5 Minutes with GM Ben Finegold: Fischer vs Finegold, Midwest Masters, 1986
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- Опубліковано 29 кві 2024
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Bobby Fischer vs Ben Finegold, Midwest Masters, 1986
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Great to see Bobby still kicking. Saw him recently at my local weekend tournament. He lost to a kid who knew all the latest Najdorf theory. He stormed out yelling “I hate chess”. Still got it
Not many people can say they beat Bobby Fischer in a Najdorf. Props to that kid!
As Ben says when he has to go to the dentist, "The tooth hurts"
Great stuff Ben! I was 18 in 1986 rated around 2000 and like your Bobby Fischer II opponent remained between 2000 and 2200 for almost 40 years now. I just wanted to leave a comment about some of the differences from when we played back then and today. Nowadays there are so many awesome chess content suppliers Like yourself and other GMs Super GMs and World Champions literally a mouse click away, everyone has Stockfish on their iPad and a slow game of chess is a 30 minute time control. That’s all great and I’m happy that new generations have such resources available to learn chess. That being said there was something kind of magical in taking up chess back before computers played a real role and a typical time control was 40 moves in 90 minutes or 40 moves in 2 hours (40 / 2) with a 60 minute sudden death secondary control often making a game 5 hours long but in practice it felt more like 5 minutes! And yes we played blitz back then too. With tournaments that would often take place in a hotel over a 3 day Holiday weekend there was always a (skittles room) available were we would go to analyse the game we just finished with our opponent and play a few dozen 2 minute games with other early finishers in-between rounds. On the other hand if a round was just starting and you were hungry and your opponent was an 1.e4 player (known as P-K4 back then. A much more beautiful way of expressing chess moves I might add:) you could just play the Schliemann (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 f5) hit your clock after move three and go have lunch! With no internet and dedicated chess computers which were rated about 1500 (at best) and would think for 10 minutes or more sometimes per move (something I miss as it felt allot more human) and once you beat it a single game because it didn’t learn, so you could just keep playing the same line over and over again rendering your new device useless. Which means you were saving for the new model next year. We waited earnestly each month for our new copy of Chesslife (a magazine which you automatically receive with your USCF annual Dues) to come in the mail as printed at the bottom of mailing label was your new official USCF Rating! All Tournaments had sections with rating ceilings (such as Novice, Booster, Reserve, Premiere, and Open sections) allowing any avid player to potentially win a prize. Everything we learned was from books by A select group of chess Authors such as Fred Reinfeldt or Classical World Champions of the 19th and early 20th Century. Lastly I believe the average player back then had a much more in-depth and richer understanding of chess heritage. We all studied things such as classical chess problems (chess compositions) and even retrograde problems. Well I’ve gone on more than long enough. Sorry for the ridiculously long comment :). God Bless.
Sounds like a magical and romantic period. I got into chess in late 2021 at 34 years old, but the more I study chess, the less I use engines to analyze and I've been enjoying longer games more (still on 30+0)
I think this is from that Fischer simul where he was blindfolded, in ankle chains, and being tased every 20 seconds.
Ben schooled that stunt double!
You are the best in my view. My view sadly doesn't count .
144 views so far so yours definitely counts ;)
Thus leveling the score between Fischer and Finegold!
0:11 "except for one thing"
Am I the only one that thinks the intro to these videos are hilarious?
Came for the Fischer bait, stayed for the Finegold excellence
You are correct, this game was played before I was born, but only by 2. months. Thanks Ben!
50$ back then it's 5000$ today
Best 5min of my day.
(Sorry, honey… 🤷🏻♂️)
All you who weren't born yet...😂 we are actually the silent over-50s chatting happily in PMs whilst watching your stream.
fischer vs finegold match of the century
Quality study material and commentary ! Thank you Ben
Technically true, not some sketchy clickbait title. Frankly, genius.
I immediately thought of the rook sack . But i was concerned with rook to a4 then rook takes pawn. Didnt realize how strong blacks king was until AFTER king c5 was played. My uscf rating is 1940. I m thinking that over the board i may have been too hesitant to commit to the exchange sac. Is there a known remedy .
I was alive in 86 and even remember that year.
That double rook endgame against Esserman was awesome…
Go Ben, go clickbait!
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Always hilarious, Mr. Finegold. It's clickbait, but it really isn't, not if it's technically true.
Excuse me, you advertised that this would be five minutes with Ben, but actually we are spending seven minutes with Ben here. I sure hope someone was fired for that blunder.
You just got 40% more Ben on the house and you're complaining??
@Taycatte is an individual who appreciates and cares for coherence 🥸 I back you, Sir/Madam!
And you're not
I have a remark about the engine preferring ...Kxb5. The engine always prefers winning material, even if it's not the most efficient way to win the game. The b5 pawn is more or less useless since it's blocked, but the engine doesn't understand that.