He doesn’t need prep time for them considering that he already studied their weaknesses while they were working together why the hell do you think he dogged on them in most of their fights? Because he doesn’t need prep time for them he works with them and not half the league only like several and I’m pretty sure that’s only Flash and Superman mainly and kryptonite and vibrating bullet worked before
Agree with you 99%. But Superman would wreck Batman even with kryptonite. Superman already knows that Batman has it so Superman would just take him out from orbit.
Yeah this guy doesn't know a fucking thing about Superman it's like you realize Kryptonite doesn't always do that right😂 he's just going off him being a fanboy
People always bring up prep time for how Batman can beat anyone like Spider-Man, thanos, even goku. But the easiest thing to say to that is, in a fight you don’t get prep time, it’s not like a movie where the say “meet me at the back of the school tomorrow” no it’s a random encounter, Batman looses to damn near everyone in a actual battle. If it’s like a high school movie where they plan their fights than sure. But otherwise no he looses to Spider-Man, goku, the hulk damn near everyone.
I hope you realize theses are hypocritical fights that wouldn’t actually happen,It’s the same thing when ppl say “who would win 1000 SpongeBobs or Goku”It’s hypocritical,And ppl bring up prep time because that’s Batman at his best why would you put Batman against someone like HULK AND NOT EVEN GIVE HIM THE ABILITY TO USE HIS GREATEST WEAPON😑
Also he beat the hulk 😂 in a fight in the collab comic so yeahhhhh no your point doesn’t stand and he’d fuck up Spider-Man because Peter struggles with Kingpin 💀 and has lost to him even not holding back and Goku what the hell are you talking about I’ve never heard anyone say some BS like this and if it comes down to an actual fight Batman is a better fighter and he doesn’t have to win with a fight him and Goku would probably just talk or chill because Batman can teach him a lot of fighting moves 😂
@@SpikeyXSTheRedHood Hey man just because I think prep time is fair to use doesn’t mean I want him to hulk lvl,Batman using prep should be demonstrated through his feats and intelligence and the character he is fighting,If Batman was to fight Hulk with prep the only way I could think of is something to calm him down,Other than that Hulk clears,Spider-Man beats Batman without prep pretty easily however it’s closer if Batman has prep and I give it to Batman there,And yes Batman is a better fighter than Goku but not like leagues above him
@@splurgehunter-4866 He didnt use prep time for hulk 💀 it was knockout gas go read the comic it’s fire and I think he fought Spider-Man before they teamed up against Joker and Carnage and Batman beat him
Superman has been shown to be able to take on a KRYPTONITE INFUSED DOOMSDAY. And he’s overpowered metallo as well. Prep time isn’t shit for Batman against Supes anymore. Spider-Man would destroy Batman too.
Batman doesn't kill because he thinks that people should face trial so it's actually the city's fault for not being able to properly execute or hold villain's like the joker
Batman cant even kill superman, the mf is faster than light if he wants he can speed blitz the planet with a punch, heck he only needs to the atmosphere and give batman a lobotomy from miles away, batman is carried by all the plot, every time we get a mind control superman all of the sudden superman becomes brain damage, all the skills and abilities gone, now he can only fly, punch hard and shoot eye beams, lets not talk how superman a man that can cross between multiple galaxies in seconds cant dodge a bullet, heck mf be calling bats a super genius but they forget superman can think ftl, and has knowledge from all across the universe from tech to general knowledge also something the bothers me is when they make superman useless without his super power, he has being trained by batman and wonder woman in marital arts and the art of war yet he gets beat down over and over again.
I can sort of agree as a Batman fan but the thing is the prep time thing was made by the fans not Batman he doesn’t need prep time he’s already studied all of his friends anyways and knows their personalities and weaknesses and stuff they’re not good at doing and he’s also just smarter than most of them and paranoid as hell that he has plans for all of them and the amount of traumatic shit he’s seen is probably why he came up with half the crazy shit he has in his inventory. Also most of their weaknesses and fights are on the news so he’s watched those because he learned their weaknesses before they got on the team and also he stopped him before you just have to trick him into the bullet or wrist bomb. Also he doesn’t kill because when he does it always turns bad because he’d start killing more and more and people look up to him so kids would probably think it would be cool to kill too (in his world not ours) also the league would have to get involved because why stop at his villains? Why doesn’t he kill all of theirs too? See? Difficult spot because it comes down to morals
Of course he is. Joker too. All it takes for joker to be dead is one of batman's villains, or any other for that matter, to say "screw it" and kill the joker with a slap or even a gun. Fact is, Jason is clearly the only sane person on the batfamily that realizes Gotham SHOULD have death penalty. The writing is so bad that even if bats has this insane no-kill rule for psychos that escape jail every 5 minutes, why the hell Gotham city has never sentenced anyone to be unlived? I guess I should correct myself here: Jason is clearly the only sane person in Gotham. I can understand why he's so pissed all the time.
@@pearljaime2 Batman created Robins to be better version of Batman not a worse version of Batman. Dick is the only Robin who achieved that as Nightwing.
Please do not let Zack Snyder's Frank Miller fetish allow people to start thinking that Batman is overrated. He's not overrated, he's just been misinterpreted by a lot of geeks who don't understand the character.
He's overrated even in the comics. He's supposed to be the world's greatest detective, he shouldn't be able to defeat demi-gods, demons and superhumans.
People glaze Batman so much they don’t even mention the times he lost The best example is with karma who’s dc’s taskmaster he has the ability anticipate the opponent attack and he bodied the mf
What makes me angrier is batman doesnt truly NEED prep time for a lot of matchups. He theows everything at his disposal he carries with him on his default suit and equipment. Even if he loses he WILL put up a good fight and not give up until its a definite KO. So its okay for batman to lose. Most his villains he loses the first time he meets them
Honestly as a concept and in execution several of the stories, he’s solid. Some real David vs Goliath shit. A man that can’t move past his trauma, but because it still controls him he forces it into a position where he can use it to help others. But a lot of fans and even quite a few writers like to jerk him off to be this insane spirit of vengeance with 10 billion IQ that can defeat anyone by outthinking them 100% of the time, and completely miss the human half that makes the character work. OSP really did put it best. “If you can’t picture your Batman comforting a scared child, that’s not Batman. That’s the Punisher in a funny hat.”
I 100% agree with you. I've been making similar points about Batman since I was a kid. The one that really hammered it home was the fact that Batman doesn't kill Joker due to some silly morality reasons. The stupidest reasoning ever not to kill a reoccurring villain beyond redeeming. 4:08
honestly my problem with prep time and money is if batman can do it why havent there respective villans done it, like how is lex loseing to superman when hes just batman without a code, lex has also conancally beat batman but then lost to the joker whos some how beaten by batman who beats superman who beats lex every time, at the end of the day batman is winning because writers want him to cuz prep time dont me shit when your fighting someone who can move faster then u can see and you regularly get boby by ordenary or slightly enhanced people your self. At the end of the day I like batman but dc be over using him and it makes him hard to like in the justice league because he sapposed to be the ordanary guy who works hard to keep up , but if he reagularly just bodys the justice league that undermines his character
@arthurgomes8214 The fact the flash didn't wipe his rogues gallery at all despite his immense power is dumb by the logic of anyone who believes batman should kill his rogues gallery. If he kills the Joker, eventually the next big bad on his list would have the same arguments and statements circled around him.
I'm the biggest batman fan ever, but you make some valid points. I think he could kill all justice league members with his contigency plans except for Flash tbh.
Batman is THE ONLY PERSON who shouldn't kill the Joker. LITERALLY EVERYBODY ELSE IN GOTHAM SHOULD, THOUGH. The Gordons, Bullock, GCPD, rival criminals, Harley & Ivy, random citizen with conceal carry permit, take the fucking shot. No jury on Earth will convict you.
Clooney was the worst Batman, and this isn't just the Shumacher campyness talking. He spent the whole movie mugging at the camera to the fans like "Don't blame me guys; I know this sucks too." Kilmer and Pattinson and Affleck all tried. Clooney is the only guy to play Batman like he didn't give a damn. BTW Didn't like either of Affleck's theatrical releases but he and Jeremy Irons were both good. They just needed better scripts.
All facts, although I don't really get the "how come Batman struggles with the Joker but can fight Gods" argument at all. Like Batman doesn't struggle with the Joker in a fight. There's no recorded history where Batman goes up against the Joker and thinks "Oh my fucking God, I'm about to fight a lanky psychotic clown who spent half his life in a prison cell, better come equipped juiced up and my armor which can duke it out against God himself" the reason Joker is a threat is the same reason Batman is a threat, his wit and intelligence. We've seen Joker outsmart and outplay other members of the Justice League too, hell this mf literally tricked Mxyzptlk into granting him 99% of it's powers and then he rules the entire multiverse.
@@plasticweapon Because Gods in DC are mostly physical problems for a man like Batman, and with his advanced technology, he can mostly clear that power gap up. Joker is a mental threat, and Batman can't just upgrade his intelligence on a whim, and considering the fact that Joker is also a threat to such Gods BECAUSE of his intelligence, it certainly tracks.
pretty sure in the recent comics dude literally has a robot suit with all the jl's weakness in it so he kinda solos now unless they catch him off guard or catch him away from his cave and shit
I've been saying this for a few years now, they have him bench pressing 1,000lbs....for a 6'1 and around 210lbs character, that doesn't add up??? Then he's the world's greatest detective, master of all these martial arts forms? Too much hype. I'll put Daredevil, Captain America 🇺🇸 and Punisher over Batman, in my opinion 🤷🏾♂️
Dude every street tier has plot armor. Seriously, look at Cap. Man if you just lure him to a warehouse and shoot him from all fucking angles. Yet people stay only saying this shit about Batman But yes a lot of times it does work out sometimes bad. You could stand a better solution to Deal with Joker other than killing him, but you didn't
I think the reason they say this with Batman its cuz hes the biggest example of this issue, not to mention how some of his fans bring out the "prep time", making him even more of a target for this topic.
Batman rocks easily the joker it’s more of a psychological battle where the joker actually wants Batman to kill him and prove his point, one bad day is enough to turn a man crazy/lose his principles (the no kill rule here)
If Batman is sooooo smart and a billionaire, how come he still can't find ways to jail Joker for good without him escaping........?? How smart can Bruce Wayne really be for failing this hard to contain 90% of the villains in Gotham?
@@Dukxinza because Batman brings the villains to the judicial system of Gotham which he is not related to. Would be completely out of character and against all his principles to just independently kidnap and lock criminals in an inescapable prison which is something he could easily do btw
@@アラン-l1l and by NOT going against his personal principles and code, he indirectly and INTENTIONALLY allows mass murderers such as Joker to consistently and constantly escape Gotham judicial system and go on to kill thousands every time. How is Batman still considered a "hero" at this point??
@@Dukxinza this is a very interesting theme that is actually a part of a lot of Batman comics (like 2face in the dark knight returns), shows really well how Gotham is truly a shithole and that even tho we the readers and batman himself know this war against crime will probably never end we keep fighting and giving a second chance to these crazy killers. Really shows how human batman actually is. That’s what makes him one of the most iconic heroes.
@@Dukxinza remember batman did not get revenge on the joker when he killed Jason Todd but the first thing Superman did when lois died, killed by the same dude was forgetting everything that made him a hero, murdering the joker and becoming a full blown worldwide dictator…
I disagree with most what you said. Batman is strong even without plot armor. A lot of superhumans have a hard time with him. He gets nerfed in most movies and tv for plot, just look at Superman in his TV show. Gets hurt 24/7 when he should be invincible to most things. Batman has an extreme amount of potential that is barley ever shown in media like TV and Movies. Batman needs prep to beat the Justice League (like 1 minute of prep). Raw battle he can take a couple of them (Superman, maybe Wonder Woman, maybe Martian Manhunter, Green Arrow) so raw he can't really do nothing to take them ALL out unless he whips out fear toxin to weaken them. The Flash can beaten by messing with floor, like making him slip and place a extremely sticky material for him to fall onto. Then knock him out. But that takes prep so nvm. Batman has basically superhuman speed. "he's a just a human" he's a fictional human, barley realistic. He can dodge heat vision or teleport away (Aka use the smoke bomb). He is not just a human. Batman strength is still enough in a fight since it's peakest of human strength potential. Batman wouldn't win EVERY single time, but he is still very underestimated. Batman beats The Joker with ease all the time (like in Hush), its just the Joker doesn't get disabled somehow. Joker comes back every couple years. Writers say he dies then he comes back. The only reason he saved Joker in the Red Hood is because he doesn't want his son to be a killer. Anyone else Batman would allow them to kill Joker if it was out of his control completely. People seem to forget that Batman isn't the only character who has a no-kill rule. I'm sure Spider-Man, Daredevil, Superman (not Injustice), act the same way. Attempt to make the criminal a better person or toying with them instead of giving up and killing them. Ben Affleck is good when it comes to power, phisic, leadership, and weapons. Other then that he's not good but I like how he shows how powerful Batman should be. Pattinson and Bale are too weak, good in terms of writing I guess but not in terms of power. No wonder people don't believe in Batman. The most powerful live action version was trash.
@@mistermonocle4076 , Spider-Man does have a no-kill rule. Just like Batman he refuses to kill a terrorist (The Green Goblin). Go more of the path of "I'm not judge, jury and executioner", attempt to go by the book. Most of the time these they do have a no-kill rule, extremely rare for any of them to end up killing.
its actually the opposite , no hero out there is actually "Human" Born and i will bleed abit off topic , Not even Goku is Human Born , (Shaggy maybe human Born?) , anyways Batman is the only "Realistic" hero out there that can hold his own against Heroes with Super powers. so jabbing at batman here , is literally jabbing at yourself. even more so as Goku being "From another Race and from another planet".
Dude you are just coping, either you are a Marvel fanboi or just a DC hater,,, Batman isn't supposed to be some weak ass human who loses all the time, he is the personification of Intelligence, hard work, dedication, and passion, Pre dionesium Batman could leg press 1.5 Tons, could lift 2500 pounds after he fell into the dionesium pool he has grown stronger. and by the way Batman has sold more than 582 million comics in total that's the entirety [or more] of Spiderman and ironman combined... so you should read some comics instead of saying things you didn't understand at all, I can debunk every non comic readers' statement that are completely wrong, Batman had his fair share of losses too for example he never dodged Darkseid's omega beams in the comics, He literally got vaporized and sent to the end of time then to the past like cave man era By Darkseid [oversimplified , a lot of important things happened]. and plot armor huh? i am gonna give u some examples here , in Marvel 616 Cap is a peak human like Batman with similar strength feats, both of them are able to rip open a pressurized plane doors from outside [new 52 Batman run], Cap literally traded Blows with the Hulk, later he got demolished by the hulk but he didn't fcking die, Daredevil survived after a whole building fell on him, in xmen days of futurepast doomsday Spiderman died to a Normal thug with a metal rod that's what happens when you take his plot armor.. Batman definitely has plot armor, every character has but the thing Batman has plot armors in Elseworld storylines, Main Continuity Batman's feats are 1000 times more consistent than any other character in fiction..
Half the league can literally move faster than Batman can think. If they wanted him dead he’d be dead 1 or 10 years of prep 😭😭
He doesn’t need prep time for them considering that he already studied their weaknesses while they were working together why the hell do you think he dogged on them in most of their fights? Because he doesn’t need prep time for them he works with them and not half the league only like several and I’m pretty sure that’s only Flash and Superman mainly and kryptonite and vibrating bullet worked before
@@SpikeyXSTheRedHood plot armor
@blackvoid3308 everyone has it 😐
@@SpikeyXSTheRedHood but by that same logic lex should have merked superman ages ago
@amadoubass3406 True
Agree with you 99%. But Superman would wreck Batman even with kryptonite. Superman already knows that Batman has it so Superman would just take him out from orbit.
Yeah this guy doesn't know a fucking thing about Superman it's like you realize Kryptonite doesn't always do that right😂 he's just going off him being a fanboy
People always bring up prep time for how Batman can beat anyone like Spider-Man, thanos, even goku. But the easiest thing to say to that is, in a fight you don’t get prep time, it’s not like a movie where the say “meet me at the back of the school tomorrow” no it’s a random encounter, Batman looses to damn near everyone in a actual battle. If it’s like a high school movie where they plan their fights than sure. But otherwise no he looses to Spider-Man, goku, the hulk damn near everyone.
I hope you realize theses are hypocritical fights that wouldn’t actually happen,It’s the same thing when ppl say “who would win 1000 SpongeBobs or Goku”It’s hypocritical,And ppl bring up prep time because that’s Batman at his best why would you put Batman against someone like HULK AND NOT EVEN GIVE HIM THE ABILITY TO USE HIS GREATEST WEAPON😑
Also he beat the hulk 😂 in a fight in the collab comic so yeahhhhh no your point doesn’t stand and he’d fuck up Spider-Man because Peter struggles with Kingpin 💀 and has lost to him even not holding back and Goku what the hell are you talking about I’ve never heard anyone say some BS like this and if it comes down to an actual fight Batman is a better fighter and he doesn’t have to win with a fight him and Goku would probably just talk or chill because Batman can teach him a lot of fighting moves 😂
@@SpikeyXSTheRedHood Hey man just because I think prep time is fair to use doesn’t mean I want him to hulk lvl,Batman using prep should be demonstrated through his feats and intelligence and the character he is fighting,If Batman was to fight Hulk with prep the only way I could think of is something to calm him down,Other than that Hulk clears,Spider-Man beats Batman without prep pretty easily however it’s closer if Batman has prep and I give it to Batman there,And yes Batman is a better fighter than Goku but not like leagues above him
@@splurgehunter-4866 He didnt use prep time for hulk 💀 it was knockout gas go read the comic it’s fire and I think he fought Spider-Man before they teamed up against Joker and Carnage and Batman beat him
@@SpikeyXSTheRedHood I actually read the comic….And my point is that if Hulk was to fight hulk he would need prep😑 and I still think he’ll lose
Superman has been shown to be able to take on a KRYPTONITE INFUSED DOOMSDAY. And he’s overpowered metallo as well. Prep time isn’t shit for Batman against Supes anymore. Spider-Man would destroy Batman too.
Tbf, if its just a spur of the moment fight with no prep I dont think he manages to pull that kryptonite out before getting speed blitzed by supes
Batman doesn't kill because he thinks that people should face trial so it's actually the city's fault for not being able to properly execute or hold villain's like the joker
Ben is actually a great actor .
Nah
He is it was just the script that messed him up,he was surprisingly good in flashpoint
Batman cant even kill superman, the mf is faster than light if he wants he can speed blitz the planet with a punch, heck he only needs to the atmosphere and give batman a lobotomy from miles away, batman is carried by all the plot, every time we get a mind control superman all of the sudden superman becomes brain damage, all the skills and abilities gone, now he can only fly, punch hard and shoot eye beams, lets not talk how superman a man that can cross between multiple galaxies in seconds cant dodge a bullet, heck mf be calling bats a super genius but they forget superman can think ftl, and has knowledge from all across the universe from tech to general knowledge also something the bothers me is when they make superman useless without his super power, he has being trained by batman and wonder woman in marital arts and the art of war yet he gets beat down over and over again.
I can sort of agree as a Batman fan but the thing is the prep time thing was made by the fans not Batman he doesn’t need prep time he’s already studied all of his friends anyways and knows their personalities and weaknesses and stuff they’re not good at doing and he’s also just smarter than most of them and paranoid as hell that he has plans for all of them and the amount of traumatic shit he’s seen is probably why he came up with half the crazy shit he has in his inventory. Also most of their weaknesses and fights are on the news so he’s watched those because he learned their weaknesses before they got on the team and also he stopped him before you just have to trick him into the bullet or wrist bomb. Also he doesn’t kill because when he does it always turns bad because he’d start killing more and more and people look up to him so kids would probably think it would be cool to kill too (in his world not ours) also the league would have to get involved because why stop at his villains? Why doesn’t he kill all of theirs too? See? Difficult spot because it comes down to morals
super man better
Facts
2:18 Not to mention reverse flash was distracted and didn’t notice Thomas.
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Crusaders killed innocent non christian kids women but Batman doesn't kill .
Of course he is. Joker too. All it takes for joker to be dead is one of batman's villains, or any other for that matter, to say "screw it" and kill the joker with a slap or even a gun.
Fact is, Jason is clearly the only sane person on the batfamily that realizes Gotham SHOULD have death penalty. The writing is so bad that even if bats has this insane no-kill rule for psychos that escape jail every 5 minutes, why the hell Gotham city has never sentenced anyone to be unlived? I guess I should correct myself here: Jason is clearly the only sane person in Gotham. I can understand why he's so pissed all the time.
You are just angry Batman is a superhero and not an anti hero. Lol
@@petermj1098 you're just angry because you know I'm right😎
@@pearljaime2 Batman created Robins to be better version of Batman not a worse version of Batman. Dick is the only Robin who achieved that as Nightwing.
@@petermj1098 no. The writters created robin to be his side kick to be more kid friendly🤦♂️
@@pearljaime2 Yeah and Jason is totally lived up to the kid friendliness as Red Hood lol
Please do not let Zack Snyder's Frank Miller fetish allow people to start thinking that Batman is overrated. He's not overrated, he's just been misinterpreted by a lot of geeks who don't understand the character.
Yea it's a lot of niggas that think he can't lose
He's overrated even in the comics. He's supposed to be the world's greatest detective, he shouldn't be able to defeat demi-gods, demons and superhumans.
if Batman had prep time while other hero’s have powers then it’s only fair
Despite Superman and Martian manhunter weakness, he can be speed blitz
People glaze Batman so much they don’t even mention the times he lost
The best example is with karma who’s dc’s taskmaster he has the ability anticipate the opponent attack and he bodied the mf
“BUT ARKHAM BATMAN WOULD BEAT ONE ABOVE ALL THOUGH”
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- Glazing FatBoi
What makes me angrier is batman doesnt truly NEED prep time for a lot of matchups. He theows everything at his disposal he carries with him on his default suit and equipment. Even if he loses he WILL put up a good fight and not give up until its a definite KO. So its okay for batman to lose. Most his villains he loses the first time he meets them
fully supporting you about the flash
Honestly as a concept and in execution several of the stories, he’s solid. Some real David vs Goliath shit. A man that can’t move past his trauma, but because it still controls him he forces it into a position where he can use it to help others.
But a lot of fans and even quite a few writers like to jerk him off to be this insane spirit of vengeance with 10 billion IQ that can defeat anyone by outthinking them 100% of the time, and completely miss the human half that makes the character work.
OSP really did put it best. “If you can’t picture your Batman comforting a scared child, that’s not Batman. That’s the Punisher in a funny hat.”
I 100% agree with you. I've been making similar points about Batman since I was a kid. The one that really hammered it home was the fact that Batman doesn't kill Joker due to some silly morality reasons. The stupidest reasoning ever not to kill a reoccurring villain beyond redeeming. 4:08
honestly my problem with prep time and money is if batman can do it why havent there respective villans done it, like how is lex loseing to superman when hes just batman without a code, lex has also conancally beat batman but then lost to the joker whos some how beaten by batman who beats superman who beats lex every time, at the end of the day batman is winning because writers want him to cuz prep time dont me shit when your fighting someone who can move faster then u can see and you regularly get boby by ordenary or slightly enhanced people your self.
At the end of the day I like batman but dc be over using him and it makes him hard to like in the justice league because he sapposed to be the ordanary guy who works hard to keep up , but if he reagularly just bodys the justice league that undermines his character
I would argue that Batman and Joker are two great characters that have become victims of their own popularity.
Critiquing batmans no kill rule while praising the flash is crazy. 😂
Realistically isn’t Reverse Flash the only Flash Rogue worth killing, like the other guys aren’t known serial killers like Batman’s villains.
@arthurgomes8214 The fact the flash didn't wipe his rogues gallery at all despite his immense power is dumb by the logic of anyone who believes batman should kill his rogues gallery. If he kills the Joker, eventually the next big bad on his list would have the same arguments and statements circled around him.
@@arthurgomes8214Batman & Superman & spider man they always hold back cause they don’t wanna kill anyone
@@arthurgomes8214the best superheroes are the ones who don’t really wanna kill people
People find dumb ways to hate on Batman. Batman haters are more annoying than Batman fanboys.
Overrated or not he is GOATED
I'm the biggest batman fan ever, but you make some valid points. I think he could kill all justice league members with his contigency plans except for Flash tbh.
Batman is THE ONLY PERSON who shouldn't kill the Joker.
LITERALLY EVERYBODY ELSE IN GOTHAM SHOULD, THOUGH. The Gordons, Bullock, GCPD, rival criminals, Harley & Ivy, random citizen with conceal carry permit, take the fucking shot. No jury on Earth will convict you.
Clooney was the worst Batman, and this isn't just the Shumacher campyness talking. He spent the whole movie mugging at the camera to the fans like "Don't blame me guys; I know this sucks too." Kilmer and Pattinson and Affleck all tried. Clooney is the only guy to play Batman like he didn't give a damn.
BTW Didn't like either of Affleck's theatrical releases but he and Jeremy Irons were both good. They just needed better scripts.
didn’t he already have a plan to defeat every justice league member
Batman Is An Spider-Man Victim 😂
nah spidey is way too overkill, he a homelander victim
Finally someone put the edge lords in they place
BATMAN BETTER CRY WIMPER SEATHE AND COPE
@@dumi_chenu3730i was trolling 😭
@@bigmoe272 mb fam
All facts, although I don't really get the "how come Batman struggles with the Joker but can fight Gods" argument at all. Like Batman doesn't struggle with the Joker in a fight. There's no recorded history where Batman goes up against the Joker and thinks "Oh my fucking God, I'm about to fight a lanky psychotic clown who spent half his life in a prison cell, better come equipped juiced up and my armor which can duke it out against God himself" the reason Joker is a threat is the same reason Batman is a threat, his wit and intelligence.
We've seen Joker outsmart and outplay other members of the Justice League too, hell this mf literally tricked Mxyzptlk into granting him 99% of it's powers and then he rules the entire multiverse.
so...why is the joker a problem when batman can fight gods?
@@plasticweapon Because Gods in DC are mostly physical problems for a man like Batman, and with his advanced technology, he can mostly clear that power gap up.
Joker is a mental threat, and Batman can't just upgrade his intelligence on a whim, and considering the fact that Joker is also a threat to such Gods BECAUSE of his intelligence, it certainly tracks.
@@tananatana4011 what a load of nonsense.
@@plasticweapon I mean you can gawk, but if you can't dispute the shit you're claiming is nonsense, then that's your problem
@@tananatana4011 learn english, and learn how to make an argument.
Sometimes I think why o why UA-cam removed the dislike button
pretty sure in the recent comics dude literally has a robot suit with all the jl's weakness in it so he kinda solos now unless they catch him off guard or catch him away from his cave and shit
You stated the facts perfectly well through my prospective sir 👍
Honest and brutal! Well said.
I've been saying this for a few years now, they have him bench pressing 1,000lbs....for a 6'1 and around 210lbs character, that doesn't add up??? Then he's the world's greatest detective, master of all these martial arts forms? Too much hype. I'll put Daredevil, Captain America 🇺🇸 and Punisher over Batman, in my opinion 🤷🏾♂️
A year is a bit too much I would say maybe 1 or 2 weeks
Dude every street tier has plot armor. Seriously, look at Cap. Man if you just lure him to a warehouse and shoot him from all fucking angles. Yet people stay only saying this shit about Batman
But yes a lot of times it does work out sometimes bad.
You could stand a better solution to Deal with Joker other than killing him, but you didn't
I think the reason they say this with Batman its cuz hes the biggest example of this issue, not to mention how some of his fans bring out the "prep time", making him even more of a target for this topic.
@@andrei3436 with prep time, maybe. Otherwise no
“The easiest is Superman”. This is when I knew this take was trash 🤡
Give me the funny green stone and even my gradma is beating this mf, kryptonite is so bs man
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I love dragon ball z
I've saying the same
Batman isn't overrated, he's over played just as much as the joke that he can beat anyone with prep time, though now people actually believe it.
Batman rocks easily the joker it’s more of a psychological battle where the joker actually wants Batman to kill him and prove his point, one bad day is enough to turn a man crazy/lose his principles (the no kill rule here)
If Batman is sooooo smart and a billionaire, how come he still can't find ways to jail Joker for good without him escaping........?? How smart can Bruce Wayne really be for failing this hard to contain 90% of the villains in Gotham?
@@Dukxinza because Batman brings the villains to the judicial system of Gotham which he is not related to. Would be completely out of character and against all his principles to just independently kidnap and lock criminals in an inescapable prison which is something he could easily do btw
@@アラン-l1l and by NOT going against his personal principles and code, he indirectly and INTENTIONALLY allows mass murderers such as Joker to consistently and constantly escape Gotham judicial system and go on to kill thousands every time.
How is Batman still considered a "hero" at this point??
@@Dukxinza this is a very interesting theme that is actually a part of a lot of Batman comics (like 2face in the dark knight returns), shows really well how Gotham is truly a shithole and that even tho we the readers and batman himself know this war against crime will probably never end we keep fighting and giving a second chance to these crazy killers. Really shows how human batman actually is. That’s what makes him one of the most iconic heroes.
@@Dukxinza remember batman did not get revenge on the joker when he killed Jason Todd but the first thing Superman did when lois died, killed by the same dude was forgetting everything that made him a hero, murdering the joker and becoming a full blown worldwide dictator…
Overrated or sh!t talk here are the facts hes GOATED this video isnt relevant
*superman killed lois
not on his own accord
do you remember what happened and Lois was killed
and Metropolis destroyed
Batman is perfectly rated
Nah
If he kills the Joker, he’ll be just like him. He holds human life valuable above all else, even his enemies. Also, he hates guns.
He dresses his side-kicks up in broght yellow, red and green to act as bullet sponges for him.
The problem with this logic is that... Joker killed thousands of people.
So much for valuing life, eh?
Vegata & goku are more overrated than Batman cause they don’t do anything special
Goku beats supes
I disagree with most what you said.
Batman is strong even without plot armor. A lot of superhumans have a hard time with him. He gets nerfed in most movies and tv for plot, just look at Superman in his TV show. Gets hurt 24/7 when he should be invincible to most things. Batman has an extreme amount of potential that is barley ever shown in media like TV and Movies.
Batman needs prep to beat the Justice League (like 1 minute of prep). Raw battle he can take a couple of them (Superman, maybe Wonder Woman, maybe Martian Manhunter, Green Arrow) so raw he can't really do nothing to take them ALL out unless he whips out fear toxin to weaken them.
The Flash can beaten by messing with floor, like making him slip and place a extremely sticky material for him to fall onto. Then knock him out. But that takes prep so nvm.
Batman has basically superhuman speed. "he's a just a human" he's a fictional human, barley realistic. He can dodge heat vision or teleport away (Aka use the smoke bomb). He is not just a human.
Batman strength is still enough in a fight since it's peakest of human strength potential.
Batman wouldn't win EVERY single time, but he is still very underestimated.
Batman beats The Joker with ease all the time (like in Hush), its just the Joker doesn't get disabled somehow.
Joker comes back every couple years. Writers say he dies then he comes back. The only reason he saved Joker in the Red Hood is because he doesn't want his son to be a killer. Anyone else Batman would allow them to kill Joker if it was out of his control completely.
People seem to forget that Batman isn't the only character who has a no-kill rule. I'm sure Spider-Man, Daredevil, Superman (not Injustice), act the same way. Attempt to make the criminal a better person or toying with them instead of giving up and killing them.
Ben Affleck is good when it comes to power, phisic, leadership, and weapons. Other then that he's not good but I like how he shows how powerful Batman should be. Pattinson and Bale are too weak, good in terms of writing I guess but not in terms of power. No wonder people don't believe in Batman. The most powerful live action version was trash.
Spiderman does not have no kill rule, he only does when its necessary to kill the said thing.
@@mistermonocle4076 , Spider-Man does have a no-kill rule. Just like Batman he refuses to kill a terrorist (The Green Goblin). Go more of the path of "I'm not judge, jury and executioner", attempt to go by the book. Most of the time these they do have a no-kill rule, extremely rare for any of them to end up killing.
its actually the opposite , no hero out there is actually "Human" Born and i will bleed abit off topic , Not even Goku is Human Born , (Shaggy maybe human Born?) , anyways Batman is the only "Realistic" hero out there that can hold his own against Heroes with Super powers. so jabbing at batman here , is literally jabbing at yourself. even more so as Goku being "From another Race and from another planet".
Batman solos dragon ball
With terrible writing maybe.
@@talonsandspears8129 Batman can bench press pretty 3000 casually
@@yarc9 might want to sharpen your hook, because this fish isn't gonna get caught in your argument net.
no
yes.
Dude you are just coping, either you are a Marvel fanboi or just a DC hater,,, Batman isn't supposed to be some weak ass human who loses all the time, he is the personification of Intelligence, hard work, dedication, and passion, Pre dionesium Batman could leg press 1.5 Tons, could lift 2500 pounds after he fell into the dionesium pool he has grown stronger. and by the way Batman has sold more than 582 million comics in total that's the entirety [or more] of Spiderman and ironman combined... so you should read some comics instead of saying things you didn't understand at all, I can debunk every non comic readers' statement that are completely wrong, Batman had his fair share of losses too for example he never dodged Darkseid's omega beams in the comics, He literally got vaporized and sent to the end of time then to the past like cave man era By Darkseid [oversimplified , a lot of important things happened].
and plot armor huh? i am gonna give u some examples here , in Marvel 616 Cap is a peak human like Batman with similar strength feats, both of them are able to rip open a pressurized plane doors from outside [new 52 Batman run], Cap literally traded Blows with the Hulk, later he got demolished by the hulk but he didn't fcking die, Daredevil survived after a whole building fell on him, in xmen days of futurepast doomsday Spiderman died to a Normal thug with a metal rod that's what happens when you take his plot armor.. Batman definitely has plot armor, every character has but the thing Batman has plot armors in Elseworld storylines, Main Continuity Batman's feats are 1000 times more consistent than any other character in fiction..
wow, you're so intelligent and unbiased. fucking NOT.
@@plasticweaponAre trying to be edgy here because seems like my comment tickled some of your BRAINDED nerves
Sit your ass down 😤