If you haven’t played it yet, sith inquisitor female is the best story from start to finish through all the content as they are the guardian of sith relics which means you are canonically in swtor the main character lol
one of the coolest things about the sith stuff is honestly being a "good guy" and seeing how light side people end up falling to the dark side due to immense hatred and distrust towards you, it shows ALOT of stuff that you wouldn't see otherwise
One of the best moments of any class story was driving Jaesa's master mad whilst Jaesa realized you as a Sith have more light in you than her master, a Jedi.
That was always my favorite path. I'm a bounty hunter main, but playing alight side sith who taps into their emotion while remaining in control of it, is a very cool play through. Everyone is shocked and it really highlights the 'evil' of the old Jedi path (Luke's order changed that). I also like the feel of the combat around their style. It feels like 'rage unleashed'. Probably the second best class story behind the imperial agent.
Light Side Sith Warrior here. it's always a treat to see the gobsmacked expression on Jedi's faces when they encounter my character. You can see the gears grind to a halt in their heads as they try to process it.
Playing a light side sith is imo, the best way to play the game. How I did it was having a generally dark side sith who treats those beneath him fairly well, before fully accepting the light side on Tatooine when you go into the force cave. You get more focus on the tragedy of the sith via literally everyone being surprised at you being a semi-decent human being (or whichever species you picked), you get not only to pick apart the sith for their general shittiness but also the Jedi for their general closed-mindedness (like, twice in the just the first chapter, you drive a jedi mad by not immediately trying to kill them, even goading one by living up to the Jedi Code better than they are iirc). On top of all of that, you get a much better narrative contrast against Baras.
The concern trolling you can do as a light side sith only ever worked on the weak jedi throughout the story the masters and the one kight in the ambush can see your geuine if your doing a true lightside playthrough not really "seeing through the jedi lies" as much as weeding out the weaker ones
Anddd you still get to mess with people. The whole "I'm an evil Sith. You will join me. Not because of fear but because I treat you right and pay well" It's felt like Obi-Wan Kenobi trolling everyone and everything in the galaxy with chad sith energy 😂
What I always found interesting is the factions. If you did right by the SITH Empire forces, than you went light side. If you did right by the republic forces, you went dark side. Lines blurred, cool foreshadowing
If you play a Light Side version of this class you'll get an uncorrupted Jayca. It's your alignment to the light side that drives her master insane and causes her to join you.
Actually, your alignment is not related to Jaesa's. Her alignment is literally decided by the final answer you pick after Nomen Karr's defeat. These appropriately award LS/DS points. But have no alignment requirement. So Light V SW can have Dark Jaesa. And Dark V SW can have Light Jaesa.
@@tywinlannister8015 One of the choices is actually affected by your alignment. "Use your power on me." If Dark Side, she senses Darkness and goes Dark Side, Light Side she senses Honor and even Kindness, stays the path.
@@ShadowWolfRising That comes earlier in the conversation actually, and has no bearing on the final outcome. The final outcome really is decided by what you tell Jaesa just before Nomen Karr's fate is decided.
@@ShadowWolfRising If you tell Jaesa to kill him, she becomes Sith...if you spare him and send him back to the Jedi council (as mine did, I thought I was mocking them, "look what I can do to your masters!") she will remain light. And...as long as SHE doesn't kill Karr - she stays Light.
All classes have something that throws you out of the loop for them to be interesting: -Sith warrior: Playing lightside is hilarious both in a comical way and philophical way -Sith inquisitor: the story that you get and the implications of all the characters that you meet(i am looking at your ghost of Kallig), For Inquisitor all the names and character bring stuff from the KOTOR and the legacy of those characters -Bounty hunter: Joining Mandalore and how your character changes his responses to anything related to Mandalorian Culture(including the Mandalore chapter in KOTFE and the 7.2 planet) -Agent: Playing Loyalist, Playing Double Agent, Playing Hand of Jadus cant comment on Rep classes but so far the Jedi knight has a lot of repercussions for showing mercy or not and the same for the Trooper
the trooper story can be nice if you play it like an action movie. YOU are the biggest badest MFer around and you always going in blastin OR you do the completly boring military stuff "yes sir" and it becomes tedious after chapter 1
Let's admit, we love empire stories because of all those cheesy villain punchlines that flatter our inner power fantaisies. It's awesome and we need more games like that.
I personally love how the post base game story feels like a continuation of the Sith Warrior story. To me it doesn't feel like your a brute, or less capable than your master's were. But instead that you are the physical embodiment of wrath and power. To those that cross you, you are the unflinching predator at their throats. To those that would seek to chain you, you are the herald of their death and destruction. A being that even a Sith God like Tenebrae fears.
For me the Sith Warrior storyline is the best due to being consistent. You meet Baras at your training, and through the 3 Acts he will become your nemesis. The entire story shows this relationship. For all the other classes, their nemeses only appear in later Acts. As for the Inquisitor, their story felt like you were always helped by others around you. Zash was partial to you due to having visions of you. You could only get the Deshade due to being given extra information the other candidates didn't have. You could only defeat the Deshade due to it being severly weakened. You could only survive Zash' betrayal due to the Deshade bound to you. You could only survive Thanaton's trial due to having a ghost of your ancestor teach you stuff. Zash' former apprentices, Rakata Mother, random Moffs out of nowhere, every time someone appeared to save your ass.
I think that's part of the class fantasy, though. Sith Inquisitor is literally just that. They are an Inquisitor, searching for hidden, forbidden knowledge and manipulating others to enhance their power and destroy their foes. Sith Warriors don't care about that, they just want to foster inner strength and power within themselves by any means necessary. It's a cool dichotomy.
Playing SWTOR while watching a Nixxiom video about SWTOR is the life. 😎 If Sith Warrior felt slow to you, Marauder is a LOT faster and required a lot more buttons to push in relatively quick succesion. Have you played Imperial Agent yet? It is considered (one of) the best stories in the game.
Yup, main reason why I quit playing after KotFE and KotET. They completely trashed class power-fantasy and uniqueness to streamline the story and made everything so same-same. I'll never understand why this happened. The start of KotFE (Vitiate entering your mind) will never, ever make sense for any character that isn't a Sith Warrior or Jedi Knight and you can't convince me otherwise.
@@__jojo__well... I agree on the non-Force classes, but not the other two. Consular is the one that saved the Republic, not the Knight. Consular turned the tides of war and held massive influence, and was even commanding, over half of the Republic's forces. The Consular is also the one that weakened Vitiate the most in order for the Knight to face him. They took out all of the Children, either by killing them, sending a Shockwave through the Force to him, or by severing them from him, locking off huge chunks of his power. Kotxx is something the Consular has sorta already done. Not to mention they're a massive powerhouse, performing feats we don't see repeated until Vaylin shows up, like ripping through blast doors with a single Force Push. They're also the only one that starts off OP, story wise, and actually becomes weaker, yet does all of those amazing things. The First Son had a ridiculous amount of Vitiate's power. That was the primary back up avatar. Inquisitor is heir to a lost bloodline, and even on first awakening is so powerful that just grasping a Force conduit (their lightsaber), was enough to send ripples through the Force to affect the ghosts of ancient Sith Lords on another planet, already shrouded by the Emperor's power. They possess a rare ability that Vitiate doesn't have, that opened a path to immortality even better than his own. Inquisitor dies and can get right back up. Vitiate needs to find another body, and that could take years, or needs massive amounts of death to feed off and recover quicker. He's not able to Forcewalk. His form of immortality comes at a greater price as well. Inquisitor wasn't weak, just lacked the experience and knowledge the Lords and Darths had that targeted them. Zach also wasn't teaching them, really, Kallig was their true master. The Inquisitor also remade their very body, first becoming immune to poisons, toxins and even radiation, then even remaking their very body to be superior, in every way, and able to contain unnatural levels of power. Add into that, they also have machines and arrays that can increase their life span. They even climbed to the top of the Empire without his influence. They made themselves, while the other three Force classes became what they were by being attached to Vitiate in some way. The Inquisitor is a very real threat to Vitiate by being able to bind him as well (and stupid that we don't even get an option to try and they say it failed because he's too strong or something). Inquistor's actions in the Dark Temple also created ripples that disrupted the ritual Vitiate was doing and weakened him further for the Knight. It honestly makes more sense for Vitiate to go for Inquisitor > Consular > Knight >>> Warrior to me. Warrior was fun and all but they weren't the real Wrath. That was Scourge. He built up the rep. Warrior just reaped benefits and seemed like a choice of convenience. Someone needed to stop Baras, they were in a position, and had motive, to do so. The Hand even reprimanded them from takin action on their own or using the name of Wrath without permission. Scourge spoke directly with the Emperor, we did not. With what we know of Vitiate, how meticulous he is and all, the prophecy surrounding the Knight, Scourge's betrayal and all, I can see him trying to go for the Knight, but not like that. The Battlemaster had already broken his control once before, and defeated him in a duel. He wouldn't try the same thing again, especially when his existence actually depended on it. But the Warrior being the Wrath is so overhyped. We don't get the immortality, power boost, seat of power, nothing. We only got the name. Vitiate never really saw us as his Wrath.
@@Theinen84 Completely disagree on you undermining the Knight here, the Consular did do all of that stuff but you seem to be a bit biased as someone who would main that class. Corellia is something any class can do, so not all of Consular's feats are theirs. On top of that while yes consular did soften the emperor for the knight, it was still prophecied for the knight to stop the emperor and at the end of the day defeating the emperor is a more impressive feat than any of the singular children. Knights and Warriors also do similar feats like the blast door one(Warrior for example not only opens a blast door with the force and with relative ease, they do it while a jedi is on the other side trying to keep it closed, and this is right after the tutorial planet). And while the consular was more of a strategist commanding the republic forces, Knight was a precision powerhouse that went around singlehandedly changing the fates of planets, or soloing entire warships and so on. Consular is a strategist while Knight was the crown jewel of the jedi that was deployed for the highest stakes missions and also commanded the republic on a ground level often. The knight also happens to have the highest amount of defeats/kills on Sith lords compared to any other class. This is not to undermine the Consular effort's but rather say that you cant compare these two archetypes with each other and conclude that one is the "actual reason why the republic was saved". The consular is more of a bigger picture strategist while the knight is the proverbial sword that takes out the strongest threats. JK probably never defeats vitiate if the children werent removed, and Consular's efforts mean nothing if there was nobody powerful enough to defeat the emperor after the fact. As for who the Emperor would go after, its obviously the Knight first, then the Consular and Warrior and Inq. It's not about "importance/power", even though we just established that both are different types of power and aren't directly comparable. The emperor has a connection with the knight, they have a rivalry, they hate each other and the emperor thinks of the knight as his prodigal successor. They are diametrical oppositions of each other in the story. The Emperor is not an utilitarian creature, he loves poetic irony. He would love nothing more than to keep haunting his supposed "killer". It's sort of like Harry Potter and Voldemort, sure you may argue Hermione was the better wizard but he doesnt really care about her in that way. The knight is the prophecied hero who defeats the emperor and the emperor wants to beat fate itself.
@@apollyon4761 that wasn't a blast door. That was a regular security door. A blast door is a reinforced door that not even a lightsaber can cut through. No other class did this. The First Son was equivalent to the Voice, which the Knight fought. Even if you want to keep it vanilla, and say it was the Emperor, it was the Emperor after being weakened from the death of the most powerful Children(only difference between the Voice and Children is he allows them to retain their will in his absence). The Emperor was also weakened from both Kalligs and their shenanigans in the Dark Temple, Zash to a lesser extent. Scourge straight up says it, if you know the details of the Inquisitor's story that he hints at. Then the Wrath fought the true Voice, the one he'd been in since treaty had been signed, and it had the power of a planet wide Dark Side aspect added to it. The irony is YOU are speaking as someone just trying to speak up for their main. Funny enough, I prefer either Sith Story, but mainly Inquisitor. I don't even have to reread this to know everything I pointed out wasn't from planetary stories, but class stories. So no. The Consular's feats I listed were their own. Just because the Knight was prophesied to win doesn't mean they were the most powerful. It just means the Force would make a way for that person, in particular, to achieve the result. That has literally always been the case. Luke wasn't more powerful than Vader. Vader wasn't more powerful than Palpatine. Vader didn't bring balance in a heroic way. Hell, Jolee Bindo even makes a point of prophecies in KotOR1. Some kid had a great destiny and was prophecies to bring down some great villain. They all get together for the fated battle and the villain laid waste to all of them, easily. Then the dumb kid fell and got killed in a vent or something which brought down the ship, causing the villain's end. The Knight was just in the right place, at the right time. Hell, both Scourge and Shatele were still more powerful than them at that point, along with a lot of other key characters like Malgus. It's not speculation. They literally wrote the stories to interact and lead to the original KotOR3 ending. It's just that fanboys started fanboying and ran away with it.
@@Theinen84 JK is not my main, sith warrior is. Half the things you said are quite asinine tbh, What I said was, the "voice" or the emperor that the JK defeats by itself even in his weakened state is stronger than any singular child, including the first son. That's pretty undeniable. Jolee's quip on prophecy is pointing out that not every prophecy is exactly as it seems. In this case, "killing" the emperor was not cut and dry. The JK does not luck his way into killing the emperor. He beats him in a duel. Satele being stronger than the Knight is even more laughable because she herself calls the Knight the most powerful jedi in the galaxy or something to that effect, and she was definitely including herself. You beat scourge in a duel(yes he was holding back but he couldnt not actually try to beat the knight lest the emperor suspect him, also he was definitely looking forward to dueling them) and that was before you grow much stronger in the final chapter. The consular is supposed to be the wise scholar who deals with sealing force artifacts and eventually leads republic forces. They are not some unstoppable powerhouse. The JK is expressly written to be the focal point of the Jedi's combat forces. I was not using planet stories outside of the corellia example and that was only to point out that one of the consular class's major class story feats is something any pub side class can do. Things like routinely soloing a warship is based on the class story. Devaluing the Knight's feats because the story needed to weaken the emperor to make someone they gave too much plot armour to is even dumber, cause at that point I would consider the inquisitor quite a weakling due to the sheer amount of teams they need to be saved and get handed their power boosts in that story. I dont understand why you feel the need to be contrarian about such a simple cut and dry affair and say it makes more sense for the emperor to inhabit someone like the consular who is *not* the direct parallel of the emperor in the story, unlike the Knight.
The sith warrior story has the best dialogues in the game a good balance between of funny, serious and sarcasm and in some parts if you choose some dialogues it sounds like a movie like the fight against baras
SW was my first character into SWTOR, I love the story and class (DPS Marauder) The Voice Actor for the SW sounds so fucking cool for whatever you choose your SW to be. There is a dynamic choice for the SW to be, a restrained warrior (light side) or an honorable warrior, (neutral) or a murderous lunatic (dark side) I personally chose Honorable Warrior (mainly neutral) There are times when the SW does consider his ways, one being on Tatooine and facing his reflection depending on your light/dark side points. Vette of all companions does at times question your morality but also supports you. I do wish they gave the SW some Sith Lightning abilities.
My favorite class storyline so far. I love how one can be a neutral and pragmatic warrior. Full dark is a bit too murderous and insane for me, while full light is sometimes irresponsible..
Sith Warrior was one of my first characters(and faves). I played mine as a loyal fighter of the Empire but he respected his team, didn't kill innocents/non-combatants, and look at Jedi as worthy opponents at least when it came to combat. Still being a brutal badass throughput all of it. Also played him Dual wielding as my first Jedi had the tank spec so wanted to change it up for my Warrior.
Sith Inquisitor was my first and my favorite storyline of the game. I also love Warrior too. I play Murauder on Warrior and Sorc on my Inky. Back when the story and classes were linked. You couldn't have a Murauding Inquisitor.
What sells me so much on swotor and all it's classes is the freedom i have when playing, augmented by the newish ability to change your fighting style. I strongly advise you to try out both classes and each sub style for each story (double light saber and single for the warrior for example, they tend to be very different). As well as the difference between dark side and light side choices. Especially in the warrior class and the imperial agent stories the impact on what's happening around you is very visible. A second or third playthrough with a light side sith, or the honorable or bloodthirsty sith may open your eyes for these fun new interactions.
If you play light side sith warrior, it really shows an amazing character development of serving the empire and how there is power in utilizing both light and dark side aspects
If you go full Light side for Sith Warrior (it is not canon in terms of further expansion's plot but nevertheless) both for yourself and Jaesa - you will be a unconventional Sith, who is not afraid to lean into Light side of the Force, or something like that. And romantic options with Light side Jaesa would result in marrying her and having children. Also, I think the whole point of Sith Empire in SWTOR - is that they are not an inherent evil, as in movies. Here, Sith Empire is portrayed as rather cruel and violent, but still a state that involves every kinds of people, and who willingly work on building the better future for the whole Empire. It is very prominent in low-level quests on Dromund Kaas. And we also meet many Sith who are not just evil douchebags all the time: - Lana Beniko was a Sith, but she is kinda neutral in terms of ideologies or morals. - As a Jedi Knight - you will meet previous Emperor's Wrath, Scourge, and turn him in Light side of the Force. - As a Jedi Seer - you will also have some quests that involve turning some Sith to Light side. - If you go Light side as Sith Inquisitor - you will also be quite a reasonable Sith that will study how to summon Force ghosts to your aid, and also get involved in some Non-aligned Force usage for healing of your mind. - Many quests of Imperial Trooper, and Imperial Agent involve interacting with different Siths, who have the ultimate superiority over anyone in the military of Empire. So you will be at a constant disadvantage, but still able to reason and work together with some Sith Lords. - Darth Marr - is the ultimate badass, and very commendable in his morals, as for a Sith with such high rank. His main goal - is to ensure Sith Empire to continue thriwing. So he does not always seek conflict for the sake of conflict - he was the main military commander in the period of Galactic Cold War (it starts right after game's introduction cinematic "Deceived" and ends thorough progressing in game plot). He was always respectful of enemies because of their conviction to their ideals. He is also one of the few known Siths able to manifest as Force Ghost after his demise. He will eventually hang out with Satele Shan on some far planet, and learn Light side of the Force with her or smth.
So is it just pick every light side options or is it more like whatever feels right when picking between light and dark side options to play as a light side sith?
Sith Warrior is my favorite class story in SWTOR, my second favorite being the smuggler. And right now I'm trying to build my first Sith Inquisitor in years since the last one (it was like, when Knights of the Fallen Empire got released).
I remember the time the game came out and we spent days lvling my bestie made a warrior and I made an inquisitor. The amount of joy we felt was incredible. It made us relive our childhood. And surely we were laughing our ass off when met the boss with the line "I was not programmed for mercy"
I ended the main story line with my sith warrior today. I had a lightly different aproach to it. For the first few hours I was this big evil guy, being evil for evil's sake. BUT for myself I reached the point to turn things around. On Tatooine you have this encounter with the light, your light side or whatever and my warrior listened and was convinced by the more logic approach to power. I wouldnt say he became a full light side sith warrior but more light leaning and somewhat more rational in his choices. the game even gives you the opportunity to play with this concept. you can prevent jeassa from becoming a sith/dark side and work for a better empire. I would say a more gray approach. the best thing is if you do many light side choices when you interact with jedis/reps they are confused like hell, gives a more funny approach to many dialogs. I really enjoyed this approach to the sith warrior story. I had my full evil thingy with the inquisitor and tbh, for the inquisitor it works better, he has way more interactions with imps, where the warrior meets way more jedis/reps in the story.
I suggest you try Imperial Agent, its possibly one of the best written stories in Swotr, also outcomes vary a lot in game based on whether you do light side choices or Darkside ones, they give a whole different layer of depth to your character. Take the republic trooper who is an amazing Darkside choice and the Sith Inquisitor who is a very cool lightside choice.
It was always my opinion that the entire Fallen Empire /Eternal Throne story is best when played by the Sith Warrior or the Jedi Knight, but now that you mention it: The fact that the Warrior doesn’t really achieve anything in terms of a network like Baras or the Inquisitor has actually makes the Story with the Alliance even better because it makes your character really grow. You grow from just a big dude with a Lightsaber to a real Sith Lord with a powerbase.
Sith warrior is the best class to play again as a different alignment. Jaesa's story is completely different depending on light or dark. If you do play again I recommend playing a marauder, it's much faster than the juggernaut.
SW is my favorite class. Not only because i always like to play melee characters, but i just like the story and the whole wrath of the emperor/empire thing. You can really go through the story like a psychopath. For a game looking more like a comic than anything else there are quite a few really dark themes in it. Just think about how many inocent you can kill in horrible ways. That's how sith should be portrayed and not many rpgs or mmos let you do that. And playing a marauder is just plain fun. At least for classical MMO gameplay like in SWTOR. Jumping around and swinging two lightsabers like a mad man - i love it.
Loved the video but the last point you made, I disagree. I would say that vengeful slam in the vengeance spec for juggernaut is the sith warrior's version of force storm. Extremely satisfying animation and sound effect, and with the cut to pieces tactical you can potentially spam it and it makes all the good chemicals in your brain light up
You can also be a Sith Assassin for the Sith Warrior story, and it honestly feels better. Whereas with the Sith Inquisitor story, it feels better on a Sith Warrior class since you become the Heir of Tulak Hord and his apprentice Aloysius Khallig, and both of them were expert duelists and less so pure Sith Sorcerers.
am an inqusitor main when I played the story and conclusion feelt more rewarding then the sith warrior who just became an grunt for the emperor loved you overview of the pros and cons really well summary of the lore still say best start sith warrior best ending sith inqusitor imo
I just started playing a few days ago and, before I even see the video, yes it's worth playing... It reminds me of eq2, I used to play for years. (and still do once in a while)
excellent video^^ I might be motivated to actually write a Sith marauder as a fic within the context of the sith warrior story. I agreed with most of your assesment such as the theme, struggle and emptiness of the Sith philosophy. I think just as a matter of pay-off for the reader, it would be a tough sell to have the Sith warrior be stripped of power after all his hard work, unless you really want to drive home the emptiness. Maybe you could have the Sith warrior comment on that in some way. Like he knows what awaits him at the end of the path he has taken. The tone sort of reminds me of the tragedy of Michael Corleone when it comes to that particular ending. But I think the Sith warrior also has a lot of room for character development in both positive and negative directions. Perhaps the Sith warrior (as I felt like it was in the story) rest a bit too much on the title of Emperor's wrath after he's finally defeated Baras. Maybe that would be a good slap of reality if the dark council tries to dispose of him as he poses a threat to them. If you have any ideas, feel free to shoot some at me. I'd already have a rough idea how I would write the Sith warrior's personality.^^ Anyway keep up the good work. (And sorry for the wall of text)
Playing neutral or light-side Sith Warrior was pretty interesting. Since you start out as a slave, to me at least it felt natural trying to get out of this situation you've been forced into. Having empathy for others but having to keep a low profile and knowing when to show mercy and when to play the system as to not arouse suspicion all the while being subject to your own emotions and drifting into the dark side at times to get revenge.
@@Cailan_Mors My bad, Inqusitor was the 1st story I played and that was nearly a decade ago so my memory is a little foggy. xD Thanks for the clarification!
If you have issues with the long GCD stack alacrity. Alacrity lowers the gcd at certain point benchmarks scaling with level. Super high alacrity won't do the most damage but you may have more enjoyment doing your rotation.
Iirc the Tatooine section of the main story has a point of reflection at which the Warrior can alter their path in regards to light and dark. I didn't choose to do so, I've no idea what it entails. I liked the Inquisitor's story a bit better as I like the arcane lore angle over the Baras intrigue. But even I acknowledge the Imperial Agent reigns supreme.
6:05, imagine if Darth Zash was the Sith warrior master creating a Sith style Yzma and Kronk storyline. I would pay for that, fits so wellnshe would want to become An Empress.
Light Side for the Sith Classes is actually amazingly interesting and entertaining. The Jedi lose their minds at the very idea of a Light Side Sith. And I go a step further to be one as a Sith Pureblood, to make the Perfect Contradiction.
I love the Sith Warrior a lot. You truly feel elite, but nothing beats the rise to power of the Inquisitor! Not to mention how amazing the female’s voice is, she sounds maniacal while zapping people with lightning!
The tanking in TOR is honestly one of the best versions I’ve ever played, my main is a Jedi guardian tank (basically the opposite of the warrior) and I love it, it’s not slow the abilities are fun and taunt so I very rarely use the actual taunt abilitie 😂 as so many other skills do it, and you deal decent damage it’s far better than any other mmo for tanking imo they balanced it perfectly
Out of all of the force based classes, the Sith Warrior/Jedi Knight storys were fun to progress through. I do agree with your points on the Sith warrior. As much as I like the Jedi Knight, it puts you in the place of Protag-chan of the whole game as far as how all of the stories ans subsequent expacs connect you directly to the evil baddie.
The Sith inquisitor story is definitely currently my favorite. I have not done the bounty hunter or republic trooper yet. I do enjoy passing off Barras as the warrior. It's just hilarious to me, especially when he can't do anything about it 🤣
Trooper is my personal favourite. With Warrior a close second. I liked the first arc and last arc of the Inquisitor storyline. The 2nd chapter was too boring and I nearly quit.
Story wise the sixth warrior and Jedi guardian are amazing. Republic trooper is fun Empire agent has its good moments. IMO And good replay ability because of the dark side/light side and ocasional gray choices.
I played as the dual wielding version of the Sith Warrior and Jedi Knight and I was always annoyed with the system of having to build up your power so you could release your abilities, when compared with the Inquisitor and Consular and just using their powers and energy management. I could wipe out an enemy pretty quickly with a couple of powers with my Inquisitor when compared to the minute or so of hacking and slashing just to be able to use an ability to finish them off. As for storyline, I feel that the Inquisitor gets the better storyline when compared to the Warrior. I really felt like I accomplished something when I finished it than just becoming the Emperor’s lap dog essentially. As for Jaesa (probably not spelling that right), I played as a Dark Side Warrior and I kinda got annoyed with her slavish adoration of my character after a few conversations with her. At some point, I might play as a Light Side or Neutral version and just let her be the opposite option you can get for her so I don’t have to deal with her being that way. But yeah, I’m glad that they changed it so that you can pick whatever option you want for your class now. Going to make playing a Warrior again more fun when I can fling lightning around like an Inquisitor.
Sith warrior was my favorite to level all the way through. it was grand. and I wholly agree, Baras should have been the Inquisitors master 100% though the rage meme of baris will forever live on in my heart.
personaly i like darth Barras, hes pretty cool id like to do some more mission for him. The begining of the story is why i have 5 sith warriors. I just love the sith academy.
Sith Inquisitor (Female) is pretty cool as well, Imperial Agent is probably the best written one and Bounty hunter is your way into roleplaying a mandalorian
Hey man, don't know if someone already pointed it out but the red 'Alien' companion you show in the video is Khem Val and is the inquisitor companion. You get Broonmark. He is the white furry alien.
The Sith Warrior is the Gigachad story/class of SWTOR. From the story, the writing, the VA and the mechanics of the two Sith Warrior classes, it exudes gigachad.
SWtOR Guardian and Warrior always felt like they could benefit from having weaving abilities like the Gunbreaker in FFXIV. Ready to Blast and continuation makes me continuously ready to blast if you know what I'm saying. :P
Jedi female sentinel consular was my favorite playthrough so far. I tried to uphold the Jedi teachings and sacrifice myself when possible and only resorted to straight up murdering a bad guy once when he was well beyond redemption.
Well, actually the dialogues allow you to choose between being agressive dumb grunt or being kinda smart and perceptive. There is even a change of tone of protagonist's voice. Quite impressive, i'd say.
Nixxiom, to have mained sith warrior for gods knows how long, you have many cool ability as the marauder(dps) unlike the juggernaught(tank) Its just a shame that even the juggernaught dps subclass dont really offer much. But with the new system of combat style, you can do sith assassin as sith warrior story XD
by pure story, by far I think my personal fav is agents. gameplay is a little lack luster just pew pew. Infiltrator is a little more bearable then sharpshooter.
All the class stories were really good. Speaking on just the Sith classes, Inquisitor you could be way more evil imo, and Warrior you had more freedom to be either bad or good or something in between.
I've never finished the DS Sith Warrior storyline. I've played through other DS characters, but I got tired of basically being nothing but a psychotic thug _really_ quickly. It just felt like nothing but "Hurr durr I'm gonna kill everyone for no reason murder murder murder." No subtlety, no motivation, just pointless cruelty. Between that and abuse of your slave Vette (which I find outright sick and offensive) I just always ended up deleting the character. Now the LS version of the Sith Warrior is the opposite. It's one of my favorite storylines. Having to walk a fine line in Sith society, moving up and gaining power without letting on that you're not a monster, it feels like more of a challenge. You get to play as someone with honor and a code, manipulating others into thinking that your sometimes-questionable choices were done for the same twisted reasons that other Sith use to justify their actions, I enjoyed the hell out of that.
I was with you up until you talked about lack of cool and grandiose abilities and that you leveled as a tank. Jugg tank honestly doesn't do much in the form of grandiose. It more just stands there and well tanks hits and damage. It'll do the flips and what not but it doesn't really do any cool animations unique to it. I'd definitely suggest playing the two dps specs, Rage and Vengeance, for unique animations or alternatively trying the Warrior's all dps class, Marauder, which has plenty of unique animations to go along with its attacks. Fury spec force punches enemies like you're shooting an energy Ki blast from DBZ, Carnage slams its lightsabers together to create a shockwave of concentrated force energy to hurl and slam into targets, and Annihilation swipes and claws with the force at targets to bloody them up, causing bleed damage.
Vengeance version of smash, which I can't remember the name of right now, that's the cool ability that always feels soo good to press, for me at least. Way cooler than force storm
i played mostly light but also a lot of dark, just more light, more like anti-hero so i convinced Jessa so she didn't tur to the dark side and searched for other Jedi who are fed up with Jedi council to join our cause to take town both sith and Jedi and change both worlds i embraced the raven's way by not ratting them out cause he so that its true path to real power what he need to change the universe
I think the entire point of the Sith Warrior is supposed to be more of a living boulder that only the Emperor can throw around. If Darth Diabetus hadn't betrayed you and literally everybody else around him, he actually could have succeeded at becoming the new Emperor, but he only ever saw loose ends where the actual Emperor sees opportunities. The Emperor makes you his Wrath and you prove why in front of the entire Sith Council, while also sending a message that they no longer have a position over you. If they screw up, you are their executioner, and you will happily do your job. Hence why you leave the room with a power walk like the absolute Chad you are because you are now one of the freest and most powerful people in the Empire, unbeholden by petty politics, a weapon both feared and respected.
Sith Warrior was the first class I played in SWTOR back in 2016, and it has been my favorite so far. I enjoyed the Inquisitor but felt I had too much borrowed power. Imperial Agent was right up there in positive experience with Sith Warrior. Jedi Guardian was meh, and so far Bounty Hunter is slightly less meh. Star Wars the Old Republic is absolutely worth coming back to, however. Especially if, like me, you haven't played through all the Class Storylines.
"Random soldier" Imperial Special Forces, "bug monster" wrong image, and it's a Talz, and "never a really a moment where he slows down and considers what he's doing" that was literally the point of the Tattooine Quest
i agree with most of your negatives from the story. I found inq story a bit better( i love the voice acting from Xanthe Elbrick). In combat tough....for me at least warrior is way more fun to play than inq. Cool abilities are impale, shatter and ofc vengeful slam( yes i play as a vengeance dps ). U should try the agent story line it is one of the bets in game.
I have never played Sith Warrior. I’ve dabbled in the game but not really fully enjoyed the game . Started a Warrior (maurader) and I’m hooked on the story ! So thank you for this video !! Im hoping you will do more SWTOR class reviews this year!! 😊
In regards to the sith warrior story, I think you're wrong about them not doing more with the tragedy of the philosophy and the warrior being almost blind. The reason they didn't do that is to give the players a means to head cannon their own characters thoughts despite the fact he or she speaks in dialogue. So in between actions and then your choices reflect your head cannon as much as possible, thats why the dialogue is A B or C. To give the players head cannon options. I think ultimately this was a really good move by them and frankly, I would of hated it if they had done as you suggested.
Any class you'd recommend I play and check out next?
If you want the best class story (in my opinion), I would go with the Imperial Agent.
If you haven’t played it yet, sith inquisitor female is the best story from start to finish through all the content as they are the guardian of sith relics which means you are canonically in swtor the main character lol
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Inquisitor kicks ass!
one of the coolest things about the sith stuff is honestly being a "good guy" and seeing how light side people end up falling to the dark side due to immense hatred and distrust towards you, it shows ALOT of stuff that you wouldn't see otherwise
yeah jedi doing mental gymnastics to justify attacking you is the best :D
One of the best moments of any class story was driving Jaesa's master mad whilst Jaesa realized you as a Sith have more light in you than her master, a Jedi.
When the devil offers a helping hand, many will rather fall than to accept it. Even if only they see the help as the devil
That was always my favorite path. I'm a bounty hunter main, but playing alight side sith who taps into their emotion while remaining in control of it, is a very cool play through. Everyone is shocked and it really highlights the 'evil' of the old Jedi path (Luke's order changed that). I also like the feel of the combat around their style. It feels like 'rage unleashed'.
Probably the second best class story behind the imperial agent.
Light Side Sith Warrior here. it's always a treat to see the gobsmacked expression on Jedi's faces when they encounter my character. You can see the gears grind to a halt in their heads as they try to process it.
Playing a light side sith is imo, the best way to play the game. How I did it was having a generally dark side sith who treats those beneath him fairly well, before fully accepting the light side on Tatooine when you go into the force cave. You get more focus on the tragedy of the sith via literally everyone being surprised at you being a semi-decent human being (or whichever species you picked), you get not only to pick apart the sith for their general shittiness but also the Jedi for their general closed-mindedness (like, twice in the just the first chapter, you drive a jedi mad by not immediately trying to kill them, even goading one by living up to the Jedi Code better than they are iirc). On top of all of that, you get a much better narrative contrast against Baras.
The concern trolling you can do as a light side sith only ever worked on the weak jedi throughout the story the masters and the one kight in the ambush can see your geuine if your doing a true lightside playthrough not really "seeing through the jedi lies" as much as weeding out the weaker ones
Facts
Anddd you still get to mess with people. The whole "I'm an evil Sith. You will join me. Not because of fear but because I treat you right and pay well"
It's felt like Obi-Wan Kenobi trolling everyone and everything in the galaxy with chad sith energy 😂
What I always found interesting is the factions. If you did right by the SITH Empire forces, than you went light side. If you did right by the republic forces, you went dark side. Lines blurred, cool foreshadowing
If you play a Light Side version of this class you'll get an uncorrupted Jayca. It's your alignment to the light side that drives her master insane and causes her to join you.
Actually, your alignment is not related to Jaesa's.
Her alignment is literally decided by the final answer you pick after Nomen Karr's defeat. These appropriately award LS/DS points. But have no alignment requirement. So Light V SW can have Dark Jaesa. And Dark V SW can have Light Jaesa.
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@@tywinlannister8015 One of the choices is actually affected by your alignment.
"Use your power on me."
If Dark Side, she senses Darkness and goes Dark Side, Light Side she senses Honor and even Kindness, stays the path.
@@ShadowWolfRising That comes earlier in the conversation actually, and has no bearing on the final outcome. The final outcome really is decided by what you tell Jaesa just before Nomen Karr's fate is decided.
@@ShadowWolfRising If you tell Jaesa to kill him, she becomes Sith...if you spare him and send him back to the Jedi council (as mine did, I thought I was mocking them, "look what I can do to your masters!") she will remain light.
And...as long as SHE doesn't kill Karr - she stays Light.
All classes have something that throws you out of the loop for them to be interesting:
-Sith warrior: Playing lightside is hilarious both in a comical way and philophical way
-Sith inquisitor: the story that you get and the implications of all the characters that you meet(i am looking at your ghost of Kallig), For Inquisitor all the names and character bring stuff from the KOTOR and the legacy of those characters
-Bounty hunter: Joining Mandalore and how your character changes his responses to anything related to Mandalorian Culture(including the Mandalore chapter in KOTFE and the 7.2 planet)
-Agent: Playing Loyalist, Playing Double Agent, Playing Hand of Jadus
cant comment on Rep classes but so far the Jedi knight has a lot of repercussions for showing mercy or not and the same for the Trooper
the trooper story can be nice if you play it like an action movie. YOU are the biggest badest MFer around and you always going in blastin OR you do the completly boring military stuff "yes sir" and it becomes tedious after chapter 1
Let's admit, we love empire stories because of all those cheesy villain punchlines that flatter our inner power fantaisies.
It's awesome and we need more games like that.
I personally love how the post base game story feels like a continuation of the Sith Warrior story.
To me it doesn't feel like your a brute, or less capable than your master's were. But instead that you are the physical embodiment of wrath and power. To those that cross you, you are the unflinching predator at their throats. To those that would seek to chain you, you are the herald of their death and destruction.
A being that even a Sith God like Tenebrae fears.
For me the Sith Warrior storyline is the best due to being consistent. You meet Baras at your training, and through the 3 Acts he will become your nemesis. The entire story shows this relationship. For all the other classes, their nemeses only appear in later Acts.
As for the Inquisitor, their story felt like you were always helped by others around you. Zash was partial to you due to having visions of you. You could only get the Deshade due to being given extra information the other candidates didn't have. You could only defeat the Deshade due to it being severly weakened. You could only survive Zash' betrayal due to the Deshade bound to you. You could only survive Thanaton's trial due to having a ghost of your ancestor teach you stuff. Zash' former apprentices, Rakata Mother, random Moffs out of nowhere, every time someone appeared to save your ass.
I think that's part of the class fantasy, though. Sith Inquisitor is literally just that. They are an Inquisitor, searching for hidden, forbidden knowledge and manipulating others to enhance their power and destroy their foes. Sith Warriors don't care about that, they just want to foster inner strength and power within themselves by any means necessary. It's a cool dichotomy.
Just recently started playing again. I had forgotten just how awesome Swtor really is
Playing SWTOR while watching a Nixxiom video about SWTOR is the life. 😎
If Sith Warrior felt slow to you, Marauder is a LOT faster and required a lot more buttons to push in relatively quick succesion.
Have you played Imperial Agent yet? It is considered (one of) the best stories in the game.
Underrated MMO, came back after 5 years and recently quit WoW. WoW is just boring now an is complete dog water compared to SWTOR
The sad part is that all the feelings of being a dark side character go away the minute you start building that 'base' and do the fallen empire stuff.
Yup, main reason why I quit playing after KotFE and KotET. They completely trashed class power-fantasy and uniqueness to streamline the story and made everything so same-same. I'll never understand why this happened. The start of KotFE (Vitiate entering your mind) will never, ever make sense for any character that isn't a Sith Warrior or Jedi Knight and you can't convince me otherwise.
@@__jojo__well... I agree on the non-Force classes, but not the other two. Consular is the one that saved the Republic, not the Knight. Consular turned the tides of war and held massive influence, and was even commanding, over half of the Republic's forces. The Consular is also the one that weakened Vitiate the most in order for the Knight to face him. They took out all of the Children, either by killing them, sending a Shockwave through the Force to him, or by severing them from him, locking off huge chunks of his power. Kotxx is something the Consular has sorta already done. Not to mention they're a massive powerhouse, performing feats we don't see repeated until Vaylin shows up, like ripping through blast doors with a single Force Push. They're also the only one that starts off OP, story wise, and actually becomes weaker, yet does all of those amazing things. The First Son had a ridiculous amount of Vitiate's power. That was the primary back up avatar.
Inquisitor is heir to a lost bloodline, and even on first awakening is so powerful that just grasping a Force conduit (their lightsaber), was enough to send ripples through the Force to affect the ghosts of ancient Sith Lords on another planet, already shrouded by the Emperor's power. They possess a rare ability that Vitiate doesn't have, that opened a path to immortality even better than his own. Inquisitor dies and can get right back up. Vitiate needs to find another body, and that could take years, or needs massive amounts of death to feed off and recover quicker. He's not able to Forcewalk. His form of immortality comes at a greater price as well. Inquisitor wasn't weak, just lacked the experience and knowledge the Lords and Darths had that targeted them. Zach also wasn't teaching them, really, Kallig was their true master. The Inquisitor also remade their very body, first becoming immune to poisons, toxins and even radiation, then even remaking their very body to be superior, in every way, and able to contain unnatural levels of power. Add into that, they also have machines and arrays that can increase their life span. They even climbed to the top of the Empire without his influence. They made themselves, while the other three Force classes became what they were by being attached to Vitiate in some way. The Inquisitor is a very real threat to Vitiate by being able to bind him as well (and stupid that we don't even get an option to try and they say it failed because he's too strong or something). Inquistor's actions in the Dark Temple also created ripples that disrupted the ritual Vitiate was doing and weakened him further for the Knight.
It honestly makes more sense for Vitiate to go for Inquisitor > Consular > Knight >>> Warrior to me.
Warrior was fun and all but they weren't the real Wrath. That was Scourge. He built up the rep. Warrior just reaped benefits and seemed like a choice of convenience. Someone needed to stop Baras, they were in a position, and had motive, to do so. The Hand even reprimanded them from takin action on their own or using the name of Wrath without permission. Scourge spoke directly with the Emperor, we did not.
With what we know of Vitiate, how meticulous he is and all, the prophecy surrounding the Knight, Scourge's betrayal and all, I can see him trying to go for the Knight, but not like that. The Battlemaster had already broken his control once before, and defeated him in a duel. He wouldn't try the same thing again, especially when his existence actually depended on it.
But the Warrior being the Wrath is so overhyped. We don't get the immortality, power boost, seat of power, nothing. We only got the name. Vitiate never really saw us as his Wrath.
@@Theinen84 Completely disagree on you undermining the Knight here, the Consular did do all of that stuff but you seem to be a bit biased as someone who would main that class. Corellia is something any class can do, so not all of Consular's feats are theirs. On top of that while yes consular did soften the emperor for the knight, it was still prophecied for the knight to stop the emperor and at the end of the day defeating the emperor is a more impressive feat than any of the singular children. Knights and Warriors also do similar feats like the blast door one(Warrior for example not only opens a blast door with the force and with relative ease, they do it while a jedi is on the other side trying to keep it closed, and this is right after the tutorial planet). And while the consular was more of a strategist commanding the republic forces, Knight was a precision powerhouse that went around singlehandedly changing the fates of planets, or soloing entire warships and so on. Consular is a strategist while Knight was the crown jewel of the jedi that was deployed for the highest stakes missions and also commanded the republic on a ground level often. The knight also happens to have the highest amount of defeats/kills on Sith lords compared to any other class. This is not to undermine the Consular effort's but rather say that you cant compare these two archetypes with each other and conclude that one is the "actual reason why the republic was saved". The consular is more of a bigger picture strategist while the knight is the proverbial sword that takes out the strongest threats.
JK probably never defeats vitiate if the children werent removed, and Consular's efforts mean nothing if there was nobody powerful enough to defeat the emperor after the fact.
As for who the Emperor would go after, its obviously the Knight first, then the Consular and Warrior and Inq. It's not about "importance/power", even though we just established that both are different types of power and aren't directly comparable. The emperor has a connection with the knight, they have a rivalry, they hate each other and the emperor thinks of the knight as his prodigal successor. They are diametrical oppositions of each other in the story. The Emperor is not an utilitarian creature, he loves poetic irony. He would love nothing more than to keep haunting his supposed "killer". It's sort of like Harry Potter and Voldemort, sure you may argue Hermione was the better wizard but he doesnt really care about her in that way. The knight is the prophecied hero who defeats the emperor and the emperor wants to beat fate itself.
@@apollyon4761 that wasn't a blast door. That was a regular security door. A blast door is a reinforced door that not even a lightsaber can cut through. No other class did this. The First Son was equivalent to the Voice, which the Knight fought. Even if you want to keep it vanilla, and say it was the Emperor, it was the Emperor after being weakened from the death of the most powerful Children(only difference between the Voice and Children is he allows them to retain their will in his absence). The Emperor was also weakened from both Kalligs and their shenanigans in the Dark Temple, Zash to a lesser extent. Scourge straight up says it, if you know the details of the Inquisitor's story that he hints at. Then the Wrath fought the true Voice, the one he'd been in since treaty had been signed, and it had the power of a planet wide Dark Side aspect added to it.
The irony is YOU are speaking as someone just trying to speak up for their main. Funny enough, I prefer either Sith Story, but mainly Inquisitor. I don't even have to reread this to know everything I pointed out wasn't from planetary stories, but class stories. So no. The Consular's feats I listed were their own. Just because the Knight was prophesied to win doesn't mean they were the most powerful. It just means the Force would make a way for that person, in particular, to achieve the result. That has literally always been the case. Luke wasn't more powerful than Vader. Vader wasn't more powerful than Palpatine. Vader didn't bring balance in a heroic way. Hell, Jolee Bindo even makes a point of prophecies in KotOR1. Some kid had a great destiny and was prophecies to bring down some great villain. They all get together for the fated battle and the villain laid waste to all of them, easily. Then the dumb kid fell and got killed in a vent or something which brought down the ship, causing the villain's end.
The Knight was just in the right place, at the right time. Hell, both Scourge and Shatele were still more powerful than them at that point, along with a lot of other key characters like Malgus.
It's not speculation. They literally wrote the stories to interact and lead to the original KotOR3 ending. It's just that fanboys started fanboying and ran away with it.
@@Theinen84 JK is not my main, sith warrior is. Half the things you said are quite asinine tbh, What I said was, the "voice" or the emperor that the JK defeats by itself even in his weakened state is stronger than any singular child, including the first son. That's pretty undeniable. Jolee's quip on prophecy is pointing out that not every prophecy is exactly as it seems. In this case, "killing" the emperor was not cut and dry. The JK does not luck his way into killing the emperor. He beats him in a duel. Satele being stronger than the Knight is even more laughable because she herself calls the Knight the most powerful jedi in the galaxy or something to that effect, and she was definitely including herself. You beat scourge in a duel(yes he was holding back but he couldnt not actually try to beat the knight lest the emperor suspect him, also he was definitely looking forward to dueling them) and that was before you grow much stronger in the final chapter.
The consular is supposed to be the wise scholar who deals with sealing force artifacts and eventually leads republic forces. They are not some unstoppable powerhouse. The JK is expressly written to be the focal point of the Jedi's combat forces. I was not using planet stories outside of the corellia example and that was only to point out that one of the consular class's major class story feats is something any pub side class can do. Things like routinely soloing a warship is based on the class story.
Devaluing the Knight's feats because the story needed to weaken the emperor to make someone they gave too much plot armour to is even dumber, cause at that point I would consider the inquisitor quite a weakling due to the sheer amount of teams they need to be saved and get handed their power boosts in that story.
I dont understand why you feel the need to be contrarian about such a simple cut and dry affair and say it makes more sense for the emperor to inhabit someone like the consular who is *not* the direct parallel of the emperor in the story, unlike the Knight.
The sith warrior story has the best dialogues in the game a good balance between of funny, serious and sarcasm and in some parts if you choose some dialogues it sounds like a movie like the fight against baras
SW was my first character into SWTOR, I love the story and class (DPS Marauder) The Voice Actor for the SW sounds so fucking cool for whatever you choose your SW to be. There is a dynamic choice for the SW to be, a restrained warrior (light side) or an honorable warrior, (neutral) or a murderous lunatic (dark side) I personally chose Honorable Warrior (mainly neutral) There are times when the SW does consider his ways, one being on Tatooine and facing his reflection depending on your light/dark side points. Vette of all companions does at times question your morality but also supports you. I do wish they gave the SW some Sith Lightning abilities.
My favorite class storyline so far. I love how one can be a neutral and pragmatic warrior. Full dark is a bit too murderous and insane for me, while full light is sometimes irresponsible..
Sith Warrior was one of my first characters(and faves). I played mine as a loyal fighter of the Empire but he respected his team, didn't kill innocents/non-combatants, and look at Jedi as worthy opponents at least when it came to combat. Still being a brutal badass throughput all of it. Also played him Dual wielding as my first Jedi had the tank spec so wanted to change it up for my Warrior.
Sith Inquisitor was my first and my favorite storyline of the game. I also love Warrior too. I play Murauder on Warrior and Sorc on my Inky. Back when the story and classes were linked. You couldn't have a Murauding Inquisitor.
What sells me so much on swotor and all it's classes is the freedom i have when playing, augmented by the newish ability to change your fighting style. I strongly advise you to try out both classes and each sub style for each story (double light saber and single for the warrior for example, they tend to be very different). As well as the difference between dark side and light side choices. Especially in the warrior class and the imperial agent stories the impact on what's happening around you is very visible. A second or third playthrough with a light side sith, or the honorable or bloodthirsty sith may open your eyes for these fun new interactions.
Personally, Warrior has one of the best history class in the game in DS and in LS you dont feel it is off script, thanks for you review Nixxiom.
If you play light side sith warrior, it really shows an amazing character development of serving the empire and how there is power in utilizing both light and dark side aspects
Vengance Juggernaut has always been my favorite in terms of game play. Just satisfying melting face. I like Darkness Assassin too.
You should've played SIth Warrior as a Light Side user. I did it when it came out and I had a blast with the storytelling. It was amazing.
Inquisitor is my favorite :)
You can be so hilariously evil as an inquisitor, its awesome.
If you go full Light side for Sith Warrior (it is not canon in terms of further expansion's plot but nevertheless) both for yourself and Jaesa - you will be a unconventional Sith, who is not afraid to lean into Light side of the Force, or something like that. And romantic options with Light side Jaesa would result in marrying her and having children.
Also, I think the whole point of Sith Empire in SWTOR - is that they are not an inherent evil, as in movies. Here, Sith Empire is portrayed as rather cruel and violent, but still a state that involves every kinds of people, and who willingly work on building the better future for the whole Empire. It is very prominent in low-level quests on Dromund Kaas.
And we also meet many Sith who are not just evil douchebags all the time:
- Lana Beniko was a Sith, but she is kinda neutral in terms of ideologies or morals.
- As a Jedi Knight - you will meet previous Emperor's Wrath, Scourge, and turn him in Light side of the Force.
- As a Jedi Seer - you will also have some quests that involve turning some Sith to Light side.
- If you go Light side as Sith Inquisitor - you will also be quite a reasonable Sith that will study how to summon Force ghosts to your aid, and also get involved in some Non-aligned Force usage for healing of your mind.
- Many quests of Imperial Trooper, and Imperial Agent involve interacting with different Siths, who have the ultimate superiority over anyone in the military of Empire. So you will be at a constant disadvantage, but still able to reason and work together with some Sith Lords.
- Darth Marr - is the ultimate badass, and very commendable in his morals, as for a Sith with such high rank. His main goal - is to ensure Sith Empire to continue thriwing. So he does not always seek conflict for the sake of conflict - he was the main military commander in the period of Galactic Cold War (it starts right after game's introduction cinematic "Deceived" and ends thorough progressing in game plot). He was always respectful of enemies because of their conviction to their ideals. He is also one of the few known Siths able to manifest as Force Ghost after his demise. He will eventually hang out with Satele Shan on some far planet, and learn Light side of the Force with her or smth.
So is it just pick every light side options or is it more like whatever feels right when picking between light and dark side options to play as a light side sith?
don't forget Darth Vowrawn simply being a decent human being and having a funny, not-so-evil voice
The great storytelling of Bioware. Glad the servers are still up to play this game, so many good stories to play through, actual roleplaying.
my main since day one, that moment of confronting Baras the wide is one of my favorite moments in star wars overall
Your mind will be blown by the Imperial Agent story. Best one in thr
E game by far. I hope you will review it as well. ;)
Never really liked the agent story. It's just a discount James Bond xD
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My wife always went agent and they get the coolest looking ship iirc !
All classes are pretty amazing. I also liked bounty hunter story alot.
my LS sith warrior is a reformer. The empire should survive but those beneath us should be allowed to prove their strength
Sith Warrior is my favorite class story in SWTOR, my second favorite being the smuggler.
And right now I'm trying to build my first Sith Inquisitor in years since the last one (it was like, when Knights of the Fallen Empire got released).
I remember the time the game came out and we spent days lvling my bestie made a warrior and I made an inquisitor. The amount of joy we felt was incredible. It made us relive our childhood. And surely we were laughing our ass off when met the boss with the line "I was not programmed for mercy"
I ended the main story line with my sith warrior today. I had a lightly different aproach to it. For the first few hours I was this big evil guy, being evil for evil's sake. BUT for myself I reached the point to turn things around. On Tatooine you have this encounter with the light, your light side or whatever and my warrior listened and was convinced by the more logic approach to power. I wouldnt say he became a full light side sith warrior but more light leaning and somewhat more rational in his choices. the game even gives you the opportunity to play with this concept. you can prevent jeassa from becoming a sith/dark side and work for a better empire. I would say a more gray approach. the best thing is if you do many light side choices when you interact with jedis/reps they are confused like hell, gives a more funny approach to many dialogs. I really enjoyed this approach to the sith warrior story. I had my full evil thingy with the inquisitor and tbh, for the inquisitor it works better, he has way more interactions with imps, where the warrior meets way more jedis/reps in the story.
I suggest you try Imperial Agent, its possibly one of the best written stories in Swotr, also outcomes vary a lot in game based on whether you do light side choices or Darkside ones, they give a whole different layer of depth to your character.
Take the republic trooper who is an amazing Darkside choice and the Sith Inquisitor who is a very cool lightside choice.
It was always my opinion that the entire Fallen Empire /Eternal Throne story is best when played by the Sith Warrior or the Jedi Knight, but now that you mention it: The fact that the Warrior doesn’t really achieve anything in terms of a network like Baras or the Inquisitor has actually makes the Story with the Alliance even better because it makes your character really grow. You grow from just a big dude with a Lightsaber to a real Sith Lord with a powerbase.
Sith warrior is the best class to play again as a different alignment. Jaesa's story is completely different depending on light or dark. If you do play again I recommend playing a marauder, it's much faster than the juggernaut.
SW is my favorite class. Not only because i always like to play melee characters, but i just like the story and the whole wrath of the emperor/empire thing. You can really go through the story like a psychopath. For a game looking more like a comic than anything else there are quite a few really dark themes in it. Just think about how many inocent you can kill in horrible ways. That's how sith should be portrayed and not many rpgs or mmos let you do that.
And playing a marauder is just plain fun. At least for classical MMO gameplay like in SWTOR. Jumping around and swinging two lightsabers like a mad man - i love it.
I appreciate this type of content! thanks Nixxiom! I want to show my friends this because I thought Sith Warrior was the coolest part of SWTOR!
Loved the video but the last point you made, I disagree. I would say that vengeful slam in the vengeance spec for juggernaut is the sith warrior's version of force storm. Extremely satisfying animation and sound effect, and with the cut to pieces tactical you can potentially spam it and it makes all the good chemicals in your brain light up
You can also be a Sith Assassin for the Sith Warrior story, and it honestly feels better. Whereas with the Sith Inquisitor story, it feels better on a Sith Warrior class since you become the Heir of Tulak Hord and his apprentice Aloysius Khallig, and both of them were expert duelists and less so pure Sith Sorcerers.
am an inqusitor main when I played the story and conclusion feelt more rewarding then the sith warrior who just became an grunt for the emperor loved you overview of the pros and cons really well summary of the lore still say best start sith warrior best ending sith inqusitor imo
I just started playing a few days ago and, before I even see the video, yes it's worth playing... It reminds me of eq2, I used to play for years. (and still do once in a while)
excellent video^^ I might be motivated to actually write a Sith marauder as a fic within the context of the sith warrior story.
I agreed with most of your assesment such as the theme, struggle and emptiness of the Sith philosophy. I think just as a matter of pay-off for the reader, it would be a tough sell to have the Sith warrior be stripped of power after all his hard work, unless you really want to drive home the emptiness.
Maybe you could have the Sith warrior comment on that in some way. Like he knows what awaits him at the end of the path he has taken. The tone sort of reminds me of the tragedy of Michael Corleone when it comes to that particular ending. But I think the Sith warrior also has a lot of room for character development in both positive and negative directions.
Perhaps the Sith warrior (as I felt like it was in the story) rest a bit too much on the title of Emperor's wrath after he's finally defeated Baras. Maybe that would be a good slap of reality if the dark council tries to dispose of him as he poses a threat to them.
If you have any ideas, feel free to shoot some at me. I'd already have a rough idea how I would write the Sith warrior's personality.^^ Anyway keep up the good work. (And sorry for the wall of text)
Was this video not popular enough for more? Really enjoyed this "class review"
Playing neutral or light-side Sith Warrior was pretty interesting. Since you start out as a slave, to me at least it felt natural trying to get out of this situation you've been forced into.
Having empathy for others but having to keep a low profile and knowing when to show mercy and when to play the system as to not arouse suspicion all the while being subject to your own emotions and drifting into the dark side at times to get revenge.
The inquisitor starts out as a slave, not the warrior.
@@Cailan_Mors My bad, Inqusitor was the 1st story I played and that was nearly a decade ago so my memory is a little foggy. xD
Thanks for the clarification!
If you have issues with the long GCD stack alacrity. Alacrity lowers the gcd at certain point benchmarks scaling with level. Super high alacrity won't do the most damage but you may have more enjoyment doing your rotation.
Iirc the Tatooine section of the main story has a point of reflection at which the Warrior can alter their path in regards to light and dark. I didn't choose to do so, I've no idea what it entails.
I liked the Inquisitor's story a bit better as I like the arcane lore angle over the Baras intrigue. But even I acknowledge the Imperial Agent reigns supreme.
6:05, imagine if Darth Zash was the Sith warrior master creating a Sith style Yzma and Kronk storyline. I would pay for that, fits so wellnshe would want to become An Empress.
Light Side for the Sith Classes is actually amazingly interesting and entertaining.
The Jedi lose their minds at the very idea of a Light Side Sith.
And I go a step further to be one as a Sith Pureblood, to make the Perfect Contradiction.
I love the Sith Warrior a lot. You truly feel elite, but nothing beats the rise to power of the Inquisitor! Not to mention how amazing the female’s voice is, she sounds maniacal while zapping people with lightning!
The tanking in TOR is honestly one of the best versions I’ve ever played, my main is a Jedi guardian tank (basically the opposite of the warrior) and I love it, it’s not slow the abilities are fun and taunt so I very rarely use the actual taunt abilitie 😂 as so many other skills do it, and you deal decent damage it’s far better than any other mmo for tanking imo they balanced it perfectly
Out of all of the force based classes, the Sith Warrior/Jedi Knight storys were fun to progress through. I do agree with your points on the Sith warrior. As much as I like the Jedi Knight, it puts you in the place of Protag-chan of the whole game as far as how all of the stories ans subsequent expacs connect you directly to the evil baddie.
The Sith inquisitor story is definitely currently my favorite. I have not done the bounty hunter or republic trooper yet.
I do enjoy passing off Barras as the warrior. It's just hilarious to me, especially when he can't do anything about it 🤣
Trooper is my personal favourite. With Warrior a close second. I liked the first arc and last arc of the Inquisitor storyline. The 2nd chapter was too boring and I nearly quit.
The first class I played in the game. Always will be my favorite
I love the sith warriors companions. Some of the best in the game.
I love doing light side with it It's quite refreshing
Story wise the sixth warrior and Jedi guardian are amazing. Republic trooper is fun Empire agent has its good moments. IMO And good replay ability because of the dark side/light side and ocasional gray choices.
I played as the dual wielding version of the Sith Warrior and Jedi Knight and I was always annoyed with the system of having to build up your power so you could release your abilities, when compared with the Inquisitor and Consular and just using their powers and energy management. I could wipe out an enemy pretty quickly with a couple of powers with my Inquisitor when compared to the minute or so of hacking and slashing just to be able to use an ability to finish them off.
As for storyline, I feel that the Inquisitor gets the better storyline when compared to the Warrior. I really felt like I accomplished something when I finished it than just becoming the Emperor’s lap dog essentially.
As for Jaesa (probably not spelling that right), I played as a Dark Side Warrior and I kinda got annoyed with her slavish adoration of my character after a few conversations with her. At some point, I might play as a Light Side or Neutral version and just let her be the opposite option you can get for her so I don’t have to deal with her being that way.
But yeah, I’m glad that they changed it so that you can pick whatever option you want for your class now. Going to make playing a Warrior again more fun when I can fling lightning around like an Inquisitor.
Sith warrior was my favorite to level all the way through. it was grand. and I wholly agree, Baras should have been the Inquisitors master 100% though the rage meme of baris will forever live on in my heart.
4:40 If you go into the Oasis on Tatooine as a purely dark side sith warrior, a light side version of yourself will appear and confront you
Love that you are playing swtor. It's such a great game.
Edit: on topic, yeh it's a gigachad storyline.
Lightside Sith Warrior is among my favorites.
Honestly, I had the most fun playing as a bounty Hunter and an imperial agent. I think the non force sensitive have some really good stories.
personaly i like darth Barras, hes pretty cool id like to do some more mission for him. The begining of the story is why i have 5 sith warriors. I just love the sith academy.
I prefer sith warrior light side, way better story imo when ya do it that way
same
Light side sith warrior of my preferred way to play
Sith Inquisitor (Female) is pretty cool as well, Imperial Agent is probably the best written one and Bounty hunter is your way into roleplaying a mandalorian
Imperial agent story was amazing, definetly my favourite.
Checking to see if anybody in SWTOR remembers a redhaired smuggler (gunslinger) i played as named Dinanra.
Can’t wait to see the Inquisitor! Probably my favorite overall story
Hey man, don't know if someone already pointed it out but the red 'Alien' companion you show in the video is Khem Val and is the inquisitor companion. You get Broonmark. He is the white furry alien.
The Sith Warrior is the Gigachad story/class of SWTOR. From the story, the writing, the VA and the mechanics of the two Sith Warrior classes, it exudes gigachad.
SWtOR Guardian and Warrior always felt like they could benefit from having weaving abilities like the Gunbreaker in FFXIV.
Ready to Blast and continuation makes me continuously ready to blast if you know what I'm saying. :P
Jedi female sentinel consular was my favorite playthrough so far. I tried to uphold the Jedi teachings and sacrifice myself when possible and only resorted to straight up murdering a bad guy once when he was well beyond redemption.
Sith inquisitor next please. Only time we get our Darth titles. Darth Imperious, Occulius(reparo), Nox.
Well, actually the dialogues allow you to choose between being agressive dumb grunt or being kinda smart and perceptive. There is even a change of tone of protagonist's voice. Quite impressive, i'd say.
Nixxiom, to have mained sith warrior for gods knows how long, you have many cool ability as the marauder(dps) unlike the juggernaught(tank) Its just a shame that even the juggernaught dps subclass dont really offer much. But with the new system of combat style, you can do sith assassin as sith warrior story XD
by pure story, by far I think my personal fav is agents. gameplay is a little lack luster just pew pew. Infiltrator is a little more bearable then sharpshooter.
All the class stories were really good. Speaking on just the Sith classes, Inquisitor you could be way more evil imo, and Warrior you had more freedom to be either bad or good or something in between.
I've never finished the DS Sith Warrior storyline. I've played through other DS characters, but I got tired of basically being nothing but a psychotic thug _really_ quickly. It just felt like nothing but "Hurr durr I'm gonna kill everyone for no reason murder murder murder." No subtlety, no motivation, just pointless cruelty. Between that and abuse of your slave Vette (which I find outright sick and offensive) I just always ended up deleting the character.
Now the LS version of the Sith Warrior is the opposite. It's one of my favorite storylines. Having to walk a fine line in Sith society, moving up and gaining power without letting on that you're not a monster, it feels like more of a challenge. You get to play as someone with honor and a code, manipulating others into thinking that your sometimes-questionable choices were done for the same twisted reasons that other Sith use to justify their actions, I enjoyed the hell out of that.
well said!
I was with you up until you talked about lack of cool and grandiose abilities and that you leveled as a tank. Jugg tank honestly doesn't do much in the form of grandiose. It more just stands there and well tanks hits and damage. It'll do the flips and what not but it doesn't really do any cool animations unique to it. I'd definitely suggest playing the two dps specs, Rage and Vengeance, for unique animations or alternatively trying the Warrior's all dps class, Marauder, which has plenty of unique animations to go along with its attacks. Fury spec force punches enemies like you're shooting an energy Ki blast from DBZ, Carnage slams its lightsabers together to create a shockwave of concentrated force energy to hurl and slam into targets, and Annihilation swipes and claws with the force at targets to bloody them up, causing bleed damage.
Vengeance version of smash, which I can't remember the name of right now, that's the cool ability that always feels soo good to press, for me at least. Way cooler than force storm
U Gotta do the Agent next if u haven’t Great vid Btw ‼️💯🗣
i played mostly light but also a lot of dark, just more light, more like anti-hero so i convinced Jessa so she didn't tur to the dark side and searched for other Jedi who are fed up with Jedi council to join our cause to take town both sith and Jedi and change both worlds
i embraced the raven's way by not ratting them out cause he so that its true path to real power what he need to change the universe
I think the entire point of the Sith Warrior is supposed to be more of a living boulder that only the Emperor can throw around. If Darth Diabetus hadn't betrayed you and literally everybody else around him, he actually could have succeeded at becoming the new Emperor, but he only ever saw loose ends where the actual Emperor sees opportunities. The Emperor makes you his Wrath and you prove why in front of the entire Sith Council, while also sending a message that they no longer have a position over you. If they screw up, you are their executioner, and you will happily do your job. Hence why you leave the room with a power walk like the absolute Chad you are because you are now one of the freest and most powerful people in the Empire, unbeholden by petty politics, a weapon both feared and respected.
Sith Warrior was the first class I played in SWTOR back in 2016, and it has been my favorite so far. I enjoyed the Inquisitor but felt I had too much borrowed power. Imperial Agent was right up there in positive experience with Sith Warrior. Jedi Guardian was meh, and so far Bounty Hunter is slightly less meh.
Star Wars the Old Republic is absolutely worth coming back to, however. Especially if, like me, you haven't played through all the Class Storylines.
You should totally do the Imperial Agent next if you make this a series
recently quit wow to go back here after many years, dont regret it whatsoever
"Random soldier" Imperial Special Forces, "bug monster" wrong image, and it's a Talz, and "never a really a moment where he slows down and considers what he's doing" that was literally the point of the Tattooine Quest
i agree with most of your negatives from the story. I found inq story a bit better( i love the voice acting from Xanthe Elbrick). In combat tough....for me at least warrior is way more fun to play than inq. Cool abilities are impale, shatter and ofc vengeful slam( yes i play as a vengeance dps ). U should try the agent story line it is one of the bets in game.
Both the Sith Inquisitor and the Sith Warrior can use Force Storm. 7.0 made the sorcerer class available for the Sith Warrior.
Dude i love your points on the Sith Lifestyle
It's what I keep trying to tell Star Wars revisionists. Being a Sith is self destructive.
Best story in the game. Especially when you play it light side leaning
Cool video! Hope to see more content like this and maybe some more TOR on stream soon! :D
7/10 is a very fair ranking I agree do the jedi knight next or the agent
sith warrior has one of the best stories
I have never played Sith Warrior. I’ve dabbled in the game but not really fully enjoyed the game . Started a Warrior (maurader) and I’m hooked on the story ! So thank you for this video !!
Im hoping you will do more SWTOR class reviews this year!! 😊
In regards to the sith warrior story, I think you're wrong about them not doing more with the tragedy of the philosophy and the warrior being almost blind. The reason they didn't do that is to give the players a means to head cannon their own characters thoughts despite the fact he or she speaks in dialogue. So in between actions and then your choices reflect your head cannon as much as possible, thats why the dialogue is A B or C. To give the players head cannon options.
I think ultimately this was a really good move by them and frankly, I would of hated it if they had done as you suggested.
0:46 I call him Darth emBarras, and Quinn is Malavaiaiai
My guy showed Khem Val as Broonmark AKA "Random Bug Monster" lol
Nixxiom who do you think wins?
Jones or Gane?
Nice review, Nixxiom!
I would like to hear your review of the Sith Inquisitor, if you accept requests.
Wrath and Jaesa is the best dang thing about the whole game for me.