Is it better to grow succulents in shallow pots?

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  • Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
  • So, apparently, succulents have to be grown in shallow pots because in their natural habitat, they have evolved to grow shallow roots. While it is true that succulents found in nature often grow roots close to the surface, it doesn't mean we have to imitate that in cultivation.
    In this video we'll have a look at why succulents can be grown both in shallow and deep pots. We'll also discuss advantages/disadvantages of both.
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  • @bonniebonnie7149
    @bonniebonnie7149 25 днів тому +2

    Dear Kat, I’m so happy to learn about the problems with shallow pots. For 2 years, I have been trying to grow a bouquet of many different echeverias in a large shallow pot, and now I know why the plants are all short and stumpy! Next step is repotting! Thanks so much ! Bonnie. PS I now live in Calif which is dry, but when I lived in Oregon everything was always damp and rainy and I learned to use shallow pots then.

    • @SucculentGrowingTips
      @SucculentGrowingTips  22 дні тому +1

      I can definitely see how shallow pots can help in a wetter climate. I hope you’re enjoying the warmer climate in California. I’m like the succulents i grow- like the weather warm & dry 😅😅

    • @hefoxed
      @hefoxed 21 день тому

      ​@@SucculentGrowingTipsme, not op, reading the comment about warmth in San Francisco, California: 🤣🤣 🌁
      (SF is year round 50s-60s max, we just had a heat wave called ... When the forecast was just 78, It got to 85 max. We usually only get above 80 a couple of times a year. Many don't have AC).
      I've been growing most of mine in a combination of shallow pots, ground, and cement blocks (the building thing, it makes fun little cubicles and can build up in layers. Very uh rustic...? Diy Look). I've definitely noticed the differences.

  • @Moon_child454
    @Moon_child454 28 днів тому +9

    So true! It depends on what you want- I used to grow my echeveria in small shallow pots in gritty mix under lights. But they always looked more or less the same. Small, colorful with thick leaves year after year. Nowadays, I pot them on in a richer soil and enjoying bigger plants with better roots. Thanks for your content- no one else has the topics and experience that you do!

    • @SucculentGrowingTips
      @SucculentGrowingTips  27 днів тому

      Absolutely 💯 There are so many different ways of doing things. Thank you so much for your comment- it's a superb example 💚💚💚

  • @jennifermuir7886
    @jennifermuir7886 28 днів тому +5

    Your expertise is visible to anyone watching your channel and my outdoor succulents in Albury NSW are thriving since finding your channel. You say time and time again that your videos are based on your experiences and your climate and you freely share your wealth of knowledge with those of us that want to grow beautiful succulents outdoors. THANK YOU

    • @SucculentGrowingTips
      @SucculentGrowingTips  27 днів тому +1

      Oh my gosh- I love this so much! Thank you for taking the time to comment, it's greatly appreciated 💚💚💚

  • @seniorsuecacti
    @seniorsuecacti 26 днів тому +2

    I don’t bother to engage with ornery or disagreeable people. It is best to mute their comments. Thanks for all you do for us. I find your videos very educational. ❤

  • @growwithlynn5939
    @growwithlynn5939 27 днів тому +1

    Very true. Roots tend to go deep as long as there is moisture. In my opinion, they follow to where there is available moisture in the pot.

  • @kerriefearby9542
    @kerriefearby9542 28 днів тому +6

    I totally agree, from experience

  • @mirasoldelacruz_83
    @mirasoldelacruz_83 28 днів тому +15

    To say you are doing it wrong, to someone who's in the business for decades is crazy, really..

    • @SucculentGrowingTips
      @SucculentGrowingTips  27 днів тому +2

      I get it all the time- some people just get triggered when they hear an alternative to their preferred way of doing things 😅Also, thanks so much for your kind comment 💚

    • @mirasoldelacruz_83
      @mirasoldelacruz_83 23 дні тому +1

      @@SucculentGrowingTips Besides, to each their own. Taking care of plants and its results varies in all aspect. Please keep up whatever you do 🫶🏽 Plant owners, growers and beginners needs you and thank you 😅💚

  • @ForeverASucculentAddict
    @ForeverASucculentAddict 23 дні тому +2

    Well said! Everybody has their own way. And what works for some may not work for others. Each person has to grow in a way that works best for them. Thank you for another great video! Bummer they deleted their comments. Juicy drama is fun to read. 😜😆😇

    • @SucculentGrowingTips
      @SucculentGrowingTips  22 дні тому +1

      Haha, who knew there can be so much drama around growing plants 🤣 it makes interesting content though 😬

    • @ForeverASucculentAddict
      @ForeverASucculentAddict 22 дні тому

      @@SucculentGrowingTips Sure does. 😆

  • @cactusbyitze5011
    @cactusbyitze5011 24 дні тому +1

    I agree with you! I have those baby haworthias individually, also have them in a bigger pot and they are unbelievably huge 😂. Great video, thanks!

  • @marialindamartinez8199
    @marialindamartinez8199 25 днів тому +2

    so long as its growing...and the succulents are not complaining...

  • @terirachelsims8928
    @terirachelsims8928 28 днів тому +3

    Many of my succulents get fairly large with long stems and I believe they're too heavy for shallow planters. I agree, too, that they grow larger as they have room for roots.

  • @FrankieFraleyNana
    @FrankieFraleyNana 28 днів тому +3

    Thanks for sharing bc I didn't know that. That's why I haven't been having any luck with echeverias. Thanks again. I'll try that.

  • @Plantsbaby61
    @Plantsbaby61 27 днів тому +1

    We you also know that Haworthia love a deep pot as they long roots

  • @susanlisson7066
    @susanlisson7066 27 днів тому +1

    That’s crazy for someone to state that you’re wrong. I think some people just like to cause trouble. If they actually had any experience growing succulents they would already know that many succulents have longer roots, like aloe vera for example. I also discovered that Corpuscularia Lehmanii has really long roots so I never pot it into a small pot. At least you got to make an informative video thanks to one uninformed individual. lol

    • @SucculentGrowingTips
      @SucculentGrowingTips  26 днів тому +1

      Thank you for your lovely comment 💚I think people just get stuck in their ways and really hate it when their way of doing things gets challenged. But it's definitely great for content ideas when they come into my comments 😂 I've seen so many videos where advice is given to only spray the top of the potting mix, to encourage a more natural, shallow root growth.. I mean, it's not wrong but there are alternative ways 😁

  • @dannybun9332
    @dannybun9332 26 днів тому +1

    Did you notice the grub/caterpillar on your hand at 4:40? 😂

    • @SucculentGrowingTips
      @SucculentGrowingTips  25 днів тому

      haha, i did see it falling on my hand but they don't bother me. As long as it's not a huge huntsman 🕷 (they sometimes hide under pots) i'm good 😅

  • @johnathondavis5208
    @johnathondavis5208 28 днів тому +8

    Hahahaha! Considering your knowledge, experience and the obvious health of your collection....the person making the comment struggles with logical reasoning. They should probably watch, like and sub to your channel to learn why they are mistaken 🤣🤣🤣.

    • @SucculentGrowingTips
      @SucculentGrowingTips  27 днів тому +1

      haha, they should definitely subscribe 😂 But at least i have good content ideas out of it 😬 Just a shame they deleted the comments🙃 Also, tysm 💚

  • @daym8
    @daym8 28 днів тому +2

    This is a wonderful topic however which is meant to be discussed not argued over .. people these days have a short fuse and fail to use logic .
    I just have one question ❓ though Kat do you have to upscale the pot or directly plant a Succulent in a large pot and limit the watering initially?
    Your Succulents are beautiful ... which points to the years of experience you possess Kat 🙏

    • @SucculentGrowingTips
      @SucculentGrowingTips  27 днів тому

      Very true- it's a shame as i love talking about growing succulents even if the other person disagrees. Any disagreement can be done respectfully.
      Re bigger pots- i usually plant them straight in and don't really worry about watering, however, i don't just put them in huge pots straight away but rather upgrade the pot gradually. So, for instance, i start them in 3cmx3cm pots, when they start getting rootbound in that i upgrade to either 7x7 or 10x 10 depending on the plant and then go up from there.🙂

    • @daym8
      @daym8 27 днів тому

      Thank you Kat for for taking the time to reply 🙏 and for the great advice.

  • @juliekeil8791
    @juliekeil8791 27 днів тому +1

    Bravo!

  • @Creations_by_Ann
    @Creations_by_Ann 2 дні тому +1

    Thank you that was good to watch. I love watching your videos I’m learning a lot! I do have a question: in bigger pots do you water less? And do you fertilise? Thanks

    • @SucculentGrowingTips
      @SucculentGrowingTips  День тому +1

      Thank you 💚 Personally, i water everything equally, even the deep pots. They are all outdoors and also get rained on. As long as the potting mix is well draining enough and the pot has sufficient drainage as well, i find they are just fine.
      Having said that, there are cultivars that can be problematic (certain Echeveria cultivars for instance) but they are usually a pain even in shallow pots if its wet and humid enough.
      The potting mix i use has slow release fertilizer mixed in already and i don't really bother fertilizing on top of that. Instead, i repot when the plants are getting rootbound.🙂

    • @Creations_by_Ann
      @Creations_by_Ann День тому

      @@SucculentGrowingTips thank you . I’ve been propping and collecting succulents since about September last year. It’s definitely being an eye opener for me.

  • @clarawillis2437
    @clarawillis2437 7 днів тому +1

    Please how I can select good soil for succulents; I being doing succulents for two months and got like 30 different ones but I don’t know what soil to used; thank for you help

    • @SucculentGrowingTips
      @SucculentGrowingTips  6 днів тому +1

      Imo, the best potting mix to use for succulents is a succulent potting mix. You should be able to get one in your local garden centre (if you're in Australia Bunnings/Flower Power will have a few brands). They are formulated to have the right pH and nutrients specifically for succulents. Hope this helps :)

  • @simplysouthernnails
    @simplysouthernnails 20 днів тому +1

    I have a question. And im not being smart or nothing like that. Just confused. So if they are in a bigger pot how do you prevent root rot? And wouldnt the soil stay wet a very long time because the plant woukd take a long time tobuse it. Also, ive always hears to use a pot 1-2 inches bigger than the root ball? Is that not true for succulents or all plants?

    • @SucculentGrowingTips
      @SucculentGrowingTips  17 днів тому

      That's a good question. I kinda have a video for that 🙂
      ua-cam.com/video/vFUCmUhclBY/v-deo.htmlsi=bLDxe_hX_EuYmcBt
      It's definitely true that the potting mix will stay wetter for longer in deeper pots but that doesn't mean that rot will automatically get into the roots. Rot is caused by fungus and soil dwelling organisms and they are not always present in potting mix. Having said that, there's always a chance but rot can happen even in shallow pots if the fungus is present. If you like to be super cautious shallow pots are a safer bet but, out of the thousands of big, deep pots we grow each year at the nursery, we very rarely have issue with rot. As long as the potting mix is good and you allow the soil to dry out between waterings, deep pots are great.
      Also, a special mention to a small number of Echeveria cultivars- some can be very touchy and susceptible to rot (they seem to be a good host for rot causing fungi) and they will benefit from being kept extra dry. Hope this answers your question 🙂

  • @bobbiechinn9578
    @bobbiechinn9578 27 днів тому +3

    I totally agree with you. If you watch videos of any of them in nature they look like crap and they're small. We're simply giving them better conditions so they can grow bigger and more attractive. Just facts 💚🌵🐝🐦🌻 and no that would not happen in a shallow pot and extremely unlikely in nature as well. I like planting mine in the ground with lots of pea gravel bc they get huge... Not a shallow pot. They die off.

  • @karenkmk4035
    @karenkmk4035 28 днів тому +1

    I’ve done both..never say never 😂..

    • @SucculentGrowingTips
      @SucculentGrowingTips  27 днів тому +1

      I agree 💯 I've done (and still do) both too and, as i said in the video, both can be a good way of growing succulents. It just depends on what you want out of your plants 🙂

    • @karenkmk4035
      @karenkmk4035 27 днів тому +1

      I did mean “never say never” in relation to growing in big pots, not sure if it came across that way. 😊 thanks for fabulous information in your videos..

    • @SucculentGrowingTips
      @SucculentGrowingTips  26 днів тому +1

      @@karenkmk4035 ahhhhh 🙈😅 i did misunderstand- really have to drink my morning coffee before replying to comments 😅🤦‍♀my apologies

  • @Tjsreptileworld
    @Tjsreptileworld 28 днів тому +2

    Not all succulents need shallow planters

    • @BTiffney71
      @BTiffney71 28 днів тому

      Thats right. Succulents like haworthias and mesembs (including lithops) or anything that devolops substantial taproots like peyotes and ariocarpus will do better in taller/deeper pots. And the ones with more fibrous roots like echeverias, crassulas and sedums do better in shallow pots

    • @SucculentGrowingTips
      @SucculentGrowingTips  27 днів тому

      @@BTiffney71 I'm not sure if you watched the whole video, but Echeveria do very well in deep pots as well (I've shown a large, deep pot of Echeveria elegans as an example). They will just grow differently to those in shallow pots 🙂

    • @SucculentGrowingTips
      @SucculentGrowingTips  27 днів тому

      The great majority of succulents can grow happily in both- shallow and deep. They will just look and grow different

  • @NiNiMandariNi
    @NiNiMandariNi 28 днів тому +1

    What is the name of the big haworthia:? :)

  • @howmanyusers
    @howmanyusers 28 днів тому +3

    I want to argue with YOU…. Said no one!! 😂😊❤

    • @SucculentGrowingTips
      @SucculentGrowingTips  27 днів тому +2

      hahahaa- you'd be surprised😅🥲 it's funny coz i don't mind politely disagreeing and having a discussion but some people just love to get mad over nothing 🤷‍♀