Ag pilots do it all day long safely,that guy unfortunately needed more training,he needed to have been put under pressure by an instructor to see how he reacted.
Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings; Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth of sun-split clouds,-and done a hundred things You have not dreamed of-wheeled and soared and swung High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there, I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung My eager craft through footless halls of air .... Up, up the long, delirious, burning blue I've topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace Where never lark, or even eagle flew- And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod The high untrespassed sanctity of space, Put out my hand, and touched the face of God. - BY JOHN GILLESPIE MAGEE JR.
I’m a firm believer in flying model airplanes. Many lessons can be learned from the hobby that can be used in full scale operations. When flying models you “always” walk away from your crashes. Not so in full scale!
Doesn't matter the size of the aircraft, seen a video on UA-cam of a B-52 that went down the same path of no return, critical bank angle = loss of lift, sad and tragic to see it in motion.
That was up here at Fairchild Air Force Base in Spokane, Washington. I was working the flight line that day when it went down. The pilot was a stubborn old timer, trying to prove that he could push it past its limits. It went down and exploded into a huge ball of fire killing the entire crew. I’ll never forget that day or the time before it when a KC-135 air refueling tanker went down on base. Sadly, same ending.
@@TroyCarroll509 It wasn't just that he was a stubborn old timer, but that the brass had repetitively used him to impress delegations. They contributed greatly and allowed the entire thing to happen.
@@whatilearnttoday5295 Yep. 20 years, pretty much all my contempt was aimed at the pilot. After learning more and reading the interview and background tabs of the AIB report, over time I've given him more of a break and actually have more contempt for the commanders that openly encouraged this behavior. Somebody with stars was clearly looking after him.
imho, because altitude IS the 'high'.... trained, pilots purposefully sacrifice that precious commodity to achieve a turn with bank angle. Pilots who are not trained, or just using poor judgement choose to not sacrifice anything to pay the piper. ...until the piper collects what is due. every last bit of due respect to them both though. RIP. just a high cost for such mistakes.
@@tungstenkid2271 Also drug-addled and flying at night. So irresponsible, especially with a passenger, but the lawsuits will take everything his widow had no doubt.
@@Skank_and_Gutterboy Yeah any kid on a home computer flight sim knows how to fly better than most of the crash pilots i've seen on youtube..:) Maybe pilots briefly forget they're not driving a car, and forget to keep a very close watch on their airspeed.
Flying is not really a risk if the pilot is proficient and the aircraft is operating properly. I’d much rather fly everywhere than drive here in California. 👍
@@garygolfer3243 I understand, but when one considers what he was flying. I would rather be inside of an aircraft. That's cool though.. And, he went out doing the one thing he loved doing most in life... riding on top of a sewing machine with wings. Off into the sunset or into the ground. It doesn't matter... he was doing what he loved, and I think that's fantastic.
@@NalaRichenbach Oh, I thought you were saying he was taking an unnecessary risk, when it was actually a huge pilot error if no mechanical issue is found. I love flying, but hang gliding is my favorite, I don’t like the “sewing machine” in my ear. 🤣👍
No rudder makes it impossible to pull out of the soft stall created by the steep turn. Adding corrective wing inputs just made the stall worse at the end.
Accelerated stall, classic mistake by fixed-wing pilots in a base-to-final turns. The stall speed increases rapidly at high bank angles and high wing loading.
I am sure you can not take passengers unless you have a real pilots license. In that case he should have known better, "A noncertificated pilot's loss of control" there's the hint, guess he was flying illegally as part 103 😞
Never reduce power in a turn with a high AOA. Airspeed indicator could have saved this person's life. Is it hard to feel imminent stall with hang-glider-style wings? Cuz in small recips with hershey bar wings you can feel it and recognize it without use of the ASI.
Obvious within seconds to realise what happened here. Sad, Sad indeed! It's a shame his body was full of Delta-9 THC. Even when I was learning to fly in the 1980's, I never partook if I flying withing 96 hrs of a given time. Luckly, not long after that I quit completely, Thank the Lord above. I loved flying too much to risk losing my privilege. We did stupid stuff when we were young and thought we were invincible.
I would never fly in one of these stupid things, there is no protection at all, at least in a C152 or C172 you have a firewall and the whole engine to absorb any impact. The first thing that is going to come into contact if you crash in these things, is YOU....at 40 - 50mph? Good luck with that
That turned into an unrecoverable spiral dive in just a couple seconds. Recovery is easy and quick, but the pilot needs to be aware of what’s happening. Recovery consists of an aggressive pull of the bar to neutral, and recover from the dive. I use an incipient spiral dive to lose a lot of altitude quickly, but these poor souls didn’t stand a chance.
@@erickborling1302 What people do in a panic is they push the bar they see the ground rushing up which causes the wing angle to increase further causing it to tighten the spiral.
As a fixed wing pilot, I don't know much about those ultralights but man, I guess you have to turn those things in a pretty shallow manner or you'll lose it. Rest easy.
@@ligmasack9038 Utter rubbish, you really don't understand how weight shift microlights work do you? Pulling the `bar in to his gut' would be full nose down in a weight shift, unlikely to tighten any turn I think. Please don't comment on things you obviously know nothing about, stop the misinformation.
nah, they're trying to sue the municipal airport because the airport shouldn't have allowed the pilot to take off in an ultralight with a passenger. so much for personal accountability...
Gravity wins AGAIN! How needless and tragic! Prayers to the family and those who had to witness this completely avoidable accident! Get some proper training if you're going to fly ANYTHING! These entry level flying machines can kill you just as quick as the big ones! 🙏🙏
Never ever get on anything you can't survive the fall from that flies unless there is a currently licensed fully trained pilot. Who isn't stoned. Ultralites do not require a PPL.
At 3:52 we clearly see something call Nose catch and saw Nose catch Bolt out of place,, I fly gliders my self and I had saw 90' steep turns left and right with no issues ,, thing about Aviation is that it doesn't give second chances
Took that turn way too sharp and slow, don't think it's legal to be flying over homes either, very low altitude. Too many negative factors to have a good outcome for sure. That was a bad day for sure. RIP. They slammed hard into the ground..damn.
Fighter pilot style approach without fighter airplane thrust, fighter pilot training. I see this frequently as a private pilot, others doing these steep bank angle turns to final at low approach altitudes. I’ll always shake me head and wonder what they are thinking. As for myself, I keep the bank angles tame and airspeed plentiful for a wide margin of safety.
Never use Nylock nuts on anything critical they are garbage. I use them on a fence or gate sometimes I would not even use them on a vehicle. If you look at auto manufactures they never use them on anything. They use flange bolts or nuts that are self locking.
@@_AndromedaGalaxy_ What do you have? I built a turbo mustang about 13 years ago does 9.20's. Currently working on a 67 C10 with a 500" BBC. I wanted to build something 100% NA no electronics this is more of a show car I will get the cage certified for 8 seconds.
Appears to be poor recovery technique, perhaps inexperienced pilot who didn't know proper weight shift wing-high attitude recovery. A vigorous 'high hand to hip' control move could have saved these two and all the heartache of their loved ones. Very tragic and sad results. Condolences to the family.
Great comment - with better training hopefully he could have either recovered from this situation or known enough to avoid it completely. Every flying machine has its limitations, and not knowing them can be fatal.
The "pilot" probably had no training at all in how to fly that monstrosity, assembled it improperly, AND had drugs in his system at the time of the crash. He probably never read the limitations of his "aircraft," either. We can hear that there was nothing wrong with the engine, and even if it did quit, a competent pilot could deadstick it in to land safely.
@@ericlozen9631 Bob Hoover has always been reckless and isn't any more special that anyone else. He's just been lucky is all. He should not be considered as any kind of hero. He's just another bold reckless idiot. Seen many just like him, a couple survived. Survival bias doesn't mean he's special.
No steep banks at low altitude in any aircraft is probably the best advice
It sure is! Private pilot training is also a good minimum knowledge base for rec. pilots.
I looked like he pitched up hard before the turn, I don't understand why a person would do that.
Aviation 101. Lift vs. gravity is explained by MMA. It’s sad this pilot didn’t understand the principle. 😔
# 1 cause of pilot error crashes is turning flight close to the ground.
Ag pilots do it all day long safely,that guy unfortunately needed more training,he needed to have been put under pressure by an instructor to see how he reacted.
"Off into the sunset they fly."
Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
of sun-split clouds,-and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of-wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there,
I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air ....
Up, up the long, delirious, burning blue
I've topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace
Where never lark, or even eagle flew-
And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.
- BY JOHN GILLESPIE MAGEE JR.
@@gwiyomikim5988 "High Flight"
@@JAMessinaJr - 👍🏼
She's just enjoying the sunset, I feel bad that she witnessed that.
Literally going towards the light
The medical report in the docket indicates the pilot was high at the time of the crash, and also was taking a psychoactive drug for depression.
I’m a firm believer in flying model airplanes. Many lessons can be learned from the hobby that can be used in full scale operations. When flying models you “always” walk away from your crashes. Not so in full scale!
Cannot fathom how horrific that was for them trying to comprehend what they just saw
An accelerated stall. Flying 101. This is why you need to be certificated and proficient in the vehicle you're flying.
They used to give these away on Price Is Right. Not sure if any were won but it seemed odd that they toughted it as an anyone can fly it thing.
How tragic, and sadly, how avoidable.
100% Agree...
Doesn't matter the size of the aircraft, seen a video on UA-cam of a B-52 that went down the same path of no return, critical bank angle = loss of lift, sad and tragic to see it in motion.
That was up here at Fairchild Air Force Base in Spokane, Washington. I was working the flight line that day when it went down. The pilot was a stubborn old timer, trying to prove that he could push it past its limits. It went down and exploded into a huge ball of fire killing the entire crew. I’ll never forget that day or the time before it when a KC-135 air refueling tanker went down on base. Sadly, same ending.
@@TroyCarroll509 It wasn't just that he was a stubborn old timer, but that the brass had repetitively used him to impress delegations. They contributed greatly and allowed the entire thing to happen.
@@whatilearnttoday5295
Yep. 20 years, pretty much all my contempt was aimed at the pilot. After learning more and reading the interview and background tabs of the AIB report, over time I've given him more of a break and actually have more contempt for the commanders that openly encouraged this behavior. Somebody with stars was clearly looking after him.
Saddened to see the loss. Hope the family can find some peace someday.
I don’t know why these guys insist on banking so steeply without lowering the nose. It’s a mystery…
imho, because altitude IS the 'high'.... trained, pilots purposefully sacrifice that precious commodity to achieve a turn with bank angle. Pilots who are not trained, or just using poor judgement choose to not sacrifice anything to pay the piper. ...until the piper collects what is due. every last bit of due respect to them both though. RIP. just a high cost for such mistakes.
Showing off to friends and neighbours.
Not only that, he pitched up hard just before going into the turn. I don't understand him doing that.
@@tungstenkid2271 Also drug-addled and flying at night. So irresponsible, especially with a passenger, but the lawsuits will take everything his widow had no doubt.
@@Skank_and_Gutterboy Yeah any kid on a home computer flight sim knows how to fly better than most of the crash pilots i've seen on youtube..:)
Maybe pilots briefly forget they're not driving a car, and forget to keep a very close watch on their airspeed.
I'm amazed at the risk people take with their lives.
Flying is not really a risk if the pilot is proficient and the aircraft is operating properly. I’d much rather fly everywhere than drive here in California. 👍
@@garygolfer3243 I understand, but when one considers what he was flying. I would rather be inside of an aircraft. That's cool though.. And, he went out doing the one thing he loved doing most in life... riding on top of a sewing machine with wings. Off into the sunset or into the ground. It doesn't matter... he was doing what he loved, and I think that's fantastic.
@@NalaRichenbach Oh, I thought you were saying he was taking an unnecessary risk, when it was actually a huge pilot error if no mechanical issue is found. I love flying, but hang gliding is my favorite, I don’t like the “sewing machine” in my ear. 🤣👍
The laws of physics. Undefeated
Gravity. Undefeated
That was a big thud.
No rudder makes it impossible to pull out of the soft stall created by the steep turn. Adding corrective wing inputs just made the stall worse at the end.
She was going to be an actress, and I was going to learn to fly- and see she’s acting happy ……..And I’m flying so high…………..when I’m stoned..
I want to see the full video and audio
Another Darwin Award.
Insert Best Gore style comment.
Accelerated stall, classic mistake by fixed-wing pilots in a base-to-final turns. The stall speed increases rapidly at high bank angles and high wing loading.
I am sure you can not take passengers unless you have a real pilots license. In that case he should have known better, "A noncertificated pilot's loss of control" there's the hint, guess he was flying illegally as part 103 😞
Sport Pilot Ticket allows 1 passenger.
@@scotabot7826ATP and an A380 allows hundreds of passengers. Also not relevant.
@@scotabot7826 If he was uncertificated, doesn't that mean he was NOT a sport pilot?
Looks like the classic wing stall that bites many pilots.
Wings need lift in order to function properly.
Looks like a stall.
Basic aerodynamics...critical angle of attack...relative wind..any attitude or airspeed.
Never reduce power in a turn with a high AOA. Airspeed indicator could have saved this person's life. Is it hard to feel imminent stall with hang-glider-style wings? Cuz in small recips with hershey bar wings you can feel it and recognize it without use of the ASI.
Obvious within seconds to realise what happened here. Sad, Sad indeed! It's a shame his body was full of Delta-9 THC. Even when I was learning to fly in the 1980's, I never partook if I flying withing 96 hrs of a given time. Luckly, not long after that I quit completely, Thank the Lord above. I loved flying too much to risk losing my privilege. We did stupid stuff when we were young and thought we were invincible.
Why why why, quit videoing in portrait!!!!!
I’m sure they’ll take time out of their grief to apologise to you personally.
I know, right!?
@@robin_holden Well at least now YOU know how NoT to film airplanes with your phone.
It's because they're tik tokers or instagrammers
Showing off for the camera girl, rip guy.
I would never fly in one of these stupid things, there is no protection at all, at least in a C152 or C172 you have a firewall and the whole engine to absorb any impact. The first thing that is going to come into contact if you crash in these things, is YOU....at 40 - 50mph? Good luck with that
Why do normies always move the camera away at the moment of impact?
That turned into an unrecoverable spiral dive in just a couple seconds. Recovery is easy and quick, but the pilot needs to be aware of what’s happening. Recovery consists of an aggressive pull of the bar to neutral, and recover from the dive. I use an incipient spiral dive to lose a lot of altitude quickly, but these poor souls didn’t stand a chance.
Seems like the absence of an empennage with a rudder contributes to some limitations re: asymmetrical stall recovery.
@@erickborling1302 What people do in a panic is they push the bar they see the ground rushing up which causes the wing angle to increase further causing it to tighten the spiral.
@ Rogallo wings are remarkably stable, and recover well from stalls. They do have limitations, but are generally well behaved.
Very annoying to home owners when these things fly around the houses. 😡
You'll live
Poor baby
As a fixed wing pilot, I don't know much about those ultralights but man, I guess you have to turn those things in a pretty shallow manner or you'll lose it. Rest easy.
Dude was also pulling that Bar into his gut to try and tighten the turn; but you get somewhat steep Turns in Ultralights.
Good video from Larry Mednick on the spiral dive. ua-cam.com/video/vgRVpw7TvrY/v-deo.htmlsi=_ImXmrS2RtZDrCDw
@@ligmasack9038 Utter rubbish, you really don't understand how weight shift microlights work do you? Pulling the `bar in to his gut' would be full nose down in a weight shift, unlikely to tighten any turn I think. Please don't comment on things you obviously know nothing about, stop the misinformation.
“Non certified pilot” = Civil lawsuit against pilot’s estate.
Who's the plaintiff? Pilot's estate sues itself?
@@erickborling1302
There was a passenger. A person needs a Sport Pilot Certificate to fly a two seat ultra light but not a single seat ultra light.
@ passenger
nah, they're trying to sue the municipal airport because the airport shouldn't have allowed the pilot to take off in an ultralight with a passenger. so much for personal accountability...
@@OlSnuffy interesting - they do have a claim against the pilot, too, though as he was illegal to even have a passenger
Darwin alive and well in the Pacific Northwest!
I've lost count of the number of planes crashing in vids because they tried to turn at too slow a speed, stalling the inside wing.
Gravity wins AGAIN! How needless and tragic! Prayers to the family and those who had to witness this completely avoidable accident! Get some proper training if you're going to fly ANYTHING! These entry level flying machines can kill you just as quick as the big ones! 🙏🙏
The family of the deceased sued the local county , saying it is there fault supposedly :/
Their fault? How? Because the pilot was an idiot and shouldn't have been flying?
Source?
@@lindaschad9734 they are saying it is the airport they took off from , they should have stopped him taking a passenger.
@@popsfereal can't paste link , but doing a quick search on Google for "ultralight crash lawsuit albany" will bring up the many articles about it .
Splat 😢
Lady...you aren't kidding.😳🌞he saw you and wanted a second look...
Never ever get on anything you can't survive the fall from that flies unless there is a currently licensed fully trained pilot. Who isn't stoned. Ultralites do not require a PPL.
At 3:52 we clearly see something call Nose catch and saw Nose catch Bolt out of place,, I fly gliders my self and I had saw 90' steep turns left and right with no issues ,, thing about Aviation is that it doesn't give second chances
How awful… 😢
Took that turn way too sharp and slow, don't think it's legal to be flying over homes either, very low altitude. Too many negative factors to have a good outcome for sure. That was a bad day for sure. RIP. They slammed hard into the ground..damn.
Climbing while turning forces the craft into a stall scenario increasing the angle of attack.
Fighter pilot style approach without fighter airplane thrust, fighter pilot training. I see this frequently as a private pilot, others doing these steep bank angle turns to final at low approach altitudes. I’ll always shake me head and wonder what they are thinking. As for myself, I keep the bank angles tame and airspeed plentiful for a wide margin of safety.
Never use Nylock nuts on anything critical they are garbage. I use them on a fence or gate sometimes I would not even use them on a vehicle. If you look at auto manufactures they never use them on anything. They use flange bolts or nuts that are self locking.
oh crap, i guess i need to rebuild my drag car.
@@_AndromedaGalaxy_ What do you have? I built a turbo mustang about 13 years ago does 9.20's. Currently working on a 67 C10 with a 500" BBC. I wanted to build something 100% NA no electronics this is more of a show car I will get the cage certified for 8 seconds.
It looks like they got into an accelerated stall with the sharp bank and spun into the ground.
LMAOOOOOOOO WHAT A BUSTER
Prophetic!
You can stall at any speed but only one critical angle of attack.
Appears to be poor recovery technique, perhaps inexperienced pilot who didn't know proper weight shift wing-high attitude recovery. A vigorous 'high hand to hip' control move could have saved these two and all the heartache of their loved ones. Very tragic and sad results. Condolences to the family.
Great comment - with better training hopefully he could have either recovered from this situation or known enough to avoid it completely. Every flying machine has its limitations, and not knowing them can be fatal.
high AF when the cable broke, ban small planes
Shouldn't of turned
Play stupid games....
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The "pilot" probably had no training at all in how to fly that monstrosity, assembled it improperly, AND had drugs in his system at the time of the crash.
He probably never read the limitations of his "aircraft," either.
We can hear that there was nothing wrong with the engine, and even if it did quit, a competent pilot could deadstick it in to land safely.
"Probably?" That's a turd of a briefing, cap'n. Pilots don't talk that way about mishaps.
yikes
Vampire pilot.
Why no chutes? Surely the crew had time to eject.
Nowhere near enough altitude to get a chute open.
Stall
There are bold pilots and there are old pilots. But there are no bold old pilots
That's a new one.
@@kyqx Exactly what I was thinking.
There are rare exceptions though. Off the top of my head I can name two: Chuck Yeager and Bob Hoover.
@@ericlozen9631 Bob Hoover has always been reckless and isn't any more special that anyone else. He's just been lucky is all. He should not be considered as any kind of hero. He's just another bold reckless idiot.
Seen many just like him, a couple survived. Survival bias doesn't mean he's special.
Thats not how aerodynamics work bruh
You mean lift. The aerodynamics/fluid dynamics worked perfectly and predictably. Pilot did not use them to their advantage.
Same type of thing happened a Fairchild B 52...sad to watch but anyone piloting banking hard at low level is a terrible idea!!
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