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  • @clagen86
    @clagen86 Рік тому +40

    I wish there was an option to do premier drafts at the quick draft buy-in/payout rate. I much prefer drafting with actual players but the current structure is so punishing if you don't pick up at least 3 wins. The added stress of potentially losing a lot of gems really makes it hard to have fun with the draft and forces me a lot of the time to draft safe decks instead of experimenting with something more spicy.

  • @stepniak18
    @stepniak18 Рік тому +40

    The format was Throne of Eldrain and you could get busted mill deck every time before they fixed the bots to draft blue so the red aggro became busted :D Good old times :D

    • @LordJudgement1818
      @LordJudgement1818 Рік тому +3

      That merfolk mill 😂

    • @DaxRaider
      @DaxRaider Рік тому

      but i think he talekd about ravnica where the bot draft also was busted

  • @ardsleyparkproductions
    @ardsleyparkproductions Рік тому +9

    I’m definitely the one with a kid who tries to draft while she’s occupied and then she’s suddenly running across the house to do some mischief. Quickdraft is nice to have as an option😂

  • @moocowp4970
    @moocowp4970 Рік тому +8

    I THINK the way the bots' drafting logic works is they just take the cards that have the highest pick rate from real players, then once the bot is in a colour pair they stick to picking those colours, or something like that. Fairly sure that's the reason they don't open it till 2 weeks after premium draft starts, so they can gather data on pick preferences from real players for the bots to use.
    I don't find my quick drafts look TOO different from premium drafts. But I think in this format the bots don't go for 4-5 colour soup as much as other players would due to them prioritising cards in their colours.

    • @colinvandusen2072
      @colinvandusen2072 Рік тому

      I feel like if the bots are “stuck in a colour pair” they also don’t like splashing as much, so some of the multi colour cards wheel more often

  • @od6421
    @od6421 Рік тому +14

    Something definitely changed because after playing a bunch of quick drafts, I avoided domain decks because it seemed like the bots prioritized lands REALLY high

    • @StrawMan1235
      @StrawMan1235 Рік тому +7

      They don’t prioritize lands in pack 1. They start picking them higher pack 2 onwards.

    • @reidyo5404
      @reidyo5404 Рік тому +3

      Yah I think eventually a few bots get domain cards and then take all the lands. They rarely ever wheel

  • @_SweetJP
    @_SweetJP Рік тому +14

    48:10 With 20 minutes of video left and 2 losses, I was scratching my head trying to figure out how the opponent could possibly throw this game away. They figured it out though.

    • @luciano.armani
      @luciano.armani Рік тому +4

      that one and the defensive heroic charge were very dubious choices

    • @cmorinster
      @cmorinster Рік тому +1

      guessing they just got stage fright playing against the great kenji

  • @RazielNieto
    @RazielNieto Рік тому +11

    Wow that's me playing in the first game, i had so much luck there 🤣

  • @Cjbirol
    @Cjbirol Рік тому +2

    I think I'm not alone in enjoying the salty Kenji this draft. Glad we got to see the turn around though, was a real fun experience watching you go from 0-2 to 7-2. Honestly that's the best way to get 7 wins if you ask me, you had your back against the wall but didn't give up!

  • @NKMitch42
    @NKMitch42 Рік тому +2

    I have been liking smash to dust in balmor lists, it clears up chump blockers and the trample from balmor has made it way more relevant than i initially expected.

  • @AAGEnzee
    @AAGEnzee Рік тому

    36:45 ok.. that was hilarious. I added it up before he said anything, but thought they'd block for sure, but I was REALLY hoping they just wouldn't block, then my wish came true.

  • @jonathanp5125
    @jonathanp5125 Рік тому +2

    Salty Nummy is hilarious. So many quotable moments lol

  • @eduardofilippi7698
    @eduardofilippi7698 Рік тому +6

    I live inside Amazon Forest so yeah quick draft is usually the way to go.

  • @Grumbl3cakes
    @Grumbl3cakes Рік тому +3

    As somebody who likes to collect as much of a set as possible and loves limited, I keep playing quick just so I can do more drafts.

    • @Anthony-kd4rz
      @Anthony-kd4rz Рік тому

      100% same.
      I did probably 30-40 Quick drafts in the first DMU window. Cracked all my packs.. Now regretting it because I wont get to play future DMU quick drafts without the feeling of wasted gold.

    • @luciano.armani
      @luciano.armani Рік тому

      well, i do get more bang for my money on premier tho. 4 wins is money back and 5 is profit. you need 6 & 7 on quick for that (and i dont feel matches are much different tbh)

  • @beelor5777
    @beelor5777 Рік тому +3

    While I prefer premier draft, I do quick draft more often as it let's me walk away as needed and come back when I am able. 3 little ones means quick draft us more convenient.

    • @maxwellromza8390
      @maxwellromza8390 Рік тому +1

      Teach the little ones how to draft 👀

    • @beelor5777
      @beelor5777 Рік тому

      @@maxwellromza8390 thats what I did with the switch. I haven't played it since. Lol

  • @ludwigskoog885
    @ludwigskoog885 Рік тому

    "Feels like everything is lining up perfectly against us" - welcome to quick draft, friend! ;)

  • @AustinOrecchio
    @AustinOrecchio Рік тому +1

    felt your pain on these matches. losing to 4 color soup splashing for every good combat trick feels bad.

  • @chakstandsup
    @chakstandsup Рік тому +2

    I find every time I wait to kick Amplifier it's the wrong choice.

  • @jtmotley8848
    @jtmotley8848 Рік тому +2

    Balmor is stupidly good.

  • @majordude83
    @majordude83 Рік тому +1

    In my experience, it's basically impossible to get solid kill spells against the bots unless you get them pick 1 or 2 of a pack.

  • @AslanV380
    @AslanV380 Рік тому +3

    And here I am still struggling with Quick Draft...

    • @jebooiii6462
      @jebooiii6462 Рік тому +1

      Honestly I found premier draft much easier than quick draft. How much experience do you have with premier draft?

    • @AslanV380
      @AslanV380 Рік тому +1

      @@jebooiii6462 None, i though to learn with Quick first, I'll try a premier :)

    • @jebooiii6462
      @jebooiii6462 Рік тому

      @@AslanV380 Alright! If you have drafted in-person before, then premier draft is more suited, because you'll have more control over the draft. Bots just pick good cards; they don't really care which colors are open and which are not in my experience.

  • @clastogen
    @clastogen Рік тому +3

    game 2 could have forked the Impede Momentum, would have bought a lot of time locking down the outrider and Radha

    • @philschnaars
      @philschnaars Рік тому

      Actually was lethal, impede the rider Twinferno the amplifier he’s at 5 double strike tallas lookout hits for 3 and figment unblockable for the last 2

    • @Noordhof
      @Noordhof Рік тому

      @@philschnaars The opponent would still have the wall to block if you use twinferno to double strike instead of fork impede. You could hope they don't block like later games.

  • @nroz7284
    @nroz7284 Рік тому

    Nummy you had me cracking up at 49 min in. This is quality. I want to see some testing between bot draft and human. What you got?

  • @collegeisdabomb
    @collegeisdabomb Рік тому +4

    I'm super confused, I don't see quick draft for DMU at all, I only see quick draft for Midnight Hunt. I'm in the middle of a premier DMU draft so is that the reason? Anyway, thanks for the vid!

    • @PimpMyPeon
      @PimpMyPeon Рік тому +5

      He made this video long ago. Only uploaded today. Dmu quick draft ended last week

    • @collegeisdabomb
      @collegeisdabomb Рік тому +2

      Nevermind I obviously didn't wait till the end of the video to comment. Egg meet face hehe

  • @lodellm
    @lodellm Рік тому

    Prepping for Quick Draft this rotation!

  • @tragicslip
    @tragicslip Рік тому +4

    I like to see you quick draft. It just ends up feeling much more variance (I play qd exclusively cause ftp), the bots are better fwiw. Some formats geel off (midnight hunt), some play like your people drafts (kamagawa)

  • @AAGEnzee
    @AAGEnzee Рік тому +1

    be me, 30 mins in, Kenji is 0-2, See title 'is quick draft too easy?' and say out loud 'NOPE!' then realize video still has a good amount of time left..

  • @oreszteszmurgacs7689
    @oreszteszmurgacs7689 Рік тому

    Ah, the salt in the beginning... He is human!

  • @salomar77
    @salomar77 Рік тому

    I won’t complain again. Two seconds later: I lost the die roll AGAIN, what is going on!? Haha awesome!

    • @NumotTheNummyYT
      @NumotTheNummyYT  Рік тому

      slightly better than a goldfish memory I have, nice

  • @thiagoaprovado
    @thiagoaprovado Рік тому +1

    Bots take lands in pack 3. You will saw none there!

  • @samueljacksonlaird187
    @samueljacksonlaird187 Рік тому +1

    Anybody know how he's quick drafting DMU? Wondering if it's an old video cause quick draft is Midnight Hunt right now.

    • @maurtendo
      @maurtendo Рік тому

      Usually takes a few days to get the vid up on UA-cam.

    • @NumotTheNummyYT
      @NumotTheNummyYT  Рік тому +3

      i've been stockpiling drafts since I'll be out of town for a bit - gotta have my vids ready for the tubers!

  • @DiscipleofVenser1992
    @DiscipleofVenser1992 Рік тому +3

    I like seeing Quick Draft. It's cheaper to play, even though the payout isn't as worth the premier draft, but it's nice to get to see the cards and take your time. When Neon Dynasty was last around, I got 7 wins 3 times in a row. Quick rank booster (somehow) too.

  • @SoNEWMEX575
    @SoNEWMEX575 Рік тому +1

    I play a lot of quick draft and I think it’s more difficult than premiere imo

  • @aurblack8204
    @aurblack8204 10 місяців тому

    Why Kslugs did not attack with all creatures at 56:20?

  • @Taaebee
    @Taaebee Рік тому +3

    quick drafts double strike quick mafths

  • @DopeyDopes
    @DopeyDopes Рік тому

    4th game reminds me of the adeliz RKO days

  • @Drak8492
    @Drak8492 Рік тому +1

    You are right; you should have won game 1. They were dead on board if you twinferno'd and copied impede momentum. Op was at 15 and tapped out with only 2 blockers. 2 amplifiers and your 2 power flyer -- twinferno to copy impede momentum 3 instants/sorceries cast 3 amplifier triggers, each would be 7 power. 7+7+2 is 16. What a shame. Kiln fiend pauper player here lol.

    • @Drak8492
      @Drak8492 Рік тому +1

      Wow you actually lost game 2 for the same reason! 27:29 again, if you copy impede momentum with twinferno to get rid of the two blockers and swing out your amplifier would be 7 power plus the 5 from your other 2 creatures is 12. Op at 15 is dead to your three power flyer the following turn after you chump with the extra amplifier in your hand. Perhaps they still would have gained life but you have 3 creatures and if you draw cantrips you probably win.

    • @Drak8492
      @Drak8492 Рік тому +1

      Once again in game 3 lol. 36:34 if you copy impede momentum and then cast a timely interference and the shore up you would have dealt a total of 14 damage, putting your opponent dead to your flyer the following turn. You ended up winning because op chose not to block, but you could have taken their decision away from them and most likely won the next turn.

    • @m.b.87
      @m.b.87 Рік тому

      I'don't think the copy is a cast... not sure though

  • @RW77777777
    @RW77777777 Рік тому +2

    quick draft for that end of the month ranking boost
    when that final boss keeps getting u

  • @johnwaynesmom
    @johnwaynesmom Рік тому +2

    i like it kenji

  • @albo_ar
    @albo_ar Рік тому +1

    I have 3 kids and 2 works, so yeah, quick draft is my only way to draft

  • @emanuelwinder1918
    @emanuelwinder1918 Рік тому

    I'm pretty shure that it's the same player que for quick draft and premier draft.

  • @DopeyDopes
    @DopeyDopes Рік тому

    Believe in the CLEAVE!

  • @Arghore
    @Arghore Рік тому

    Redemption !

  • @zigzag2370
    @zigzag2370 Рік тому

    Quick draft in mom kinda sucks bc it makes five color really really hard to draft.... The boys weigh the dual lands abnormally high....

  • @hiertn
    @hiertn Рік тому

    Do people from Quick Draft get paired with people that drafted regularly or is it a separate queue?

  • @drewforsyth1993
    @drewforsyth1993 Рік тому

    So, I type exactly what Kenji did in the Search feature "t: crea" and my Arena won't separate the spells from one another. Do you have take the lands out of your deck in order for that to work?

    • @NumotTheNummyYT
      @NumotTheNummyYT  Рік тому

      you have to have the deck full-screen, not showing the sideboard

    • @dominikschneider7339
      @dominikschneider7339 Рік тому

      I think you have to hide your sideboard for it to work.

  • @pepeluissaezbaez4855
    @pepeluissaezbaez4855 Рік тому

    Wait when did you play this draft?

  • @branstonpickle1
    @branstonpickle1 Рік тому

    This looks like every other DOM quick draft I’ve done, so yeah, bots suck.

  • @musicman32186
    @musicman32186 Рік тому

    Man just from the first pack and half you could of had about 6 strike teams lol. Apparently the bots don't like that card at all.

  • @TolkiCasts
    @TolkiCasts Рік тому

    Holy moly, the people in this queue are really bad.

  • @jtaylor1219
    @jtaylor1219 Рік тому

    Two mythic guys making bonehead plays of the week

  • @gregwagner9743
    @gregwagner9743 Рік тому

    Are these bots drafting playable decks or just random cards?? I would love to see the BTS of this…

  • @felixschimmack6954
    @felixschimmack6954 Рік тому +1

    so many paid actors in this draft, unbelievable

    • @Drak8492
      @Drak8492 Рік тому

      The throwing of game 1 by not copying impede momentum with twinferno was quite unfortunate.

    • @felixschimmack6954
      @felixschimmack6954 Рік тому

      @@Drak8492 yeah, but what I meant was, all the mis-plays the opponents made :)

    • @stevealbert4050
      @stevealbert4050 Рік тому

      What are you talking about

  • @Kostly
    @Kostly Рік тому

    You are playing with people....just not drafting with people.

  • @Xerdoz
    @Xerdoz Рік тому

    Drafting is just a scam. I tried it once, didn't win a single match.