dear Will and Sarah. extremely good video and although there are many people doing this sort of thing. it is particularly nice to see one on just vans. there was also another video where the guy only did Wildax which was also good as more selective topics like yourself.very well done and worth you taking the time off work for us. Many thanks
Thanks for the video and enjoyed the show ourselves on Friday. The Eriba van looked nice and suspect the wheels are what we will see on the new Sven as standard. One thing which would really concern me is the carpet material on the walls and ceiling of the bathroom. With all the care in the world you will surely end up with mold? Fibrous cloth material is that last thing I would use in any bathroom never mind a van which over the period of use will have more moisture thah a house. I guess time will tell for those who purchase.
I suppose it depends what the material actually is as it could be nylon or recycled plastic fibres that wouldn't hold moisture. Needs further investigation.
Brilliant!! I really enjoy watching you both as you provide an unbiased view of the vans. I posted a while ago that because of you two, I was thinking of getting a vw transporter. I pick mine up soon. Not converted but Im so excited. thank you very much for taking the time to do the videos. I also subscribe to Staycation Lifestyle. I think you both offer different takes on the same vans which makes it very interesting. thank you both very much.
Brilliant stuff, you must be so excited! Thanks for the kind comments, we just try to be ourselves and share the experiences we have had to try to help others. Happy travels in the new van!
Thanks for doing this video quickly reviewing some brilliant vans with some really nice features. What it has done is confirm that ordering the Westfalia Sven Hedin "classic" 😅 for us was the right choice 👌
Really enjoyed this. Do like the Swift Trekker and the Bailey vans with the pop tops. Planning on attending the Feb show to have a look ourselves. Thank you for creating and sharing
Evening guys, another great production of Campervan Time with a whole selection of vans and equipment too. Really enjoyed all the ones you picked out to show us..(Dodgy toilet roll holder included!!) Really like the swift trekker Xl, and of course the luxury vans with all the details which if winning the lottery I would like to get my hands on. Till next time Health@Happiness to you both
Like you guys we spent a chunk of time on Tuesday looking around the show for a upgrade on our T6,1 BUT the prices into 6 figures we will forget it Did find one we liked with rear lounge and electric drop down bed on the TGE MAN Megamobil 680s but telephone number price DOH! Thanks for sharing you day with us
No worries! The EribaCar was our biggest surprise. We were expecting 90k+ for it and it was a lot less, and on a VW Crafter too. Nothing wrong with a trusty T6.1 though!!
Great show really like the bailey B63 if that one only had a pop top so we could keep the sofa as a sofa and a pop top for sleeping in would be alwsome
I really liked the Adria Twin Supreme 640SGX. Cracking van, albeit no cutlery draw! Everything else on the van was fab. But then the Adria Compact Supreme was similar money and much more luxurious. Always compromises eh!
Love the channel and really enjoyed this review of the show and the way you highlight innovative layouts. Great to see you include some options on the Fiat base too - even though I agree with Will about the Stormtrooper! 😄
Interested to see the comments on the Eriba Car. I’d been looking at this on the Eriba website and using the configurator and struck by the value for money. Agree that it’ll sell like hot cakes, looks and design way better than the Grand California and will challenge the pricing of the other German competition.
Actually for the first time we have been going to the NEC shows, YES! The Westfalia Columbus 540d on the Wandahome stand is a brand new model including the new ducato base van and it had £5k off list. Last time at the show Wandahome were giving away a tracker and alarm... so yes, better discounts!
We have the B62 and no you can’t hear the shower door though Bailey need to address issue we have like not being able to go off grid with out fault codes coming up and having to pull fuse but that’s another story
I love seeing all the innovation (slide out, custom shower trays, polystyrene interiors, fancy skylights etc etc) but to justify these prices these vans need to have 25 year life spans so good luck trying to find parts for these vans in 20 years! My Vantage might be built like a 1990s caravan but the worse I'm facing in another 10 years is veneers that don't quite match.
I must admit the more custom electronic stuff I see in the vans the more I worry about longevity too. I like in the westfalias that they have moved to the dometic control panel rather than their own OEM panel, as this might be more serviceable in the future etc.
Depends what bits you’re after. If it’s bits to build a van then it’s not great. If it’s awnings, camping stuff like bbqs, chairs, crockery, tvs etc etc then pretty good!
I noticed that the NEC that on the W failure stand, there was no kepler one. Is this mainly for. the Europe now or have the stock producing it for England?
Great video, thanks. Am I correct in thinking that the Bailey B65 is fairly similar to the Swift Trekker X ? I do like the look of the Trekker X, but the diesel heating and clever bathroom door of the Bailey are tempting.
The B65 is a rear lounge layout like the Trekker XL (not the X, that's a rear bed). The diesel heating is a big plus - we wouldn't fancy a van with gas heating if we could help it but if you are on a lot of sites with electric hookup it would be ok. Gas systems do use quite a bit of gas if you're heating the van a lot. I remember Andrew Ditton did a video where he used a 13kg bottle in 6 days whilst using a Truma Combi gas heating system. Remember also the Bailey has a pop top and the Trekker XL doesn't, so that is where some of the price difference comes from.
@@CampervanTime I was thinking of the original Trekker X and the new B65, both rear transverse fold away beds.. I guess the XL is closer to the B62. And to complete the picture to me the B63 looks similar to a B64 without a pop up roof, and slightly different front lounge layout. Interesting stats on Gas usage, thanks for that.
Didn't really see any there but that isn't to say there weren't - we obviously were looking at certain types of van but there was certainly a trend at this show towards bigger vans rather than smaller. Micro caravans yes though.
Great video BTW. We love the Sven and intend the buy a 2025 model. However, your enthusiasm for the Eriba has questioned our decision. There is a significant price difference although comparing the two isn't straight-forward. Putting aside the underfloor heating in the Sven and cosmetic design differences they both use the same chassis, engine, and electronic aids. It is the same van but configurable and probably £10K+ cheaper. The Eriba in a van format is however unproven. So our question is what does the Sven have to justify its additional £ and not remain your best buy for 2025?
Very good question and we've just had a chat about that. It would be a close call I think in 2025 if we didn't have a van and we were trying to chose between them. We think we'd probably still go for the Sven - main benefits being: heating system not being blown air (+underfloor obviously), bench seat that reclines/is adjustable for comfort, no cupboards in the garage under the bed meaning easier to store different things (2x bromptons, boxes, long chairs etc etc) and the pop out as we're not overly keen on the flares that have to be added to sleep transverse in a TGE/Crafter. That said, there is a big saving (over a Sven) to be had with the EribaCar...
The new nose on Fiat vans suggests to me that Stelantis group, parent company are following the Peugeot styling rather than Fiat. After all Fiat, Peugeot and Citroën including Dodge and Vauxhall are the exact same vans.
Hi, love the review and you’re my “go to” reviewers! I’m blaming you for hours of internet camper watching….. Were you disappointed with the 2025 Sven? I think one of the upgrades on the 2025 was the electric hook up option for the heating and I remember from one of your previous videos comments it was something you’d like to have. Do you also know if the alloys that are supplied on the 2025 are the Deltas? The Westfalia info I’ve seen is very vague and they don’t look like them in the small pic in the catalogue.
We weren't disappointed with the new edition of the Sven, it's just a bit different. We'd still have ordered one even now if we didn't have ours. The electric heating option would be nice but the diesel heater is economical so not a big issue for us. The alloys on the 2025 are the MAN 17" alloy option - Lismore is what they are called on the Crafter (in black, from the factory).
@@CampervanTime Did you ever find the cutlery drawer? You mentioned that it was labelled as a prototype build, so are we expecting minor changes? Interesting that the cabinets have the same fronts as the Columbus, but different catches, which doesn't make much sense.
Guys, I think Wandahome owe you another beer! I just bought a new Sven from them and I’m blaming both of you! I thought I was excited before but this is now on a different level until next year.
I think the Weinsberg also has a Cleanflex toilet - no cassette! These toilets are also available on the Knaus vans and we ordered one today at the show! No more chemicals for us! Yay!
I went to the Isle of Skye in 2022 for a first campervan trip in a Ford Rental. It was noticable to see many Germans in Mercedes Sprinter 4x4 vans, it was new to see these vehicles to me. Now in 2024 it seems they are being pushed as high end vans to sell to Brits, trying to push up peoples spending with this trend.
The new Columbus looks like a step back from the previous one. No more drying rack in the washroom, no more skylight in the washroom too so steam gets trapped. Less drawer space in the kitchen and blander interior. In the top cupboards, they've moved the locking mechanism bang in the middle of the storage surface, how stupid.
The new design certainly is different. We were surprised on the Sven they have done away with the two drawer custom fridge but I can understand why when you look at the new dometic control panel they're using etc.
The market is nose diving . People just wont pay these insane prices anymore for what is basically a pokey little work van . I feel sorry for the poor mugs who buy these things on finance !!!! is there anything more stupid ?? having said that the kaktus dune was pretty nice !!
Well done for getting the video up so quickly and so well produced.
Great to meet you and look forward to meeting properly soon.
Great video and good to see in your vid what I didn’t see myself 😀
Two of my faves in one film. Keep it up Steve!
Great to finally meet up too Steve - let's get together soon!
The crossover we all want to see!!
Cheers guys. Those Kaktus are just the business..love the toggles & the quality.
They really are top notch. Need to spend more time with them I think 🤔
dear Will and Sarah. extremely good video and although there are many people doing this sort of thing. it is particularly nice to see one on just vans. there was also another video where the guy only did Wildax which was also good as more selective topics like yourself.very well done and worth you taking the time off work for us. Many thanks
Our pleasure!
I like the table. Coming from a caravan the lack of surface space in a motorhome was a worry but I find it useful.
Well done yet again.... two of my favourite channels, meeting at the show this year. Great film you two, thank you!
Still love my Cali Beach
Thanks for the video and enjoyed the show ourselves on Friday. The Eriba van looked nice and suspect the wheels are what we will see on the new Sven as standard. One thing which would really concern me is the carpet material on the walls and ceiling of the bathroom. With all the care in the world you will surely end up with mold? Fibrous cloth material is that last thing I would use in any bathroom never mind a van which over the period of use will have more moisture thah a house. I guess time will tell for those who purchase.
I suppose it depends what the material actually is as it could be nylon or recycled plastic fibres that wouldn't hold moisture. Needs further investigation.
Brilliant!! I really enjoy watching you both as you provide an unbiased view of the vans. I posted a while ago that because of you two, I was thinking of getting a vw transporter. I pick mine up soon. Not converted but Im so excited. thank you very much for taking the time to do the videos. I also subscribe to Staycation Lifestyle. I think you both offer different takes on the same vans which makes it very interesting. thank you both very much.
Brilliant stuff, you must be so excited! Thanks for the kind comments, we just try to be ourselves and share the experiences we have had to try to help others. Happy travels in the new van!
Thanks for doing this video quickly reviewing some brilliant vans with some really nice features.
What it has done is confirm that ordering the Westfalia Sven Hedin "classic" 😅 for us was the right choice 👌
Incredible, thank you, crumbs you worked hard for us all, you would need another day off work to recover ❤All very interesting. Xxx
Really enjoyed this. Do like the Swift Trekker and the Bailey vans with the pop tops. Planning on attending the Feb show to have a look ourselves. Thank you for creating and sharing
You're welcome!
Evening guys, another great production of Campervan Time with a whole selection of vans and equipment too. Really enjoyed all the ones you picked out to show us..(Dodgy toilet roll holder included!!) Really like the swift trekker Xl, and of course the luxury vans with all the details which if winning the lottery I would like to get my hands on. Till next time Health@Happiness to you both
Very kind of you to say, thank you
Like you guys we spent a chunk of time on Tuesday looking around the show for a upgrade on our T6,1 BUT the prices into 6 figures we will forget it
Did find one we liked with rear lounge and electric drop down bed on the TGE MAN Megamobil 680s but telephone number price DOH!
Thanks for sharing you day with us
No worries! The EribaCar was our biggest surprise. We were expecting 90k+ for it and it was a lot less, and on a VW Crafter too. Nothing wrong with a trusty T6.1 though!!
Crafter new model with digital dash coming soon hence the better prices on current stock, I think anyway. Great vid again.
Great show really like the bailey B63 if that one only had a pop top so we could keep the sofa as a sofa and a pop top for sleeping in would be alwsome
There’s always a catch with each spec or model isn’t there!
Great show review guys - thanks 👍
Our pleasure!
First class review guys. Great video.👍
Thank you! 👍
This is the video I was waiting for,unable to attend NEC this year. Thank you so much for your video !❤❤
Have fun watching!
I laughed when you highlighted the styrofoam in the Adria. My husband is always banging his head in our 2 year old Adria Twin, he definitely approves!
I bet!!
I really liked the Adria Twin Supreme 640SGX. Cracking van, albeit no cutlery draw! Everything else on the van was fab. But then the Adria Compact Supreme was similar money and much more luxurious. Always compromises eh!
Yep - every single van is a compromise, just have to find the sweet spot for you
Love the channel and really enjoyed this review of the show and the way you highlight innovative layouts. Great to see you include some options on the Fiat base too - even though I agree with Will about the Stormtrooper! 😄
Glad you enjoyed it!
Interested to see the comments on the Eriba Car. I’d been looking at this on the Eriba website and using the configurator and struck by the value for money. Agree that it’ll sell like hot cakes, looks and design way better than the Grand California and will challenge the pricing of the other German competition.
"I've never been a fan of the Ducato ..." hahahha - made me spill my drink.
Sorry... we're not awful people like that honestly! We do much prefer the MAN / Crafter / Sprinter though :)
@@CampervanTime yeah, it's an honest preference! I'd rather have one of those three also. I wonder how the Transit stacks up to them these days?
We're hopefully finding out soon re the Transit - sorting out something in the background to feature on the channel soon!
Great review of the vans on offer 👌
Thanks! 👍
The tools are not terrifying its the person who is swinging them are. Nice video thanks for making it
Very true !
So happy to be watching this 😍 and you are viewing some of my favourites.
Do you think there are good discounts at the show?
Actually for the first time we have been going to the NEC shows, YES! The Westfalia Columbus 540d on the Wandahome stand is a brand new model including the new ducato base van and it had £5k off list. Last time at the show Wandahome were giving away a tracker and alarm... so yes, better discounts!
According to Hymer museum in Germany, the UK is mispronouncing Hymer, it should sound like who-mer 😮
Same with BMW 😂
High quality finish on the hymer? I can see the stickers on the front of the shower hiding the screws
We have the B62 and no you can’t hear the shower door though Bailey need to address issue we have like not being able to go off grid with out fault codes coming up and having to pull fuse but that’s another story
That's good to know about the shower door, thanks! Not so good on fault codes :( Hope you get sorted soon
I love seeing all the innovation (slide out, custom shower trays, polystyrene interiors, fancy skylights etc etc) but to justify these prices these vans need to have 25 year life spans so good luck trying to find parts for these vans in 20 years! My Vantage might be built like a 1990s caravan but the worse I'm facing in another 10 years is veneers that don't quite match.
I must admit the more custom electronic stuff I see in the vans the more I worry about longevity too. I like in the westfalias that they have moved to the dometic control panel rather than their own OEM panel, as this might be more serviceable in the future etc.
@@CampervanTime I should have added control panels to my list!
Excellently presented,yet again. The tracker xl price seems very competitive. I assume it's got solar on the roof,like the other 2?
Yep - 110w on the roof 👍
Great review guys 👍🏻
Might pop down at the weekend, what’s the show like for bits for vans ?
Depends what bits you’re after. If it’s bits to build a van then it’s not great. If it’s awnings, camping stuff like bbqs, chairs, crockery, tvs etc etc then pretty good!
I noticed that the NEC that on the W failure stand, there was no kepler one. Is this mainly for. the Europe now or have the stock producing it for England?
Not too sure to be honest. I know they are starting to struggle for T6.1 base vans and they’re transitioning to their new range now though.
Great video, thanks. Am I correct in thinking that the Bailey B65 is fairly similar to the Swift Trekker X ? I do like the look of the Trekker X, but the diesel heating and clever bathroom door of the Bailey are tempting.
The B65 is a rear lounge layout like the Trekker XL (not the X, that's a rear bed). The diesel heating is a big plus - we wouldn't fancy a van with gas heating if we could help it but if you are on a lot of sites with electric hookup it would be ok. Gas systems do use quite a bit of gas if you're heating the van a lot. I remember Andrew Ditton did a video where he used a 13kg bottle in 6 days whilst using a Truma Combi gas heating system. Remember also the Bailey has a pop top and the Trekker XL doesn't, so that is where some of the price difference comes from.
@@CampervanTime I was thinking of the original Trekker X and the new B65, both rear transverse fold away beds.. I guess the XL is closer to the B62. And to complete the picture to me the B63 looks similar to a B64 without a pop up roof, and slightly different front lounge layout. Interesting stats on Gas usage, thanks for that.
You’re right, sorry, have seen so many vans in the last 48 hours with lots of new models !
Are there any micro campers there or micro camper conversion specialists ?
Didn't really see any there but that isn't to say there weren't - we obviously were looking at certain types of van but there was certainly a trend at this show towards bigger vans rather than smaller. Micro caravans yes though.
Great video BTW. We love the Sven and intend the buy a 2025 model. However, your enthusiasm for the Eriba has questioned our decision. There is a significant price difference although comparing the two isn't straight-forward. Putting aside the underfloor heating in the Sven and cosmetic design differences they both use the same chassis, engine, and electronic aids. It is the same van but configurable and probably £10K+ cheaper. The Eriba in a van format is however unproven. So our question is what does the Sven have to justify its additional £ and not remain your best buy for 2025?
Very good question and we've just had a chat about that. It would be a close call I think in 2025 if we didn't have a van and we were trying to chose between them. We think we'd probably still go for the Sven - main benefits being: heating system not being blown air (+underfloor obviously), bench seat that reclines/is adjustable for comfort, no cupboards in the garage under the bed meaning easier to store different things (2x bromptons, boxes, long chairs etc etc) and the pop out as we're not overly keen on the flares that have to be added to sleep transverse in a TGE/Crafter. That said, there is a big saving (over a Sven) to be had with the EribaCar...
Thanks Will. Exactly the conversations we've been having. Really useful. Phil
The new nose on Fiat vans suggests to me that Stelantis group, parent company are following the Peugeot styling rather than Fiat. After all Fiat, Peugeot and Citroën including Dodge and Vauxhall are the exact same vans.
Hi, love the review and you’re my “go to” reviewers! I’m blaming you for hours of internet camper watching…..
Were you disappointed with the 2025 Sven? I think one of the upgrades on the 2025 was the electric hook up option for the heating and I remember from one of your previous videos comments it was something you’d like to have.
Do you also know if the alloys that are supplied on the 2025 are the Deltas? The Westfalia info I’ve seen is very vague and they don’t look like them in the small pic in the catalogue.
We weren't disappointed with the new edition of the Sven, it's just a bit different. We'd still have ordered one even now if we didn't have ours. The electric heating option would be nice but the diesel heater is economical so not a big issue for us. The alloys on the 2025 are the MAN 17" alloy option - Lismore is what they are called on the Crafter (in black, from the factory).
@@CampervanTime Did you ever find the cutlery drawer? You mentioned that it was labelled as a prototype build, so are we expecting minor changes? Interesting that the cabinets have the same fronts as the Columbus, but different catches, which doesn't make much sense.
No we didn’t manage to find a cutlery drawer or tray in it, so need to see what they do with a production one. Not sure!
Guys, I think Wandahome owe you another beer! I just bought a new Sven from them and I’m blaming both of you! I thought I was excited before but this is now on a different level until next year.
I think the Weinsberg also has a Cleanflex toilet - no cassette! These toilets are also available on the Knaus vans and we ordered one today at the show! No more chemicals for us! Yay!
Sounds great!
I went to the Isle of Skye in 2022 for a first campervan trip in a Ford Rental. It was noticable to see many Germans in Mercedes Sprinter 4x4 vans, it was new to see these vehicles to me. Now in 2024 it seems they are being pushed as high end vans to sell to Brits, trying to push up peoples spending with this trend.
The new Columbus looks like a step back from the previous one. No more drying rack in the washroom, no more skylight in the washroom too so steam gets trapped. Less drawer space in the kitchen and blander interior. In the top cupboards, they've moved the locking mechanism bang in the middle of the storage surface, how stupid.
The new design certainly is different. We were surprised on the Sven they have done away with the two drawer custom fridge but I can understand why when you look at the new dometic control panel they're using etc.
The market is nose diving . People just wont pay these insane prices anymore for what is basically a pokey little work van . I feel sorry for the poor mugs who buy these things on finance !!!! is there anything more stupid ?? having said that the kaktus dune was pretty nice !!
do not like the interior hairy sides.
No doubt that new Ducato front end cost a lot less to produce than the previous and far prettier one.