@@pedrofmc0000 so you are saying the Australian helicopter accidents were caused by them not maintaining them properly and them missing parts??🤔 Well that is clearly an Australian army problem then🤷♂️ Any actual links to your claim?
Australia has proven that it does not know how to maintain modern units, whether helicopters, airplanes or ships. The MHR-90 are much better helicopters than the Black Hawk, much more modern, with state-of-the-art avionics and sensors and controlled Fly-by-wire. Next to it, the Black Hawk is a good helicopter but it is on the verge of obsolescence just like the Apache. The Australian press uncovered several scandals related to this issue. New Zealand has them and there is no problem with them. In Europe there are a couple of countries that want to remove them and the same thing happens. They have not carried out correct maintenance and/or have made modifications that have worsened its performance. France, Germany, Italy and Spain use it with very good results in the hardest enviroments (Sahara) and it has features that the BlackHawk can only dream of.
Blackhawk is a good buy, its expensive but its more capable compare to other utility helecopter. Especially in the philippines that always have a strong wind and typhoon, its more powerful that can carry a lot of relief goods to isolated area's in the philippines.
It’s a new variant, plus if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. We got the Taipans and couldn’t keep them flying, so going back to the Blackhawk airframe was a logical choice.
What a joke situation. Having to resort back to the now 50 year old design that these replaced to begin with, and which had several accidents during their first term of service, and paying a tonne for them.
The blackhawk been upgraded and more reliable. Easier to get parts for. Why does it matter if it's based on a 50 year old platform. Australia won't be getting second hand they will be newly buit with the new upgrades. New engine and new avionics Most of the previous accidents in Australia with the blackhawk was a pilots error. Not fault with the actual chopper itself. Parts for the NH90s is a issue. The helicopter grounded longer than it is in service.too many faults in the software also
Its not $2.8B to buy 40 Blackhawks, its up to $2.8B to get 2 Regts of Blackhawk Helicopters to FOC, including Trg, spare parts and a possible move of 2 full Sqns from Townsville to Sydney and or Oakey. We will actually pay the same per ac as the US Army does.
Sorry for australians suffering the difficult early life of this chopper as many other programs and then changing it while things are improving for an old model. Imagine one buy F35 facing well-known problems and then change his mind to buy F16. Make no much sense to me? Too expensive may be?
The Australian army never wanted the taipans in the first place. it was political. decision in the first place. to have one helicopter for army /navy to save money. the navy has also removed theirs from service too. everyone's comments about a 40-year helicopter is not correct either, the Blackhawk has been updates quiet considerably since the original model came out in the late seventies.
So if they wanted a single helicopter type then why didn't they just stick with the blackhawk/Seahawk type that they were already operating?🤔 I do love how everyone is an expert on the matter AFTER the fact🤦♂️ happens everytime...
The government of the day was told that by the army. I don't know why they went against the army's advice. I would say it was money. . I believe the German arm forces are having the same problems with theirs and the Norways navy is having problems with their navy version and have asked for a refund. I read the Germans only have about 40 percent availability of their model.
RIP to the four lives lost...this was the final nail in coffin for the Taipan..the Australian military didn't listen to soldiers it should have gone to blackhawk after other countries had problems with NH90.
@@richardmaxwell3472 Noruega made modifications to implement a sonar and light torpedoes wich weren't in the original design. So, it,s their problem. Sweden also modified the inner Height 20 cm but at the end they will continue with them. Germany is operating with them with no problem along France, Spain and now Italy is buing them despite they make their own model. You talk about something you heard or read and you don't know where it is. Try to find the link that I said. There're further information in diferent media and press (sorry my English).
The UH-60 is a proven platform. Should serve the Australians well.
The last time the Australians used the UH-60; they had several accidents.
@@danieleyre8913pilots error though
@@Nathan-ry3yu So what caused the Australian NH90 accidents? Or any NH90 accident for that matter?
@@regregan6852 poor maintenance and poor spare parts management
@@pedrofmc0000 so you are saying the Australian helicopter accidents were caused by them not maintaining them properly and them missing parts??🤔 Well that is clearly an Australian army problem then🤷♂️ Any actual links to your claim?
Tiger dumped for Apache too
Australia has proven that it does not know how to maintain modern units, whether helicopters, airplanes or ships.
The MHR-90 are much better helicopters than the Black Hawk, much more modern, with state-of-the-art avionics and sensors and controlled Fly-by-wire.
Next to it, the Black Hawk is a good helicopter but it is on the verge of obsolescence just like the Apache. The Australian press uncovered several scandals related to this issue. New Zealand has them and there is no problem with them. In Europe there are a couple of countries that want to remove them and the same thing happens. They have not carried out correct maintenance and/or have made modifications that have worsened its performance. France, Germany, Italy and Spain use it with very good results in the hardest enviroments (Sahara) and it has features that the BlackHawk can only dream of.
Thank God someone who knows what they talking about
The Helicopter is great but it’s obviously pretty expensive to maintain compared to others
Blackhawk is a good buy, its expensive but its more capable compare to other utility helecopter. Especially in the philippines that always have a strong wind and typhoon, its more powerful that can carry a lot of relief goods to isolated area's in the philippines.
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Taipan, Tiger, Seasprite? Anyone else noticing a trend or do we keep making up excuses for Australia?
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Australia need American more than they need Eroupe, especially when facing China military growth.
That's ridiculous price for an old helicopters.
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It’s a new variant, plus if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. We got the Taipans and couldn’t keep them flying, so going back to the Blackhawk airframe was a logical choice.
All being done for money laundering.
$70,000,000 each. I know its the most advanced model, but what the fuck.
What a joke situation. Having to resort back to the now 50 year old design that these replaced to begin with, and which had several accidents during their first term of service, and paying a tonne for them.
The blackhawk been upgraded and more reliable. Easier to get parts for. Why does it matter if it's based on a 50 year old platform. Australia won't be getting second hand they will be newly buit with the new upgrades. New engine and new avionics
Most of the previous accidents in Australia with the blackhawk was a pilots error. Not fault with the actual chopper itself.
Parts for the NH90s is a issue. The helicopter grounded longer than it is in service.too many faults in the software also
For just 40 helis? LOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Its not $2.8B to buy 40 Blackhawks, its up to $2.8B to get 2 Regts of Blackhawk Helicopters to FOC, including Trg, spare parts and a possible move of 2 full Sqns from Townsville to Sydney and or Oakey. We will actually pay the same per ac as the US Army does.
too many buttons on airbus oz dont do buttons
because other choices have been crap
And the V280 Valor?
Sorry for australians suffering the difficult early life of this chopper as many other programs and then changing it while things are improving for an old model.
Imagine one buy F35 facing well-known problems and then change his mind to buy F16. Make no much sense to me? Too expensive may be?
The Australian government is owned by the USA, so they make up use US equipment.
The Australian army never wanted the taipans in the first place. it was political. decision in the first place. to have one helicopter for army /navy to save money. the navy has also removed theirs from service too. everyone's comments about a 40-year helicopter is not correct either, the Blackhawk has been updates quiet considerably since the original model came out in the late seventies.
So if they wanted a single helicopter type then why didn't they just stick with the blackhawk/Seahawk type that they were already operating?🤔 I do love how everyone is an expert on the matter AFTER the fact🤦♂️ happens everytime...
The government of the day was told that by the army. I don't know why they went against the army's advice. I would say it was money. . I believe the German arm forces are having the same problems with theirs and the Norways navy is having problems with their navy version and have asked for a refund. I read the Germans only have about 40 percent availability of their model.
@@andrewbridgen7151 links to that statement from army?
Hello? Anyone??
Noth8jg wrong with Taipan or Tiger, just politics and US dictatorship.
The MRH90 is the aerial version of the Renault.
Your comment is the verbal version of a Lada…
It os a noys own catalogue, Joel is a Chinese spy. I guess I am too, then. Huge US deal on contract, lease Blackhawaks, Apache,Braddekys😢
Why are you yelling?
Yes: very annoying tone of voice!!
RIP to the four lives lost...this was the final nail in coffin for the Taipan..the Australian military didn't listen to soldiers it should have gone to blackhawk after other countries had problems with NH90.
False
@@pedrofmc0000 Please tell me how this is false?
BELGIUM, NORWAY, SWEDEN...AND GERMANY ALL HAD AND HAVE ISSUES WITH THESE AIRFRAMES.
@@richardmaxwell3472 Noruega made modifications to implement a sonar and light torpedoes wich weren't in the original design. So, it,s their problem. Sweden also modified the inner Height 20 cm but at the end they will continue with them.
Germany is operating with them with no problem along France, Spain and now Italy is buing them despite they make their own model. You talk about something you heard or read and you don't know where it is.
Try to find the link that I said. There're further information in diferent media and press (sorry my English).
@@richardmaxwell3472 I wrote the link somewhere in this video page.
The Tiger & Taipan go to the garbage collector. Sikorsky HU-60 Black Hawk is a proven helicopter, no doubt.
Even the Taliban has a few and some can actually fly. If's good for the Taliban then it's good for everyone.