Hi Ray, these engines are notorious for the cam to eat itself on the roller lifters in the middle cylinder intake valves, resulting in a low compression situation. the head may be fine if no scoring has occured in the journals and a cam and roller lifter replacement, along with an oil flush, may get this vehicles engine a few more years service. You have yourself a good day, and thank you for the content good sir!
@@mikejacob3536it's a good engine except for 2 things the vvt and the oil pump/oil cooling system what causes all the problems. Theirs a salutation to the oiling system ( its an adapter that keeps it primed at all times) it solves all the problems. Baxter Performance Cartridge To Spin-On Oil Filter Adapter - JT/JL/JK 2014+ 3.6L check it out.
Worked as a Lube tech for 14 years. Everyone of these 3.6l engines I've seen has had new heads including the ones my family members have. It is almost as good as the "internal waterpump" on the 2.7L. It's like dodge was doing a speedrun to see how fast the engine can blow up.
Yep, my 2011 200 3.6 had to have a head replacement. Loved the power but they never fully rectified the issues clearly. Went with Ford and thus far been happy.
I have not seen you perform a leak down test as well as a compression test. I was taught to perform a leak down test if I suspected valve/seat issues or piston sealing problems. We always did a leak down test after any head or piston work just to verify all was good. Love the channel, very informative.
I am just playing armchair mechanic here. If it was my call, I would advise customer and suggest they drive the car as normal for about a week and return it for further testing. My reasoning is that since the injector spray pattern was not cleaning the one valve well, that there is a chance that there is carbon buildup on the seat that was not able to be cleaned off during your diagnosis. running the engine with a good injector for a while may clear it up on its own over time. Might as well try it Ray since if has a burnt valve the damage is already done, you can't really make it any more expensive to fix by letting it go for a week.
Thanks a million for posting this follow-up Ray, I appreciate you not leaving us viewers hanging. Would a leak-down test on all 6 cylinders be worthwhile in your pro opinion if the owner signs off on the slight upcharge? Thanks again. 👍
Be interesting to see what the compression is like on the front cylinders as compared to the back ones. If the front head has been replaced they should be a good benchmark . Even the 120 readings seamed a bit low
As a teen the only way I could have a car was to fix it myself. Later in life one fine day I bought my first new car out of a dealership. What an amazing day that was. The weird thing was getting it home, parking it and wondering what to do next. There was for the first time for me nothing one my vehicle that needed fixing, it was almost an anticlimax. Just getting out of the car, locking it and walking away, instead of having to pop the hood or whatever to check or repair bits was really odd at first. So the idea of selling that resonated with me.
There are millions of adults simultaneously thinking it's their story too.Knowing what the hell is going on when your old bomb quits- can save buckets of money, time and aggravation- and a chance (slim) that you can get her going This is not the way to proceed today.UA-cam videos of people doing repairs themselves, and then causing horrible accidents Today's cars need a DIagnostic Scanner to see what system on the bus is alerting the money lights.
@@dddevildogg luckily for me, my old Dad was a WWII UK REME vehicle mechanic and later a mechanic trainer in the UK Army. He taught me how to be a mechanic too. I can fix anything on a car, not that I want to anymore though.
I was going to say "Tee, Hee...Chrysler isn't going to take responsibility - after the fact, even if it IS their fault (they designed it, they built it)" Then I go into comments and find many others saying the same thing. Have a good day, Sir Ray
Hi Troy🙂 *waves back* Thanks for the follow up video Ray. Even though Mopar has the TSB on the opposite banks head, I wonder how many have had the same issue on the opposite head. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander ya know. Hopefully all turns out well for the owner and the car.
Great job Ray on the diagnosis of the engine. Sounds like a typical manufacturer not wanting to repair a known issue or only do part of it. Especially when they only will repair the cyclinders in the front and not the hard ones in the back.
The warranty extension you referenced (X56) is only applicable to 2011-2013 models. The engine in this Pacifica is a 3rd gen 3.6L (AKA Pentastar Upgrade or "PUG" for short) whereas those are gen 1 engines. The PUG engines have a completely different valvetrain than the 1st and 2nd gen engines. Valvetrain/rocker "ticker" failures are very rare in the PUG engines as a result.
I'm getting the same rndom p0300 that comes and goes every few times i drive it on my 2017 pacifica. If my reader is right it shows low # of misfires on 2, 4 and 6. Having 105k on it I installed new iridium plugs and all new Bosch coils. Still have the off and on misfire. Usually at start up. Cold or hot. Any ideas where to look next?
my dealer told me that they changed 4 bad rockers and it was still ticking and I looked at the valve covers and they never took them off. Still had original RTV sealant and dirt around it. I showed the manager said how did they do it when the valve covers were never taken off. There should be new RTv on a couple spots before the valve cover goes back on.
This reminds me of a clip I saw a while back stating that burnt out valves is starting to be a more common phenomena in newer vehicle and not something relegated to the past and older carburettor and manual ignition equipped vehicles. Back in the day it was due to either the fuel was too lean and would burn hotter or the ignition timing was too far advanced causing detonation of the fuel or a bit of both these reasons but computer controlled fuelling and ignition timing saw the decline of this occurrence becoming something unheard of but as new higher constraints on fuel emissions being introduced by the government in a bid to become more environmentally friendly we are reaching a point that leaner computer controlled fuelling and more advanced ignition timing are reaching a point that even with these advanced systems to give us more bang for our buck they too are reaching a point that these conditions are causing valves to become worn/damaged over time and are burning out and there is nothing they can do to prevent this. New/future material R&D may be the next step in the way to try and stem this from occurring but this just means that things will cost more for the consumer and may be deemed uneconomical compared to replacing the cylinder head/heads or stripping the heads and replacing the valves and valve seats, thus may be negated by converting to E.V.'s as most governments are trying to push us in the direction of. (May be a good thing as these countries as well as the U.S. are becoming more dependant on imports from foreign countries and then can be held hostage over pricing for these fuels!!). I still think that alcohol or biodiesels would be a better solution to the production of rare earth minerals required for E.V.'s as this is not environmentally friendly and are also a big import from foreign countries that can also keep countries held hostage to the pricing and importation of these materials!!. Big changes and bold decisions are going to be something that's going to effect governments and consumers in the very near future and we are all going to have to be onbord with the decisions made and we are all going to have to be agreed on the future steps taken in a bid to prevent the erosion of democracy or freedom of thought. (Sounds like a campaign slogan for the next presidential or democratic leader but no its not me lol) I know this was a deep dive but I just wanted to explain a bit about the relevance to the topic at hand (those burnt valves are heavy man!! lol) but a bit of a tangent that is unfortunately going to change in the near future and it will effect us all at the end of the day. Maybe some new and exciting changes coming our way, we'll see ... just saying ... lol
Seems to be leaking at the head. It only happened at startups, presumably as the engine gets warm it expands at plugs the gap. Could also explain the smoke in the previous video, leaking coolant? The "exhaust gas in coolant test" may rule it out, the one that turns from blue to green if there is exhaust gases there.
Wife's 2018 journey with same engine as this one had the same issue, they said it was the cam shaft . Sins it got replaced never had a problem with it. Unfortunately van just got totaled in an accident about a month ago.
There are many law suits against Chrysler for this exact problem, the #3 valve cracks after the roller fails and the head must be replaced. I just had my jeep head replaced and joined a class action suite to try to get reimbursed by Chrysler Fiat or whoever they are called this week. Good luck. The extended warranty is very narrow in it's application.
Sometimes troubleshooting is just that... eliminate everything else. I have been in electronic component level troubleshooting most all my life.... same thing.
I had a 3.6L penastar , 100K on he clock, 2017 with #2 misfire with a shaky engine at idle. Scan showed #2 miss firing on idle only. off idle is fine. some other shop changed plugs, put in Champions!. i swapped out 2 & 4 coils, new NGK plugs, resistant checked 3 inj, all good. Ran kinda lumpy and check eng light came on with same misfire. I decided to go through cam, crank relearn, also phaser cleaning on scanner. Bingo electrical missfire disappeared. I didnt have a compression adaptor for this eng , so im suspecting carboned stuck rings, valvles, ect I added ounce marvles mystry oil to the oil and fuel and will run that for 1k miles then change oil. at that time if the engine still shakes, then its ready for a carbon clean job.
Hey Rainman, I’ve had two of these in the past year have cyl 3 misfires on startup, one of them the customer also noticed the coolant level slightly going down. It ended up being a warped head and after letting it sit over night pressurized, cyl 3 had had obvious coolant leakage. I haven’t seen any of the 3.6 upgrade engines have the rocker arm failures like the original 3.6. Yet anyways. There’s still time lol
It's roughly going to cost the customer between $4000 to $4500 to repair and replace. I have a 2012 dodge grand caravan with the 3.6 pentastar and cylinder number 1 dropped a valve seat and my local shop thought it might be covered but that coverage is 10year 150,000 miles and that's on both heads if I remember correctly. The extended warranty ran out 6 month before the issue so bbn I HAD to pay $4200 for mine.
Damn I thought the valve seats were only an issue on 3.7, 4.7,5.7&6.1 engines that 3.6 was supposed to have fixed all the issues that the V8's had unbelievable
I could swear that I saw a creepy face reflected on the scanner while we were watching for a misfire. It would have been to your right, that's how I know it wasn't you pranking us.
Would love to see a relative compression test on this cold and then hot. Have seen carbon on valve stem buildup cause the valve not to seat fully when cold but when hot the carbon softens and allows valve to close fully. A good soak of GM top engine cleaner when hot and the run a can thru with it running may help some. You never showed misfires on a fully heated engine. If it’s only cold but not hot it is most likely a carbon issue or lifter issue. Compression doesn’t come and go with temp differential with say a worn cam lobe.
have the client take it to doge and see if they will cover the repair there are cases where they will cover this even though it is on the opposite side
the tsb is actually for the rear head by the firewall. not the front. i work in a chrysler dealer for 9 years now. its the head by the firewall. trust me. its always the rear head.
I guess I'm lucky. I've never had a Chrysler engine fail me. I've owned nothing but Chrysler products since 1984 and put 200K+ miles on each. The wife's 3.6 runs like new with 155K miles on it. No leaks, no burning oil.
Had a brand new dodge grand caravan company car with same problem, it was not a week old and the check engine light was on. Dodge replaced the head and it ran like a top.
I have no experience of these, so maybe speaking out of turn here, but after watching the last video I got to wondering about the low compression. If there’s a bad tappet( lifter, in the US?), or the cam lobes are worn, the cylinder won’t receive a full charge, so won’t reach full compression, even with good valves and piston rings.
It is officially Stellantis. FCA (Fiat/Chrysler) merged with Peugeot in 2021 and formed the Stellantis name. Yes, there is a long list under this name.
Ok a confirmed kill there Ray ty for the update mate, let us know what the owner decides to do as the rest of the vehicle is in great shape so would be sad to just get rid of it. Keep Safe Keep Strong 🦘🦘🦘🦘❤❤
Please try this before condemning it. At under 1/4 tank fuel level, add some very strong fuel system cleaner (enough to treat like 18 gallons) and drive it for 10 miles. Fill the tank and drive it for around 5 miles. Rescan. I've done this on many gm engines (especially the quad4) with the same condition and it cleared the problem. More than likely it's just carbon on the valve lip and seat.
Yeah, that was my comment i just made, too. It is amazing what the mechanic in a can can do. Saved me many thousands, not having Land Rover from replacing a head on my discovery that had a cold misfire
if an extreme buildup of carbon is seen, would a sea foam treatment be in order? And with the extreme number of "bad" new parts that appear more frequently, would you want to test the new injector to ensure its legitimacy? Great followup video. Have a great weekend!
I worked for a company that had 170 Ford vans. The gas powered ones (about half) were sea foamed every 40k regardless of troubles reported and if a misfire or skip was detected it was the very first thing to do anyway. Carbon buildup was very bad in these vehicles. It cured a surprising number of these failures.
The problem with these engines is there is no “one” type of failure for a mis fire. It could be a fuel injector, coil, plug, cam/rockers, burnt valve! Once you think you’ve found a failure pattern then you are into another failure.
A cheap attempt in cleaning those possible dirty valves would be your famous Induction Cleaning. Perhaps you'll get lucky and enough of carbon can be cleaned from the valve seats. Afterwards perform an Italian Tune Up to Finish the job.
What is the difference between banks that the factory covered repair is only bank 2. Wouldn't a design or mechanical problem affect both banks equally?
Why not bare bones it? Inspect cyl 3 valves/seats, min cleanup if enough material and put back together? If cracks on valve just replace that one valve (or seat if applicable?
Hi Ray, these engines are notorious for the cam to eat itself on the roller lifters in the middle cylinder intake valves, resulting in a low compression situation. the head may be fine if no scoring has occured in the journals and a cam and roller lifter replacement, along with an oil flush, may get this vehicles engine a few more years service. You have yourself a good day, and thank you for the content good sir!
Does anyone build a 3.6L engine that ISN'T 💩?
@@mikejacob3536 Porsche, Volkswagen [VR6] and, Subaru's EZ36
Even the Landrover V6 has a habit of snapping it’s crank shaft,
Bmw straight 6 is a far superior block.
@@mikejacob3536it's a good engine except for 2 things the vvt and the oil pump/oil cooling system what causes all the problems. Theirs a salutation to the oiling system ( its an adapter that keeps it primed at all times) it solves all the problems. Baxter Performance Cartridge To Spin-On Oil Filter Adapter - JT/JL/JK 2014+ 3.6L check it out.
Hey Ray, thanks for the update. Cheers! Ron.
Worked as a Lube tech for 14 years. Everyone of these 3.6l engines I've seen has had new heads including the ones my family members have. It is almost as good as the "internal waterpump" on the 2.7L. It's like dodge was doing a speedrun to see how fast the engine can blow up.
Yep, my 2011 200 3.6 had to have a head replacement. Loved the power but they never fully rectified the issues clearly. Went with Ford and thus far been happy.
Good to see Troy, I was starting to worry that he didn't work there anymore
me too.
I have not seen you perform a leak down test as well as a compression test. I was taught to perform a leak down test if I suspected valve/seat issues or piston sealing problems. We always did a leak down test after any head or piston work just to verify all was good. Love the channel, very informative.
I am just playing armchair mechanic here. If it was my call, I would advise customer and suggest they drive the car as normal for about a week and return it for further testing. My reasoning is that since the injector spray pattern was not cleaning the one valve well, that there is a chance that there is carbon buildup on the seat that was not able to be cleaned off during your diagnosis. running the engine with a good injector for a while may clear it up on its own over time. Might as well try it Ray since if has a burnt valve the damage is already done, you can't really make it any more expensive to fix by letting it go for a week.
The Q in Chrysler stands for quality...
Chrysler is the poor mans mercedes.... the VERY poor mans.
About 1980 on Chrysler went precipitously downhill. Remember the K cars? Absolute garbage!
Thanks I really needed a good laugh. Best shit I heard all day. I'm working on one of these POS right now. Has low compression cyl. 2
Thanks a million for posting this follow-up Ray, I appreciate you not leaving us viewers hanging. Would a leak-down test on all 6 cylinders be worthwhile in your pro opinion if the owner signs off on the slight upcharge? Thanks again. 👍
Be interesting to see what the compression is like on the front cylinders as compared to the back ones. If the front head has been replaced they should be a good benchmark . Even the 120 readings seamed a bit low
You can always do a leakdown test to see where it's leaking from and which valve.
Thanks for the update. I'm Always watching for you to get back to us, your viewers. You're the greatest 💯
Hi Troy!!!!! Love the goofy enthusiastic wave ge gave😂 Shame for the pacifica owner, looks well taken care of.
Good day to you, Ray.
Nice follow-up video. It's great to know what's happening after the main diag videos.
Keep up the good work, sir!
Hey Ray, just wanted to say you're awesome, your vids are very informative and i wish i could've met you on my trip to Florida a few years ago!
As a teen the only way I could have a car was to fix it myself. Later in life one fine day I bought my first new car out of a dealership. What an amazing day that was. The weird thing was getting it home, parking it and wondering what to do next. There was for the first time for me nothing one my vehicle that needed fixing, it was almost an anticlimax. Just getting out of the car, locking it and walking away, instead of having to pop the hood or whatever to check or repair bits was really odd at first. So the idea of selling that resonated with me.
There are millions of adults simultaneously thinking it's their story too.Knowing what the hell is going on when your old bomb quits- can save buckets of money, time and aggravation- and a chance (slim) that you can get her going
This is not the way to proceed today.UA-cam videos of people doing repairs themselves, and then causing horrible accidents Today's cars need a DIagnostic Scanner to see what system on the bus is alerting the money lights.
@@dddevildogg luckily for me, my old Dad was a WWII UK REME vehicle mechanic and later a mechanic trainer in the UK Army. He taught me how to be a mechanic too. I can fix anything on a car, not that I want to anymore though.
You are the rarest of things : an Honest Technician!
Glad to see a Pacifica in the shop. I have a used 2020; so far, so good!
I was going to say "Tee, Hee...Chrysler isn't going to take responsibility - after the fact, even if it IS their fault (they designed it, they built it)" Then I go into comments and find many others saying the same thing.
Have a good day, Sir Ray
Thanks for the follow up Ray. You were very in depth before but that compression was concerning.
Hi Troy🙂 *waves back* Thanks for the follow up video Ray. Even though Mopar has the TSB on the opposite banks head, I wonder how many have had the same issue on the opposite head. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander ya know. Hopefully all turns out well for the owner and the car.
Thanks for the follow up Ray👍
Thanks Ray for the update.
❤ Love to see Roy again. Ray good time 😊
thankyou Ray,an interesting follow up,,see you in the next one,,👍👍
I watch your other channel with my coffee. It’s a little too early for beer to watch this channel.😎ahhhh nice and cold
Thanks for the update!!!😃
Thanks for the follow up. Makes me wonder what the customer will decide.
It would cost more to repair than it is worth. Sell it now and move on.
Great job Ray on the diagnosis of the engine. Sounds like a typical manufacturer not wanting to repair a known issue or only do part of it. Especially when they only will repair the cyclinders in the front and not the hard ones in the back.
Great video
In cylinder pressure waveform would confirm uneven compression and valvetrain issue ie cam lobe and follower 😊
Hi Troy , I love those boots . :)
Hey, Castor Troy is back in the shop!
The warranty extension you referenced (X56) is only applicable to 2011-2013 models. The engine in this Pacifica is a 3rd gen 3.6L (AKA Pentastar Upgrade or "PUG" for short) whereas those are gen 1 engines. The PUG engines have a completely different valvetrain than the 1st and 2nd gen engines. Valvetrain/rocker "ticker" failures are very rare in the PUG engines as a result.
I'm getting the same rndom p0300 that comes and goes every few times i drive it on my 2017 pacifica. If my reader is right it shows low # of misfires on 2, 4 and 6. Having 105k on it I installed new iridium plugs and all new Bosch coils. Still have the off and on misfire. Usually at start up. Cold or hot. Any ideas where to look next?
@@jimjaques4030 a compression test will give you a pretty quick answer.
my dealer told me that they changed 4 bad rockers and it was still ticking and I looked at the valve covers and they never took them off. Still had original RTV sealant and dirt around it. I showed the manager said how did they do it when the valve covers were never taken off. There should be new RTv on a couple spots before the valve cover goes back on.
Troy's alive!
Thanks Ray
Castor Troy!!!!!! Legend👍👍👍
When I see FCA, I Fear, Cry and get Angry!
This reminds me of a clip I saw a while back stating that burnt out valves is starting to be a more common phenomena in newer vehicle and not something relegated to the past and older carburettor and manual ignition equipped vehicles.
Back in the day it was due to either the fuel was too lean and would burn hotter or the ignition timing was too far advanced causing detonation of the fuel or a bit of both these reasons but computer controlled fuelling and ignition timing saw the decline of this occurrence becoming something unheard of but as new higher constraints on fuel emissions being introduced by the government in a bid to become more environmentally friendly we are reaching a point that leaner computer controlled fuelling and more advanced ignition timing are reaching a point that even with these advanced systems to give us more bang for our buck they too are reaching a point that these conditions are causing valves to become worn/damaged over time and are burning out and there is nothing they can do to prevent this.
New/future material R&D may be the next step in the way to try and stem this from occurring but this just means that things will cost more for the consumer and may be deemed uneconomical compared to replacing the cylinder head/heads or stripping the heads and replacing the valves and valve seats, thus may be negated by converting to E.V.'s as most governments are trying to push us in the direction of. (May be a good thing as these countries as well as the U.S. are becoming more dependant on imports from foreign countries and then can be held hostage over pricing for these fuels!!).
I still think that alcohol or biodiesels would be a better solution to the production of rare earth minerals required for E.V.'s as this is not environmentally friendly and are also a big import from foreign countries that can also keep countries held hostage to the pricing and importation of these materials!!.
Big changes and bold decisions are going to be something that's going to effect governments and consumers in the very near future and we are all going to have to be onbord with the decisions made and we are all going to have to be agreed on the future steps taken in a bid to prevent the erosion of democracy or freedom of thought.
(Sounds like a campaign slogan for the next presidential or democratic leader but no its not me lol) I know this was a deep dive but I just wanted to explain a bit about the relevance to the topic at hand (those burnt valves are heavy man!! lol) but a bit of a tangent that is unfortunately going to change in the near future and it will effect us all at the end of the day.
Maybe some new and exciting changes coming our way, we'll see ... just saying ... lol
Seems to be leaking at the head. It only happened at startups, presumably as the engine gets warm it expands at plugs the gap. Could also explain the smoke in the previous video, leaking coolant? The "exhaust gas in coolant test" may rule it out, the one that turns from blue to green if there is exhaust gases there.
@5:40 "End of Chrysler". Well said!!! :)
Wife's 2018 journey with same engine as this one had the same issue, they said it was the cam shaft .
Sins it got replaced never had a problem with it.
Unfortunately van just got totaled in an accident about a month ago.
HIII TROY.......HE IS ALIVE
There are many law suits against Chrysler for this exact problem, the #3 valve cracks after the roller fails and the head must be replaced. I just had my jeep head replaced and joined a class action suite to try to get reimbursed by Chrysler Fiat or whoever they are called this week. Good luck. The extended warranty is very narrow in it's application.
We all like to see a happy Troy.
Hi Troy!
Troy was waving like Forest Gump.
Sometimes troubleshooting is just that... eliminate everything else. I have been in electronic component level troubleshooting most all my life.... same thing.
That sucks. Interested to see if the move forward.
My mechanic warned me about the 3.6, I have had almost 300,000 on a 3.8 and a 3.3
I had a 3.6L penastar , 100K on he clock, 2017 with #2 misfire with a shaky engine at idle. Scan showed #2 miss firing on idle only. off idle is fine. some other shop changed plugs, put in Champions!. i swapped out 2 & 4 coils, new NGK plugs, resistant checked 3 inj, all good. Ran kinda lumpy and check eng light came on with same misfire. I decided to go through cam, crank relearn, also phaser cleaning on scanner. Bingo electrical missfire disappeared. I didnt have a compression adaptor for this eng , so im suspecting carboned stuck rings, valvles, ect I added ounce marvles mystry oil to the oil and fuel and will run that for 1k miles then change oil. at that time if the engine still shakes, then its ready for a carbon clean job.
Do a leak down test to confirm valve issue
Welcoming back!
Hi Troy!!!
Hey Rainman, I’ve had two of these in the past year have cyl 3 misfires on startup, one of them the customer also noticed the coolant level slightly going down. It ended up being a warped head and after letting it sit over night pressurized, cyl 3 had had obvious coolant leakage. I haven’t seen any of the 3.6 upgrade engines have the rocker arm failures like the original 3.6. Yet anyways. There’s still time lol
I have the exact same problem. It was bad and getting worse. The coolant level will drop as well. Going to try Seafoam. There is nothing to lose.
It's roughly going to cost the customer between $4000 to $4500 to repair and replace. I have a 2012 dodge grand caravan with the 3.6 pentastar and cylinder number 1 dropped a valve seat and my local shop thought it might be covered but that coverage is 10year 150,000 miles and that's on both heads if I remember correctly. The extended warranty ran out 6 month before the issue so bbn I HAD to pay $4200 for mine.
Damn I thought the valve seats were only an issue on 3.7, 4.7,5.7&6.1 engines that 3.6 was supposed to have fixed all the issues that the V8's had unbelievable
Pentastar/Maserati what a combo
2012 300 with the Pentastar almost 200K on her and she runs great.
I could swear that I saw a creepy face reflected on the scanner while we were watching for a misfire. It would have been to your right, that's how I know it wasn't you pranking us.
Hi Troy 👋
Would love to see a relative compression test on this cold and then hot. Have seen carbon on valve stem buildup cause the valve not to seat fully when cold but when hot the carbon softens and allows valve to close fully. A good soak of GM top engine cleaner when hot and the run a can thru with it running may help some. You never showed misfires on a fully heated engine. If it’s only cold but not hot it is most likely a carbon issue or lifter issue. Compression doesn’t come and go with temp differential with say a worn cam lobe.
Very interesting…
have the client take it to doge and see if they will cover the repair there are cases where they will cover this even though it is on the opposite side
Pull the valve cover, check the rockers and lifters...they wear and can cause carbon build up and fouled or bent valves...ask me how i know...
the tsb is actually for the rear head by the firewall. not the front. i work in a chrysler dealer for 9 years now. its the head by the firewall. trust me. its always the rear head.
Forrest? Is that you? oh my bad its just Troy 😂
Hi troy !!!!!!
Hi Troy 🙋♂
I guess I'm lucky. I've never had a Chrysler engine fail me. I've owned nothing but Chrysler products since 1984 and put 200K+ miles on each. The wife's 3.6 runs like new with 155K miles on it. No leaks, no burning oil.
Had a brand new dodge grand caravan company car with same problem, it was not a week old and the check engine light was on. Dodge replaced the head and it ran like a top.
Had the same issue with my 2015 Chrysler 200, cylinder 4 had a leaky exhaust valve, had to replace the head.
Hey Troy🙋♂️🙋♂️🙋♂️🙋♂️
I would still contact Stellantis(Chrysler etc) before proceeding.
Little did he know…………….
It's running..just drive it
Castor Troy Whooooooo 😂
Good follow up shame it didn't get fixed but hey head needs repair it happens its a Chrysler 😂 5:34
Hi, Troy
Pacifica….well Pacifica is still Pacifica…😅 (from cyberpunk) how I feel when I dive into/out of one at times. 😂
I have no experience of these, so maybe speaking out of turn here, but after watching the last video I got to wondering about the low compression. If there’s a bad tappet( lifter, in the US?), or the cam lobes are worn, the cylinder won’t receive a full charge, so won’t reach full compression, even with good valves and piston rings.
It is officially Stellantis. FCA (Fiat/Chrysler) merged with Peugeot in 2021 and formed the Stellantis name. Yes, there is a long list under this name.
Ok a confirmed kill there Ray ty for the update mate, let us know what the owner decides to do as the rest of the vehicle is in great shape so would be sad to just get rid of it.
Keep Safe Keep Strong 🦘🦘🦘🦘❤❤
Please try this before condemning it. At under 1/4 tank fuel level, add some very strong fuel system cleaner (enough to treat like 18 gallons) and drive it for 10 miles. Fill the tank and drive it for around 5 miles. Rescan. I've done this on many gm engines (especially the quad4) with the same condition and it cleared the problem. More than likely it's just carbon on the valve lip and seat.
Yeah, that was my comment i just made, too. It is amazing what the mechanic in a can can do. Saved me many thousands, not having Land Rover from replacing a head on my discovery that had a cold misfire
Than the Cats and O2 sensors tank.
You get your info from tiktok and google? It does not hurt the cats and o2 sensors.@@Philip-sz6mj
Hi Troy
I wonder if these vans can live up to the Legendary
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Peugeot are our current overlords in Mopar land
Troy reminded me of Forrest Gump in this video 😂
TROY! hey!
Yeah, bank 3 is not under warranty coverage
That's to bad . Burned valve . Hi Troy.
if an extreme buildup of carbon is seen, would a sea foam treatment be in order? And with the extreme number of "bad" new parts that appear more frequently, would you want to test the new injector to ensure its legitimacy? Great followup video. Have a great weekend!
I have the exact same problem. The engine is shot as far as I’m concerned. I’m going to try Seafoam I have nothing to lose. Great idea.
I worked for a company that had 170 Ford vans. The gas powered ones (about half) were sea foamed every 40k regardless of troubles reported and if a misfire or skip was detected it was the very first thing to do anyway. Carbon buildup was very bad in these vehicles. It cured a surprising number of these failures.
The problem with these engines is there is no “one” type of failure for a mis fire. It could be a fuel injector, coil, plug, cam/rockers, burnt valve! Once you think you’ve found a failure pattern then you are into another failure.
I think a good hot lap and then rechecking it cold would be wise in case the funky fuel injector had washed down the cylinder.
Also, how was the hurricane? Did you put out any videos other than the first one where you are sitting in your pik up bed?
Hi Troy for the 16th time, I’d try the engine cleaner
you forgot drive it till it blows up
Stellantis......
A cheap attempt in cleaning those possible dirty valves would be your famous Induction Cleaning. Perhaps you'll get lucky and enough of carbon can be cleaned from the valve seats. Afterwards perform an Italian Tune Up to Finish the job.
Trade in time if the owner can
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What is the difference between banks that the factory covered repair is only bank 2. Wouldn't a design or mechanical problem affect both banks equally?
Why not bare bones it? Inspect cyl 3 valves/seats, min cleanup if enough material and put back together? If cracks on valve just replace that one valve (or seat if applicable?