @pIayingwithmahwii Рік тому +16

      @@LordOxMoose and then he tipped his hat and rode hbox out of the venue. incredible

    • @peachdaisy3478
      @peachdaisy3478 Рік тому +1

      Toph is easy money. What are you tslking about....

  • @Charms256
    @Charms256 Рік тому +63

    Toph opening the gates for every random person to walk up and say he lost to borp

  • @dr_ill
    @dr_ill Рік тому +88

    One of my favorite melee clips is the handwarmer of the grand finals at MOAL 37 between PGH Carroll and Borp, where Borp wavedashes a couple of times during the handwarmer and PGH Carroll looks over at him like WTF and the commentators freak out.
    Also, one of my favorite melee player facts is that Borp is the brother of Pannenkoek (of the Super Mario 64 A Button Challenge fame).

    • @Claudia-km9lo
      @Claudia-km9lo Рік тому +5

      WAIT, HE'S PANEN'S BROTHER?

    • @dr_ill
      @dr_ill Рік тому +21

      @@Claudia-km9lo Yep! I saw someone make a joke about something like "I guess pressing as few buttons as possible runs in the family"

    • @Parkourr_
      @Parkourr_ Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/hxl6F7vXC6o/v-deo.html this will never not be funny

    • @matty3501
      @matty3501 Рік тому +7

      @@dr_ill True, but also they couldn't be any less alike insofar as one of them uses the simplest possible videogame strategy whereas the other's videogame strats are so needlessly complex that you have to begin to question his sanity

    • @dr_ill
      @dr_ill Рік тому +1

      @@matty3501 You're right, Borp's strats ARE so complex that it makes me question his sanity! :)

  • @WillyMacShow
    @WillyMacShow Рік тому +50

    kinda crazy how good borp is. he beat toph who was a fox that was kind of ahead of his time

  • @jaybee3960
    @jaybee3960 Рік тому +91

    Damn Toph's a legend, he managed to beat Borp that one time

    • @BHox01
      @BHox01 Рік тому +4

      One of the craziest upsets of all time tbh, shame it's so unknown

    • @jacobbatchelor7877
      @jacobbatchelor7877 Рік тому

      @@BHox01 Take your meds, schizos. Everyone knows Borp won that set.

  • @darienmoncree3980
    @darienmoncree3980 Рік тому +44

    Genuinely thought Borp won this set even though I watched it live
    should be replayed imo

  • @kennythekid130
    @kennythekid130 Рік тому +66

    It's ok Toph we still think you are amazing even though you lost to Borp 2-0

  • @mcquizzer106
    @mcquizzer106 Рік тому +183

    damn borp's sick. didn't he beat you that one time?

  • @lanaalways
    @lanaalways Рік тому +29

    NMW vs HMW what a beautiful matchup

  • @JonnyGamble
    @JonnyGamble Рік тому +4

    We need a Toph/Green Ranger video
    “HOW DO YOU NOT TECH THAT IT’S GOT A MILLION VIEWS”

  • @TheSleepKing
    @TheSleepKing Рік тому +14

    Bro. WTF. I remember watching this set in 2017 when I started watching Melee. I legit thought Borp beat you, even til today. That's a crazy Mandela Effect.

  • @oceanwaves83
    @oceanwaves83 Рік тому +13

    Toph's new nickname is officially "lost to Borp"

  • @wusstunes
    @wusstunes Рік тому +29

    I imagine the "no techskill God" borp highlight video probably helped cause a lot of the misconceptions with borp by only showing him at his best.

    • @esthersmith3056
      @esthersmith3056 Рік тому +12

      and like. fr borp is sick. he's just. not as good as people kinda want him to be, "no techskill" is just such a cool and goofy underdog story, and we sorta forged a mythology around that.

    • @pIayingwithmahwii
      @pIayingwithmahwii Рік тому +1

      I think some of the confusion also comes cause of that toph vs m2k Roy set a while ago, somehow

  • @achumumu3487
    @achumumu3487 Рік тому +26

    I just love how Toph keeps being impressed by himself. I play a low-tech Sheik so I also love borp.

    • @averagejoessb3110
      @averagejoessb3110 Рік тому +1

      Learn how to do tech skill. Trust me it'll make improving so much easier, and you'll hit a wall pretty quickly without it. Especially in this day and age just watching the borp set like virtually none of the stuff he was doing would work today imo, unless your only goal in the game is to be the best in your friend group or maybe take a game off of 0-2 scrubs.

  • @paperking64
    @paperking64 Рік тому +11

    Man hearing all these old players and tournament names makes me nostalgic, thanks for sticking around the community toph you're a legend

  • @kumpy
    @kumpy Рік тому +17

    I am LOVING these vids (and also miss the foundry)

  • @fajam00m00
    @fajam00m00 Рік тому +5

    That was sick when Borp beat him.

  • @proteanalias
    @proteanalias Рік тому +5

    I lived outside of pit for like 11 months so I went to a couple of the pgh weeklies. The first one I went to I played my first game against borp and was told "Really the only thing I can say about Borp is he is going to destroy you and you aren't going to know what happened." He was right. Mans was the captain of the chess club or something like that and he definitely played like it.

    • @pIayingwithmahwii
      @pIayingwithmahwii Рік тому

      LOL it looks so frustrating to play against. You’re trying to play and somehow none of your normal stuff even hits him lol

  • @EDEdDNEdDYFaN
    @EDEdDNEdDYFaN Рік тому +3

    people are probably mixing up the green ranger set where you got battlefielded at the end with borp lol

  • @tiaraguy7705
    @tiaraguy7705 Рік тому +16

    Toph hasn't aged a day

  • @elegy8187
    @elegy8187 Рік тому +1

    Fun fact: Borp’s brother is the super Mario 64 player Pannenkoek2012, aka the 0.5 A presses guy. I guess playing video games in unique ways runs in the family.

  • @vantacreations
    @vantacreations Рік тому +12

    i learned that ctrl w closes a tab from this vid, thanks toph

  • @FoliumSakura
    @FoliumSakura Рік тому +1

    referring to that legendary marth set at the end, i always have to go back and watch it like every couple of months. It's so goooood

  • @moon-doggiegaming7302
    @moon-doggiegaming7302 Рік тому +2

    You may have won the set but Borp won our hearts. and THAT is the victory everyone keeps talking about.

  • @HUMAN234789561290
    @HUMAN234789561290 Рік тому +2

    BLESSED to have daily tophtent hitting my inbox rn, absolute juggernaut of the melee community

  • @how-d
    @how-d Рік тому

    That body pillow on his shelf gave me a good chuckle

  • @plushcryptid
    @plushcryptid Рік тому +21

    my takeaway from this video is that borp beat toph

  • @TheKamiSama0
    @TheKamiSama0 Рік тому +3

    Wait this is actually crazy. I do kinda remember this set as a borp win holy moly

  • @xZigeRx
    @xZigeRx Рік тому +3

    Cant believe Toph lost to Borp, would like to see him go over the set maybe one day, he got that crazy up-smash on Toph right away, Borp's nuts

  • @ClwkInstnct
    @ClwkInstnct Рік тому +3

    New title: Was I goated with the fox movement!?

  • @UIM_Loki
    @UIM_Loki Рік тому +2

    toph been watching you commentate melee for years, we actually met at the foundry once in 2017, first video that i've ever been recommended from you, insta subscribe, keep on keeping on my man, much love

  • @m2dauffin2
    @m2dauffin2 Рік тому +1

    I’m from Indiana and I remember borp and the lake beat most of our good players right in a row except rik if anyone knows who rik is they both still gave him a run for his money, this was at big house 4

  • @user-qc1ff3st7r
    @user-qc1ff3st7r Рік тому +2

    I'm a massive Toph fan after you started streaming/posting youtube vids (I miss the TOPH and Scar show) and I definitely got Mandela'd despite watching this set and most of BH4 LIVE. I'm so sorry Toph, you deserve better.
    PS yes your movement was clean af and idk why people always clowned on you with no backing

  • @bladesqueen5201
    @bladesqueen5201 Рік тому +3

    didnt watch the video but this reminds me of when Borp beat Toph! It's so cool to see toph posted about it despite it being a sore spot in his career.

  • @fxlkpunkrapper
    @fxlkpunkrapper Рік тому

    even from across the sea, hopping into the foundry stream was always such a fun community experience

  • @xenocide1307
    @xenocide1307 Рік тому +1

    Up-smash at low-mid percents is my favorite anti air, I used to be pretty solid at utilizing the invincible torso to space around moves. If it trades you can get some crazy follow-ups.

  • @dk8101
    @dk8101 Рік тому +1

    Bro really made a whole video to take borp down again; remind everyone that he beat borp clean. That's crazy. Keep it goin Toph genuinely love your commentary G

  • @germancastano2241
    @germancastano2241 Рік тому +1

    That is impressive. Borp beat Toph and Toph still is not aware of that.
    I never going to forget it.

  • @cameronn2572
    @cameronn2572 15 днів тому

    This is like Street Fighter players quoting Daigo as beating JWong for EVO Moment 37, even though JWong still took the set in that tournament

  • @toyar567
    @toyar567 Рік тому +5

    You should do a vid on you vs green ranger at bh3. Reverse mandella effect, I thought u won that set but that has to be the saddest toph I've ever seen. 😢

    • @millerwrightt
      @millerwrightt Рік тому +4

      Then he can do a vid on the time Borp beat green ranger and complete the cycle

  • @MA-ym8pl
    @MA-ym8pl 9 місяців тому

    so happy to hear dajuans “IM NOT YELLING”
    miss that guy and idek him man

  • @paxcaster
    @paxcaster Рік тому

    it's insanely true. I tried to remember how this sent went before finishing the video and all I remembered was the moment where you gave him credit for the upsmash, and that just creates this air that borp won the set. makes me wonder aboure more Mandela effects in melee 🤔

  • @mire_cs
    @mire_cs Рік тому

    loving these uploads toph

  • @IceBrys
    @IceBrys Рік тому

    New bucket list item: Ask toph about the time borp beat him

  • @Aoi_Tori_
    @Aoi_Tori_ Рік тому +1

    I miss The Foundry streams! It was always so sick seeing people visit during majors.

  • @ssbmwaddles
    @ssbmwaddles Рік тому

    I have “no I didn’t” running thru my head now god nick’s so fucking funny

  • @john34557
    @john34557 Рік тому +1

    Keep up the content Toph!

  • @redye5858
    @redye5858 Рік тому +4

    All these little stories are very interesting

    • @yourdagan
      @yourdagan Рік тому +1

      One of the best parts of Toph/Scar commentary.

  • @dorohime7001
    @dorohime7001 Рік тому +4

    I love this set wtf
    When are you gonna review Tafo vs Tian?
    Did you already do that on this channel?

    • @kuni2330
      @kuni2330 Рік тому +2

      "I wanna give you some advice... QUIT BRO QUIT!"

  • @mini8964
    @mini8964 Рік тому

    Borp is actually from the distant future, he was sucked back in time in a space voyage gone wrong. He loved competitive melee, but he felt it unfair that his futuristic understanding of the game gave him an advantage, so he voluntarily handicaps himself to maintain the state of the game.

  • @legendarygreat1064
    @legendarygreat1064 Рік тому

    yo is the foundry still hosting events and stuff? i haven’t been there since my crew battle for Smash 4 yearssssss ago

  • @wooplaw1080
    @wooplaw1080 Рік тому +3

    Amazing match, borp once again 2/0’s a top player. Fantastic!

  • @hviny1605
    @hviny1605 Рік тому

    "borp beat toph and chillin beat leffen" - straaak from chat

  • @jsweeney7359
    @jsweeney7359 Рік тому +1

    I'm loving the daily content

  • @Escobamos
    @Escobamos Рік тому +2

    Toph makes great content geez, imagine watching a tier list over this shit

  • @marcorodriguez8792
    @marcorodriguez8792 Рік тому

    Borp is such a fun name to say or yell

  • @jejetube7667
    @jejetube7667 Рік тому

    Man, I wish you've make this video in the first half of 2019 so I could've asked you jokingly "hey didn't Borp beat you?" when I met you and asked for a picture lmao

  • @brianneice463
    @brianneice463 Рік тому

    What if you rewatched the set just to see you actually did lose. The ultimate Mandela effect

  • @orlandorodriguez8270
    @orlandorodriguez8270 Рік тому

    Since Alex19s name is at the bottom does anyone know what happened to him? Did he get cancelled?

  • @Nako3
    @Nako3 Рік тому

    I dont know how you edited the video to make it look like you won but thats some real high quality edit!

  • @hatenaw
    @hatenaw Рік тому

    Top players like Toph are amazing, using these obsolete tech skill techniques to beat gods like Borp

  • @brettpach
    @brettpach Рік тому

    I think the number 1 way to get people to ask you if borp beat you is to make a video specifically asking people not to ask it.

  • @LuSiDious
    @LuSiDious Рік тому +2

    BORP! the actual GOAT! if he ever got serious and used tech, he could just reverse his tag, then he'd be a prob

  • @LLotad
    @LLotad Рік тому

    I cant find any confirmation but toph do you know if borp has tried smash 4 or ultimate?

  • @samcecil2928
    @samcecil2928 11 місяців тому

    I got mandela effected, I knew you won but I thought it went last game for sure.

  • @zenyythultimate
    @zenyythultimate Рік тому

    doesn’t matter what it looks like, good melee is good melee

  • @keatsta2928
    @keatsta2928 Рік тому

    fun fact: borp's brother is pannenkoek, of mario 64 a button challenge fame!

  • @isambo400
    @isambo400 Рік тому

    Wow, great showing by Borp to beat Tafo like that

  • @SkeletonSSBM
    @SkeletonSSBM Рік тому

    Borp is a legend. He's proof that not everyone is a sweaty button masher.
    (I don't think people are sweaty button mashers, I'm more talking about ultimate players that think that)

  • @CabbageCookies13
    @CabbageCookies13 Рік тому

    How have you not seen the video, it has like a millions views...

  • @unzo7368
    @unzo7368 Рік тому

    I started out playing with in 2016 and the room mate who got me into it told me I look like I played like borp because sheik was my first character and I knew nothing about melee tech. I said who is that and he said a sheik player who took a set off toph . I then said who is that

  • @Sushigh0st
    @Sushigh0st Рік тому

    It was definitely the mr. pickle borp highlight video with 650k views that caused this

  • @karasu_combos
    @karasu_combos Рік тому +1

    Wait Borp didn't beat you at the TBH4? I could've sworn he did

  • @hossdelgato6098
    @hossdelgato6098 Рік тому +1

    Respect to Borp

  • @NonRandomUser
    @NonRandomUser Рік тому +2

    smh can't believe Toph would try to gaslight us like this and rewrite Smash history.

  • @Spunney
    @Spunney Рік тому

    You studies for Borp...? Yeah, he still definitely won in my book XD

  • @SY2i
    @SY2i Рік тому

    Fun fact: Pannenkoek2012, the SM64 parallel universes guy, is Borp's brother

  • @yuurapik
    @yuurapik Рік тому

    it was really close tho, you are trully overpowering him just on tech.

  • @AwesomeCoates
    @AwesomeCoates Рік тому

    In reference to he's like a glitchless speedrunner comment around 12 minutes, he's actually the brother of the guy who made the half a press watch for rolling rocks video, so a lot more accurate of a statement than you may think lol
    edit: check out borp's last yt video, he has a link to his philosophy "book" in the comments, it's super solid

  • @Charms256
    @Charms256 Рік тому +1

    Algo bump

  • @Kenjuu
    @Kenjuu Рік тому

    Go in Toph's twitch right now and ask him, "Didn't Borp beat you that one time?"

  • @Monkchelle_Kongbama
    @Monkchelle_Kongbama Рік тому

    ctrl w....learned something new

  • @Jakerunio
    @Jakerunio Рік тому

    Can I come up to you and be like “yo didn’t you beat Borp that one time?”

  • @dnnisrdz956
    @dnnisrdz956 Рік тому +1

    Don’t gaslight me into thinking you beat blorp

  • @BenThompsonJazzStudiesProgram

    @youtube comments: it is now our duty to go to majors and ask if Toph lost to Rishi's DK

  • @crusaddy982
    @crusaddy982 Рік тому

    now people are going to say you lost as a joke

  • @giligan1004
    @giligan1004 Рік тому +2

    What's up Toph!?

  • @silashicks9736
    @silashicks9736 Рік тому

    Wait I didn’t realize that borp didn’t even L-cancel wtf

  • @MizukiTHPS
    @MizukiTHPS Рік тому +1

    Hey, didn't borp beat you that one time though?

  • @brianrainosek1178
    @brianrainosek1178 Рік тому

    Yoooo borp would crush anybody in today's meta

  • @Xalashaska
    @Xalashaska Рік тому

    lol i hope every tournament from now on an assortment of people ask you do Borp beat you

  • @rubberglovesandwich9889
    @rubberglovesandwich9889 Рік тому

    Man its crazy how we just watched Borp 5-0 you. I'm glad it doesn't bother you anymore.

  • @Neva9999
    @Neva9999 10 місяців тому

    What if borp was a nintendo industry plant

  • @vincentaguirre1691
    @vincentaguirre1691 Рік тому

    i didnt know that Toph did that much coke.

  • @nobodysbusinezz
    @nobodysbusinezz Рік тому

    Bro I want to know what happens next bro

  • @momo_11o9
    @momo_11o9 Рік тому +1

    borp is sick

  • @adwardosa5575
    @adwardosa5575 Рік тому

    I'll be honest, I remember borp beating you.