For your son to hear you publicly gush about how much you love him and how much you value your relationship has got to make him feel on top of the world.
@@veronicabanales5255I suspect your father forgot to tell you a few important things, so I do my dad interpretation right here and now for everyone who needs a teaspoon of fatherly love: You are fantastic. You do very well, you are so pretty, sweet, kind and funny. You are the apple of your father's eye. We love you so much. I'm so very happy that you are my child!
I’m not being snarky, but Michael and Bruce had a long, hard stretch and they have had serious ups and downs. But to both their credit, they came out the other side, Michael got straight and into law school and obviously loves the media field. When Bruce is praising him I often think how much more you appreciate something you almost lost. I think there was a long stretch when they couldn’t imagine working together. Extremely happy for them.
I have worked out in the Community and have seen alot of awfully messed up situations ..... yes you HAVE to have a dry sense of humor as it gets you through extremely stressful situations👍 You are extremely well balanced to understand that of your Parents🤗😯
Bruce I’m a forensic psych student and have been binging your videos like crazy lately!! You have such a great disposition and sense of humor. Shoutout!!
You know what this case reminds me of? The foster kid my parents took in when I was 7. Dad was so desperate for a son & mom so greedy for $ that they knowingly took in a 15 yr old boy who had set 2 of previous foster homes on fire. Sure enough, 2 weeks into him living with us he set our house on fire while we slept. Lit the curtains & bed on fire in his room & lit the curtains & sofa on fire then walked out. He just stood there in the yard watching our house burn. We didn't have smoke detectors either. Luckily, what we did have was a collie that wouldn't stop barking until we got up.
The woman we bought our house from was single and had a teenage son. Right after they sold us the house they moved to another state and we learned that her son stabbed her to death while she slept on their sofa because she wouldn’t let him go to a basketball game that night. Just frightening.
These stories are so baffling to me. Like, how was that kid not ballsy enough to just walk out… just go to the basketball game… what’s the worst she could do, yell a little? Ground you? Oh the horror! It’s too horrible too imagine! No no, I’ll just murder her instead. Surely the consequences of that will be much less severe. Like 😂 what the fff
Thank you for speaking briefly on Reactive Attachment Disorder. I adopted my daughter at age 6. She has severe Reactice Attachment Disorder and she has attempted to murder me several times, along with a slew of other violent behaviors. We have participated in extensive therapy, seminars, in-patient hospitalizations, spiritual support and so on. It’s a disorder that defies logic and leaves the entire family traumatized.
That's crazy I mean I'm one to never give up on someone I care about unless they do something beyond Bad...something EVIL..and trying to kill me meets that criteria though if it's a mental disorder and we know for a fact he or she can't control ..man that's a tough one but I think I'd most likely stand by them and keep trying to somehow resolve these issues but I couldn't fault anyone who couldn't handle it
Similar thing happened to my elementary school principal. She adopted a kid from a third world country. When he was 17 he was dating an adult woman and my principal and her husband told their son he couldn’t date her. The two of them ended up torturing and unaliving my principal and her husband. He got life in prison, then PA changed the law that you can’t get life if you were a minor during the time of the crime. His sentence was changed to over 100 years lol.
My husband was adopted, he’s the middle child with an older & younger sibling who weren’t adopted. He is very non-aggressive but doesn’t naturally show much affection, uncomfortable hugging etc but I’m thankful for his steady calmness
I've heard some adoptees say they felt like a duck being raised with chickens. I imagine that would be true amongst a bunch of bio kids. But seems if you're not treated differently then most of that is coming from within. One needs to consider that life they might have had if not put up for adoption. I would guess
@@FRAME5RSI disagree. What does thinking about their life “if they had not been put up for adoption” help? I mean, dude, you’re just begging for a kid to think it’s all their fault…when the reality is, it’s not. In the slightest. This is one of the few times where I genuinely believe that too. If you had POS parents, parents that were too young to raise you, whatever it is…it truthfully does not matter beyond that point because it’s not on you. I would actually say that someone adopting you shows a completely different kind of love. They had a choice in this(which the overwhelming majority of kids these days don’t because girls just end up pregnant by some dummy, or whatever it may be lol) and they decided they wanted to raise you as their own. And to me, that’s just amazing. Idk how someone could ever look at their adopted parents like they’re somehow lesser than a biological parent…that’s just bs. If they love you like their own(because you are) which I know a lot of them do, then you are theirs. I just will never understand someone trying to rationalize it any other way. I do understand a child not knowing any better though. Like, yeah, I get that. Insecurities, doubts, all that good bs…you’re going to go through all that when you’re young, so someone that’s adopted might be insecure about being adopted, another kid might think about their nose being too big lol it’s all just nonsense at the end of the day. It’s nonsense we all dealt with before, but nonsense nonetheless. Why in the world would you suggest someone SHOULD think about this? Lol make it make sense? Btw, ever heard the saying “blood is thicker than water”? I’m sure you have. Well, that’s not the entire saying. Look up the entire thing. I forget what it said word for word…but I know that it was saying bonds that are made outside of family…they can be much stronger than bonds of someone that you really didn’t have a choice to be around. And that makes perfect sense to me. Ever since I found out that cliche was actually just the cut short version, I’ve always held the same belief(and I was like 14-15) not that I didn’t believe it before…I just never had thought about it like that. So yeah, maybe in this case the adopted one wouldn’t technically have had a choice? But the one that adopted them did…so it certainly still works the same. It should just reinforce the point I been trying to make here…that their parents are THEIR partners. There is no biological this, adopted that…not in terms of how much they love/care for you. I’ll never understand anyone that believes otherwise…although I’d like to hear other perspectives!
@@jordancave3089 First off, I'm female. Secondly, when did I say they feel like it's their fault. All for explaining why they were given up and at a certain age they can understand. But you can't help but want to know where you came from genetically. I am still trying to figure out who my maternal grandfather was. No because I will ever meet him, or I have any social connection, I just want to know.
@@FRAME5RS i did say that was what you intended…but where do you think it would go if you told a…idk, confused, insecure, whatever…14 year old that even though they’ve been adopted forever, maybe they should think about life had their biological parents not basically thrown them away lol I mean, that’s how they’re going to take it…whether you meant it that way or not. They may not take it that way right off the bat but since you’re literally telling them to put some real thought into it…where else could that possibly go? Lol as far as you being a female…just how I speak. Saying things like bro, dude, man…It’s not a gender thing. It’s just my language patterns lol and even though I personally don’t really get into things like that…heck, both my grandfathers passed longgggggg before I was older enough to even know what a grandfather is…and maybe that’s why I never really thought about meeting them? But regardless, I know people are different…and I know that’s something that certainly makes sense. However, i probably wouldn’t recommend it for a kid..and it’s still a lot different from what you originally said. Idk how old are you, obviously, but I’m gonna assume you’re an adult…telling an adult that it makes alot of sense to try to find a close relative(if possible) if that’s what they want…but telling a kid to think about their life had they never been put up for adoption? I mean…cmon, man lol what could that possibly do for them?
I was adopted from Athens, Greece by a military family stationed in Ankara, Turkey. My parents are in heaven now and I miss them very much. Not all adopted kids are evil!
Of course not!! How you were nurtured from the beginning of your life tends to be the indicator of how stable an adult you become. Of course that's not everything but without that kind beginning being a well rounded and empathetic person is difficult.
I spat my drink when I saw how deep that axe was, that must've required an unimaginable amount of force, just everything you can muster. To imagine that the guy speaking normally enough in the interview would be able to do such a thing, wow
I so enjoy the way you bring humour and yet some sense to serious situations. Btw…I was seventy when I found out that I was adopted and the man who reared me on his own was not my biological father. I’ve never resorted to violence, although I’ve come very close a few times at the football (Rugby League) 😁 Australian police would not take as long to arrest and transport people to the station 🙄
@@maggiealcock5628I don't mean to pry but I'm always interested in adopted tales. If you don't mind me asking, how did it make you feel when you found out? Did it change anything for you?
I was adopted at birth (3 days old). My parents (the people who adopted me) raised me as absolutely best as they could and told me that I was adopted as soon as I could begin to understand it. Despite my parents holding me as a baby and doing the best they could I inadvertently developed attachment syndrome which was manifested as being rather emotionless. Not mean or cruel, just overall flatly affected. As a side note our family has a friend who adopted a girl from an orphanage in Siberia. It was reported that the baby girl had never been held and grew up in a crib for the first 4 years of her life. As she grew up in her new American home she would push brother down the stairs and hit sister. Thankfully though the family was able to get her on tract and she is now getting her master's degree from Miami of Ohio!
@@yosemite735 Yes but it was better than being raised in a drug house by addicted parents. (Although interesting enough I also had addiction issues despite my adoptive parents never doing drugs a day in their life)
@@yosemite735it is way better than abortion!!! I know these orphanages are full of children and not enough workers but they have to find a way to make sure these kids get counseling so they don’t turn out that way.
I was adopted. When I turned 13, there were a bunch of stories in the Enquirer about adoptees killing their parents. My adopted Mom was not that smart. She took me to a psychiatrist, saying she was worried that I was going to kill her. The Dr talked to me for 5 minutes, said I was fine, and told her he wanted to see her twice a week. She died 35 years later of natural causes.
>She died 35 years later of natural causes. A likely story!! Just kidding, that was a good read. I hope the regular visits helped her to live a good life with you :) I'd love to adopt or foster at some point in the future when my son's a bit older, I know I couldn't handle it right now on top of everything else though.
@@renegade-master29so the ‘smart thing’, - is for every adoptive parent to one day take the kid to a psychiatrist? Just in case? Incredible thinking that, on so many paranoid, logistical and spurious levels.
As a teenager I didn’t have the luxury to not think about the consequences of my actions on even things in my far future, like possible future work. Not saying that I didn’t do anything stupid, but whatever I did was far from killing anyone. While regular teens do stupid stuff all the time, I don’t believe that they’re not mature enough to know that killing someone has consequences… this kid clearly has other issues.
I don’t think anyone is insinuating, the issue with this kid, is “Age-Related.” There is clearly something very wrong with a kid who kills his mom, like this, and then the interview that follows, where he has zero emotion. This isn’t natural behaviour, period.
I literally just said the same thing with his emphasis on "boys brains." It always seems as if boys are excused more, as if there's no difference btwn right from wrong as a "teen." Cmon. Like you said kids do dumb things but killing, that's not an "immature" mistake, from any sex imo
Beard certified criminal defense lawyer. Happy 1 million man, I’ll be waiting for that subscriber party in Vegas now that you guys have a million. Well deserved. We appreciate you
I was born in Lima Peru and was given an adoption by my Mom when I was a baby. I definitely did and am still working through my attachment & identity issues/disorder as a grown woman. It’s definitely crippling and hurts every fiber of your being but with the right supports and self love you can believe that YOU on your own is lovable and belong! May his mother RIP, all she wanted was to love her baby and bring him here for a better life
I was never adopted but I was in Foster Care and a Group Home from January 97 to August 2001 and it was pretty damn tough for me too as 2 of the homes I was in Mistreated me but still I never even thought of killing them so this idiot has no excuse for what he did...I know all about Mental Issues as I'm still going thru them and probably always will but I hope u are some day soon able to escape the shadows that envelop U..also you're a cutie
If you let something happen to you as a child affect you this much as an adult you’re just a weak person who cares who your mother is a who you came from you get to decide who you are now if you’re wining about it it’s just a crutch
If you let something happen to you as a child affect you this much as an adult you’re just a weak person who cares who your mother is a who you came from you get to decide who you are now if you’re wining about it it’s just a crutch
It is pretty much impossible to describe the intensity of a parent’s love for their child to someone who hasn’t felt it but you, Bruce, do a good job of it.
It will never cease to amaze me how many of these people actually think they committed the perfect crime. You’ll always get caught: don’t do the big bad thing.
I think we can all quite easily agree with the detective's assessment/diagnosis. Kid didn't show a single iota of emotion until the detective put forth a subtle accusation... to which he very suddenly seemed 10 times more bothered by being labeled a sociopath than the fact that his mother was found with her head damn near cleaved in two by an axe.
It's called dissociation and is a survival tactic employed by abused children. A true sociopath trying to get away with this would be bawling their eyes out for the purpose of performing the role of Victim
@@elizabethstafford5773 Truth is neither good nor bad, it just is. Our belief persistence in the presence of evidence to the contrary is what hurts us. Then again, we have no control over the circumstances that leads to the degree of our belief persistence
Also someone with ASPD would be unlikely to get visibly angry in this scenario, that would more likely of narcissism. Callousness / reduced affect are symptoms of multiple disorders
@@TheKrispyfortYep. But if you're lucky enough or self educate, you can learn to view yourself and your own biases objectively and make changes over time. Just have to strengthen critical thinking skills and objective reasoning and recognize feelings are real but don't often comport with reality. Might hate a thing but that thing might be objectively harmless so even if you feel a way, if you understand it's a bias you can change your behaviors and over time your feelings can catch up. But we need more people to have easy access to such knowledge in the first place. Too few seem to understand such basic things.
I saw this need for his brain to mature happen with my own nephew. He finally grew up around 27 years old but had two felony strikes by then. He’s not been in trouble (legal trouble) in the 20 years since then. He grew up without coping skills that he didn’t develop for a long time. Our young men need more help than they get, really.
Yeah man a lot of who we are in our early years is purely socioeconomic conditions pressing down on us. A lot of people who others define as criminals are very regretful and did not fully understand the weight of their actions. This is why most criminals are so young.
For all the talk from conservative powerful people, who believe that raising children is so important, in a society that claims to love and protect children, we really fall short on the care of these children. In addition. , some of these rich folks could do more to help. And we also need to Overhaul pur child protection services ( Department of Children and family services, or wjatever they are called.
People under 25 hate when you talk about this because they think that it means you are belittling them. I was already married, bought my home, and had decent jobs by then. But you know what? I still wasn't the same mature that I am now in my late 30s. Sure at 23 for example I was way more mature and understood things better than I did at 18 but I wasn't 100% there yet. The way I've told people it felt was that at about 25 I woke up one day and a lot of stuff made sense. And then at about 30 I knew how to use that stuff that made sense in my life because I had time to actually practice using my brain to think completely. But then about 35 I really understood more and gave up (this is partially a joke, mostly covid related)
It's because they don't have positive male role models in their lives. They can do their best, but a woman can't raise a man. I know most think that's not true, and I know there are plenty of examples, but that's part of the problem. If the words "wait until your father hears about this" doesn't strike fear in a boy's head, the father is to blame.
As usual very good insight from Counselor Rivers. Thanks for always pointing out what's missing in certain individuals and reaffirming the humanity in the rest of us.
I love that Bruce is so unapologetically himself, and his personality is the type that I get along with pretty easily so this channel is always so refreshing and entertaining to watch.
I’d love to see him in action in a court of law…he has absolutely no filter, raw all the way to the bone-absolutely human, the best! It would be reaaallly hard to reel that back in, on a “professional” level, so to speak (only cuz they have to for the courts and all 😏)…but somehow I’m sure he manages, would not be easy though! 😂he’s just so GD free and raw, unfiltered to the Nth degree…the way every human being should be, people would feel so much better about things…just telling the truth!
I have a friend who had adopted many foster children along with her regular family. Total 11. Husband owned an engineering company so wasn't about money. She adopted another child (adopted) from a couple from their church....Oh my goodness. This young girl had DETACHMENT DISORDER. Within a year (despite counseling, private bedroom (for safety etc), and a lot of intervention, this little girl became more and more dangerous behavior hiding knives, coffee pot, and tools in her bedroom. There was more that wasn't shared with me. But the family didnt feel safe. The parents petitioned the courts to cancel the adoption and the child was surrendered back to the state. She has been institutionalized since.😢 That ax picture was horrid. PS Sorry if this triggered people. There are many varibles. Im certain that foster personalities like these: drug abuse and pre-existing mental health issues in the parents as well as environmental sutuations, the parent's histories/the legacy that gets passed down for generations.
Bruce i really respect how much you fully support your son... my father worked his ass off to support our family an i will always be extremely grateful for rasing me to respect my elders he just wasn't the kind of father that gave compliments an never told me he loved me...i know he loves be but it would have been nice to hear your son is a lucky man to have you as a father
His disconnect is actually painful and shows how messed up he is. Sad.The lawyer sees the irony but the fact that this kid doesn't is just so disturbing.
When my mom passed away on a blood clot that gave her a heart attack, and I found out, I couldn’t cry, we had not talked for three years and then I’m about two or three months I believe it was right before she passed away we kind of started talking again And then I had to fly from Virginia to Colorado and I didn’t make it before she did pass away. I think I cried for like a minute or two and then I didn’t cry at the wake for the get together we had after work and I didn’t speak to anybody for three years, unless it was an emergency, or I had no other choice but to open my mouth to someone, my mother was very abusive to me. I love my mother because she was my mother, but I hated her with every ounce of empathy and me there was a man absolutely nothing I wish there was, but there was none. Now my grandmother Was my father‘s mother when she passed away that about killed me because I believe my mother was schizophrenic or just plain psychotic and so my grandmother raised me she was my mother my mom is my mom, so I can very well see why he had no empathy for what he did It’s horrible that he couldn’t feel anything when he did what he did not even enough to shed one tear however, all we see you on the phrase is it just what is shown in the interrogation room and what’s been told about the murder and what does Lawyer have to say about the situation, we truly do not know what has happened to that kid except for the fact that she adopted him and we all have to assume that she loved him because we have to take the situation at face value but unless it is specifically said, we absolutely don’t know if that woman beat the hell out of him each and every day and unfortunately unless you’re in that situation or whatever situation he lived with her and you were specifically there throughout his life then the only thing you were going to see in here is what he did to his mother, which sucks because I would’ve liked to of known the overall situation just besides the fact that she and then he killed her
Why would a child comprehend the irony of their behavior? Complex thoughts are usually a trait developed after the prefrontal cortex is developed, which doesn’t happen until after adolescence
This was a really sad case. Imagine from her perspective in the years leading up to her death… she must have been noticing strange antisocial behavior from him and getting progressively more scared of him and desperate in her situation. To fear your child, whom you undoubtedly also love, just horrible. And if somehow Bruce reads this, I appreciate your sense of humor and how you balance it with empathy in your videos. You have such a fresh perspective compared to a lot of other true crime content (which I also enjoy), and it’s interesting to hear about cases from your view.
Yea, Bruce is very rational and smart. Like he said, "if he broke my arm? Oh you're going to a fucking home. A juvenile facility. See ya later." Id have pressed charges for breaking my arm and had him committed until he was 18 or sent to one of those highly abusive work camps they sent paris hilton to. 😂 out of love, of course.
@@Janellabelle Right.. acting like the child is a dog that he can just return to the shelter he came from. Then they wonder why these kids end up with such anger towards the people who raised them.
You’re a great father! I have a special relationship with my two boys(10 & 13) where they are able to speak to me like pals, though they understand that when it’s time to work especially on their schoolwork, dad becomes serious. Your relationship with Michael encourages me to keep going because I’d like that at 26 like him, they should be able to spend time with me and not feel like we can’t relate at any level! I had a strict vertical relationship with my father, and when he turned 60(I was 30 at the time), we had very little in common, we never argued or anything because I was still scared of him, but I never knew what to say to him. He got really hurt on many occasions because he had to hear a lot about me from my mother, eg that I bought myself a car, that I met someone etc etc, but it was hard for me because I was not used to discussing stuff with him like that. We did make progress but it was tough. I’m learning from you BR and MR!!!
Im a 66yr old male , l had a very bad childhood, my father knifed my mother twice , threatened one of my sisters with a rife, hit me at the back of my head with a lump of wood ,l need 20 stitches and mum pleading for not to call the police. When l turned 17 and a ha,f l joined the Navy to get away. I had many thoughts of killing my father but never did. What this evil boy did with a axe and the force he did it with is just mind blowing. That evil little lowlife.
@@janetdobie9722 Thank you 😊 lm living on 5 acres in the middle of the beautiful Australian bush with lots of animals, finding peace. I'm a local fireman now. Xxxx
I am always impressed when Attorney Rivers turns to the cameras and directs younger people to be aware of life changing decisions. Possibly Producer Rivers should make an old school reel with Bruce Rivers top five “Don’t fuck up your life - teenager edition”! Of course, a “No Self Snitching” Prolog!
The scariest part of this was when I realized what the picture was. I originally thought it was a skull with a portion blurred out so we couldn’t see the damage. I can’t tell you how long I stared before realizing it’s an X-ray and the big “blurred” portion is actually the axe. Truly terrifying! I don’t want to imagine what she looked like physically.
Every time I think you have outdone yourself with your sense of humor, you go and kick it up another notch in your next video. Sir, you are freaking hilarious. Thank you so much for putting a smile on my face. I suffer from depression, and watching your videos helps a ton.
I grew up the daughter of an attorney. There was no getting anything by him. I would be interrogated until I admitted fault. The only advantage of this was a knowledge at a very young age, that I really couldn’t get away with being an idiot. It is idiotic to believe you can get away with murder ever. This seems obvious, but I guess not to everyone.
@@Adam32777 Yeah, but Trump is so narcissistic and stupid he thinks he can get away with anything...even stealing top secret intelligence reports to sell to the leaders of North Korea and Russia, his autocratic buddies. Thank goodness Barron's intelligence will come from his mother's X chromosome.
This case has MUCH MUCH MUCH more than what we hear in this interrogation! I just listened to EWU Crime Storytime on this. There’s SO much to this story. I mean, yikes. And there’s even a little brother who was also later adopted from Guatemala and was either problematic himself or was abused by Denise to lead to problems. There was mention of neighbors having pets chopped in half. Just a bad bad situation all the way around, with some points of okayness sprinkled in.
There was no hint to abuse in this case. Lease note that this son was already 4 years old when adopted. We don’t even know what happened during his crucial time of his formative years.
@@Celisar1 theyre referencing the mother locking them in bare rooms all day, which is questionable parenting at best when your kid is acting insane. Unless she never took him to a shrink, he was not abused or neglected
Attachment disorder is a terrible thing to witness. My husband and I were in the foster system to adopt because we were not able to have our own kids. One of the babies we had in our care was 2 1/2 and we were her 8 time she had been bounced around and she had attachment disorder terribly. Is was awful to see the impact it had on her. She was in a world of her own and there was no getting through to her. Unfortunately the system would not give us the help we needed to deal with her issues and we could not handle her. It was so very heartbreaking all the way around 😢
I feel like I didn't become a real person until 30. Like I'd fast-forwarded through my 20s cuz there wasn't much to see, and there really wasn't. Aging does some people wonders. It did for me.
A friends daughter adopted 2 boys ages 8 and 6.She had a lengthy introduction time with them. After adoption the older one became difficult to handle. She found out later his birth parents had abused him. As a teen among many other problems he threatened to kill her. He was in and out of trouble in juvenile court. She tried finally to relinquish rights of him but was told she couldn't. The adoption agency lied to them by with holding information that may have changed their mind about the adoption. The younger one had learning disabilities and was beginning to take up the older child's bad behaviors ( lying, petty theft, bad attitude ).It was such a sad mess.
Damn a really similar thing happened to my family when I was younger. Had two foster siblings and the sheet with all the older boy’s diagnoses was “accidentally left out” of the information my parents received about him.
I mean to not want to adopt a kid because he was abused is kind of sh*tty. Doesn't seem like the behavior of a loving parent, so maybe all of the blame shouldn't be on the former parents.
@@QnzColdest it’s an all around sh*tty situation absolutely. And it’s absolutely to blame on the former parents. It’s not the kids fault but that doesn’t mean you should put your life at risk. They need professional help, if you are not equipped to help them then they need someone who can. A bio child with dangerous behavior would also need to be placed in a residential treatment facility. It’s horrible all around for everyone involved
@@humansizedbirdnest9435it's one reason why a lot of parents want to adopt newborns, so that they are not yet missed up. I've also been reading when agencies do try to place an older kid (don't know OPs friend situation) they try to put them with the same race of the adopted parents, and if a single woman or single man tries to adapt they try to place a same sex teen/child. That way they could connect better. A good agency or adaption judge will also grant a trial period, to see if both adult and child connect. If this kid had a trial period with an adult male of color, some one he could throw a football with, there is a lot better chance he would have felt appreciated in love.
As an adopted child myself... I don't think we attach like other people do, no matter how good the family is. Not necessarily to the point of psychopathy, but I notice we can withstand really difficult situations without reacting emotionally as well as tending to cut off relationships that aren't working for us. Not generally with an axe, though.
No one in the history of ever , who was even remotely normal ,would come upon a murder victim killed by another and say to themselves:"Oh no! A dead person! ! I'd better chop them up/throw away their stuff/ set fire to their house so no one thinks I had anything to do with it!". And yet, "I panicked, and...." is a classic. It's so much more fun to watch this interrogation a second time with your commentary! It's terrible, but I laughed all through this thing. I am a bad, bad person.
@JDogggg69 people dont normally panic to the point of chopping up a random dead body they came across & had nothing to do with originally and burning the house down in order to ensure they arent assumed a suspect, lol
The fact that this dummy thought he’d get away with putting an axe in the back of his own mothers head, after he broke her arm and created absolute chaos in her home, is just beyond. New sub here! Gonna go binge now :)
Oh my gosh you're in for a treat! All kinds of different cases you'll see, and Bruce is SO damn likeable. He's got a great sense of humor and has tons of professional experience and life experience. I learn sounding everytime I watch and I laugh everytime I watch. Have fun binging!! 💯
"Teens don't understand consequences" That depends on how they were raised. My dad drilled the concept of consequences into my head starting when I was like 8 or 9. I had a solid grasp on consequences when I was a teenager. That kept me out of so much trouble that my friends got into.
I'm 62 and my dad did the same.He was a really good man.He let all of 4 kids know that all your actions have consequences. And he always said unaliving is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
@@sqredreaperwhy would you ask these questions? If you are asking because this happened to you I’m very sorry that happened. I believe that most adults need some sort of counseling. There is nothing wrong with looking to someone for help or direction in our lives.
Reminds me of that scene in The Shining where Jack has to stick out his tongue a bit from the full force of striking Mr. Halloran with an axe. Fuck. That was just a movie and I can't unsee that.
My mom was verbally abusive and there was no having a conversation with her to work things out, but i never ever contemplated putting an ax thru her head. Not even a fantasy of it. This kid is sick. Thanks for making me laugh thru thus horrible thing, Bruce and Content Genius. Love you guys!
It is different with kids who were actually physically abused. Verbal abuse is bad, but it crosses a whole different line if your mom actually put hands on you. If what he alleged was true(with the physical abuse and stuff) I could understand him. I mean, I had a pal who was raped multiple times by his grandfather as a kid and the family stood behind the pedophile and accused him of making stuff up. He then made plans to kill his entire family which was found and he got institutionalized for a while. He doesn't feel as homicidal nowadays but I don't blame him for wanting to kill his family. One thing you people forget when you call someone the devil is that sometimes their life is just hell. Hell that you could never imagine without having been there.
Same here. Mine was so overwhelmed by anxiety that everything was a catastrophe and she could go from zero to a hundred in no time flat. Talking was not going to happen; nothing was ever truly solved. I never thought of killing her either. If I was going to kill anyone, it was going to be myself. This was 50 years ago, but I still remember how I felt at the time.
Bruce is killing me laughing. He has this wonderful mixture of sympathy towards victims and harshness towards bullies. Yet at the same time wants to defend people. As he always says it has be proven beyond reasonable doubt. I was sexually assaulted and worried myself sick for a year, the old creeps excuse was ‘ I was looking for a lighter.’ The defence was speechless. I was asleep on my couch fully clothed with a blanket on top of me. They found his DNA and if I had not woken up it could have been much worse. Found out later he preyed on people. I find Bruce easier to understand than the people supporting me. They were so harsh, it was awful. Anyway he lost, 5 years in a UK prison, means he served half. However I get why Bruce does it I wonder though how tough it is knowing a rapist or chmo might be back on the streets. ❤❤❤❤
I'm a happily married woman in my late-40s, and I gotta say - I'm loving the hell out of the beard. Not every guy can pull it off, but Bruce's got that whole silver fox thing going on, and I'm here for it. 🤘😎
Wow, this one really touched me. Your explanation of adoptive children (although many are successfully adopted), your humor and empathy combined in such a way. Very emotional, very moving. Thank you for the great content.
This makes me so thankful for my daughter, who is a very kind, caring, compassionate and very creative person. I tell her that she's a blessing to me all the time, and I know that you feel the same way about your genius content creator son, Michael Rivers. We have to count our blessings in this world. I'm sure that you're as proud of your son as I am of my daughter.
Same here my daughter(my only child so far) is 18 and she's always been a good girl..she got in trouble from time to time but not near as much as me or her grandparents on my side...I used to get my ass whipped by my grandma(my mom's mom) who raised me(along with my aunt, my dad's sister)from a baby until I was as both my mom and dad ended up in prison within the first 10 months of my life but anyway I got my ass whipped as a kid and I always told myself I'd never do that to my kids and while I've popped her for being bad she's never done anything that would warrant an ass whipping even if I was like my grandma..I'm yapping but my point is I got lucky like u to have a daughter who's inherently good thru and thru
You are spot-on in your analysis of teenagers. I'm falling around laughing at your funny comments during his questioning. I also love your little anecdotal comparison stories. Thanks for great video.
You know one reason I subbed to Bruce is not just great content and delivery, but the man is honest enough to curse just like I do. Studies have shown that it DOES point to honesty. 😊
Most parents, even in tough times, have nothing but unconditional love for their kids. And they will always be those same old kids, regardless of age. Situations like this are horrible. Poor woman must have felt extreme grief as this relationship got worse and worse.
I really enjoy watching your reactions. Knowing that they are terrible situations ; yet you have such comedic and smart answers. You keep it interesting.
"I'll give my life for him, but not in this way!" Just have to appreciate the CLR's sense of humour. It is so interesting to watch. Thank you, Mr Rivers.
You're closing words about this was a message to anyone watching. No problems are that severe that you can't resolve it with words.. Such wisdom for those listening
Bruce, you videos have been such a comfort for me lately! I’ve been going through a lot of life changes (good and bad) and the consistency of your content has been so nice to have during these turbulent times. Congrats to you and Michael on 1 million, keep up the great videos !! :)
Asking the child to Leave isn’t just for the safety of the adult, but to protect the child from his own impulsivity and to try to get him help before he ends up in justice system. It’s also a realistic consequence and boundary setting
I always thought it was of the upmost importance to somehow teach my children empathy. With my son , he shot a lizard with his BB gun and I sat down with him and asked him if he thought maybe it’s parents or brother or sister were waiting for it to come home and play. And it would never get to go home and play. He began to try to awaken it and felt bad. With my daughter she loved to catch frogs. And I told her make sure not to hurt them and put them back so they could go back home and play. They both learned empathy. Whether it is just part of their character or taught to them I can only guess. But I get the feeling this boy was never denied until the time he broke her arm. But who knows. I did read an article a few years back that questioned if psychopaths and sociopaths were born that way or made that way. I tend to think it’s somewhat both. This young man was probably doted on and bragged on a lot as a child.
the second he starts getting mad you can tell the rage and aggression is in him. its only held back because theyre cops, but even then its barely below the surface. frightening the impact neglect and abuse has on people.
My husband has had a beard on and off for decades. When our youngest was a toddler, he shaved it off after having it for about a year. Youngest walked up to him, placed her hands on his face, and said, “I’m so happy, Daddy! Now I can see your cheeks!” We still say that now every time he shaves off the beard, and that was like sixteen years ago now. ❤
Towards the beginning of the pandemic, my dad shaved his beard because he’s an infectious disease specialist and it was recommended he shave to better fit his mask over his face. I found this change a bit unnerving because he’s had a beard all my life
@@resplndnt The sad thing is, he's shaved and re-grown it so many times now that I barely notice! Lol, I'm just so used to seeing him both with and without it (and these days he goes back and forth pretty quickly, though as the weather starts cooling he'll probably grow and keep it until spring), it usually isn't until he kisses me that I realize there's no more beard but there was one that morning! Which, now that I think of it, is rather unnerving for me, too. It makes me feel bad that I didn't notice immediately. (In my defense, the beard is silvery these days, he keeps it pretty short, and he's fairly pale. Also in my defense, we've been married over 23 years and are very happy; it's just that I look into his eyes, not at his jaw!)
@@dqverify6797 wow! 23 years is amazing! You guys obviously are a great team! I just started a business and would love to send Bruce a business related gift, how would I go about doing that? I’ll put something in for you too!
I tell you what, I love your content. I work a job that allows me to listen to my headphones all day and when I take a break from music I come here and enjoy listening to you explain all these self snitchers' actions and the laws behind the scenes. I love that with each video you show you care about the person(s) involved (officers, civilians, alleged criminals) and you give them empathy, either for the person(s) committing the alleged crime(s) or for the lawyer(s) having to deal with their cases. Either way, you do an excellent job and I like your taste in blended scotches/whisky s that you showed while biking across Alaska, Canada, and the northern United States states. Thank you for your content.
The ax was almost completely through her head! Many don't ever stop to think about what all those involved in the justice system have to see along with healthcare professionals and those that have the horrific task of cleaning up afterwards. I don't know how anyone deals with that and would think if you didn't find a way to have a sense of humor about it you might eventually not be able to deal with it anymore. Which is exactly what happens to our combat veterans.
@@tradez5799but how does this affect your world view? Like your town? And other people you meet? I’ve been curious on this, so please a thoughtful answer.
@TheAntonioclewis "but how does this affect your world view? Like your town? And other people you meet?" ... ...view on what exactly? Seems like a pretty vague question.
I love how Bruce sums it all up when he sees that the kid was sharpening the ax! 😂 Working with the public is very hard..I truly appreciate Bruce’s sense of humor!
We've told our sons - 20 and 9 yrs old - that if they EVER find themselves in police custody or being questioned, to just shut their pie holes and wait for us or an attorney. Period. Full stop. Even if they know they did absolutely nothing wrong, they are to not say a word. They are to exercise their RIGHT to remain silent. The truth will come out- good or bad- eventually.
@@canwoopWho said anything about committing murder 😂 she just said if they are ever in police custody. People get questioned by the police for anything & everything. Maybe their teenager is hanging out at a party a few years from now, minding their own business, when another kid falls off the roof or drowns in the pool. You best believe the police are questioning every damn kid at that party. And this parent is 100% correct- it doesn’t matter if you were across the street when it happened, or if you’ve never even met the other kid- wait to answer any questions until you have a lawyer or parent present. It’s always, always in your best interest to enact that right.
The only issue is that they need to vocally announce that they are claiming their fifth Ammendment protections before remaining silent or they can be held and charged for obstruction otherwise. Courts have ruled on this many times unfortunately.
Do not tell them to ask for you. They don't have a constitutional right to have you present. They DO have a constitutional right to have an attorney present. The phrase I would suggest (as a non-lawyer, so not legal advice) is "I will not answer any questions without an attorney here. Get me an attorney immediately." The wording is important. If they say something like "I think I want an attorney" that is NOT a demand for an attorney, it's an expression of their mental state at the time. They have to actually demand an attorney. So "I will not answer any questions without an attorney. Get me an attorney immediately." takes away any argument that it wasn't a demand or that the invocation of rights was ambiguous. And they have to stand by that. The cops can't continue questioning them after that point, but if they start talking to the cops, then the cops can start questioning again in some circumstances.
Bruce: "there's no problem that can be solved with an axe that can't be solved with words" me: *standing outside having a serious conversation with my logs that refuse to split themselves*
I worked at a place called Kidspeace in Pennsylvania. It unfortunately was a place where kids with behavioral issues,SA issues and mental disabilities lived. I realize that there were people who were sociopaths and antisocial, etc. I never thought I would meet a six year old who had no feelings and poured hot water over his newborn brother because he was jealous. This kid also had some really bad behaviors. Not just a focus on him but this kid reminds me of some of the kids that I was a nurse too. It is so sad. I hope he gets help.
Watching you save in my bed here in Christchurch new Zealand,you are my favourite channel now, love the witty comments from you and the videos are great watching ..keep up the great work 😊😊
“There’s no problem that can be solved with violence that can’t be solved with words and love” Amen, Bruce 🙏 This is why I love your content and watch you any time you upload a new video. Props to Michael, your content creator genius too! 👏 “I love Michael. I would give my life for him. Well not like that, but you know. I love him to death. Well maybe I shouldn’t say to death.” (Paraphrasing) That just sent me baahahahahaa! 🤣🤣
Bruce, have a request! There is an interrogation of a kid who was shot in the eye by, I believe, his girlfriend’s brother and father who tried to break into the house. The kid has a huge black eye from being shot, but I guess it obstructs the source of the injury, so the cop doesn’t believe him and essentially tortures the kid for an hour telling him he’s not going anywhere. The kid keeps saying that he just wants to go to sleep and he’s trying to tell the cop that he’s been shot, but the cop doesn’t believe him and is questioning him as a suspect. The kid ended up going to the hospital and had an infection and permanent brain damage because of the delay, and ultimately died of a seizure in 2016. I’ve heard that the detective went to prison for three years, but can’t confirm. Would love to hear your legal take on the detective’s decisions and behavior. Thanks for all the great content!
BRUCE RIVERS TALKING ABOUT ATTACHMENT DISORDER 🙌i'm in college for Clinical Social Work and I approve. thank you for bringing that up. Attachment is so important. I do want to add that not all people with attachment disorders are sociopaths. Some just need to learn who they can trust and how to manage their emotions. I keep editing but this stuff is important. There is also conduct disorder in pre teens and teens, which is where they are just wired to disregard rules/laws and other human beings.
Fantastic video. I’m raising a kid that just turned 18 and Bruce is so seasoned with teens, I couldn’t have agreed more with his commentary. 😂😂😂 Great message too - nothing you can’t solve with words. Love it.
24:12 shit yes. I’m a child abuse survivor. I remember times I felt angry enough to harm the abuser because I was sick of him hitting and kicking me. I’m sure not advocating anything requiring premeditation but..sorry, there are cases where people are truly asking for it. Edit: congrats on that victory-I hope your client got a light sentence.
Man I was kept in a basement, brainwashed and almost took myself out by the torture from a man who forced his way into our family. My mother didn't give a shit so long as she was taken care of. She kept having kids to men who would then abandon us (and the number kept growing..) I was the eldest and stayed to protect them through hell. I endured p3dophiles, starvation, SEVERE isolation, verbal, emotional, sexual abuse, ALL of it but being physically beaten. And I did have thoughts at that time growing up of being the one who saves my little siblings and 'do the world a favor" but in the end. I cannot protect my family from behind iron bars. There was no reason for that man to do what be did to us. He did not have trauma nor mental illness. He simply preyed on the weak and found my mother desperate with a group of kids behind her. Some people deserve the worst.
One of your best. Appreciate the humour, it is a great example of how it can help you to get through some terrible details. Having you talk so openly and lovingly about your son was a perfect foil for the total lack of anything that this guy showed his poor mother.
Bruce, I do think that children can understand consequences. Every action a child does has either a positive reaction or a negative reaction. It basically comes down to parenting children. It doesn’t matter you’re social economic status, or the marital status of a parent. It basically begins at an early stage with a toddler; using the word “no!” is a good beginning. Thanks to you and your son for providing this clip. Stay safe and happy everyone.
I agree with you 100% as far as children understand consequences, and with every action there is a reaction, but to what extent? Children are selfish individuals by nature, it's part of growing; experiences and gaining empathy. I think where they fall short is seeing how their actions affect others. They know they will have consequences, but not necessarily the harm they are doing to everyone else around them.
He didn’t say they don’t understand consequences. He said they don’t understand future consequences. Like my dog understands the immediate consequences of stealing all the food from the kibble bag (I get mad). She doesn’t understand potential future consequences (no food for tomorrow because it’s ordered online). Same with teenagers and drunk driving. Current consequences of being caught are deemed acceptable(parents get mad/cops get called) vs potential future outcome (losing license/manslaughter charges/severe disability) are not considered or dismissed immediately as a possibility.
For your son to hear you publicly gush about how much you love him and how much you value your relationship has got to make him feel on top of the world.
For real, I wish my pops was like that
He's dad of the century potential
@@veronicabanales5255I suspect your father forgot to tell you a few important things, so I do my dad interpretation right here and now for everyone who needs a teaspoon of fatherly love:
You are fantastic. You do very well, you are so pretty, sweet, kind and funny. You are the apple of your father's eye. We love you so much. I'm so very happy that you are my child!
It’s great you can do projects together. Good vibes to you and family!
I’m not being snarky, but Michael and Bruce had a long, hard stretch and they have had serious ups and downs. But to both their credit, they came out the other side, Michael got straight and into law school and obviously loves the media field. When Bruce is praising him I often think how much more you appreciate something you almost lost. I think there was a long stretch when they couldn’t imagine working together. Extremely happy for them.
I'm so glad Bruce is still Beard Certified
Hope it stays for a couple months at least 😁
It fits him very well
Me too!!❤
My goodness, what a beautiful beard!
Right?!! Lol
He just went from 25 years to life to life with no parole in 5 words.
"I remember sharpening the axe."
Yes your right here l agree with you on this
The way he said it is even more creepy. He said that that like if he was going to cut some wood
Right. He could have argued heat of passion, a fight, maybe got 20 years but he admitted it all. Wow.
Right? I laughed so hard I almost fell out. 😂😂
So crazy. I've never sharpened an axe. Who has?
“Is there any chance I could get it expunged later?” sent a CHILL up my spine…
How he did not realise the severity of the situation is beyond me. What an absolutely tapped bloke
that's the sentence i asked my lawyer after an underage drinking charge. saying it after burying an axe in your mother's head is CRAZY.
As a child of a doctor and nurse, I can appreciate the gallows humor. It helps to get through the serious stuff with your sanity.
me too, these kind of stuffs stresses me alot but i just have to know and learn for awareness
Yeah I don't laugh like Bruce does tho...
I have worked out in the Community and have seen alot of awfully messed up situations .....
yes you HAVE to have a dry sense of humor as it gets you through extremely stressful situations👍
You are extremely well balanced to understand that of your Parents🤗😯
@@alejandrososa3168you also take weird selfies and are the 3168th person with that name so... who cares what a nerd like you thinks XD
Lol love the humour 😂
Bruce I’m a forensic psych student and have been binging your videos like crazy lately!! You have such a great disposition and sense of humor. Shoutout!!
Bruce is the BEST
You might find my criminal case interesting. I was evaluated but two forensic psychologist.
Right?! He infuses intelligent conversation with humor and an appropriately placed f-bomb. Bruce is a treasure.
Yeah I’ve just discovered him and he makes the grizzly details less horrific somehow with dark humor …otherwise just shudders😮and cold grim facts😨
You know what this case reminds me of? The foster kid my parents took in when I was 7.
Dad was so desperate for a son & mom so greedy for $ that they knowingly took in a 15 yr old boy who had set 2 of previous foster homes on fire.
Sure enough, 2 weeks into him living with us he set our house on fire while we slept.
Lit the curtains & bed on fire in his room & lit the curtains & sofa on fire then walked out.
He just stood there in the yard watching our house burn.
We didn't have smoke detectors either. Luckily, what we did have was a collie that wouldn't stop barking until we got up.
Holy motherfuckin shiiiiit
What a horrible situation. I hope your parents didn't keep the kid. I'm glad you survived.
Thank God for Lassie 🐕
What happened after that?
yeah what happened after that
“Everything they see [on social media] is a measure against themself.” Brutal truth.
Yes, well said ❤
The woman we bought our house from was single and had a teenage son. Right after they sold us the house they moved to another state and we learned that her son stabbed her to death while she slept on their sofa because she wouldn’t let him go to a basketball game that night. Just frightening.
That's chilling.
Very spooky too !
These stories are so baffling to me. Like, how was that kid not ballsy enough to just walk out… just go to the basketball game… what’s the worst she could do, yell a little? Ground you? Oh the horror! It’s too horrible too imagine! No no, I’ll just murder her instead. Surely the consequences of that will be much less severe. Like 😂 what the fff
Femicide rates are rising across the globe. It’s very worrying. That poor mother 😢.
Kids......
I love how Bruce talks about his son. It’s just so touching. Thank you Michael and Bruce for your efforts in providing quality content.
Me too.👍 Thanks guys , wonderful show.
I love how Michael figured out a way to make money off his father's success ❤💯
Why publicly? That's a personal relationship that should be kept personal. Any outward gloating of ANYONE usually sound disingenuous.
@@kendallevans4079Depends on the circumstance. I think it sounds very genuine here.
@@Openingtheshadow Could be, but why tell the world? Family is just that..Family
Thank you for speaking briefly on Reactive Attachment Disorder. I adopted my daughter at age 6. She has severe Reactice Attachment Disorder and she has attempted to murder me several times, along with a slew of other violent behaviors. We have participated in extensive therapy, seminars, in-patient hospitalizations, spiritual support and so on. It’s a disorder that defies logic and leaves the entire family traumatized.
That’s awful, I’m so sorry. May I ask how old she is?
That's crazy I mean I'm one to never give up on someone I care about unless they do something beyond Bad...something EVIL..and trying to kill me meets that criteria though if it's a mental disorder and we know for a fact he or she can't control ..man that's a tough one but I think I'd most likely stand by them and keep trying to somehow resolve these issues but I couldn't fault anyone who couldn't handle it
its why single mothers stay single
Thank you for continuing to try to be her mother despite her violent behavior, many would have put her back in foster care
God bless you fir trying to help
Similar thing happened to my elementary school principal. She adopted a kid from a third world country. When he was 17 he was dating an adult woman and my principal and her husband told their son he couldn’t date her. The two of them ended up torturing and unaliving my principal and her husband. He got life in prison, then PA changed the law that you can’t get life if you were a minor during the time of the crime. His sentence was changed to over 100 years lol.
The more I watch Bruce the more I realize, he's born showman. Very natural on screen, good for him. Love your stuff Bruce!
He sure is!
I love watching and listening to him.
He’s so funny and relatable AND everything he says makes absolute sense.
My husband was adopted, he’s the middle child with an older & younger sibling who weren’t adopted. He is very non-aggressive but doesn’t naturally show much affection, uncomfortable hugging etc but I’m thankful for his steady calmness
I watch the show because I love this guy's laugh and for his genuine reactions like Fucking-A.
I've heard some adoptees say they felt like a duck being raised with chickens. I imagine that would be true amongst a bunch of bio kids. But seems if you're not treated differently then most of that is coming from within. One needs to consider that life they might have had if not put up for adoption. I would guess
@@FRAME5RSI disagree. What does thinking about their life “if they had not been put up for adoption” help? I mean, dude, you’re just begging for a kid to think it’s all their fault…when the reality is, it’s not. In the slightest. This is one of the few times where I genuinely believe that too. If you had POS parents, parents that were too young to raise you, whatever it is…it truthfully does not matter beyond that point because it’s not on you. I would actually say that someone adopting you shows a completely different kind of love. They had a choice in this(which the overwhelming majority of kids these days don’t because girls just end up pregnant by some dummy, or whatever it may be lol) and they decided they wanted to raise you as their own. And to me, that’s just amazing. Idk how someone could ever look at their adopted parents like they’re somehow lesser than a biological parent…that’s just bs. If they love you like their own(because you are) which I know a lot of them do, then you are theirs. I just will never understand someone trying to rationalize it any other way. I do understand a child not knowing any better though. Like, yeah, I get that. Insecurities, doubts, all that good bs…you’re going to go through all that when you’re young, so someone that’s adopted might be insecure about being adopted, another kid might think about their nose being too big lol it’s all just nonsense at the end of the day. It’s nonsense we all dealt with before, but nonsense nonetheless. Why in the world would you suggest someone SHOULD think about this? Lol make it make sense? Btw, ever heard the saying “blood is thicker than water”? I’m sure you have. Well, that’s not the entire saying. Look up the entire thing. I forget what it said word for word…but I know that it was saying bonds that are made outside of family…they can be much stronger than bonds of someone that you really didn’t have a choice to be around. And that makes perfect sense to me. Ever since I found out that cliche was actually just the cut short version, I’ve always held the same belief(and I was like 14-15) not that I didn’t believe it before…I just never had thought about it like that. So yeah, maybe in this case the adopted one wouldn’t technically have had a choice? But the one that adopted them did…so it certainly still works the same. It should just reinforce the point I been trying to make here…that their parents are THEIR partners. There is no biological this, adopted that…not in terms of how much they love/care for you. I’ll never understand anyone that believes otherwise…although I’d like to hear other perspectives!
@@jordancave3089 First off, I'm female. Secondly, when did I say they feel like it's their fault. All for explaining why they were given up and at a certain age they can understand. But you can't help but want to know where you came from genetically. I am still trying to figure out who my maternal grandfather was. No because I will ever meet him, or I have any social connection, I just want to know.
@@FRAME5RS i did say that was what you intended…but where do you think it would go if you told a…idk, confused, insecure, whatever…14 year old that even though they’ve been adopted forever, maybe they should think about life had their biological parents not basically thrown them away lol I mean, that’s how they’re going to take it…whether you meant it that way or not. They may not take it that way right off the bat but since you’re literally telling them to put some real thought into it…where else could that possibly go? Lol as far as you being a female…just how I speak. Saying things like bro, dude, man…It’s not a gender thing. It’s just my language patterns lol and even though I personally don’t really get into things like that…heck, both my grandfathers passed longgggggg before I was older enough to even know what a grandfather is…and maybe that’s why I never really thought about meeting them? But regardless, I know people are different…and I know that’s something that certainly makes sense. However, i probably wouldn’t recommend it for a kid..and it’s still a lot different from what you originally said. Idk how old are you, obviously, but I’m gonna assume you’re an adult…telling an adult that it makes alot of sense to try to find a close relative(if possible) if that’s what they want…but telling a kid to think about their life had they never been put up for adoption? I mean…cmon, man lol what could that possibly do for them?
I used to tell my children not to choose a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Specificallly speaking of suicide, but it applies here, too.
Wise advice Jeb👍
That’s an awesome bit of wise advice! 💙
Yea, having your child ax murder you would be a real bummer
That doesn't apply to everybody some people have permanent depression
I give my daughter this advice all the time! 💜She’s about to be 14 and kids are just so mean these days.
I was adopted from Athens, Greece by a military family stationed in Ankara, Turkey. My parents are in heaven now and I miss them very much. Not all adopted kids are evil!
Hmm... I don't know. You did say they were in heaven now...
Of course not!! How you were nurtured from the beginning of your life tends to be the indicator of how stable an adult you become. Of course that's not everything but without that kind beginning being a well rounded and empathetic person is difficult.
@@xeltanni8999hahaha! Good one. Not funny they've passed but...
I’m sure most aren’t.
@@xeltanni8999 sometimes if we don't laugh, we cry. 😊😢
I spat my drink when I saw how deep that axe was, that must've required an unimaginable amount of force, just everything you can muster. To imagine that the guy speaking normally enough in the interview would be able to do such a thing, wow
Could you imagine walking in there, sitting down, and having a long conversation, while acting like there's nothing wrong!?
I so enjoy the way you bring humour and yet some sense to serious situations. Btw…I was seventy when I found out that I was adopted and the man who reared me on his own was not my biological father. I’ve never resorted to violence, although I’ve come very close a few times at the football (Rugby League) 😁 Australian police would not take as long to arrest and transport people to the station 🙄
@@maggiealcock5628I don't mean to pry but I'm always interested in adopted tales. If you don't mind me asking, how did it make you feel when you found out? Did it change anything for you?
Holy shit, you weren't kidding.
Seriously wtf. That takes some serious determination. Imagine the sound it made.
I was adopted at birth (3 days old). My parents (the people who adopted me) raised me as absolutely best as they could and told me that I was adopted as soon as I could begin to understand it. Despite my parents holding me as a baby and doing the best they could I inadvertently developed attachment syndrome which was manifested as being rather emotionless. Not mean or cruel, just overall flatly affected.
As a side note our family has a friend who adopted a girl from an orphanage in Siberia. It was reported that the baby girl had never been held and grew up in a crib for the first 4 years of her life. As she grew up in her new American home she would push brother down the stairs and hit sister. Thankfully though the family was able to get her on tract and she is now getting her master's degree from Miami of Ohio!
Infant adoption is a horrible thing for a human to go through.
@@yosemite735 Yes but it was better than being raised in a drug house by addicted parents. (Although interesting enough I also had addiction issues despite my adoptive parents never doing drugs a day in their life)
@@yosemite735it is way better than abortion!!! I know these orphanages are full of children and not enough workers but they have to find a way to make sure these kids get counseling so they don’t turn out that way.
@@yosemite735What do you suggest as an alternative?
@@yosemite735Pardon me?
I was adopted. When I turned 13, there were a bunch of stories in the Enquirer about adoptees killing their parents. My adopted Mom was not that smart. She took me to a psychiatrist, saying she was worried that I was going to kill her. The Dr talked to me for 5 minutes, said I was fine, and told her he wanted to see her twice a week. She died 35 years later of natural causes.
You should be a writer if youre not one
>She died 35 years later of natural causes.
A likely story!! Just kidding, that was a good read. I hope the regular visits helped her to live a good life with you :) I'd love to adopt or foster at some point in the future when my son's a bit older, I know I couldn't handle it right now on top of everything else though.
So that’s what they are calling it now a days? “Natural causes” hmmm
“Natural causes”
@@renegade-master29so the ‘smart thing’, - is for every adoptive parent to one day take the kid to a psychiatrist? Just in case? Incredible thinking that, on so many paranoid, logistical and spurious levels.
Boy you sure hit the nail on the head about the impact of social media on our society today.
As a teenager I didn’t have the luxury to not think about the consequences of my actions on even things in my far future, like possible future work. Not saying that I didn’t do anything stupid, but whatever I did was far from killing anyone. While regular teens do stupid stuff all the time, I don’t believe that they’re not mature enough to know that killing someone has consequences… this kid clearly has other issues.
I don’t think anyone is insinuating, the issue with this kid, is “Age-Related.” There is clearly something very wrong with a kid who kills his mom, like this, and then the interview that follows, where he has zero emotion. This isn’t natural behaviour, period.
Wasn’t this dude adopted
I literally just said the same thing with his emphasis on "boys brains." It always seems as if boys are excused more, as if there's no difference btwn right from wrong as a "teen." Cmon. Like you said kids do dumb things but killing, that's not an "immature" mistake, from any sex imo
Facts, my daughter's 4 and I'm pretty sure she knows killing people is not acceptable. Ants are a different story, we wont talk about it lol.
no offense but most tik tok users are teenagers so I agree with Bruce, they do not think of their future self in no shape or form
Beard certified criminal defense lawyer.
Happy 1 million man, I’ll be waiting for that subscriber party in Vegas now that you guys have a million.
Well deserved. We appreciate you
I was born in Lima Peru and was given an adoption by my Mom when I was a baby. I definitely did and am still working through my attachment & identity issues/disorder as a grown woman. It’s definitely crippling and hurts every fiber of your being but with the right supports and self love you can believe that YOU on your own is lovable and belong! May his mother RIP, all she wanted was to love her baby and bring him here for a better life
I was never adopted but I was in Foster Care and a Group Home from January 97 to August 2001 and it was pretty damn tough for me too as 2 of the homes I was in Mistreated me but still I never even thought of killing them so this idiot has no excuse for what he did...I know all about Mental Issues as I'm still going thru them and probably always will but I hope u are some day soon able to escape the shadows that envelop U..also you're a cutie
If you let something happen to you as a child affect you this much as an adult you’re just a weak person who cares who your mother is a who you came from you get to decide who you are now if you’re wining about it it’s just a crutch
If you let something happen to you as a child affect you this much as an adult you’re just a weak person who cares who your mother is a who you came from you get to decide who you are now if you’re wining about it it’s just a crutch
Wow, check out your judgmental attitude, you know nothing about this person's life and what they've been through. @@Utriedit215
@@Utriedit215 - Wow…who is the sociopath now! Geez…🙄😳😒
It is pretty much impossible to describe the intensity of a parent’s love for their child to someone who hasn’t felt it but you, Bruce, do a good job of it.
It will never cease to amaze me how many of these people actually think they committed the perfect crime. You’ll always get caught: don’t do the big bad thing.
Not everyone gets caught. Actually most are never solved u just don’t see them on UA-cam because it’s not as entertaining
Lol You need to look into how many cases never get solved. “You’ll always get caught” is just blatantly false
@@cherrelleg8276I wouldn't say most, but Many are unsolved.
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No, not most.
Some.
Idiots get caught, people who love cellphones get caught.
I think we can all quite easily agree with the detective's assessment/diagnosis. Kid didn't show a single iota of emotion until the detective put forth a subtle accusation... to which he very suddenly seemed 10 times more bothered by being labeled a sociopath than the fact that his mother was found with her head damn near cleaved in two by an axe.
It's called dissociation and is a survival tactic employed by abused children.
A true sociopath trying to get away with this would be bawling their eyes out for the purpose of performing the role of Victim
The truth hurts.
@@elizabethstafford5773 Truth is neither good nor bad, it just is. Our belief persistence in the presence of evidence to the contrary is what hurts us.
Then again, we have no control over the circumstances that leads to the degree of our belief persistence
Also someone with ASPD would be unlikely to get visibly angry in this scenario, that would more likely of narcissism. Callousness / reduced affect are symptoms of multiple disorders
@@TheKrispyfortYep. But if you're lucky enough or self educate, you can learn to view yourself and your own biases objectively and make changes over time. Just have to strengthen critical thinking skills and objective reasoning and recognize feelings are real but don't often comport with reality. Might hate a thing but that thing might be objectively harmless so even if you feel a way, if you understand it's a bias you can change your behaviors and over time your feelings can catch up. But we need more people to have easy access to such knowledge in the first place. Too few seem to understand such basic things.
I saw this need for his brain to mature happen with my own nephew. He finally grew up around 27 years old but had two felony strikes by then. He’s not been in trouble (legal trouble) in the 20 years since then. He grew up without coping skills that he didn’t develop for a long time. Our young men need more help than they get, really.
It's backed up by extensive research using MRIs. The area responsible for understanding consequences is fully developed at roughly 24.5 years.
Yeah man a lot of who we are in our early years is purely socioeconomic conditions pressing down on us. A lot of people who others define as criminals are very regretful and did not fully understand the weight of their actions. This is why most criminals are so young.
For all the talk from conservative powerful people, who believe that raising children is so important, in a society that claims to love and protect children, we really fall short on the care of these children. In addition. , some of these rich folks could do more to help.
And we also need to
Overhaul pur child protection services ( Department of Children and family services, or wjatever they are called.
People under 25 hate when you talk about this because they think that it means you are belittling them. I was already married, bought my home, and had decent jobs by then. But you know what? I still wasn't the same mature that I am now in my late 30s. Sure at 23 for example I was way more mature and understood things better than I did at 18 but I wasn't 100% there yet. The way I've told people it felt was that at about 25 I woke up one day and a lot of stuff made sense. And then at about 30 I knew how to use that stuff that made sense in my life because I had time to actually practice using my brain to think completely.
But then about 35 I really understood more and gave up (this is partially a joke, mostly covid related)
It's because they don't have positive male role models in their lives. They can do their best, but a woman can't raise a man. I know most think that's not true, and I know there are plenty of examples, but that's part of the problem. If the words "wait until your father hears about this" doesn't strike fear in a boy's head, the father is to blame.
As usual very good insight from Counselor Rivers. Thanks for always pointing out what's missing in certain individuals and reaffirming the humanity in the rest of us.
I love that Bruce is so unapologetically himself, and his personality is the type that I get along with pretty easily so this channel is always so refreshing and entertaining to watch.
I’d love to see him in action in a court of law…he has absolutely no filter, raw all the way to the bone-absolutely human, the best! It would be reaaallly hard to reel that back in, on a “professional” level, so to speak (only cuz they have to for the courts and all 😏)…but somehow I’m sure he manages, would not be easy though! 😂he’s just so GD free and raw, unfiltered to the Nth degree…the way every human being should be, people would feel so much better about things…just telling the truth!
I agree 💯
agreed. He makes me want to be a lawyer. I wonder if he's ever been held in contempt or warned by a judge, possibly for even laughing?@@LiLHarOak
I have a friend who had adopted many foster children along with her regular family. Total 11. Husband owned an engineering company so wasn't about money. She adopted another child (adopted) from a couple from their church....Oh my goodness. This young girl had DETACHMENT DISORDER. Within a year (despite counseling, private bedroom (for safety etc), and a lot of intervention, this little girl became more and more dangerous behavior hiding knives, coffee pot, and tools in her bedroom. There was more that wasn't shared with me. But the family didnt feel safe. The parents petitioned the courts to cancel the adoption and the child was surrendered back to the state. She has been institutionalized since.😢 That ax picture was horrid.
PS Sorry if this triggered people. There are many varibles. Im certain that foster personalities like these: drug abuse and pre-existing mental health issues in the parents as well as environmental sutuations, the parent's histories/the legacy that gets passed down for generations.
They let people know she was institutionalized?
It was about money. They had money, so they could afford to do this.
*Reactive Attachment Disorder.
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@@Chic_Ken You are embarrassing yourself.
Literally makes my day when I see you posted a video! You and Michael(content genius of course), are doing a great job! Keep doing what you’re doing💯
Yes..too bad these cases are so very sad or sick. Or both.
@@catmansmathey can be sick and sad, but it's reality....unfortunately. IMO be specific to which ones you view. Just saying
Bruce i really respect how much you fully support your son... my father worked his ass off to support our family an i will always be extremely grateful for rasing me to respect my elders he just wasn't the kind of father that gave compliments an never told me he loved me...i know he loves be but it would have been nice to hear your son is a lucky man to have you as a father
"What was in that pie?"
That literally killed me 😂
Apparently not enough of Village Inn's "good feelings"!
It's so cringey hearing these weird0s overuse (incorrectly) the word "literally."
His disconnect is actually painful and shows how messed up he is. Sad.The lawyer sees the irony but the fact that this kid doesn't is just so disturbing.
“I don’t think the system is racist I just think the system hates people.” -Tom McDonald
When my mom passed away on a blood clot that gave her a heart attack, and I found out, I couldn’t cry, we had not talked for three years and then I’m about two or three months I believe it was right before she passed away we kind of started talking again And then I had to fly from Virginia to Colorado and I didn’t make it before she did pass away. I think I cried for like a minute or two and then I didn’t cry at the wake for the get together we had after work and I didn’t speak to anybody for three years, unless it was an emergency, or I had no other choice but to open my mouth to someone, my mother was very abusive to me. I love my mother because she was my mother, but I hated her with every ounce of empathy and me there was a man absolutely nothing I wish there was, but there was none. Now my grandmother Was my father‘s mother when she passed away that about killed me because I believe my mother was schizophrenic or just plain psychotic and so my grandmother raised me she was my mother my mom is my mom, so I can very well see why he had no empathy for what he did It’s horrible that he couldn’t feel anything when he did what he did not even enough to shed one tear however, all we see you on the phrase is it just what is shown in the interrogation room and what’s been told about the murder and what does Lawyer have to say about the situation, we truly do not know what has happened to that kid except for the fact that she adopted him and we all have to assume that she loved him because we have to take the situation at face value but unless it is specifically said, we absolutely don’t know if that woman beat the hell out of him each and every day and unfortunately unless you’re in that situation or whatever situation he lived with her and you were specifically there throughout his life then the only thing you were going to see in here is what he did to his mother, which sucks because I would’ve liked to of known the overall situation just besides the fact that she and then he killed her
Maybe she adopted him to add another possession to her collection and fulfill her messianic fantasies.
I hope the mother rest in peace
Why would a child comprehend the irony of their behavior? Complex thoughts are usually a trait developed after the prefrontal cortex is developed, which doesn’t happen until after adolescence
This was a really sad case. Imagine from her perspective in the years leading up to her death… she must have been noticing strange antisocial behavior from him and getting progressively more scared of him and desperate in her situation. To fear your child, whom you undoubtedly also love, just horrible.
And if somehow Bruce reads this, I appreciate your sense of humor and how you balance it with empathy in your videos. You have such a fresh perspective compared to a lot of other true crime content (which I also enjoy), and it’s interesting to hear about cases from your view.
Rest in peace to the poor mom 💔
Wonder if it was the antidepressants?? Some people can have a bad reaction to them.
Yea, Bruce is very rational and smart. Like he said, "if he broke my arm? Oh you're going to a fucking home. A juvenile facility. See ya later." Id have pressed charges for breaking my arm and had him committed until he was 18 or sent to one of those highly abusive work camps they sent paris hilton to. 😂 out of love, of course.
@@Janellabelle Right.. acting like the child is a dog that he can just return to the shelter he came from. Then they wonder why these kids end up with such anger towards the people who raised them.
You’re a great father! I have a special relationship with my two boys(10 & 13) where they are able to speak to me like pals, though they understand that when it’s time to work especially on their schoolwork, dad becomes serious. Your relationship with Michael encourages me to keep going because I’d like that at 26 like him, they should be able to spend time with me and not feel like we can’t relate at any level! I had a strict vertical relationship with my father, and when he turned 60(I was 30 at the time), we had very little in common, we never argued or anything because I was still scared of him, but I never knew what to say to him. He got really hurt on many occasions because he had to hear a lot about me from my mother, eg that I bought myself a car, that I met someone etc etc, but it was hard for me because I was not used to discussing stuff with him like that. We did make progress but it was tough. I’m learning from you BR and MR!!!
Im a 66yr old male , l had a very bad childhood, my father knifed my mother twice , threatened one of my sisters with a rife, hit me at the back of my head with a lump of wood ,l need 20 stitches and mum pleading for not to call the police. When l turned 17 and a ha,f l joined the Navy to get away. I had many thoughts of killing my father but never did. What this evil boy did with a axe and the force he did it with is just mind blowing. That evil little lowlife.
Wow...I'm so sorry to read all that you suffered...❤
I am so sorry about your childhood. I hope that you are doing okay now.
@@janetdobie9722 Thank you 😊 lm living on 5 acres in the middle of the beautiful Australian bush with lots of animals, finding peace. I'm a local fireman now. Xxxx
@elizabethmchenry3102 Thank you 😊 🙏 lm living on 5 acres now with lots of wild animals. Also a local fireman now. Xxxx
No good deed goes unpunished
I am always impressed when Attorney Rivers turns to the cameras and directs younger people to be aware of life changing decisions. Possibly Producer Rivers should make an old school reel with Bruce Rivers top five “Don’t fuck up your life - teenager edition”! Of course, a “No Self Snitching” Prolog!
The scariest part of this was when I realized what the picture was. I originally thought it was a skull with a portion blurred out so we couldn’t see the damage. I can’t tell you how long I stared before realizing it’s an X-ray and the big “blurred” portion is actually the axe. Truly terrifying! I don’t want to imagine what she looked like physically.
I thought the same thing.
I thought that too!
I stared at it too, now I’m going to watch it again.. thanks!!
I just watched it again and thanks to you,I saw it right away. Wow and wow. smh.
Extremely bloody scene !🧠🧠🩸🩸
Every time I think you have outdone yourself with your sense of humor, you go and kick it up another notch in your next video. Sir, you are freaking hilarious. Thank you so much for putting a smile on my face. I suffer from depression, and watching your videos helps a ton.
I grew up the daughter of an attorney. There was no getting anything by him. I would be interrogated until I admitted fault. The only advantage of this was a knowledge at a very young age, that I really couldn’t get away with being an idiot. It is idiotic to believe you can get away with murder ever. This seems obvious, but I guess not to everyone.
Well let’s see how Ynw melly goes next month.
Kilary and Obama seemed to get away with a lot
Adam 32 the real criminal, trump, will be going to prison.
@@Adam32777 Yeah, but Trump is so narcissistic and stupid he thinks he can get away with anything...even stealing top secret intelligence reports to sell to the leaders of North Korea and Russia, his autocratic buddies. Thank goodness Barron's intelligence will come from his mother's X chromosome.
51percent of murders go unsolved.....
This case has MUCH MUCH MUCH more than what we hear in this interrogation! I just listened to EWU Crime Storytime on this. There’s SO much to this story. I mean, yikes. And there’s even a little brother who was also later adopted from Guatemala and was either problematic himself or was abused by Denise to lead to problems. There was mention of neighbors having pets chopped in half. Just a bad bad situation all the way around, with some points of okayness sprinkled in.
# Ewu crew
Yikes!
There was no hint to abuse in this case.
Lease note that this son was already 4 years old when adopted. We don’t even know what happened during his crucial time of his formative years.
@@Celisar1 theyre referencing the mother locking them in bare rooms all day, which is questionable parenting at best when your kid is acting insane. Unless she never took him to a shrink, he was not abused or neglected
Attachment disorder is a terrible thing to witness. My husband and I were in the foster system to adopt because we were not able to have our own kids. One of the babies we had in our care was 2 1/2 and we were her 8 time she had been bounced around and she had attachment disorder terribly. Is was awful to see the impact it had on her. She was in a world of her own and there was no getting through to her. Unfortunately the system would not give us the help we needed to deal with her issues and we could not handle her. It was so very heartbreaking all the way around 😢
As sad as this is! I’m glad you didn’t put yourself in a situation you couldn’t handle! We need help in the system!
I feel like I didn't become a real person until 30. Like I'd fast-forwarded through my 20s cuz there wasn't much to see, and there really wasn't.
Aging does some people wonders. It did for me.
That's a huge disassociative disorder. Similar things are seen in kids born and raised in refugee camps
This is why the anti-abortion nut job stance sucks so much. None of the anti-abortion nuts give two shits about the kids after they are born.
@@vibratinggoddess1111exactly ❤
Thank you Michael for all your hard work and of course Bruce! Great video guys!!
A friends daughter adopted 2 boys ages 8 and 6.She had a lengthy introduction time with them. After adoption the older one became difficult to handle. She found out later his birth parents had abused him. As a teen among many other problems he threatened to kill her. He was in and out of trouble in juvenile court. She tried finally to relinquish rights of him but was told she couldn't. The adoption agency lied to them by with holding information that may have changed their mind about the adoption. The younger one had learning disabilities and was beginning to take up the older child's bad behaviors ( lying, petty theft, bad attitude ).It was such a sad mess.
I know it's been a few months, but got any updates?
Damn a really similar thing happened to my family when I was younger. Had two foster siblings and the sheet with all the older boy’s diagnoses was “accidentally left out” of the information my parents received about him.
I mean to not want to adopt a kid because he was abused is kind of sh*tty. Doesn't seem like the behavior of a loving parent, so maybe all of the blame shouldn't be on the former parents.
@@QnzColdest it’s an all around sh*tty situation absolutely. And it’s absolutely to blame on the former parents. It’s not the kids fault but that doesn’t mean you should put your life at risk. They need professional help, if you are not equipped to help them then they need someone who can. A bio child with dangerous behavior would also need to be placed in a residential treatment facility. It’s horrible all around for everyone involved
@@humansizedbirdnest9435it's one reason why a lot of parents want to adopt newborns, so that they are not yet missed up. I've also been reading when agencies do try to place an older kid (don't know OPs friend situation) they try to put them with the same race of the adopted parents, and if a single woman or single man tries to adapt they try to place a same sex teen/child. That way they could connect better. A good agency or adaption judge will also grant a trial period, to see if both adult and child connect.
If this kid had a trial period with an adult male of color, some one he could throw a football with, there is a lot better chance he would have felt appreciated in love.
Wow! This story is just heartbreaking. She literally adopted her murderer.
Yes so painful to see l feel sad for her
A good example of why the United States needs to stop allowing these illegals into the country. She should have adopted an American baby.
Yah and some people also gave birth to their own killer, and some even get married to their own killer. what's your point ?
@@gonderAmhthe point was it’s sad. Triggered much?
Not even just that, some people are their own ender. We are very flawed. Life is not easy.
As an adopted child myself... I don't think we attach like other people do, no matter how good the family is. Not necessarily to the point of psychopathy, but I notice we can withstand really difficult situations without reacting emotionally as well as tending to cut off relationships that aren't working for us. Not generally with an axe, though.
Your last sentence made me laugh. Please take my like.
bet you hold your parents race against them.
@@scrotuspotus6632this sounds like self hating projection.
I'm adopted and can tell you that my adopted parents are my real parents. End of story.
@@VeredBen-Avraham-nh9eu that has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.
The reason this young man doesn't have a lawyer after 9 weeks is because the very person that would make sure he had one he unalived.😔😔😔
No one in the history of ever , who was even remotely normal ,would come upon a murder victim killed by another and say to themselves:"Oh no! A dead person! ! I'd better chop them up/throw away their stuff/ set fire to their house so no one thinks I had anything to do with it!". And yet, "I panicked, and...." is a classic.
It's so much more fun to watch this interrogation a second time with your commentary! It's terrible, but I laughed all through this thing. I am a bad, bad person.
People panic
@JDogggg69 people dont normally panic to the point of chopping up a random dead body they came across & had nothing to do with originally and burning the house down in order to ensure they arent assumed a suspect, lol
@@JDogggg69lol
The fact that this dummy thought he’d get away with putting an axe in the back of his own mothers head, after he broke her arm and created absolute chaos in her home, is just beyond. New sub here! Gonna go binge now :)
Oh my gosh you're in for a treat! All kinds of different cases you'll see, and Bruce is SO damn likeable. He's got a great sense of humor and has tons of professional experience and life experience. I learn sounding everytime I watch and I laugh everytime I watch. Have fun binging!! 💯
His adoptive mom…don’t forget
@@dapplegray6577 touché 😭
"Teens don't understand consequences" That depends on how they were raised. My dad drilled the concept of consequences into my head starting when I was like 8 or 9. I had a solid grasp on consequences when I was a teenager. That kept me out of so much trouble that my friends got into.
I'm 62 and my dad did the same.He was a really good man.He let all of 4 kids know that all your actions have consequences. And he always said unaliving is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
Did you dad beat you and your mom then leave you without important life lessons? Did he die right after he got out of prison?
@@sqredreaperwhy would you ask these questions? If you are asking because this happened to you I’m very sorry that happened. I believe that most adults need some sort of counseling. There is nothing wrong with looking to someone for help or direction in our lives.
You walked to school uphill 10 miles both ways in snow too huh? 😂
@@sqredreaper
1: Me yes(when I was older, started at around 15), my mom no
2: Nope didn't leave or go to prison.
I've seen some horrific things in my life but that XRAY dropped my jaw wide open. The force needed to accomplish that depth is incredible.
Reminds me of that scene in The Shining where Jack has to stick out his tongue a bit from the full force of striking Mr. Halloran with an axe. Fuck. That was just a movie and I can't unsee that.
My mom was verbally abusive and there was no having a conversation with her to work things out, but i never ever contemplated putting an ax thru her head. Not even a fantasy of it. This kid is sick. Thanks for making me laugh thru thus horrible thing, Bruce and Content Genius. Love you guys!
Yeah, this kid definitely had an axe to grind in his mother
Me too. I was in a very abusive foster home for years. It never occurred to me that murder could be an option.
Lot of people are sick and barely holding on. Have you tried to get mental help without insurance?
It is different with kids who were actually physically abused. Verbal abuse is bad, but it crosses a whole different line if your mom actually put hands on you. If what he alleged was true(with the physical abuse and stuff) I could understand him. I mean, I had a pal who was raped multiple times by his grandfather as a kid and the family stood behind the pedophile and accused him of making stuff up. He then made plans to kill his entire family which was found and he got institutionalized for a while. He doesn't feel as homicidal nowadays but I don't blame him for wanting to kill his family. One thing you people forget when you call someone the devil is that sometimes their life is just hell. Hell that you could never imagine without having been there.
Same here. Mine was so overwhelmed by anxiety that everything was a catastrophe and she could go from zero to a hundred in no time flat. Talking was not going to happen; nothing was ever truly solved.
I never thought of killing her either. If I was going to kill anyone, it was going to be myself. This was 50 years ago, but I still remember how I felt at the time.
Bruce, you crack me up big time!
“Sorry we offended you, please, be on your way. Here’s your axe.”
Bruce is killing me laughing. He has this wonderful mixture of sympathy towards victims and harshness towards bullies. Yet at the same time wants to defend people. As he always says it has be proven beyond reasonable doubt. I was sexually assaulted and worried myself sick for a year, the old creeps excuse was ‘ I was looking for a lighter.’ The defence was speechless. I was asleep on my couch fully clothed with a blanket on top of me. They found his DNA and if I had not woken up it could have been much worse. Found out later he preyed on people. I find Bruce easier to understand than the people supporting me. They were so harsh, it was awful. Anyway he lost, 5 years in a UK prison, means he served half. However I get why Bruce does it I wonder though how tough it is knowing a rapist or chmo might be back on the streets. ❤❤❤❤
Bruce I'm unaware of your skill as a lawyer but you sound like a wonderful father and from my perspective that makes you a winner.
I know he's young but i can't help but call him UNGRATEFUL!! She gave him a life he would never have had. Those pics are heartbreaking.
I'm a happily married woman in my late-40s, and I gotta say - I'm loving the hell out of the beard. Not every guy can pull it off, but Bruce's got that whole silver fox thing going on, and I'm here for it. 🤘😎
I am older than both of you, and I'm in!😊😊 (Have a good evening)!
Very handsome!!
I'm a happily married woman in my early 30s and I agree!
I’m in my 20s and as the youngest here; I am also loving the silver fox look 🤩
LOL I'm in my mid 50's and happily married. I told my husband how handsome Bruse looks with that beard. Grow one, babe, please 😅
Wow, this one really touched me. Your explanation of adoptive children (although many are successfully adopted), your humor and empathy combined in such a way. Very emotional, very moving. Thank you for the great content.
Bruce and Michael, thank you for all of your hard work in bringing us these cases and content.
This makes me so thankful for my daughter, who is a very kind, caring, compassionate and very creative person. I tell her that she's a blessing to me all the time, and I know that you feel the same way about your genius content creator son, Michael Rivers. We have to count our blessings in this world. I'm sure that you're as proud of your son as I am of my daughter.
Same here my daughter(my only child so far) is 18 and she's always been a good girl..she got in trouble from time to time but not near as much as me or her grandparents on my side...I used to get my ass whipped by my grandma(my mom's mom) who raised me(along with my aunt, my dad's sister)from a baby until I was as both my mom and dad ended up in prison within the first 10 months of my life but anyway I got my ass whipped as a kid and I always told myself I'd never do that to my kids and while I've popped her for being bad she's never done anything that would warrant an ass whipping even if I was like my grandma..I'm yapping but my point is I got lucky like u to have a daughter who's inherently good thru and thru
I am so glad to be child free.
Nature or nuture?
I’m convinced nuture.
@@zhontac6194I’m glad you’re child free too 👌
@@zhontac6194 Because hating children and bragging about it is normal human behavior.
You are spot-on in your analysis of teenagers. I'm falling around laughing at your funny comments during his questioning. I also love your little anecdotal comparison stories. Thanks for great video.
The beauty of a narcissist is that they can't stop talking.
You know one reason I subbed to Bruce is not just great content and delivery, but the man is honest enough to curse just like I do. Studies have shown that it DOES point to honesty. 😊
Most parents, even in tough times, have nothing but unconditional love for their kids. And they will always be those same old kids, regardless of age. Situations like this are horrible. Poor woman must have felt extreme grief as this relationship got worse and worse.
I really enjoy watching your reactions. Knowing that they are terrible situations ; yet you have such comedic and smart answers. You keep it interesting.
You either have to laugh or cry. If I cried I couldn’t even watch.
"I'll give my life for him, but not in this way!" Just have to appreciate the CLR's sense of humour. It is so interesting to watch. Thank you, Mr Rivers.
You're closing words about this was a message to anyone watching. No problems are that severe that you can't resolve it with words.. Such wisdom for those listening
Bruce, you videos have been such a comfort for me lately! I’ve been going through a lot of life changes (good and bad) and the consistency of your content has been so nice to have during these turbulent times. Congrats to you and Michael on 1 million, keep up the great videos !! :)
I agree. I feel like he’s become my friend 😂❤
Asking the child to
Leave isn’t just for the safety of the adult, but to protect the child from his own impulsivity and to try to get him help before he ends up in justice system. It’s also a realistic consequence and boundary setting
Once again, kudos to Bruce and Michael. Your values, humour, and humility shine through. Absolute top of YT content imo. Thank you ✌🏻
I always thought it was of the upmost importance to somehow teach my children empathy. With my son , he shot a lizard with his BB gun and I sat down with him and asked him if he thought maybe it’s parents or brother or sister were waiting for it to come home and play. And it would never get to go home and play. He began to try to awaken it and felt bad. With my daughter she loved to catch frogs. And I told her make sure not to hurt them and put them back so they could go back home and play. They both learned empathy. Whether it is just part of their character or taught to them I can only guess. But I get the feeling this boy was never denied until the time he broke her arm. But who knows. I did read an article a few years back that questioned if psychopaths and sociopaths were born that way or made that way. I tend to think it’s somewhat both. This young man was probably doted on and bragged on a lot as a child.
The way to can "spin humor " in grim moments is quite masterful.Thank you for lessons of the law and the smiles on my face.Very much appreciated.
Any day that Bruce drops a video analysis is a good day. Thank you CLR and Michael. ❤
the second he starts getting mad you can tell the rage and aggression is in him. its only held back because theyre cops, but even then its barely below the surface. frightening the impact neglect and abuse has on people.
And grown men where he was used to beating his mom .
Just started watching this channel, and im obsessed. I'm almost binged watch all episodes. Love this
I really appreciate your message to teens. It's nice to have that after such a sad story
My husband has had a beard on and off for decades. When our youngest was a toddler, he shaved it off after having it for about a year. Youngest walked up to him, placed her hands on his face, and said, “I’m so happy, Daddy! Now I can see your cheeks!”
We still say that now every time he shaves off the beard, and that was like sixteen years ago now. ❤
Towards the beginning of the pandemic, my dad shaved his beard because he’s an infectious disease specialist and it was recommended he shave to better fit his mask over his face. I found this change a bit unnerving because he’s had a beard all my life
KEEP THE BEARD BRUCE! I DON’T LIKE FACIAL HAIR BUT YOU LOOK HOT!
@@starspangledsquirrelM Right? That's one manly beard!
@@resplndnt The sad thing is, he's shaved and re-grown it so many times now that I barely notice! Lol, I'm just so used to seeing him both with and without it (and these days he goes back and forth pretty quickly, though as the weather starts cooling he'll probably grow and keep it until spring), it usually isn't until he kisses me that I realize there's no more beard but there was one that morning! Which, now that I think of it, is rather unnerving for me, too. It makes me feel bad that I didn't notice immediately.
(In my defense, the beard is silvery these days, he keeps it pretty short, and he's fairly pale. Also in my defense, we've been married over 23 years and are very happy; it's just that I look into his eyes, not at his jaw!)
@@dqverify6797 wow! 23 years is amazing! You guys obviously are a great team! I just started a business and would love to send Bruce a business related gift, how would I go about doing that? I’ll put something in for you too!
I tell you what, I love your content. I work a job that allows me to listen to my headphones all day and when I take a break from music I come here and enjoy listening to you explain all these self snitchers' actions and the laws behind the scenes. I love that with each video you show you care about the person(s) involved (officers, civilians, alleged criminals) and you give them empathy, either for the person(s) committing the alleged crime(s) or for the lawyer(s) having to deal with their cases. Either way, you do an excellent job and I like your taste in blended scotches/whisky s that you showed while biking across Alaska, Canada, and the northern United States states. Thank you for your content.
Really enjoy these video
And this criminal defense lawyer has an amazing personality, open minded and understanding. Thank you for these videos!!
The ax was almost completely through her head! Many don't ever stop to think about what all those involved in the justice system have to see along with healthcare professionals and those that have the horrific task of cleaning up afterwards. I don't know how anyone deals with that and would think if you didn't find a way to have a sense of humor about it you might eventually not be able to deal with it anymore. Which is exactly what happens to our combat veterans.
@@tradez5799but how does this affect your world view? Like your town? And other people you meet? I’ve been curious on this, so please a thoughtful answer.
@@TheAntonioclewisI'm curious about this as well
@@TheAntonioclewis You stop pearl-clutching over every dead moron you hear about.
@TheAntonioclewis "but how does this affect your world view? Like your town? And other people you meet?" ...
...view on what exactly?
Seems like a pretty vague question.
I love how Bruce sums it all up when he sees that the kid was sharpening the ax! 😂 Working with the public is very hard..I truly appreciate Bruce’s sense of humor!
Love can only work if both people involved can actually feel the emotion.
Could listen to you all day.. I found you a few days ago. Love your humor and personality.
We've told our sons - 20 and 9 yrs old - that if they EVER find themselves in police custody or being questioned, to just shut their pie holes and wait for us or an attorney. Period. Full stop. Even if they know they did absolutely nothing wrong, they are to not say a word. They are to exercise their RIGHT to remain silent. The truth will come out- good or bad- eventually.
Not me. I don't have my kid's back if they've committed murder.
@@canwoop you know people get falsely accused of things constantly right
@@canwoopWho said anything about committing murder 😂 she just said if they are ever in police custody. People get questioned by the police for anything & everything. Maybe their teenager is hanging out at a party a few years from now, minding their own business, when another kid falls off the roof or drowns in the pool. You best believe the police are questioning every damn kid at that party. And this parent is 100% correct- it doesn’t matter if you were across the street when it happened, or if you’ve never even met the other kid- wait to answer any questions until you have a lawyer or parent present. It’s always, always in your best interest to enact that right.
The only issue is that they need to vocally announce that they are claiming their fifth Ammendment protections before remaining silent or they can be held and charged for obstruction otherwise. Courts have ruled on this many times unfortunately.
Do not tell them to ask for you. They don't have a constitutional right to have you present. They DO have a constitutional right to have an attorney present. The phrase I would suggest (as a non-lawyer, so not legal advice) is "I will not answer any questions without an attorney here. Get me an attorney immediately." The wording is important. If they say something like "I think I want an attorney" that is NOT a demand for an attorney, it's an expression of their mental state at the time. They have to actually demand an attorney. So "I will not answer any questions without an attorney. Get me an attorney immediately." takes away any argument that it wasn't a demand or that the invocation of rights was ambiguous. And they have to stand by that. The cops can't continue questioning them after that point, but if they start talking to the cops, then the cops can start questioning again in some circumstances.
Bruce: "there's no problem that can be solved with an axe that can't be solved with words"
me: *standing outside having a serious conversation with my logs that refuse to split themselves*
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I worked at a place called Kidspeace in Pennsylvania. It unfortunately was a place where kids with behavioral issues,SA issues and mental disabilities lived. I realize that there were people who were sociopaths and antisocial, etc. I never thought I would meet a six year old who had no feelings and poured hot water over his newborn brother because he was jealous. This kid also had some really bad behaviors. Not just a focus on him but this kid reminds me of some of the kids that I was a nurse too. It is so sad. I hope he gets help.
Sounds like Reactive Attachment Disorder. You can see this disorder in an actual brain scan.
Your post took my breath away and momentarily stopped my heart! OMG! I hope that child got help! Lots of help!
And quite frankly, I couldn’t work there because I would be in constant shock daily!
Watching you save in my bed here in Christchurch new Zealand,you are my favourite channel now, love the witty comments from you and the videos are great watching ..keep up the great work 😊😊
“There’s no problem that can be solved with violence that can’t be solved with words and love” Amen, Bruce 🙏
This is why I love your content and watch you any time you upload a new video. Props to Michael, your content creator genius too! 👏
“I love Michael. I would give my life for him. Well not like that, but you know. I love him to death. Well maybe I shouldn’t say to death.” (Paraphrasing) That just sent me baahahahahaa! 🤣🤣
Bruce, have a request! There is an interrogation of a kid who was shot in the eye by, I believe, his girlfriend’s brother and father who tried to break into the house. The kid has a huge black eye from being shot, but I guess it obstructs the source of the injury, so the cop doesn’t believe him and essentially tortures the kid for an hour telling him he’s not going anywhere. The kid keeps saying that he just wants to go to sleep and he’s trying to tell the cop that he’s been shot, but the cop doesn’t believe him and is questioning him as a suspect. The kid ended up going to the hospital and had an infection and permanent brain damage because of the delay, and ultimately died of a seizure in 2016. I’ve heard that the detective went to prison for three years, but can’t confirm. Would love to hear your legal take on the detective’s decisions and behavior. Thanks for all the great content!
I remember seeing that interview. He was clearly in need of medical help. Poor young man.
Yes! Great video for a reaction!
Such a sad case. 😢 But it is fascinating interrogation.
The Ryan Waller Case:
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That sounds way too distressing
Bruce's sense of humor is vicious!😂 I laughed and felt guilty about it...😢
I watch this man as much as I can I learn some new things all the time,,glad he and his genius son does these vidoes
You and your son are the best! Love ALL THE CRAZY stuff you guys cover! I always learn so much from you!
"Fuck! I should never have adopted that kid." - Bruce Rivers CLR... I love it.
She spent 13 very unlucky years with this monster
BRUCE RIVERS TALKING ABOUT ATTACHMENT DISORDER 🙌i'm in college for Clinical Social Work and I approve. thank you for bringing that up. Attachment is so important. I do want to add that not all people with attachment disorders are sociopaths. Some just need to learn who they can trust and how to manage their emotions. I keep editing but this stuff is important. There is also conduct disorder in pre teens and teens, which is where they are just wired to disregard rules/laws and other human beings.
This one really had me in stitches, Bruce had some absolute zingers😂
Fantastic video. I’m raising a kid that just turned 18 and Bruce is so seasoned with teens, I couldn’t have agreed more with his commentary. 😂😂😂 Great message too - nothing you can’t solve with words. Love it.
24:12 shit yes. I’m a child abuse survivor. I remember times I felt angry enough to harm the abuser because I was sick of him hitting and kicking me. I’m sure not advocating anything requiring premeditation but..sorry, there are cases where people are truly asking for it.
Edit: congrats on that victory-I hope your client got a light sentence.
Man I was kept in a basement, brainwashed and almost took myself out by the torture from a man who forced his way into our family. My mother didn't give a shit so long as she was taken care of. She kept having kids to men who would then abandon us (and the number kept growing..) I was the eldest and stayed to protect them through hell. I endured p3dophiles, starvation, SEVERE isolation, verbal, emotional, sexual abuse, ALL of it but being physically beaten. And I did have thoughts at that time growing up of being the one who saves my little siblings and 'do the world a favor" but in the end. I cannot protect my family from behind iron bars. There was no reason for that man to do what be did to us. He did not have trauma nor mental illness. He simply preyed on the weak and found my mother desperate with a group of kids behind her. Some people deserve the worst.
One of your best. Appreciate the humour, it is a great example of how it can help you to get through some terrible details. Having you talk so openly and lovingly about your son was a perfect foil for the total lack of anything that this guy showed his poor mother.
Bruce, I do think that children can understand consequences. Every action a child does has either a positive reaction or a negative reaction. It basically comes down to parenting children. It doesn’t matter you’re social economic status, or the marital status of a parent. It basically begins at an early stage with a toddler; using the word “no!” is a good beginning. Thanks to you and your son for providing this clip. Stay safe and happy everyone.
I agree with you 100% as far as children understand consequences, and with every action there is a reaction, but to what extent? Children are selfish individuals by nature, it's part of growing; experiences and gaining empathy. I think where they fall short is seeing how their actions affect others. They know they will have consequences, but not necessarily the harm they are doing to everyone else around them.
He didn’t say they don’t understand consequences. He said they don’t understand future consequences.
Like my dog understands the immediate consequences of stealing all the food from the kibble bag (I get mad). She doesn’t understand potential future consequences (no food for tomorrow because it’s ordered online). Same with teenagers and drunk driving. Current consequences of being caught are deemed acceptable(parents get mad/cops get called) vs potential future outcome (losing license/manslaughter charges/severe disability) are not considered or dismissed immediately as a possibility.
Or some kids know about future consequences, they just don't care enough at times