It's strange to see people debating this in the comments. I suppose some are upset that their favorite class isn't ranked number one, but it's pretty clear the inquisitor stands out as the most powerful in the class stories. They absorb the ghosts of half a dozen powerful force users and even need an ancient Rakata device to strengthen their body just to contain all that power.
Personal, I think that the Smuggler should have been lower, as the Force Sensitive addict was not TRAINED to use the force. Therefore had less chance against the smuggler. As for my favorite class, the Sith Warrior, let’s just say that I imagine they would be better with Darth Jaesa Willsaam by their side
Furthermore the guy was in stasis for years. Major rust. Finally the Trooper on Voss and on Belsavis takes down 2 Sith Lords in total. Far greater opponents than any of the Smuggler's omes.
Yeah and yet the damn devs have yet to make our inquisitor Emperor or Empress. I mean when it comes to the strongest in game. Players are one thing. But our character also happens to be the most powerful in the game. time and time again we kill, defeat or make our enemies and rivals bend the knee. Yet time and time again the devs won’t make us emperor even though our character talks about wanting to rule constantly… even as emperor there is still a lot we can do. after all our character regardless if a sith warrior or inquisitor says from the get go they prefer to lead by example. with that line alone would make way for more content and story. Furthermore the game might be based on the old republic but we are able to change history and possibly even the fate of the Sith. Swtor could technically make it an alternate universe/reality so to speak. That and think about it the only true threats to our Darth Nox is the former dark council members. 3 are alive Volron, Malgus and the empress herself. Same with Shaar but she wasn’t a dark councilor at the time. Plus the only true reason the empress had no challenge taking the throne was because Nox was literally frozen for 5 years. When Nox returned we became even more powerful more quickly and caught up to Arcann and Vaylina power within months, days even. Nox pretty much ran the Dark council too with the acception of Darth Marr’s help. Volron won’t raise a hand to us unless forced too, we beat malgus twice and now we are going to have to kill him (finally) or force him to bend the bend and serve us. after that however I have a feeling the devs might try something. like we can only take the throne after dealing with Malgus and Shae. at least that is the feeling I got. Idk about everyone else.
I mean the Empress feels so threatened by us she is trying to have rivix keep secrets and information… Rivix however is smart and if there is anyone in the galaxy he won’t challenge or keep secrets from it’s Nox. especially considering Nox is the most powerful Sith alive. The way I see it and this is just a theory. Rivix and the empress knows we are still far more powerful than them all. That is why they are keeping secrets. We were frozen for 5 years and yet became stronger than ever before. that and if the empress knows anything it’s that Darth Nox (us the player) is not just the most powerful but we far from stupid. Any wrong move against us. The empress will find herself thrown in the nearest star who we threatened to do to the Emperor lol (I still think that was a funny chat). To finish off everything I mean what do you guys think?. Because I personally believe the empress isn’t strong or smart enough to challenge us directly yet. And she tries to avoid our questions and whenever we mock her. Like in our first meeting with her when we first returned?. She didn’t avoid what we said because she was more powerful. Seemed like she avoided it because she knew we were more powerful. Not to mention in private the empress seemed more scared and terrified of us than in public. Did anyone else notice that little change in her?.
AGreed 100%, If you count EVERYTHING the player did, Every single Side-Quest, Every Operation,... The Player character is just the Most powerfull entity in the Old Republic by then. I'd go as far as calling them the Physical Representation of the Force itself. The Player Defeated Ancient Evils, Terrors from Beyond the Galaxy, Galaxy Destroying threats,... The List keeps going on and on and on,... Their deeds surpassed Both Luke And Anakin Skywalkers combined. It's crazy what the Player regardless of their class did by now. IF and this is a Big-damn-IF, IF the Chosen One Prophecy existed during the Old Republic era, i'd be damn sure our character is one. But alas, it's hell-bent in being exclusive to the Skywalkers. I have the feeling our character is unstoppable by now, In recent storylines they start showing that we aren't as invulnerable as we believe cuz the Mandalorians Kick our ass a few times. But having such a massive list of achievements... When and how is it going to end? How is our character going to die? Will they Die? Will the Force turn against us now that we have fullfilled our duty and ended the Immortal Emperor because afterall, 'The Force seeks balance, always' as a great man once said, so... Now that we have barely any True Rivals, will The Force balance itself by turning against us now cuz the Player is all-powerfull now? who knows.... ☺
@@galacticfirefly6060 like fr tho. At this point like our character might as well be the reincarnation of Sith King Adas. Like that’s how powerful our character is not mention how much we have achieved over the years in game.
@@galacticfirefly6060 idk if my other comment went through. But I also said too that if you pay attention to the empress and how she acts it changes. Volron, her and Malgus are the only other ones that can actually challenge us. But have ya noticed how different the empress acts?. If you are out in public like when we visit the “new” empire she acts tuff, confident and like a leader. But after you get on the shuttle and crash and are alone with her. You can hear the fear and panic in her voice like she thinks we are going to blast her with a ton of force lightning. I’ve noticed this when i played and was being angry and mocking her. But I got no clue if anyone else noticed this. Like she can get angry all she wants. But what will happen to the empire if we defeat Malgus and force him to bend the knee and serve us?. Plus we got the former Emperor Arcann (if you save him), Lana, possibly, Darth Malora too. Then you got the republic like Theron, possibly Sah’ar and her brother if we get that chance, The other Mandos too (Because let’s face the facts they ain’t returning to Shae or hetta and Shae’s second in command will more then likely join us considering we have saved their people countless times). Moff Pyron will more then likely join us considering his history with working with Nox. Plus I highly doubt Pyron will join the empress due to the fact that he himself knows what we are capable of and how powerful we are. Nox joined the dark council at a young age and possibly even the youngest dark council member known to the empire as well and the most powerful. And what does the empress have?. Some newbie Dark council members who we can literally destroy with ease?. We already did it once. So I am very very curious to see how this plays out.
we all know the sith inquisitor is the strongest. being from the lineage of kallig, someone who tulak hord considered a threat, means they have a mass of dormant potential to tap into. the rare ability to consume ancient sith ghosts and other force users gives them access to unlimited power. they don't call them the master of the dead for no reason.
the consular could defeat the first son nerfed, and with lord vivicar defeated is obvious that the healing ritual was not needed anymore, so like you said, his power would return eventualy, that makes the consular, equal or superior to the inquisitor in terms of own power (without any power up or ritual to increase his power) IMO the counsular and the inquisitor are equal in power, (only if the inquisitor use the light side chose to release de ghost obviously.). both are the perfect exaple of "knowledge means power".
This is a TRUE observation. HOWEVER, I find it disturbing in the latest expansions that ALL SUPER class with FORCE Power are reduced to a weak mortal when faced with HETA's attacks in "Showdown on Ruhnuk”. The DEV are going to have to or should indivdualize the Player character based on descisions and POWER level. Inquisitor's that kept their Ghosts and did not free them, would be more Powerful in End-Game missions and stories. 🧐
Heta Kol is a downright embarrassment for her to be a threat. Sure, when they were implementing hit and run tactics and were still mostly hidden they were a problem but knowing who and what the Hidden Chain is...they're a speed bump.
Oh it's definitely the Sith Inquisitor, the ability to bind Ghosts grants them well...... UNLIMITED PPPPOOOWWWWEERRRR!!! Imagine them binding every Ghost of Strong Force Sensitives (such as Voss) or Jedi and enemy Sith or simply strong Ghosts wondering around (Like Tulak Hord on Yavin 4), the Light Side Revan (Or after they recombined) and even Tenebrae. The Mother Machine also modified our body (possible giving us Immortality) and that Rishi Machine extends our life, the Sith Inquisitor has so much potential and sadly they've been wasted. We better get a Sith Inquisitor option to break Malgus and bring him under our control or atleast his Ghost if we kill him.
I really appreciate this man. I think these chracters are highly underatted. When you look at the Grand Champion of the Great Hunt he had the skill and abilities to combat a darkside nexu beast without even using the force. Which was known to kill generations of Mandalorian warriors. He is capable killing highly trained Rist House of assassin's who were legendary for their espionage,infiltration and assassination methods. Also able to hold his own against Revan who was known to kill armies of Mandalorian warriors and Mandalore the ultimate. Who was stated by Canderous Ordo to be the best of the Mandalorians. This not only puts the Grand Champion of the Great Hunt on par with Mandalore the ultimate but even likely surpassing him. It is no doubt in my mind that the Great Hunt was certainly a test for the players character to be groomed to be the next Mandalore. Arts lok Mandalore the Vindicated called the future Grand Champion of the Great Hunt to be his replacement for the legendary blacklist. This would mean he is on the same skill level as Mandalore the Vindicated in order for him to be worthy of being Mandalore's replacement. That would put the player's character to be the 2nd strongest Mandalorian in all of the clans. These feats are only stratching the surface. He might just be the most skilled Mandalorian in all of the lore.
Remember on Voss, when The Sith Warrior actually defeated the spiritual Dark entity thing, which TRAPPED THE EMPEROR INSIDE HIS VOICES BODY? Or maybe I misread sth.
So if a Dark Side Consular rivals a Dark Side Inquisitor, would a Light Side Consular rival a Light Side Inquisitor in your opinion? I have my Consular and Inquisitor as father and daughter in my game, both light sided, and I write them as equally matched. Just curious what someone else thinks :)
I would say a LS Inquisitor is equal to, or slightly greater than the LS Consular. As by the end, the Inquisitor frees the ghosts and returns to their original power level. Albeit, at that power level they were able to defeat the Dashade which is quite incredible, especially when you consider that Dashade also went toe to toe with Tulak Hord one time. I'd have to give it some more thought maybe... But off the bat I would place the LS Inquisitor between LS Consular and LS Knight.
@@SWCentral I think we stilll need to differetiate. A Sith Inquisitor CAN Free the Ghost even at Dark Side when they all were bound by a Blood Ritual...but in this Case one Ghost (probably the strongest in Horak-Mul) will be with him) Only a fully Light-Sided Inquisitor can not only free all Ghost but let them become one with the Force. I personally free the Ghost outside of Horak Mul ...with the Explanation that because he was a Slave he hates taking Slaves...he wants them to follow him on their own will and will take a given Word serious (of course he manipulates them to follow him...he is a Sith after all^^).
@@SWCentral LS Inquisitor and LS Consular are tied i believe since their physical feats are extrordinary. The Consular survived taking down Afflicted Jedi Masters while also getting severly weakened every time. The Inquisitor survived having his body and mind greatly tormented and endured long enough to heal him/herself. And while the Inquisitor prior to becoming Sith had a far rougher life we need to emphasize that the Consular while weakened was facing far greater threats than those the Inquisitor was facing during his weakened phase. So i'd say they are tied.
My personal rankings 8: Smuggler: The Smuggler ranks lowest primarily because the Smuggler doesn't go up many powerful enemies of note that aren't faced by the other classes. Most of the enemies in the Smuggler storyline weren't strong enough Force Wielders to become well known among the Jedi and Sith, and most of their personal victories can be attributed to overconfident or outright incompetent opposition. Even the Force Sensitive Addict could be dismissed by the potential of delusions of grandeur exaggerating his abilities to believe he was invincible in the face of a weaker enemy. 7: Jedi Consular: The Jedi Consular is the lowest ranked out of the Force Sensitive Classes. Before The Jedi Consular being able to defeat the Sith Plague regardless of how many masters were cured of the plague by the Technique would indicate that they are stronger than the average Force Users. The Consular defeats 4 Jedi Masters prior to defeating Lord Vivicar, but their sickened minds and limited reputation make it debatable if their strengths are notable. The Councilor can also choose not to cure some of the Masters, typically by killing them and no longer needs to protect the shielded masters after the Plague is stopped by killing or shielding Parkanas. However, this doesn't necessarily mean that the Consular is comparable to the classes that go up against Jedi Masters and Sith Lords that earn their reputations on the battlefield. Defeating the Children of the Emperor is a more notable feat, as this occurred after the Plague had been dealt with, when the Consular was at full strength. However, the Children of the Emperor don't appear to be much stronger different in power compared to the Sith Lords faced by the other classes, primarily because most of the Children the Consular faced were used as Sleeper Agents rather than Warriors. 6: Imperial Agent: Because of the Imperial Agent's being sent after more strategic targets, most of the Imperial Agents victories are a result of superior planning. Their most powerful enemies were the Star Cabal. The Star Cabal relied on similarly on secrecy, and was defeated by surviving their assassins long enough to find out their secrets and expose them. The Agent does have the chance to go up against a few Jedi and Sith without preparation, which seems to suggest that they're highly capable in a fight. the most powerful of them is Darth Jadus, which required using Watcher 2's plan to prevent his escape and this was in part because the Agent obtaining the Eagle's Codes made the Agent necessary for controlling the Eradicators. But being able to survive a battle against a Dark Council Member said to be second to the Emperor in terms of power is still a more impressive feat than most of the non-force sensitive classes have. 5: Trooper: The Trooper has fought against enemies that posed more credible threats than the Smuggler. A couple if Sith Lords during the campaign against the General Rakton. The Trooper also fights a number of giant war machines on foot throughout the story, which is usually a feat usually performed by the Jedi Knight and Sith Warrior at that level of frequency. 4: The Bounty Hunter: A few of the Bounty Hunters biggest targets were more reputable Jedi Masters than the ones faced by the Jedi Consular, including 2 Masters that won victories against the Mandalorians. The Bounty Hunter also has the option to kill a reputable Dark Council member, more specifically one known solely for his contributions on the battlefield. 3: Sith Warrior: The Sith Warrior was recognized as being powerful even before reaching Korriban. Darth Vengen claimed that Baras was insignificant before taking the Warrior as an apprentice, and the failure to defeat the Warrior in front of the Dark Council is proof of this. Baras sent his apprentice to face Jedi he'd historically failed against in the past and the Warrior defeated them with ease. Many Jedi Knights and Masters fell to the Warrior before he was selected as the Emperor's Wrath. The Warrior also thwarted Quinn's plan based on studying the Warriors victories, indicating that those battles hadn't even revealed his limits. He defeated all of Baras's most powerful minions on Corelia before facing Baras on Korriban. This reputation rivals some of the most powerful members of the Dark Council. 2. Jedi Knight: The Jedi Knight was selected to join the mission to capture Vitiate because of his victory against Darth Angral of the Dark Council. After defeating the Sith Warrior's predecessor, he would later face the Emperor himself after breaking free from his control. The other Sith and fallen Jedi fought along the way hardly need to be considered. Defeating Angral was already comparable to the victories against Darth Jadus, Darth Baras and his former master, and Darth Tormen. Defeating the Emperor, more so if you consider the option allow Vitiate to gain more power if you save one of the Jedi Knight's companions, is an incredible feat that just surpasses anything most of the other classes ever achieved. 1. Sith Inquisitor: The Sith Inquisitor's ability to gain power by absorbing the spirits of ancient Sith Lords elevated them to a position worthy of the Dark Council. Unlike the hard fought victory against Darth Baras, the Sith Inquisitor reached their position by becoming powerful enough to that a Darth Thanaton failed to kill them multiple times. Unlike Darth Baras, several of these attempts were handled personally and it was the Sith Inquisitor's rapidly growing power that saved them. The Sith Inquisitor's position on the Dark Council allowed them to continue seeking new ways to continue expanding their powers, including making further use of the enhancements made of Rakattan Technology to extend their lifespan and grow in power.
At the end I believe the jedi Knight and sith warrior are evenly matched and the pinnacle of power that either side could offer, with the inquisitor being slightly above them simply for his force ghost steroids and rakata tuning. I see the inquisitor bound to become a new Emperor level threat. The I can agree with and it's true that the bounty hunter and agent are hella OP but I genuinely don't believe they can beat the big 3. Unless one magically finds ysalamiri
Glad to see my main since launch at number one. Darth Nox. The slave who became a god. One thing I will give the Knight credit for... assuming he is our canon outlander, which I think he is... this would mean he killed the Emperor... over... and over... and over again. I think he slots in slightly above Darth Nox.
Not to mention being “rebuilt” and probably empowered by the mother machine and expanding their lifespan on Rishi. The sith inquisitor is basically immortal
The fact that we almost get killed as a sith warrior/inquisitior by heta kols underling who just awakened the force is stupid the wrath and nox should be a endgame boss lvl threat
Ergast, Darth Andru, Kalatosh Zavros, Horak'mul. Who's the fifth ghost? Are you counting Kallig? I finished the Inquisitor's story this week and there was no other ghost.
I always thought that the jedi counsilor would get theyr power back only if the people he used the healing ability on died he would only then get hiss power back
It’s mentioned that is what *should* happen but we don’t see any mention of it or see it during the moment if Vivicars healing session. Nonetheless, the ritual was still used many times after that moment.
I would say the LS Consular should be, at worst, tied with the DS Agent... Since they’re able to take on and win against the Emperor’s Children, especially the First Son, in less-than-ideal circumstances... Plus killing Marr’s Apprentice, Lacharis on Balmora...
I understand that, but a pure LS Consular loses power and life force the further they get into the story. That’s the thing that brings it down for my list :)
The smuggler also fights a whole squad of Abyssians, which, just like the gendai, can also regenerate. Also, I'd say the Bounty Hunter is right where he should be. On top of that, the consular is much more fun as a dark side consular.
Trust me it was hard to score these in an official capacity. When comparing the classes I had to take things in to account such as opponents defeated and how easily. Defeating the Emperor for the Jedi Knight was not easy, it took a lot of prep for them to get there and be at the exact right moment. The emperors story unfolds further which diminishes the Jedi Knights initial defeat of the emperor. The Jedi Knight took a loss, fair enough that was also the emperor but it’s still a loss. They had also had impeccable crew members, such as Lord Scourge who was a vital part of the final act. With many, many variables considered this is the list that came out as likely. But I’m totally going to understand people placing the JK higher than I did.
well done central the inquistor truly is the most powerful even if you disagree with central opnion that's the beauty we can each have our own thoughts on the situation again great work central as always
I disagree with the all of the force sensitives ranking here’s why Consular: it isn’t stated if the character recovers his/her power so to assume they didn’t is beside the point. Also the smugglers feat is impressive but we’ve seen other Jedi defeat gendai before so I would argue that feat shouldn’t the smuggler above Jedi very impressive for non force sensitive tho. Jedi knight: Defeats the emperor a being who scales to sidious. Also defeats darth angral / dark side enhanced Kira and destroys darth Angrals sith group. Sith warrior: Not really mad about the warriors placement I would say he’s behind the sith inquisitor and the Jedi knight but has more feats than the Jedi counselor (he defeated darth baras master with help , defeated darth baras, baras sister with help, and a bunch of Jedi knight and masters who I don’t care to name lmao Sith inquisitor: I have no issue with sith inq being 1/2 umm I would say that the sith inq would definitely beat the counselor and sith warrior the Jedi knight is very debatable I would say that my personal ranking in all of these would be 1:jk 2:si 3:sw 4:jc 5:bh 6:ia 7:Han solo 8:captain rec Ps love the video love swtor always love debating this topic when it comes up such a fun era of sw
My list before making the video was very similar to yours except the agent was much higher up hehe. I only see one flaw in your reasoning everything else is sound :) The consular doesn’t get power back if they choose to be LS all the way (sorta), which this video is doing, if you play DS that’s different. A fully LS consular sacrifices their own life force and power to save others!
Also I thought of a new light saber that has three fighting styles. You have the basic one handed that can snap into two parts tow make it duel wielding but the emitter while still attached is facing the same one as the single blade so that your opponents don’t notice the second emitter. The you can take the two blade and turn one upside down so that it shapes into the other creating a double bladed saber.
Agree and disagree,about the jk,even if u take base jk,he defeated the emperor,just think about it,even when the emeperor was weakened,no sith made a move on him,and lord scourge clearly stated none can defeat him,not even revan,thats why he choose to follow u,even weakened,scourge believed no sith or jedi will be able to kill the emperor,so he chooses u,and in my cannon mc,my jk is grey,he uses both light and dark sides,making him an embodiment of force,like he was always meant to be,just i disagree with u on the jk one
@@Kannayya104 If you're going to do that, try to make it different than what's been done already. For example. Someone already RP'd as Revan for the full playthrough, so don't do that. I'd go for obscure options playthrough. Such a Sith Pureblood JK who follows the light. Could be a JK who only fights for credits and you can upload the cutscenes. Best tip within all this: Just be different to what's already done *or* do it better.
@@SWCentral my jk is embodiment of the force,actually he was one of the je'ddai,thousands of years ago both of his parents were grandmasters of 2 domes of the je'ddai order,and when krishna was still a month old,the rakata suddenly attacked tython,as they all saw people falling to the light and dark sides,his parents decided to send him off tython keeping him in a force stasis but before sending him off the force temple they are on got attacked and they had to leave him inside. Then my barsenthor finds visions in the force,and a day arrived on tython like a twilight,when both ashla and bogan began to surge with power,following her visions in the force she found the entrance to the ruined temple,wayyy outside the explored ruins of tython just after the attack on coruscant. When she arrived there she went into a trance for 3 days,and both the parents of krishna(my mc name) told her why she found him,and told her that an abomination in the force has awakened and since then the force searched for an individual worthy for krishna to grow up with,for thousands of years no one was until she came,and my barsenthor is neutral in the force and spended most of the time on meditations, negotiating and even talking with pragmatic siths,so the force choose her,she had to solve few puzzles and then when she entered the temple,she saw a baby,glowing with force,she never heard or saw of an individual with such potential. Then she has visions of how the current jedi mastered brainwashed children into joining their order and how apathetic they have become,and that few members of the council have discovered her location. Not knowing what to do she meditates and the force stasis is removed,and she catches the baby and raises him as her own,fighting the council on this matter. Satele supported her but few dogmatic memebers of the council didn't,so she decided it's best to settle in the kalikori twi lek village. She would tell him the stories of the force,the wars she has fought and how one should always be balanced within. One day barsenthor was tricked into bringing krishna into a mission that was actually set up by a child of the emperor but told her that this was a small test for krishna to know his potential. Not knowing this she brings him to nar shadaa where the emperor's dark guards and brainwashed dark jedi attack her in a secluded area. They were in legion but barsenthor held herself to protect her child. But it became too much as the forces never ended. Not knowing what to do she blasts the whole area with a forbidden force ritual,grabbing krishna and running to the spaceport,where she meets scourge. Scourge tells her that children and spies of the emperor have infiltrated the republic and that the emperor felt Krishna's power from across the galaxy when he first was discovered by her,and scourge gives her a choice to give up krishna and walk away. But she refuses to give her child,of course a mother never will leave her child. Scourge attacks but she blasts the entire spaceport. The jedi on the planet,feeling this disturbance come to intervene,they see barsenthor knocked out and scourge fall into the abyss of nar shada. Emperor's forces come closer and krishna finally uses the force for the first time,crushing bones and scorching away flesh from the enemies while knocking out all the jedi. Krishna falls unconscious and a jedi enters,he takes krishna and mind washes other jedi to think the emperor's forces took him,they say this to barsenthor once she wakes up. Not wasting a single second she sets into space.... Krishna's memories about his mother was mind wiped and he was sent to taris to train under the ways of the jedi.... The story goes on how the force still guides krishna into finding balance between light and dark and be the embodiment of the force,defeating the emperor in the final act of the jk chapter and how he still has visions and vague memory of his time as a child.... The complete details about krishna are kept in archives only satele could access. Even though she knew she thought it wasn't the time to tell him as krishna had a strange journey of being guided by the force. And everyone around him since childhood could feel he was meant for something greater,something none around him could achieve
is here someone who played dark sidr cons and could explain what would make him/her that much more powerful that a light side one? im really curious now and have yet to play a ds cons
a fully LS Consular who makes all LS choices, will lose most of their life force and power through using the healing ritual. However, a DS Consular does not make those choices and loses no power, only gains it as they carve a path of destruction through the Emperors children. A DS Consular might be a more brutal playthrough than any of the Sith campaigns. No one expects a Jedi to be so... cruel.
@@SWCentral LS Consular does get his strength back. Rewatch the Coruscant Jedi Temple mission for the Consular. The Noetikon Yoda states that once the Plaguemaster's bond with his victims is broken then the strength that was spent will return. Redeeming Vivicar results in him releasing the bond willingly and thus the JC does get his/her strength back.
@@barone8889 The story does not reflect this in any way it’s never brought up again was my point in the video which is really weird to me haha. Seeing it happen would be good. Vandar was speaking theoretically and did not have a definitive answer and could not confirm that notion. The previous Barsenthor died doing the same thing. Anyways, Vivicars defeat happens quite quickly and by the time you’ve defeated him, the amount of people you’ve healed is less than half the total number for the entire story. The ritual is used many times after Vivicar being the point here :) Hope this helps!
@@SWCentral Hang on a minute.Vandar was NOT speaking theoretically. Go rewatch the mission i metnioned. How many times after chapter 1 is the healing rtual used again? I know there is a use of it on Balmorra BUT considering it has no effect on the President it's reasonable to assume that the Consular removes the shielding immediately and thus regains his strength. Can you please mention where the Ritual is used post chapter 1?
I dont know if this is a troll video or not but its pretty much all wrong anyways. SI as the strongest? The protagonist is literally a one trick pony and once you take away or shield away their spirits they are lackluster to say the least. Bounty hunter has a lot of plot armor but cannot kill even 4 simple targets (Cathar even beats him to it), Jedi Knight often goes into places totally unprepared. Jedi Consular is the strongest in the force, has best grasp in politics and economy, can defend well with lightsaber and never faces any true problem because he/she deals with the problems with total ease. Actually I think Jedi COnsular would solo 1v4 all tech classes on the way to stop the Inquisitor like no other and the only ones who could actually prove to be a challenge are Knight and Warrior if they can close the distance. (especially the part where the power doesnt return to the consular - before you finish off Lord Vivicar everyone tells you you look weak but never again during act 2 and act 3 - you just missed that you actually indeed recovered the strength, not to mention even if you were right, it means that if they indeed didnt recover anything, only very small part of their power was able to defeat the First son, kill Sith dark council members and more AND if that guy ever discovers the Voss or Belsavis healing, they would be so powerful that they probably could 1v8) I would say 1 strongest, 8 weakest 1. Jedi Consular 2. Sith Warrior 3. Jedi Knight 4. Sith Inquisitor 5. Smuggler 6. Bounty hunter 7. Trooper 8. Imperial agent
I stated that we assume each are aligned with their home faction. Jedi = LS and such. The LS Consular does not get the power back. It is that simple. It’s alright saying “this a troll video and it’s all wrong” but all you said in response is that consular is your favourite while stretching to diss the other classes haha. Listen to the lore and reasons presented. On paper, Inquisitor wins hands down no contest. You’re free to an opinion but please don’t assume no work into this or is just trolling you. Valid reasons and logic is laid out to you.
@@SWCentral I gave you valid reasons, you just think they are "dissing on the other classes". The fact you use "haha" afterwards show immaturity. I gave all lore reasons. All you state is your opinion without actually disproving anything I say. This very comment is "I say about others what I know is true of myself. I think this is where we part ways. Enjoy the rest of your adventures but I sure wont be sharing it because with this video and especially with this comment you proved to me that you are not worth my time. Have a nice day.
I could see the argument made about the Consular. However, you vastly underestimate the Inquisitor's power. Saying the Inquisitor is "nothing without the ghosts" is clear misinformation. The Inquisitor comes from the Kalig line and is widely considered to be the successor to Tulak Hord. The only times the Inquisitor loses is when they can't control their own power, which they later fix and become more powerful and durable, both physically and spiritually. Not to mention the fact that the other classes have no way of dealing with the ghosts as they're not aware of force walking or how it works. The Jedi Knight is strong but has lost before, against the Emperor and was only able to beat the Emperor because of help he had through his old master and the fact that the Emperor was severely weakened at the time. And at the end of the day the Jedi Knight only slows the Emperor down, which is the most disappointing part of that story unfortunately. The Sith Warrior is definitely a beast in his own right but lacks the force knowledge to face the Inquisitor head-on. The Consular is the only one that maybe stands a chance if we assume the sealing technique does anything to the Inquisitor. But I'm not sure if they can somehow purify the Inquisitor and take the ghosts out. It's a bit of a stretch.
@@Dark_Voice Nope, you gave fan fare logic. Me saying “haha” proves immaturity? Careful. Saying something like that means you can never write “haha” again without becoming a hypocrite. You opened your comment up with my video being a troll. This alone opened you up to a whole can of criticism on my end, so far it’s been very tame. Next time approach a debate as a debate rather than loading your initial statement so you can play moral high ground after the fact. My reasons for the list are the in the video, clear as crystal. You’re free to refer back to them as to disprove any of your original notion. Thanks. You’re more than welcome not to come back, if you so wish. You do you 🍻
It's strange to see people debating this in the comments. I suppose some are upset that their favorite class isn't ranked number one, but it's pretty clear the inquisitor stands out as the most powerful in the class stories. They absorb the ghosts of half a dozen powerful force users and even need an ancient Rakata device to strengthen their body just to contain all that power.
Ah it’s okay :) was bound to happen with the comments. Hopefully most will listen to the reasons given ❤️
Everybody else is doing their job or trying to improve their side. Inquisitor is literally trying to become a God. 😂
Wrong... You are the most powerful in SWTOR
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Hahaha true!
No denying that!
Wanna prove that? Hop to the Arena right now.
I fully agree! The Sith Inquisitor was a true master of the Dark Side!
Cyber you’re a member now! Welcome 😎
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Personal, I think that the Smuggler should have been lower, as the Force Sensitive addict was not TRAINED to use the force. Therefore had less chance against the smuggler.
As for my favorite class, the Sith Warrior, let’s just say that I imagine they would be better with Darth Jaesa Willsaam by their side
Furthermore the guy was in stasis for years. Major rust. Finally the Trooper on Voss and on Belsavis takes down 2 Sith Lords in total. Far greater opponents than any of the Smuggler's omes.
Yeah and yet the damn devs have yet to make our inquisitor Emperor or Empress. I mean when it comes to the strongest in game. Players are one thing. But our character also happens to be the most powerful in the game. time and time again we kill, defeat or make our enemies and rivals bend the knee. Yet time and time again the devs won’t make us emperor even though our character talks about wanting to rule constantly… even as emperor there is still a lot we can do. after all our character regardless if a sith warrior or inquisitor says from the get go they prefer to lead by example. with that line alone would make way for more content and story. Furthermore the game might be based on the old republic but we are able to change history and possibly even the fate of the Sith. Swtor could technically make it an alternate universe/reality so to speak. That and think about it the only true threats to our Darth Nox is the former dark council members. 3 are alive Volron, Malgus and the empress herself. Same with Shaar but she wasn’t a dark councilor at the time.
Plus the only true reason the empress had no challenge taking the throne was because Nox was literally frozen for 5 years. When Nox returned we became even more powerful more quickly and caught up to Arcann and Vaylina power within months, days even. Nox pretty much ran the Dark council too with the acception of Darth Marr’s help. Volron won’t raise a hand to us unless forced too, we beat malgus twice and now we are going to have to kill him (finally) or force him to bend the bend and serve us. after that however I have a feeling the devs might try something. like we can only take the throne after dealing with Malgus and Shae. at least that is the feeling I got. Idk about everyone else.
I mean the Empress feels so threatened by us she is trying to have rivix keep secrets and information… Rivix however is smart and if there is anyone in the galaxy he won’t challenge or keep secrets from it’s Nox. especially considering Nox is the most powerful Sith alive. The way I see it and this is just a theory. Rivix and the empress knows we are still far more powerful than them all. That is why they are keeping secrets. We were frozen for 5 years and yet became stronger than ever before. that and if the empress knows anything it’s that Darth Nox (us the player) is not just the most powerful but we far from stupid. Any wrong move against us. The empress will find herself thrown in the nearest star who we threatened to do to the Emperor lol (I still think that was a funny chat).
To finish off everything I mean what do you guys think?. Because I personally believe the empress isn’t strong or smart enough to challenge us directly yet. And she tries to avoid our questions and whenever we mock her. Like in our first meeting with her when we first returned?. She didn’t avoid what we said because she was more powerful. Seemed like she avoided it because she knew we were more powerful. Not to mention in private the empress seemed more scared and terrified of us than in public. Did anyone else notice that little change in her?.
AGreed 100%, If you count EVERYTHING the player did, Every single Side-Quest, Every Operation,... The Player character is just the Most powerfull entity in the Old Republic by then.
I'd go as far as calling them the Physical Representation of the Force itself.
The Player Defeated Ancient Evils, Terrors from Beyond the Galaxy, Galaxy Destroying threats,... The List keeps going on and on and on,... Their deeds surpassed Both Luke And Anakin Skywalkers combined.
It's crazy what the Player regardless of their class did by now.
IF and this is a Big-damn-IF, IF the Chosen One Prophecy existed during the Old Republic era, i'd be damn sure our character is one. But alas, it's hell-bent in being exclusive to the Skywalkers.
I have the feeling our character is unstoppable by now, In recent storylines they start showing that we aren't as invulnerable as we believe cuz the Mandalorians Kick our ass a few times.
But having such a massive list of achievements... When and how is it going to end? How is our character going to die? Will they Die? Will the Force turn against us now that we have fullfilled our duty and ended the Immortal Emperor because afterall, 'The Force seeks balance, always' as a great man once said, so... Now that we have barely any True Rivals, will The Force balance itself by turning against us now cuz the Player is all-powerfull now? who knows.... ☺
@@galacticfirefly6060 like fr tho. At this point like our character might as well be the reincarnation of Sith King Adas. Like that’s how powerful our character is not mention how much we have achieved over the years in game.
@@galacticfirefly6060 idk if my other comment went through. But I also said too that if you pay attention to the empress and how she acts it changes. Volron, her and Malgus are the only other ones that can actually challenge us. But have ya noticed how different the empress acts?. If you are out in public like when we visit the “new” empire she acts tuff, confident and like a leader. But after you get on the shuttle and crash and are alone with her. You can hear the fear and panic in her voice like she thinks we are going to blast her with a ton of force lightning. I’ve noticed this when i played and was being angry and mocking her. But I got no clue if anyone else noticed this. Like she can get angry all she wants. But what will happen to the empire if we defeat Malgus and force him to bend the knee and serve us?. Plus we got the former Emperor Arcann (if you save him), Lana, possibly, Darth Malora too. Then you got the republic like Theron, possibly Sah’ar and her brother if we get that chance, The other Mandos too (Because let’s face the facts they ain’t returning to Shae or hetta and Shae’s second in command will more then likely join us considering we have saved their people countless times). Moff Pyron will more then likely join us considering his history with working with Nox. Plus I highly doubt Pyron will join the empress due to the fact that he himself knows what we are capable of and how powerful we are. Nox joined the dark council at a young age and possibly even the youngest dark council member known to the empire as well and the most powerful.
And what does the empress have?. Some newbie Dark council members who we can literally destroy with ease?. We already did it once. So I am very very curious to see how this plays out.
we all know the sith inquisitor is the strongest. being from the lineage of kallig, someone who tulak hord considered a threat, means they have a mass of dormant potential to tap into.
the rare ability to consume ancient sith ghosts and other force users gives them access to unlimited power. they don't call them the master of the dead for no reason.
Pretty much!
the consular could defeat the first son nerfed, and with lord vivicar defeated is obvious that the healing ritual was not needed anymore, so like you said, his power would return eventualy, that makes the consular, equal or superior to the inquisitor in terms of own power (without any power up or ritual to increase his power) IMO the counsular and the inquisitor are equal in power, (only if the inquisitor use the light side chose to release de ghost obviously.). both are the perfect exaple of "knowledge means power".
I second this
A fair analysis I think! It’s funny, the longer you think about this topic, the more the list changes!
This is a TRUE observation. HOWEVER, I find it disturbing in the latest expansions that ALL SUPER class with FORCE Power are reduced to a weak mortal when faced with HETA's attacks in "Showdown on Ruhnuk”. The DEV are going to have to or should indivdualize the Player character based on descisions and POWER level. Inquisitor's that kept their Ghosts and did not free them, would be more Powerful in End-Game missions and stories.
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Agree. I've noticed this a lot since Onslaught!
Heta Kol is a downright embarrassment for her to be a threat. Sure, when they were implementing hit and run tactics and were still mostly hidden they were a problem but knowing who and what the Hidden Chain is...they're a speed bump.
Oh it's definitely the Sith Inquisitor, the ability to bind Ghosts grants them well...... UNLIMITED PPPPOOOWWWWEERRRR!!! Imagine them binding every Ghost of Strong Force Sensitives (such as Voss) or Jedi and enemy Sith or simply strong Ghosts wondering around (Like Tulak Hord on Yavin 4), the Light Side Revan (Or after they recombined) and even Tenebrae. The Mother Machine also modified our body (possible giving us Immortality) and that Rishi Machine extends our life, the Sith Inquisitor has so much potential and sadly they've been wasted.
We better get a Sith Inquisitor option to break Malgus and bring him under our control or atleast his Ghost if we kill him.
I really appreciate this man. I think these chracters are highly underatted. When you look at the Grand Champion of the Great Hunt he had the skill and abilities to combat a darkside nexu beast without even using the force. Which was known to kill generations of Mandalorian warriors. He is capable killing highly trained Rist House of assassin's who were legendary for their espionage,infiltration and assassination methods. Also able to hold his own against Revan who was known to kill armies of Mandalorian warriors and Mandalore the ultimate. Who was stated by Canderous Ordo to be the best of the Mandalorians. This not only puts the Grand Champion of the Great Hunt on par with Mandalore the ultimate but even likely surpassing him. It is no doubt in my mind that the Great Hunt was certainly a test for the players character to be groomed to be the next Mandalore. Arts lok Mandalore the Vindicated called the future Grand Champion of the Great Hunt to be his replacement for the legendary blacklist. This would mean he is on the same skill level as Mandalore the Vindicated in order for him to be worthy of being Mandalore's replacement. That would put the player's character to be the 2nd strongest Mandalorian in all of the clans. These feats are only stratching the surface. He might just be the most skilled Mandalorian in all of the lore.
Funny how I went with Sith Marauder and the Sith Inquisitor story suited him perfectly, mainly for character reasons.
Ah, my Willow Blackthorn made the number 1 spot on this list. I am pleased 😄
Honestly for me it’s probably my favorite the sith warrior who’s really awesome and badass in my opinion
Sith Inquisitor because his signature power is the same as the Emperor, i.e. consume death
Ooh awesome let’s go baby 😊
Remember on Voss, when The Sith Warrior actually defeated the spiritual Dark entity thing, which TRAPPED THE EMPEROR INSIDE HIS VOICES BODY? Or maybe I misread sth.
The warrior struck down the emperors body so he could leave the tomb :) they did however fight Sel Makor through the Emperor. Which is note worthy!
In cannon though, the Sith Inquisitor is LS which makes her more powerful. Spamming Force LIGHT-ning...
There is no canon version haha.
Maybe the real canon was the friends we shocked along the way?
@@MysticTroll I’ll drink to that 🍻
you should do video about the strongest class companions it be more interesting see witch class companion would come on top
Say no more, I’m on it
Obviously Blizz is the most powerful.
So if a Dark Side Consular rivals a Dark Side Inquisitor, would a Light Side Consular rival a Light Side Inquisitor in your opinion? I have my Consular and Inquisitor as father and daughter in my game, both light sided, and I write them as equally matched. Just curious what someone else thinks :)
I would say a LS Inquisitor is equal to, or slightly greater than the LS Consular. As by the end, the Inquisitor frees the ghosts and returns to their original power level. Albeit, at that power level they were able to defeat the Dashade which is quite incredible, especially when you consider that Dashade also went toe to toe with Tulak Hord one time.
I'd have to give it some more thought maybe... But off the bat I would place the LS Inquisitor between LS Consular and LS Knight.
@@SWCentral I think we stilll need to differetiate. A Sith Inquisitor CAN Free the Ghost even at Dark Side when they all were bound by a Blood Ritual...but in this Case one Ghost (probably the strongest in Horak-Mul) will be with him)
Only a fully Light-Sided Inquisitor can not only free all Ghost but let them become one with the Force.
I personally free the Ghost outside of Horak Mul ...with the Explanation that because he was a Slave he hates taking Slaves...he wants them to follow him on their own will and will take a given Word serious (of course he manipulates them to follow him...he is a Sith after all^^).
@@SWCentral LS Inquisitor and LS Consular are tied i believe since their physical feats are extrordinary. The Consular survived taking down Afflicted Jedi Masters while also getting severly weakened every time. The Inquisitor survived having his body and mind greatly tormented and endured long enough to heal him/herself. And while the Inquisitor prior to becoming Sith had a far rougher life we need to emphasize that the Consular while weakened was facing far greater threats than those the Inquisitor was facing during his weakened phase. So i'd say they are tied.
My personal rankings
8: Smuggler: The Smuggler ranks lowest primarily because the Smuggler doesn't go up many powerful enemies of note that aren't faced by the other classes. Most of the enemies in the Smuggler storyline weren't strong enough Force Wielders to become well known among the Jedi and Sith, and most of their personal victories can be attributed to overconfident or outright incompetent opposition. Even the Force Sensitive Addict could be dismissed by the potential of delusions of grandeur exaggerating his abilities to believe he was invincible in the face of a weaker enemy.
7: Jedi Consular: The Jedi Consular is the lowest ranked out of the Force Sensitive Classes. Before The Jedi Consular being able to defeat the Sith Plague regardless of how many masters were cured of the plague by the Technique would indicate that they are stronger than the average Force Users. The Consular defeats 4 Jedi Masters prior to defeating Lord Vivicar, but their sickened minds and limited reputation make it debatable if their strengths are notable. The Councilor can also choose not to cure some of the Masters, typically by killing them and no longer needs to protect the shielded masters after the Plague is stopped by killing or shielding Parkanas. However, this doesn't necessarily mean that the Consular is comparable to the classes that go up against Jedi Masters and Sith Lords that earn their reputations on the battlefield. Defeating the Children of the Emperor is a more notable feat, as this occurred after the Plague had been dealt with, when the Consular was at full strength. However, the Children of the Emperor don't appear to be much stronger different in power compared to the Sith Lords faced by the other classes, primarily because most of the Children the Consular faced were used as Sleeper Agents rather than Warriors.
6: Imperial Agent: Because of the Imperial Agent's being sent after more strategic targets, most of the Imperial Agents victories are a result of superior planning. Their most powerful enemies were the Star Cabal. The Star Cabal relied on similarly on secrecy, and was defeated by surviving their assassins long enough to find out their secrets and expose them. The Agent does have the chance to go up against a few Jedi and Sith without preparation, which seems to suggest that they're highly capable in a fight. the most powerful of them is Darth Jadus, which required using Watcher 2's plan to prevent his escape and this was in part because the Agent obtaining the Eagle's Codes made the Agent necessary for controlling the Eradicators. But being able to survive a battle against a Dark Council Member said to be second to the Emperor in terms of power is still a more impressive feat than most of the non-force sensitive classes have.
5: Trooper: The Trooper has fought against enemies that posed more credible threats than the Smuggler. A couple if Sith Lords during the campaign against the General Rakton. The Trooper also fights a number of giant war machines on foot throughout the story, which is usually a feat usually performed by the Jedi Knight and Sith Warrior at that level of frequency.
4: The Bounty Hunter: A few of the Bounty Hunters biggest targets were more reputable Jedi Masters than the ones faced by the Jedi Consular, including 2 Masters that won victories against the Mandalorians. The Bounty Hunter also has the option to kill a reputable Dark Council member, more specifically one known solely for his contributions on the battlefield.
3: Sith Warrior: The Sith Warrior was recognized as being powerful even before reaching Korriban. Darth Vengen claimed that Baras was insignificant before taking the Warrior as an apprentice, and the failure to defeat the Warrior in front of the Dark Council is proof of this. Baras sent his apprentice to face Jedi he'd historically failed against in the past and the Warrior defeated them with ease. Many Jedi Knights and Masters fell to the Warrior before he was selected as the Emperor's Wrath. The Warrior also thwarted Quinn's plan based on studying the Warriors victories, indicating that those battles hadn't even revealed his limits. He defeated all of Baras's most powerful minions on Corelia before facing Baras on Korriban. This reputation rivals some of the most powerful members of the Dark Council.
2. Jedi Knight: The Jedi Knight was selected to join the mission to capture Vitiate because of his victory against Darth Angral of the Dark Council. After defeating the Sith Warrior's predecessor, he would later face the Emperor himself after breaking free from his control. The other Sith and fallen Jedi fought along the way hardly need to be considered. Defeating Angral was already comparable to the victories against Darth Jadus, Darth Baras and his former master, and Darth Tormen. Defeating the Emperor, more so if you consider the option allow Vitiate to gain more power if you save one of the Jedi Knight's companions, is an incredible feat that just surpasses anything most of the other classes ever achieved.
1. Sith Inquisitor: The Sith Inquisitor's ability to gain power by absorbing the spirits of ancient Sith Lords elevated them to a position worthy of the Dark Council. Unlike the hard fought victory against Darth Baras, the Sith Inquisitor reached their position by becoming powerful enough to that a Darth Thanaton failed to kill them multiple times. Unlike Darth Baras, several of these attempts were handled personally and it was the Sith Inquisitor's rapidly growing power that saved them. The Sith Inquisitor's position on the Dark Council allowed them to continue seeking new ways to continue expanding their powers, including making further use of the enhancements made of Rakattan Technology to extend their lifespan and grow in power.
At the end I believe the jedi Knight and sith warrior are evenly matched and the pinnacle of power that either side could offer, with the inquisitor being slightly above them simply for his force ghost steroids and rakata tuning. I see the inquisitor bound to become a new Emperor level threat.
The I can agree with and it's true that the bounty hunter and agent are hella OP but I genuinely don't believe they can beat the big 3. Unless one magically finds ysalamiri
Off topic ,and lore aside , I enjoy every single class, imp and pub, in the game which makes swtors decline in expansion quality even more saddening.
Glad to see my main since launch at number one. Darth Nox. The slave who became a god. One thing I will give the Knight credit for... assuming he is our canon outlander, which I think he is... this would mean he killed the Emperor... over... and over... and over again. I think he slots in slightly above Darth Nox.
Not to mention being “rebuilt” and probably empowered by the mother machine and expanding their lifespan on Rishi. The sith inquisitor is basically immortal
The fact that we almost get killed as a sith warrior/inquisitior by heta kols underling who just awakened the force is stupid the wrath and nox should be a endgame boss lvl threat
I’m pretty sure my smuggler kicking robots in their balls makes him the strongest 😂
Man JK and SW are just build different
Darth Nox Rules once again🥳🥳
Ergast, Darth Andru, Kalatosh Zavros, Horak'mul. Who's the fifth ghost? Are you counting Kallig? I finished the Inquisitor's story this week and there was no other ghost.
Mar-da, encountered on Voss :) Bonus ghost for the hungry Sith!
Chad/stacy sith inquisitor
I feel vindicated! Bounty Hunter got days!!!
*grabs holster*
“I can bring you in warm, or cold”
I always thought that the jedi counsilor would get theyr power back only if the people he used the healing ability on died he would only then get hiss power back
It’s mentioned that is what *should* happen but we don’t see any mention of it or see it during the moment if Vivicars healing session. Nonetheless, the ritual was still used many times after that moment.
I would say the LS Consular should be, at worst, tied with the DS Agent... Since they’re able to take on and win against the Emperor’s Children, especially the First Son, in less-than-ideal circumstances... Plus killing Marr’s Apprentice, Lacharis on Balmora...
I understand that, but a pure LS Consular loses power and life force the further they get into the story. That’s the thing that brings it down for my list :)
Of course I know him, he's me
The smuggler also fights a whole squad of Abyssians, which, just like the gendai, can also regenerate. Also, I'd say the Bounty Hunter is right where he should be. On top of that, the consular is much more fun as a dark side consular.
I really need to do a DS consular analysis!
I'm sorry I disagree. The Jedi Knight defeated too many force users not to be number one, or at least a close two.
Trust me it was hard to score these in an official capacity. When comparing the classes I had to take things in to account such as opponents defeated and how easily. Defeating the Emperor for the Jedi Knight was not easy, it took a lot of prep for them to get there and be at the exact right moment. The emperors story unfolds further which diminishes the Jedi Knights initial defeat of the emperor.
The Jedi Knight took a loss, fair enough that was also the emperor but it’s still a loss. They had also had impeccable crew members, such as Lord Scourge who was a vital part of the final act.
With many, many variables considered this is the list that came out as likely. But I’m totally going to understand people placing the JK higher than I did.
well done central the inquistor truly is the most powerful even if you disagree with central opnion that's the beauty we can each have our own thoughts on the situation again great work central as always
Thanks friend!
I disagree with the all of the force sensitives ranking here’s why
Consular: it isn’t stated if the character recovers his/her power so to assume they didn’t is beside the point. Also the smugglers feat is impressive but we’ve seen other Jedi defeat gendai before so I would argue that feat shouldn’t the smuggler above Jedi very impressive for non force sensitive tho.
Jedi knight: Defeats the emperor a being who scales to sidious. Also defeats darth angral / dark side enhanced Kira and destroys darth Angrals sith group.
Sith warrior: Not really mad about the warriors placement I would say he’s behind the sith inquisitor and the Jedi knight but has more feats than the Jedi counselor (he defeated darth baras master with help , defeated darth baras, baras sister with help, and a bunch of Jedi knight and masters who I don’t care to name lmao
Sith inquisitor: I have no issue with sith inq being 1/2 umm I would say that the sith inq would definitely beat the counselor and sith warrior the Jedi knight is very debatable
I would say that my personal ranking in all of these would be
1:jk
2:si
3:sw
4:jc
5:bh
6:ia
7:Han solo
8:captain rec
Ps love the video love swtor always love debating this topic when it comes up such a fun era of sw
My list before making the video was very similar to yours except the agent was much higher up hehe. I only see one flaw in your reasoning everything else is sound :)
The consular doesn’t get power back if they choose to be LS all the way (sorta), which this video is doing, if you play DS that’s different. A fully LS consular sacrifices their own life force and power to save others!
I just checked today ur right counselor was easily my least fave play through lmaoooo great vid thx for the response!
Don’t care about power just want to be a jedi
Also I thought of a new light saber that has three fighting styles. You have the basic one handed that can snap into two parts tow make it duel wielding but the emitter while still attached is facing the same one as the single blade so that your opponents don’t notice the second emitter. The you can take the two blade and turn one upside down so that it shapes into the other creating a double bladed saber.
i completly agree with this list
Thank you 🙏
11:21 good use of the summary I gave you about the bounty hunter.
Glad you noticed that! ♥️
Wrath
this is not sound
No pound? 🫠
Keep it up.
Will do!
Agree and disagree,about the jk,even if u take base jk,he defeated the emperor,just think about it,even when the emeperor was weakened,no sith made a move on him,and lord scourge clearly stated none can defeat him,not even revan,thats why he choose to follow u,even weakened,scourge believed no sith or jedi will be able to kill the emperor,so he chooses u,and in my cannon mc,my jk is grey,he uses both light and dark sides,making him an embodiment of force,like he was always meant to be,just i disagree with u on the jk one
That’s more than fair :)
@@SWCentral hey man,I really wanna start posting my jk story on yt,any suggestions? Like is it a good idea ??
@@Kannayya104 If you're going to do that, try to make it different than what's been done already.
For example. Someone already RP'd as Revan for the full playthrough, so don't do that.
I'd go for obscure options playthrough. Such a Sith Pureblood JK who follows the light.
Could be a JK who only fights for credits and you can upload the cutscenes.
Best tip within all this: Just be different to what's already done *or* do it better.
@@SWCentral my jk is embodiment of the force,actually he was one of the je'ddai,thousands of years ago both of his parents were grandmasters of 2 domes of the je'ddai order,and when krishna was still a month old,the rakata suddenly attacked tython,as they all saw people falling to the light and dark sides,his parents decided to send him off tython keeping him in a force stasis but before sending him off the force temple they are on got attacked and they had to leave him inside.
Then my barsenthor finds visions in the force,and a day arrived on tython like a twilight,when both ashla and bogan began to surge with power,following her visions in the force she found the entrance to the ruined temple,wayyy outside the explored ruins of tython just after the attack on coruscant. When she arrived there she went into a trance for 3 days,and both the parents of krishna(my mc name) told her why she found him,and told her that an abomination in the force has awakened and since then the force searched for an individual worthy for krishna to grow up with,for thousands of years no one was until she came,and my barsenthor is neutral in the force and spended most of the time on meditations, negotiating and even talking with pragmatic siths,so the force choose her,she had to solve few puzzles and then when she entered the temple,she saw a baby,glowing with force,she never heard or saw of an individual with such potential. Then she has visions of how the current jedi mastered brainwashed children into joining their order and how apathetic they have become,and that few members of the council have discovered her location. Not knowing what to do she meditates and the force stasis is removed,and she catches the baby and raises him as her own,fighting the council on this matter. Satele supported her but few dogmatic memebers of the council didn't,so she decided it's best to settle in the kalikori twi lek village. She would tell him the stories of the force,the wars she has fought and how one should always be balanced within.
One day barsenthor was tricked into bringing krishna into a mission that was actually set up by a child of the emperor but told her that this was a small test for krishna to know his potential. Not knowing this she brings him to nar shadaa where the emperor's dark guards and brainwashed dark jedi attack her in a secluded area. They were in legion but barsenthor held herself to protect her child. But it became too much as the forces never ended. Not knowing what to do she blasts the whole area with a forbidden force ritual,grabbing krishna and running to the spaceport,where she meets scourge. Scourge tells her that children and spies of the emperor have infiltrated the republic and that the emperor felt Krishna's power from across the galaxy when he first was discovered by her,and scourge gives her a choice to give up krishna and walk away. But she refuses to give her child,of course a mother never will leave her child. Scourge attacks but she blasts the entire spaceport. The jedi on the planet,feeling this disturbance come to intervene,they see barsenthor knocked out and scourge fall into the abyss of nar shada. Emperor's forces come closer and krishna finally uses the force for the first time,crushing bones and scorching away flesh from the enemies while knocking out all the jedi. Krishna falls unconscious and a jedi enters,he takes krishna and mind washes other jedi to think the emperor's forces took him,they say this to barsenthor once she wakes up. Not wasting a single second she sets into space....
Krishna's memories about his mother was mind wiped and he was sent to taris to train under the ways of the jedi....
The story goes on how the force still guides krishna into finding balance between light and dark and be the embodiment of the force,defeating the emperor in the final act of the jk chapter and how he still has visions and vague memory of his time as a child....
The complete details about krishna are kept in archives only satele could access. Even though she knew she thought it wasn't the time to tell him as krishna had a strange journey of being guided by the force. And everyone around him since childhood could feel he was meant for something greater,something none around him could achieve
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is here someone who played dark sidr cons and could explain what would make him/her that much more powerful that a light side one? im really curious now and have yet to play a ds cons
a fully LS Consular who makes all LS choices, will lose most of their life force and power through using the healing ritual. However, a DS Consular does not make those choices and loses no power, only gains it as they carve a path of destruction through the Emperors children. A DS Consular might be a more brutal playthrough than any of the Sith campaigns.
No one expects a Jedi to be so... cruel.
@@SWCentral oh well, so easy of an explanation. i guess i know what to do after my ds knight.
thanks very much
@@SWCentral LS Consular does get his strength back. Rewatch the Coruscant Jedi Temple mission for the Consular. The Noetikon Yoda states that once the Plaguemaster's bond with his victims is broken then the strength that was spent will return. Redeeming Vivicar results in him releasing the bond willingly and thus the JC does get his/her strength back.
@@barone8889 The story does not reflect this in any way it’s never brought up again was my point in the video which is really weird to me haha. Seeing it happen would be good.
Vandar was speaking theoretically and did not have a definitive answer and could not confirm that notion. The previous Barsenthor died doing the same thing.
Anyways, Vivicars defeat happens quite quickly and by the time you’ve defeated him, the amount of people you’ve healed is less than half the total number for the entire story. The ritual is used many times after Vivicar being the point here :)
Hope this helps!
@@SWCentral Hang on a minute.Vandar was NOT speaking theoretically. Go rewatch the mission i metnioned. How many times after chapter 1 is the healing rtual used again? I know there is a use of it on Balmorra BUT considering it has no effect on the President it's reasonable to assume that the Consular removes the shielding immediately and thus regains his strength. Can you please mention where the Ritual is used post chapter 1?
I dont know if this is a troll video or not but its pretty much all wrong anyways. SI as the strongest? The protagonist is literally a one trick pony and once you take away or shield away their spirits they are lackluster to say the least. Bounty hunter has a lot of plot armor but cannot kill even 4 simple targets (Cathar even beats him to it), Jedi Knight often goes into places totally unprepared.
Jedi Consular is the strongest in the force, has best grasp in politics and economy, can defend well with lightsaber and never faces any true problem because he/she deals with the problems with total ease. Actually I think Jedi COnsular would solo 1v4 all tech classes on the way to stop the Inquisitor like no other and the only ones who could actually prove to be a challenge are Knight and Warrior if they can close the distance. (especially the part where the power doesnt return to the consular - before you finish off Lord Vivicar everyone tells you you look weak but never again during act 2 and act 3 - you just missed that you actually indeed recovered the strength, not to mention even if you were right, it means that if they indeed didnt recover anything, only very small part of their power was able to defeat the First son, kill Sith dark council members and more AND if that guy ever discovers the Voss or Belsavis healing, they would be so powerful that they probably could 1v8)
I would say 1 strongest, 8 weakest
1. Jedi Consular
2. Sith Warrior
3. Jedi Knight
4. Sith Inquisitor
5. Smuggler
6. Bounty hunter
7. Trooper
8. Imperial agent
I stated that we assume each are aligned with their home faction. Jedi = LS and such.
The LS Consular does not get the power back. It is that simple.
It’s alright saying “this a troll video and it’s all wrong” but all you said in response is that consular is your favourite while stretching to diss the other classes haha. Listen to the lore and reasons presented.
On paper, Inquisitor wins hands down no contest. You’re free to an opinion but please don’t assume no work into this or is just trolling you. Valid reasons and logic is laid out to you.
@@SWCentral I gave you valid reasons, you just think they are "dissing on the other classes". The fact you use "haha" afterwards show immaturity. I gave all lore reasons. All you state is your opinion without actually disproving anything I say.
This very comment is "I say about others what I know is true of myself. I think this is where we part ways. Enjoy the rest of your adventures but I sure wont be sharing it because with this video and especially with this comment you proved to me that you are not worth my time. Have a nice day.
@@Dark_Voice Here, have a Snickers bar, on me. 😁
I could see the argument made about the Consular. However, you vastly underestimate the Inquisitor's power. Saying the Inquisitor is "nothing without the ghosts" is clear misinformation. The Inquisitor comes from the Kalig line and is widely considered to be the successor to Tulak Hord.
The only times the Inquisitor loses is when they can't control their own power, which they later fix and become more powerful and durable, both physically and spiritually. Not to mention the fact that the other classes have no way of dealing with the ghosts as they're not aware of force walking or how it works.
The Jedi Knight is strong but has lost before, against the Emperor and was only able to beat the Emperor because of help he had through his old master and the fact that the Emperor was severely weakened at the time. And at the end of the day the Jedi Knight only slows the Emperor down, which is the most disappointing part of that story unfortunately. The Sith Warrior is definitely a beast in his own right but lacks the force knowledge to face the Inquisitor head-on.
The Consular is the only one that maybe stands a chance if we assume the sealing technique does anything to the Inquisitor. But I'm not sure if they can somehow purify the Inquisitor and take the ghosts out. It's a bit of a stretch.
@@Dark_Voice Nope, you gave fan fare logic. Me saying “haha” proves immaturity? Careful. Saying something like that means you can never write “haha” again without becoming a hypocrite.
You opened your comment up with my video being a troll. This alone opened you up to a whole can of criticism on my end, so far it’s been very tame.
Next time approach a debate as a debate rather than loading your initial statement so you can play moral high ground after the fact.
My reasons for the list are the in the video, clear as crystal. You’re free to refer back to them as to disprove any of your original notion. Thanks.
You’re more than welcome not to come back, if you so wish. You do you 🍻