EZ WOOD LOVER MONOTUB TEK, Microclimate Mastery Ft. King Oyster
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- A step by step start to finish tutorial on how to grow any wood loving mushroom in a monotub setup. Featuring the new monotub line from Microppose.com and my favorite King Oyster (Pleurotus eryngii) strain from Fresh Fungi on Etsy. I wanted to work with a species that requires a significant amount of fresh air exchange to fruit normally in order to discuss and demonstrate techniques for manipulating the microclimate within the monotub in order to achieve favorable fruiting conditions. Second flush ended up at 1 lb. 6 oz. That's over $50 retail of fresh kings in two flushes, not bad 💰
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I like that tub, microphone sent me a Christmas present 🎁, and a whole box full of injection ports, and the plugs, and the white little round ones too, but keep it up bro. You talk , and seem very relatable to all of us, not seeming like you reading out of a damn mycology book, and I can tell u a good person, thank you for all your help, and knowledge you share 4 free, that's what a (real) mushroom 🍄 lover does, don't be greedy, and spread that knowledge like mycelium threads, the shrooms, and God will give it back 2 ya, I promise. Keep your head up brother, and keep on growing.
Mush ❤️!
Lil Dav!
Thank you for watching and for the kind words. It means alot to me. Glad you got some new toys to play with for Christmas. Hope you have some awesome grows in the new year!
Mr Renegade, great content as always. simple clear explanation with fantastic camera work. We appreciate all the work. Love how all your videos will show a full run right through to completion and we always get to see the results! You spoil us ! It's satisfying to watch your videos til the end because we know you'll show us the fruits of your labor. I like the black color of the bottom tub :)
Thank you, that truly means alot to me. I've been trying to get better with my camera work and speaking (less filler words etc). It's a process and editing takes a lot of time when your documenting grows that usually take months. Nice comments like this one and all of the support you guys offer makes it all worth it. Thank you.
This is exactly what I wanted to see confirmed as possible. I remember reading a passage in one of the Stamets books about adding a plastic cover over the colonized substrate trays. The sheet would have holes drilled through it to create areas of controlled fruiting. Sort of like having a single point in a bag for oysters to grow. Thanks for the time and the vid!
Yeah, while not really necessary for kings, I was thinking a plastic plate with holes drilled in it as like a "pin restrictor plate" would be a nice accessory for these monotubs. Some species/strains just pin too much for their own good, this king strain can handle it though.
Whole time I was watching I’m like: “man this guy just keeps dropping wisdom” I’m pretty new in my journey but I haven’t found too many creators dropping practical wisdom like this. Thanks so much for making this!
Thank you for the kind words, and I'm glad you found the video useful. You are at an exciting time, just starting out. The rabbit hole is deep, but no matter how far you take it, don't forget to enjoy the ride. You can always hit me up if you have any questions.
I'll definitely be hitting you up, you, 90s mycology and ptg are by far the best myco teachers on youtube!!! Keep up the badass work with simple words :)
Always love your content and editing, seamless. Thanks again.
Fantastic, I can't wait to try! Thank you!
Hope you have success as well. Let me know how it goes, thank you for watching 🧡
I’ll watch you on any and ALL platforms!! Don’t care if it’s Patreon or here. I comment for the sake of the algorithm and I pay my membership because it’s worth every cent!!!
I only wish I could I could go up a tier 😢 …… one day!
Either way, I love your content, I love your presentation, when it comes to medicinal and gourmets………YOU and your dungeon, are the only place I want to learn from!
Thank you for all you do and contribute to the community!!
Please keep up the amazing work!
Mush love, light and kindness, always
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You make me smile, and I appreciate your support and of course the kind words 🧡💚❤️ I'm finding it a little more difficult to engage with people over on Patreon, but your participation over there is great. I hope to be bringing you more exclusive cool stuff soon, thanks again.
So cool!! Such an awesome idea 🫶🏻🍄💙🍄🫶🏻
Thank you for watching, hope it works for you as well if you give it a go. Thank you for watching and commenting 🧡
Thanks for once again sharing your ideas and experiences in a very informative and interesting video 🍄🐐
Thank you for watching 🧡
DUUUDE. Game changer! You seriously rock. Adding it to the list!
Thank you for watching 🧡
Mr Renegade, always nice to hear you! thanks for sharing!
Thank you for watching 🧡
I'm going to have to try this now! I've grown blue oysters to mixed success in a tub but I didn't have to cool mono-tub setup. Nice looking fruits 🍄
Another great informative video from renegade. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Now to check out fresh from the farm fungi
They have some very nice cultures over there for sale. Thank you for watching 🧡
Rocking I was about to try this myself so now I have to figure out a new project! Amazing work!
Thanks, I'm having fun with these monotub grows. That simple humidifier setup really works well.
Great videos man. Informational and high quality. I also colonize in reusable PP5 shoeboxes and move the colonized block into bread bags ive reused with holes sliced. Just wash it all in between with soap/hot water, and as long as you arent using too much (or any) hulls there are no contams on sawdust. About 1 quart per plastic shoebox tub, so high ratio. I hate those single use plastic filter patch bags.
I think it's great to figure out ways to grow effectively while minimizing plastic waste. That's the main reason I'm so excited about getting nice results from these tub grows. Sounds like you are doing well in that regard. Thank you for watching and commenting.
Love your videos.Thanks for sharing your knowledge.I am using a similar tek with shoeboxes and wood lovers.I am going to try covering my bulk spawn with a layer of grain spawn like you do .Makes good sense for protecting the surface from contamination by faster colonization of sub.
Seems to work out well for me, let me know how it works for you. Good luck on your grow 👊
Thank you ❤👌
I purchased your recommended humidifier and humidity controller. Wow, works great! Thanks!
Awesome, it's a super easy effective set-up. Glad it's working for you 👊
Very nice that's pretty slick and EZ
Thank you for checking out the vid, and I appreciate the comment ❤️
Awesome video
Thank you for watching and commenting 💚
beautiful kings!
Thank you, I appreciate you watching and commenting 🧡
Beautiful :D
Would of liked to see the second flush results and how you achieved them. Many thanks for the video
Nothing fancy with kings, you just keep the humidity high and wait, the second flush will emerge about a week after the first.
BUD! I have now eaten Kings, Pioppino, and lions mane multiple times and just wanted to say THANKYOU, especially the pasteurizing tech, i've eliminated all that PCing and thank god for that!! Super appreciate your videos and sharing your knowledge!! Very Awesome
That makes me smile, thank you for the kind words and I'm so glad you're having success. Keep up the good work 👍
@@RenegadeMushrooms yeah fer sure, also, zero contams noticed and ice been mixing about 5% soy in some bags,
Man those are nice lookin. I might have to order that from Gary.
It's my favorite King strain so far, and I've tried quite a few.
AWESOME
Thank you for watching and commenting 🧡
Just now colonizing my king oysters to grains
Cool, they are really fun to grow, and definitely the tastiest of the oysters in my book.
Great video as usual. Started growing mushrooms about a year ago and had good success following your methods - thganks. Will you get subsequent flushes of king oysters from the monotub? Would it require some kind of rest period?
Glad you are having success 🧡 The second flush popped about a week after harvest of the first. Second flush was 1 lb. 6 oz. All you really have to do is keep the humidity up, but it is important to get rid of all of the mushroom tissue from the first flush or the leftovers tend to grow mold by the time the second flush pops.
Nice Monotub grow renegade. Those are some plump and juicy looking kings. I haven"t grown kings yet , but I plan on trying them in an upcoming grow. Will they yield that well in bags too?
Yes, they will. As long as you have a good strain they are pretty versatile. They are fun to grow and the tastiest of the Pleurotus species for my money.
It's a great video! Thank you, Mr. R I am wondering if you can get a better harvest with a monotone. Then you can with substrate blocks?
They're both pretty effective, but the yields are slightly better in bags in my experience. The tubs are easier to setup and fruit though, especially for beginners. Both have advantages and disadvantages, but the main advantage I see to the tub is it is reusable, so no plastic waste.
This is the first video of yours I've watched. Nicely done! Nice clear presentation covering most of the important info. I Have been thinking of trying to bring a wild species into culture. It's a wood eater (pine). How would you run a Pine monotub?
I would use the same process I show here, just with pine/softwood pellets. I always recommend going straight pellets on your first attempt, then maybe mixing in a little bran on your second if the first is successful. This pasteurization process with straight pellets is very forgiving.
@@RenegadeMushrooms ...so you would still start with grain spawn instead of dowls or sawdust?
@@joshuadavis8230 Definitely
Nice work bro. Turns out...I'm doing it all wrong lol.
I could write a novel of the stuff I've done wrong over 20+ years of growing. Just gotta stay positive and keep grinding 👍
Hello there, thanks for the video! I’m trying to grow blue oysters on straw in a monotub. They ended up really long with small caps. I have the holes open. Any suggestions? Thanks!
They're still good to eat that way, but that's indicative of not enough fresh air exchange. Try pumping in fresh humidified air with an ultrasonic humidifier. You can also prop the lid up a bit to allow more air exchange. Lots of options, but learning to read your mushrooms and adjusting accordingly comes with time. Here's a video discussing oyster FAE techniques that may also help you:
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It is actually blinking in reality. The refresh rate of the camera and the read out are close enough for the camera to pick this up. Talk to anyone with natural nystagmus (usually horizontal eye movement) and they will tell you that refresh rates often pair up.. We see them with especially first and second generation LED headlights and other situations. Most people just cannot detect those refresh rates like we can..
But the negative for us is that if we get pulled over by the cops we have to explain nystagmus to them because that is what they are looking for when they shine the flashlight in your eyes.. While it happens naturally it also happens to people when they are drunk or high on some things.. :D
Good stuff, I always found it interesting that it blinked on camera, but never knew the reason behind it. Thank you for watching and commenting 💙
Hey bro cool vid can i do this with mycelium ive been colonising can i layer my cardboard covered in mycelium with this same process
It should work with cardboard but your yields may not be as good. Worth a try 👍
Great video, thanks! Would this likely work for Pink/Blue Oysters and Chestnuts?
Should work for both of those!
I think it would work really well for Chestnuts. The issue I see with Pinks and Blues would be overpinning leading to tons of tiny mushrooms. I think I have a way to solve that issue I'm planning on trying in an upcoming video.
Thanks for the reply. looking forward to the upcoming video! @@RenegadeMushrooms
With your pasteurized BBQ pellets, do you add the buck wheat hulls or any supplements like gypsum /lime?
I live in the Philippines and I ordered 40 lbs of BBQ pellets (Kirkland) consisting of a combination of Oak, Hickory, Maple and Cherry.
Should I just use them alone or with the buckwheat hulls?
It should work well either way. If it were me, I would try it with just the wood pellets first. Then maybe try mixing in some buckwheat hulls on your next try once you have it down.
For your kings, is this your go to substrate, or do you also use Masters Mix at times?
I prefer using simple pasteurization methods instead of sterilization, so I'm typically using straight HWFP or lightly supplemented HWFP with wheat bran. I've been able to go up to 10% wheat bran and still get away with my in-bag pasteurization method I show in alot of my other videos. For alot of my grows geared towards beginner I use straight HWFP with no supplements and just spawn heavy to increase yields. Reason is this method is extremely forgiving and can even be pulled off without a flowhood.
@@RenegadeMushrooms Appreciate the response, man!
very informative video. However, since you are the expert, do you have any reccomendations for how to keep the substrate clean? I am going to start growing in the near future, so now it is research time. It seems that you do not sterilize your substrate that you pack into the tub, how will this effect results? is the oak that you use already pre-sterilized in the package?
also, on some other videos that I have seen, after cutting the mushrooms the tub is resealed and more mushrooms are able to grow. Is this true? and how many times would I expect to be able to harvest. What happens after we can no longer harvest? are there visible markers in the tub that tell us that it is time to discard the batch and start a new one?
once the mason jars are colonized, are the mycelium able to resist contamination more? it seems that the step going from super sterile, closed mason jar to monotub is not very clean! How do you recommend preparing a monotub aside from wiping it down with alchol?
i would not have access to any flow hood, by the way. thank you for any help :)
The oak pellets I'm using are definitely not sterile, but they are relatively clean. This makes them a great choice as a substrate base. I don't sterilize my pellets, I pasteurize them by adding a pre-measured amount of boiling water and holding the heat for 60 - 90 minutes. This is an easier low energy way to prep your substrate vs. sterilization. I have lots of videos on my channel showing that process. You can do this process without a flowhood and have very high success rates as long as you keep everything clean and don't add any high nitrogen supplements. Basically you want to use straight oak pellets, no bran, soy hulls, etc. That being said, if you plan to do this for awhile, you will want to save up and build or buy a flowhood. Grain, like any substrate, is much more resistant to contams once the mycelium has fully captured it. Nevertheless you still have a safe colonization "window" once you spawn it to substrate. You will want to use either ethanol or isopropyl to sanitize your work surface and equipment.
What would be the final spawn to substrate ratio?
14.25 lbs. of sub, 5 lbs. of spawn.
Could a person put the bottom half of the monotone up in a Martha tent to finish it off under already? Established humidity and air flow?
Yes, definitely.
More questions if you don't mind. Here, you use the Betazooer, which is available with a splitter to run 2 hoses for mist, which is my intention. In another vid, you use the Monsoon from Midwest, which doesn't seem to come with a splitter. Does Midwest offer one? I saw you had one. You seemed to like the Monsoon because of the small size of water droplet. Little condensation on the sides of the tubs or tent. Finally, would either of these units be sufficient to humidify 2 tented shelving racks (Marthas) with the use of an inkbird controller of course. Thank you.
They are the exact same humidifier, parts are interchangeable. Only issue you might run into running it on two chambers is the water capacity. They only hold like 2.5 liters or so, so they run out pretty quick. Other than that, I love them.
Perfect. Not concerned with running out of water as I'd be checking on a daily basis. Thanks for the quick response.@@RenegadeMushrooms
Obviously I'm doing a lot of research before I dive into this project. I saw House of hydro sells ultrasonic transducers to make your own DIY humidifiers. It would certainly be an option for someone that is concerned about the small reservoir on the Monsoon. It is an option I am considering. Of course they sell all sizes. I'm just trying to avoid any trial and error. Error being the key word here. As I expand to more fruiting chambers or just a larger one, the large tote of water would work out great. Even a little overkill on the size of the transducer wouldn't be an issue as it is being run with a controller. I hope I'm not over thinking this. I just want to be successful from the git go with the basic equipment to do so.
@@Randyo223 You really need to determine how much cubic footage of growing space you want to have first, then that dictates everything else. If you're going with a larger space, a DIY humidifier with HOH gear may be your best bet. I've made them before and they work great. Hardest part for me was keeping them clean. If that the new eco-clean additive from mycolabs works as well as they claim, that may eliminate the problem.
Would this work well for wine caps?
I think it would, but you would need to add a pasteurized casing layer to get them to fruit. I'm hoping to try that in the near future actually.
Will it work with coco coir I did 2 tubs trying to grow saffron milk caps in the coco coir
Coir works as a substrate for most species. I've actually never heard of anyone trying to grow Saffron Milkcaps this way. I'd be interested to hear how your grow turns out.
Hey Professor. Is there a list for what substrate to use for mushrooms? Thanks
Rookie here why does everyone use spawn instead of some grain in the substrate and then add the LC?
You can do all in one bags, a lot of vendors sell them for beginners. If you really get into it though, going from grain spawn to substrate in two steps is just more effective and efficient.
What device do you use to measure co2?
I don't currently have a CO2 controller. I just watch the behavior of the mycelium/fruit bodies and adjust accordingly, but I've also been doing this for 25 years. Until you get used to all that stuff, Inkbird makes a really nice CO2 monitor/controller. It's around $200 I think, but we'll worth it if you can afford it imo.
@@RenegadeMushrooms thank you and love your videos
@@RenegadeMushrooms thanks for answering my questions one other for you where Oscar good place to get a flow hood that’s not going to break the bank ? Have a great weekend and again thanks for the videos they are so helpful
@@LivingWithCTE www.midwestgrowkits.com/c/43-Flow-Hoods-Clean-Room-Supplies.aspx
Is it worth while to grow lionsmane in a mono, or is the mess not worth it?
I'm actually planning on trying this, hopefully soon. The main problem I see is overpinning with all that exposed surface area. I think I have a solution but I want to test it first.
@@RenegadeMushrooms draping the colonized surface of the monotub with plastic and cutting holes? That's my guess lol. Have you tried yet?
@@eaglefistfu Sort of, but I think the trick is you need to create significant pressure against the top surface. If the plastic is just draped over, I think they will pin there anyway. I have some ideas but haven't attempted yet.
Taking all the filters off during fruiting okay?
Yes, once the mycelium has fully captured the substrate and is ready to fruit, open air is fine.