Years and Years - Analysis / Review
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2019
- TEAR THE WORLD DOWN! Harry disintegrates another TV show with grace and a little humour.
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It feels like it's taken me years and years to finish this, but it's finally complete. I hope you enjoy!
My prayers answered. Thank you
I WANT MORE REVIEWWWWWS
Can u do a, the thick of it review
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I am happy to have found your channel.
On the whole it's very British thing, I gotta agree with victor. Theres evidence that many in the British government saw the Irish famine as a way to get rid of the Irish poor who were no use to them. Britain has a history of letting genocide happen if it helps them in the long run
I'd say that's more of a general elite thing, rather than a British thing. The world elite (irrelevant of any country) see the rest of us humans as 'useless eaters', as they themselves put it poetically. They see us as cattle that they can do with as they please.
You use the term genocide like its something that can be done without intent. We dont look at the tens of millions killed in Chinas 'great leap forward' and say "this is genocide."
The literal defining core part of genocide is that it is intentionally done to kill x group, if its just the result of incompetence, negligence or just a lack of care about the consequences then it is not genocide. If this was not the case then every disaster that could be attributed to humans would be a 'genocide', this is a pretty clear butchering of language for pushing a political agenda.
If Britain could be so easily attributed to having orchestrated the Irish Famine with the intent of causing death and a large exodus from ireland then by the same logic surly the British likewise must have intentionally grown the population of Ireland so massively larger while part of the UK and England before. Or are we only going to say that 'muh evil anglo' is just at one point near god-like levels of competent managing to organised some massive bio-warfare campaign in the mid 1800's while also magically convincing irish landowners to sell the food they did have to places like England where it would make them more money instead of selling it to their own people?
But then when its not in favour of some one-sided revisionist history propagandised by any mid-wit willing to read into events what they think can help create a few cool sounding clips, I guess the British just become totally incompetent and such massive population increases were then totally unrelated and/or accidental. The lowest drop in Irelands population actually being a decade or two after independence was given, so I guess thats also the UK's fualt of course and the Irish bear no responsibility or agency at all becuase obviosly we couldnt even for a second think that maybe the whole picture is a bit more complex than "British bad, Irish good."
@@drdeadred851 also to even think genocide is a very British thing is the most retarded thing I have ever heard. Maybe "Victor" should look at how Ukrainians treated ethnic Poles in WW2.....
Peak midwittery really is "Irish famine was literally genocide"
@@drdeadred851The british caused the genocide due to negligence.
Similar to how a parent can cause their childs death through negligence.
Fun fact: Vivienne Rook is also the name of the reporter that is murdered by the Toclafane in The Sound of Drums, another RTD written story.
Also, half the cast has been on Doctor Who:
Daniel - Alonso
Muriel - Mrs.Finnegan/The Plasmivore
Edith - Joan Redfern
Celeste - The General (Fem)
Doctor from final scene - Professor Doherty
I KNEW I recognised that name.
I know this comment is like 3 years old now but that scene when Edith uses her phone to hack the company or whatever, the woman standing next to the kid plays Diane in Flux too - Dan's love interest.
And now Rosie as well. Shirley Ann Bingham.
The show hits differently now in 2023 and this review felt so relevant to life right now, especially about refugees and channel crossings!
The fact this series was quite accurate and predicted a lot of stuff
reason why there was no follow up
I actually laughed when they predicted the monkey 'flu' lol
Difference is Biden is president and he is likely to lead us to a world war!
This show is turn left: the series
Simply Epic yes
Looking Glass It’s a Dr Who thing sir, get some more culture in you
Was watching this today and later realised they nailed the Queen passing down to the right year which is interesting. Rest in Peace.
Sounds like a great Black Mirror replacement
I couldn't shake off the feeling that I was watching an episode of black mirror whenever I watched this.
I wonder how the grandma did not had a single heart attack
OK LITERALLY AS SOON AS THIS SHOW CAME OUT I WAS WAITING FOR U TO REVIEW IT I CAN'T BELIEVE THE DAY HAS FINALLY COME
Almost two years later, I just wan to say that the whole "the Muriel's eyesight operation money could've been used on Rosie" thing is discussed on episode 2, with the baby that received the intra-uterus (is that even a word???) surgery. Rosie stands on the "I'm beautiful as I am, I don't need no surgery" side of things (Which I found a great stance, and pretty valuable, coincidentally explored in 2020's "The Sound of Metal").
I'm still wondering to whom Viviene referred when she said "they would have me killed"
that’s the only reason why i think it’d be cool to see a second season from a different perspective. like rewind to 2021 and start over from maybe a government workers view or even Vivienne’s. it’s also an opportunity to expand on some brushed over topics like climate change. but now with corona i guess it’s kind of difficult since the event wasn’t in their timeline.
Still looking for an answer
there is no "they". politicians and others use this rethorical device to obscure who they're referring to so you can't prove them wrong or deny allegations of for example antisemitism if the mysterious "they" are implied to be jews.
It could be that she's trying to suggest that there is someone even above her and that she's merely just a pawn and simply doing what they want so that she stays in power as PM. I'm not sure though. Neither the show nor RTD gave a definitive answer for it.
RTD is an incredibly important writer to me, but sometimes he just steps a little too far across the line of absurdity with his endings. Which is especially odd when the stories don't really build up to such absurdity plotting wise, tone wise or scale wise. Like Jesus Doctor in Last of the Time Lords (which is built up in the far background but then just thrown at you as quick as possible) or something like the steampunk Cyber Emperor thingy from The New Doctor. In this one it's the full on sci fi concepts and sudden use of a literal freaking rocket launcher. The stuff with Vivian running down the endless hallways was pretty great though and has at least a billion possible interpretations.
Is it absurd or a call to the future
@19:00 Ahmed has like 2 lines and one of them is that they have his sister in the camp and that he'll do whatever it takes to take it out. That's pretty clear motivation. As for the RPG, it would make sense that all of this totalitarianism would inspire an armed rebellion.
Spreading infectious disease referred to as British is a nod to historical accounts of this being so. Ever heard of smallpox in early Americas? India suffered a bit as well but basically it all comes down to rounding up native people around the world, breathing on them, starving them, etc that makes it British...or Western but nonetheless your butt hurt edit was funny 😂
HHK quichebot was just thinking this but people tend to be oblivious to their own historical short comings
yeah lol I was a bit surprised that HE was surprised.
Although sadly not acknowledged in the credits, the vocals in Murray Gold's score were provided by a Bulgarian women's choir.
Blew my mind that the actor who played Viktor played the kid in Mr Bean's holiday.
WAIT REALLY
@@Lizzieaftermidnight yep.
@@adamfreddo5703 Damn
I thought this too, but at first could not believe it. how time has flown.
I never got why Daniel cheating on his husband was ok but Steven cheating on his wife was horrific
Probably because Daniel didn't lie to his husband about it. I'm pretty sure Daniel dumps his husband pretty much straight after, while Steven goes on with both his marriage and the affair. Doesn't make it unforgivable, obviously, but it's nowhere near as bad.
@@zarbixii ya i get that but Daniel emotionally cheated on this husband more than steven.(i think emotionally cheating can be worse) but i do understand what you meen and i get that stevens actions where worse as he cheated more for longer.
@@smithy9538 Plus steven had an entire family that he betrayed
Steven cheating on Celeste is more unforgivable because he started cheating when both of them hit rock bottom. And they have two children. Ralph and Daniel were childless and they were doing well financially.
RTD said not all affairs are equal in an interview - Daniel dealt with his affair better than Stephen and him and Viktor were very much in love whereas Stephen admits he doesn't really like the woman he had an affair with and never came clean about it until he was confronted. Daniel is also arguably the protagonist of the series (at least for the first four episodes) so I think more are inclined to forgive the character.
Damn I loved this show, it left me heartbroken. You’re giving me flashbacks, man!
This was the first series in YEARS (no pun) where I didn’t find myself scrolling on my phone whilst watching! I give it a 10/10
If you actually review those Chuckle Vision episodes I will legit cry over some cheese. Great video man, glad you checked this out
You are being petty. Also, a lot of your critiques are "I didn't understand that part". Well, that's on you, not the show, cuz it actually explained everything you didn't catch.
I think that this series definitely had potential, but was quite cringe at times
It was can't take my eyes off the screen embarrassingly transparent in it's politics and scaremongering that at times I honestly thought RTD was taking the piss. But that said, it was well written and entertaining.
It was decent and then just fell apart towards the end.
What was cringe about it?
How was Beth written by RTD and didn't get turned in to a cyberbusman lol
Edith is my absolute favourite! *Jessica Hynes for Doctor!*
Murial was awesome too, but the brilliant quote about clowns and monsters towards the end of the last story was really underplayed.
Please god review Luther as a show in general or Death in Paradise, two opposite shows yet portraying the British peoples ways perfectly
Diddy Dongle Luther is an amazing show! I enjoyed it so much.
Welp, Years and years has to be a documentary by this point
Well... at least Trump's reelection wasn't predicted.
Love how Russel basically hired all the best guest stars from his era
Only small problem I found with this series was how Daniel cheated on his partner and the family laugh about it, but when it was Steven he had to explain himself and was kicked out of his home by his grandmother.
Well, Steven had an entire family and had been cheating for years in secret. Technically, Daniel left his partner then cheated.
This was called out in the show by stephen
And I think it was because stephen had kids, and that reminded the entire family of their father. also viktor was a one-time thing daniel did then he broke up with his husband, stephen was doing it for months
Daniel started to love viktor more after his other relationship was deteriorating but he only allowed himself to sleep with viktor when he thought the world would end and he didn't hide it, hurting his other parter for years like stephen did. That's mt opinion though.
@@rebeccagarner1212, yeah I look back at this comment, and I guess I agree. I mean both of them still did something wrong. Leaving your current partner on what you believe is going to be your last day for someone else is quite bad, but cheating for years is worse.
@@mahfuzurchowdhury2765 I also agree with you that betraying the trust of a relationship is awful but yeah I would prefer it under the circumstances of Daniel
Thank you for this review, although the clipping out of all the small pauses (i.e., breaths) between sentences in the voiceover is extremely annoying.
Vivian Rock never left 10 downing street since 2007 hehe
Moronic on so many levels. That said, fuck the Tories.
I don’t know if you’re calling tony blair vivianne rook?
I’ve just been re watching that show (before The BBC took it off iPlayer that is) and I was literally about to search for reviews of it. You couldn’t have picked a better time.
Me escaping Area 51 with a new Harry’s moving castle review
I was gonna suggest this; rly hoping u we’re gonna bring it out 😂😂
17:14 But there was an entire scene of Rosie and Edith talking about it and Rosie explaining why she doesn't wanna be cured!
Excellent video as always Harry!
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT ITS BEEN 5 MINS THIS IS A TWENTY MIN VIDEO
Great review. Though I disagree about one thing- when you say that Rosie would want to access a cure. That’s not true. She said she wouldn’t want one. And that’s actually pretty common for disabled people. Especially those who are born with their disabilities, and who don’t suffer large amounts of chronic pain due to them. You ask blind or Deaf people if they want a cure, and I’d venture to say that more than half would say “ no thanks” (mostly those who were born deaf or blind or became disabled as a child).
So it’s not at all unrealistic that Rosie wouldn’t have gone after a cure for herself. She was fine with her identity as a disabled person, and didn’t want to change who she was. Which is perfectly understandable. Now, I personally would choose a cure in a heartbeat, but I have huge levels of chronic pain daily, and I became disabled as an adult- it’s not a part of my identity in quite the same way as someone born disabled. I had a “before” and my before was very different to what it is now, and I did lose a lot. That’s not the case for everyone.
I also appreciate that Rosie touched on the idea of eugenics- fixing people being too short, etc.
As for Viktor knowing that concentration camps and illnesses is very British, all that takes is a modicum of education in history. It’s not like it’s a secret that the Brits invented concentration camps. I certainly knew all about it, and had done for many years. So I don’t see a plot hole here, it was already established that Viktor was well educated. The Boer War is a matter of world history. As is the actions of the British in South Africa.
And that’s just one instance. There’s also smallpox in the Americas, the potato blight in Ireland, the famine in India… Viktor is right, it is a very British thing to do because they’ve done it many times throughout history.
This is nowhere near being a plot hole mate.
Bloody hell never been this early 😂 love your videos and I loved this program
How relevant this all is now. When I saw this a few years ago I had chills, now it is here I am still horrified but realise people MUST wake. "Covid-19 vaccine" global takeover. WAKEUP people
Another 8 months later and Ukrainian refugees?? This show spooked me the fk out
What do mean that the Blink device was not utilised properly? But i guess it's because you don't like the climax at the end?
In case anyone sees this, the British creating concentration camps is now taught to every student who takes gcse history, so now a lot of people know about South Africa in the late 19th and 20th century
really? since when, i only took gcse history a couple of years ago and dont remember anything about the south african camps
I took history until exams were cancelled and I didn’t learn about the camps, I believe it depends on the school and what you learn. I did know about them before the show however.
21:53 no wayyyy. Harry, you'll love it. I mean, it's basically soap. Gay soap. And we have a lot of gay soap these days, but it was *HUGE* in the 90s. God, I love that show. Best character writing I've ever seen.
Thank you for this. I laughed a looooot and definitely was pulled back from any philosophical analysis of this show😂
hey man great analysis of the show, I just want to ask which part of history were you referring to when they started to talk about the camps. As far as I am concerned that part seemed to be aligning with Germany history, I am not sure if south Africa did it but I wonder when was this?
TBH the germans surely weren't the first nor the last doing that. They were just the ones who protocolled everything and with the nurnberger trials all was made public and known by everyone. Add to that how Germany took full responsibility and is owning up to it to this day in school. We have a whole year in school just for ww2...ask a Japanese what they are being taught about ww2. There are some interesting videos from Simon whistler regarding that topic
Its in reference to the concentration camps the British empire set up during the Boer War.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Boer_War_concentration_camps
Doing this for my Drama gcse. this was VERY helpful.
I'm so glad I can finally watch this. God, I really loved this show.
This was a quench for my black mirror hunger. This and love death robots
And RTD's ideas are a circle. 73 yars is just Years and Years but more confusing
"I'm going to review the series until you if it's worth watching."
*Literally spoils everything that happens in the series*
LONG AND LABORIOUS
Omg please do a chuckle vision ep!!
She went on TV instead of streaming online because she wants mainstream votes not young votes.
Ngl, I clicked on this straight away!
The family was insufferably middle class and incredibly entitled throughout. Really dislikable, selfish people. My fridge looks like that all the time too, so that scene is just bizarre. Also, don’t they throw a party with a hired music band literally straight after going into supposed poverty?
The whole series is essentially a dystopia seen from the eyes of an insular London middle class. Heck they even mistakenly call Russia the USSR randomly during a news section in the first episode for no reason. And no the USSR doesn't exist in this timeline as shown by latter mentions of Putin.
@@edwardaugustus9680 could be that Putin is running the USSR in this timeline, I'm pretty sure the intention is that it still does exist in order to explain the communist stuff in countries like Spain in the timeline as well but I found it weird as well
Rosie: Then, let's go and liberate Paris.
Edith: What, you and me, in a van?
Rosie: There's nothing wrong with a van. I once saved my kids with a big food truck.
This show is realistic and it touched every fear and every hope I’ve had with current events. I identified with each character and the ending was a conversation starter. 🥰 Good writer.
22:48 lmaoo
Also would’ve way preferred a dark gritty ending where all of the family was suppressed by the 4 star party
Isn't the actress playing Rosie really have that condition? So she can't act cured when she isn't.
The shock and surprise of the Ukraine/Russian war, when that began in 2021 i believe. Unless i missed something in 2019
And where did Russell get the name Vivienne Rook? She's the journalist killed by the Master in The Sound of the Drums.
I also have to ask, as I've been watching you since 2014, what are your stances politically?
He's pro-universal income so I'd say he's on the left.
Hope so. I'm left as well. Quite far left, so I'd be happy with whatever really.
Rippling? Hahaha!!!
Aaaaaaaaaa, aaaaaaaaaaaa, aaaaaaaaaaa song though.
Everytime that song started to play, I got stressed out! It’s horrible and so hectic and stressful. I know that’s the point but ughh. I hated it 😂
crying over cheese
I think you were too clever and sarcastic about it. It's an excellent show. The fact that you didn't know why "that's so British" is on point speaks about you more than about the show, maybe it would be a great moment for you to investigate that matter instead of discarding it. I get it that the end is a bit cheesy but it is trying to get a point across: the whole series is about fascism. How it is resurfacing all over the planet and (as a character says) we have been on pause for a while. It tries to show that unless there's LOVE, as cheesy as it sounds, it will be forever a trade of mankind. Thats my take on it, anyway. But if you are looking at it though a cynical glass, the whole concept might seem laughable. Fascism is on the rise and everywhere you look. And technology (at least information technology) seems to be its natural ally.
ok
World after 2021? Yeah thats like the series if not worse
Middle class?! 😅
I think your overall take is fine but in the details you are over analyzing things that don't matter and skip over things that do. Also it seems like you didn't really keep your attention levels up throughout the series. Maybe because of the former. But then you admit it in the end:
"It's so abstract that I can't even grasp my head around what's going on anymore" well... sorry that might be a problem. Maybe you are too old or you lack the necessary knowledge to understand what's going on but for me this was all Obvious...
Tbh I liked the show on the whole. I thought the concept was good and it was fairly well executed but it gets wayyyy to cringe and preachy and seems to become more caught up in the politics and ideology rather than what it is entertainment
its a political show? maybe not politics you agree with but a political show can't get "caught up" in politics and ideology, its one of the central themes? its like complaining about a romantic comedy getting caught up in romance and jokes
its telling political stories through the lens of family. if you don't like that element, go watch a soap opera
james84 - I get what ur saying but at the end of the day it’s on the BBC which channels remit is to inform educate and entertain and I would say years and years doesn’t deliver to that. And also something can still be based around politics and get caught up with the ideology of it. It’s the equivalent of a Micheal bay action film just too caught up with one particular aspect rather than emphasising every other aspect
@@ummhwegottaproblem9125 uh that was what one person who has been dead for years said about the bbc? besides, thats not even an argument. you're discussing the show, not the channel it happens to be broadcast on, so words once said by a long dead man are even more irrelevant than usual. saying something is "too political" is the wishy washy way of saying "i dont agree with the politics of this show". what ideology is this show "caught up with" specifically? its a show that was clearly designed with a political message in mind. its an inherent part of it. if you want a show that doesn't force you to confront scary ol' politics and is just "entertainment", stick to eastenders
james84 - jesus this is embarrassing on ur part because 1. I do support the politics the show is trying to get across 2. Just because someone is dead does that automatically incalidate their point? The bbc is a publicly funded channel and should really stay out of biased satire but in contradiction to this point the whole problem I had with the show wasn’t the politics but how preachy it was with the certain political points it was trying to make. I think you missed the point maybe you should go back to watching eastendeds seems to be a little more ur speed
Might need to put a spoiler warning Harry since you covered everything in the series including big plot points
Did you expect him to analyse it without talking about what happened?
the odd duck beforehand it was review in the title so in a way yes. I wasn’t affected as I had watched it but I just thought others who hadn’t seen it might’ve been affected by being no spoiler warning in there, just some foresight would’ve been nice I guess on his part :)
@@gingeygal2392 fair enough
If you didn't want to see spoilers, why would you be watching an analytical review?
Good programme. But reality outtrumped it.
They bottled it in the last episode. Shame
I’ve just thought of a plot hole with the blink tower at the erstwhile camp. Why doesn’t it block the soldiers radio signals? Even if you assume that it doesn’t work on radios for some reason, that still brings up the question of why nobody tried to smuggle radio into the camp to communicate with the outside world and if the radio signals were blocked, then how did the soldiers instantly know that Edith was trying to break Viktor out with the truck?
I use to work in a hospital that jammed cell phone tower signals in the building (for various reasons) so it's definitely possible. Cell phone towers transmit on a higher frequency than the typical 2 way radio device. Also, radio signals only travel a short distance (maybe a few miles) AND the location of the camps were deep in the middle of nowhere. Furthermore, to play devil's advocate, even if they managed to get radio signals outside the camp, communication would be limited to voice only unless they had massive equipment to beam a video out (ex: news vans).
Ngl that finale was cringe as fuck
As a melodrama and dark comedy it's worth watching. As credible drama it was embarrassing.
And tomorrow Pence will probably be president ... lol :S
Another good one Harry. I boycott BBC products so I'm never gonna watch this shit but I still enjoy having you pick it apart for me.
This didn’t age well. Meloni’s in , she could have the “blink” and would be cheered for it. You think people rise up when they are not “them”. Lol
Did anybody else catch the transhumanism agenda or was that just me 🤔
"Basic income. Something very much needed in a world of growing wealth inequality" LOL The naivety of youth.
@matt What? Why?
Hah i dont need an income. I use willpower to feed myself
@@desperatemohammedantheworl5833 oh the arrogance of twats
Compares Viviennne Rook to Farge and Trump. Not a good start.
It's just a statement of fact, she is inspired by those right wing politicians that fake niceness and lie to the public to get votes no matter.
@@tumbleweedfilms6462 Oh, so she was inspired by every single politician ever?
Someone needs to learn about Nye Befan.
Show is stupid.
Literally a progressive's wet dream and "reasoning" as to why it is ok to silence anyone who doesn't agree with them. Watching this show actually turned me more right wing due to how brow beating it was.
one of the worst shows I've ever watched
Nope. Daniel's death is one of the funniest TV moments of 2019.