I still enjoy my 938 and I carry is frequently, but I've moved on to the Sig P365 as my main daily carry. It has more capacity and it's still Sig quality.
As an owner of a 938 Legion I could offer comments where our views intersect and where they don't. However I wish to commend you for your manner of presentation. Your cadence, articulation, and tone make your words easy to listen to and enjoyable. It is so refreshing in this day of mass, albeit sloppy, communication, to hear such a professional offering. Kudos.
Thanks for the kind words. It sounds like you could have made a comment of disagreement with the video, but chose to make a positive comment. That's a good example for us all to live by.
My P938 is by far the best “micro” 9mm pistol I’ve ever shot or owned. I’ve got the “green hornet” one with the black slide, dark green frame and soft sticky hogue grips. With the 7 round extended mag I can get my pinky on it, it’s a great shooter. I am not really down with all these double stack micro 9s, it seems counterintuitive to me, I’ll stick with the single stack and carry my 6 shot 327mag LCR as a backup. 👍🏻
You know....I could stick with this P938 as my only handgun for the rest of my life. Of course, I could say that about several other guns also....and therein lies the problem! It's a good problem to have.
My fist 2 trips to the range with my 938 resulted in multiple failures. The worst of which involved the slide lock/takedown lever drifting out and locking the slide and actually falling out on one occasion. Individual results will vary. My pistol will NOT reliably feed with the 1 round Sig exrended mag. After carefully polishing the edges of the lever, I've had 1000 rounds without failure from various types of 9mm ammo using the short mag. In spite of being thoroughly disgusted with Sig over the issue, this is now the only pistol I will carry. I will never part with it.
It would be hard for me to trust a gun that has had issues. Fortunately, mine hasn't had any feed issues. It is one of 2 pocket 9's that I regularly carry.
Nice presentation on this review . I have the P938 SAS Model , I just love this little pistol . It fits my hand like a glove ( I have small hands) and this was the one that checked all the boxes , the instant I picked it up I knew it was the one for me . I love the stainless dehorned slide , two tone and Cocobolo wood grips handsomely compliment the gun . The sights jump right to the eye quickly and naturally , although I did replace the front sight with a TruGlo fiber optic/ tritium one , real easy to do if you have a sight press tool to remove and install the dovetail. The holster that came with it , well , I use it when I’m at the range , other than that , it’s just a cheap kydex OWB holster that is ok , but I prefer an IWB for carry. Flawless function , consistent excellent performance and accuracy from a 3” barrel micro 9 pistol. I have to agree with you on the takedown pin , it’s a little tricky to manipulate the slide with your one hand and pop the pin out with your other hand , but once you do it a couple times, it’s easy enough to handle. Be extra careful to position the spring properly ( that seats beneath the takedown pin ) when reassembling the pistol , it can cause the slide to remain open as if it was the last round fired . If you ever encounter that issue , it’s because the spring under the takedown pin was not installed properly 😉 But this is a very functional and well built pistol , and I still can’t understand why they quit making them . Glad I grabbed mine when I did ! Oh one other thing my SAS came with only two of the 7 round magazines , and I didn’t get the short flush fitting 6 round one .
Thanks for your input. I've been carrying mine lately and I still enjoy it. By the way, I've mastered the takedown pin....it really isn't that hard. Don't know why I was having trouble early on. Take care.
I have the Sig P238. The slide stop fell out of the gun while I was reloading. It did this twice so I sent it in for warranty work. They quickly fixed it, and no further problems. Apparently, the problem was a small wire spring that was defective. Compared with my Kahr 9mm, which I traded in for the Sig, the Sig is a work of art and shoots nice. I like the single action action better than the striker in the Kahr. Also, I don't care for polymer pistols.
I rotate my P938 and PM9 regularly as my pocket carry. Of course, they have very different manual of arms, but they both fill the same niche for me. I like them both!
You have great taste! I own the P938, P238, a Ruger SR1911, and a Ruger Lightweight Cmdr 1911 (and many more) carry all of them, and there's no problem with a cocked and locked 1911 type pistol if your finger stays off the trigger. People carry M&P and Clocks without safety levers, and think little of it. The Sigs have a firing pin block, so you really do have to pull the trigger.
Yes, intellectually, I knew they were safe, but carrying it in my pocket was a different matter. Enough of an issue that I waited years to make the purchase. It's perfectly safe though.
ima4ster It was the same for me, and on rare occasions I'll leave the hammer down. I think carrying 1911's made me feel more confident with the P938, but even with the 1911's, I find myself checking the safety after standing up and sitting down. Being concerned means we're being safety conscious I suppose, and that's a good thing. :-)
Been carrying Sig938 for about 3 years now. Like you say, there's no perfect one but this one's close. I've carried it in the gym in T-shirt and gym shorts! I just picked up a used Kahr PM9 today for $300. with 3 mags, the box and everything but an Owner's Manual. Thinkin of carryin it as backup to 938 because there could be times I might want to "loan" one to someone else - my spouse, grandson, friend, etc should we be at the mall or theater and some nutcase starts screaming "Allahu Akbar" or "My mommy was mean to me when I was little" or something. Little apprehensive that it's used but it seemed like a price at which I couldn't lose more'n $50.00. May have to buy a couple of new mags as the mags look like it belonged to someone that actually trained. We'll see. It was only $300. I found brand new Kahr mags for $35 - not too bad. Also went ahead and picked up a Walther PPS M2 LE new so I can get in on their $100.00 rebate til Sep 15th! Oh baby!!!! Can't wait to get to range now BUT just had elbow and wrist surgery a week ago - gotta heal first! Oh the situations I put myself in. I'm so ashamed.
We have those 3 handguns that are similar. My PPS is the original model and it's in .40 S&W caliber. I just can't get to the range enough to shoot the handguns that I have. At some point, I'm afraid that I can't justify any more purchases....but that hasn't happened yet, thank goodness. I just bought my first Glock...model 26. It's getting my attention more than the others these days.
Here's how you justify future purchases. Buy high quality firearms that are clearly designed to last and be shown off in presentation cases. I would love to get the Colt 380 Government model (or whatever it's official name is) because it is a scaled down 1911 that looks too sweet to shoot. Colt Pythons with the blue finish fall into that category too. They also fall into the multi thousand dollar price range. So they are investments!
I agree, I have to stop buying any more guns also. I already have more than I can use on a regular basis. I'm taking my Springfield XDs Mod 2 in .45 cal. back to my gun guy to trade in for a Sig P365 sometime this week. Hopefully he'll trade out even. Otherwise I'll pay the difference. While there I'll bust some caps.
I pocket carry with a Desantis pocket holster. Works really well for me. It clears the pocket and leaves the holster every time. Target shoots really well also. Thanks for the video
You know, I think another comment gave me a tip about how to remove the pin more easiily......but I can't remember the tip! I'll have to go back and reread the comments. :) Old age.
Very well done, thanks for your extensive thought on this beautiful little carry piece I am seriously considering this pistol and you just tipped the scale in the 938s favor. Thanks again.
I'd have to agree - the P938 is perfect for a 9mm single stack, both in design and execution. Between this and my P229 in .40 S&W, I have little desire to go back to plastic striker-fired pistols any more.
I lucked out and got the P938 SAS model with no wait. Out the door for $675. Replaced my other EDC a Kimber Ultra Carry 2. I carry mine in a Wright Leather Works OWB leather holster @ 3 oclock. No problem concealing with a camp style button up shirt. Infact you forget it's even there. Take down is a pain in the ass just like all 1911 SA style pistols, but because all my pistols are SA I've gotten used to it.
@@ima4ster a custom leather holster made for your pistol. Shipped to your house from their shop in Ohio for less than $100 total. I've bought 2 of them so far. Next one I'll get will be for my Sig Sauer RCS Commander 1911.
They are a true custom shop. It will take them 6 to 8 weeks and at the least you'll pay is $98 which includes shipping. So far I've gotten two of them. Both seriously fine well made leather holsters. 1 is designed for 3 to 4 o clock for the P938 SAS, the other is designed for 11 o clock for the Kimber.
Bring a 1911 shooter for decades, the takedown process is second nature so it’s not really a negative for me. It would be a pain for those with big hands. I was waiting for a Springfield 911 9mm to come in but This one followed me home for over 100 bucks less than the 911. I’ve run 4-5 boxes through it this week and it is a superb pistol! Dead accurate and great sights. Probably the best small frame 9 I’ve ever had!
By now you’ve probably mastered the takedown,but I’m gonna throw this in anyway. Grab the top of the slide with two ir three of your rh fingers over the top from the right side with your right thumb on the back of the grip. Squeeze slide back with your right hand in this configuration. This allows your left hand fingers to push the takedown lever out from the right side enough to get ahold of it on the left side. Once the notch is lined up,of course. Easiest way I’ve found.
Yes, that is how I've figured out how to take out the pin, but I still have trouble with it. I figured out what I was doing wrong this morning. I was lining up the notch and trying to push out the lever from the right side. The key is to fine-tune the lining up of the notch and the lever will literally fall out. Thanks for prompting me to give it another try.
Great little gun, I had the blackout version and carried it almost every day for more than 2 years. I started to want a higher capacity gun, so I sold it to buy a Glock 19. i thought it would be just as easy to carry as my smaller p938, Nope!! I have a much harder time taking the G19 out the door with me, and i won't carry it most days. (once or twice a week. I really regret selling the p938, my Glock 19 is still a great gun and is strictly a bedside gun for my wife when I am not at home. my new p938 will be the SAS model. i can't wait!!!
I own this particular p938 as well as the AG p938. I agree very nice gun but the takedown and reassembly is a little difficult at times. Very nice video. I need more practice catching the round in mid flight when extracting.
I agree 100% with your review - both the positive and negative. Absolutely love the point and shoot accuracy. Absolutely do not like the takedown. As you, I’ve seen videos of easy takedowns, but so far it hinders me from using the P938 as much as I’d like at the range. I’ve tried the slide pull back with my right hand in the manner most recommend but still isn’t “easy” for me. Perhaps my only real complaint. Love the 92FS take down and Glock 26 isn’t too bad, but the 938 is lacking IMHO.
Agreed. Great gun. I bought one then sold it, I soon regretted selling it and then bought the SAS model about a year later. Not making the same mistake twice.
nice video. I like the fact that you hit the high points both good and bad and didn't ramble on and on like some videos. I own the p938 and really like it. I did shave off the right side ambi safety making it completely flush because I found that twice I had rubbed up against something and disengaged the safety. That did scare me so now it is flush with the right side of the p938. I found that you can buy the safety lever for the p238 from Sig and this will solve the same issue. Over all I am with you and it is my favorite edc gun. Guns and knives are like spouses, you pick the best one you can find and then you work with the differences.
Glad you appreciate my approach to reviews. I don't particularly appreciate the rambling on and on of many reviewers. I get the impression they love the sound of their voices much more than I do. Good point on the safety. It hasn't been a problem for me, but something to think about. Take care!
Thanks. I had to look "narration" up in the dictionary and I'm still not sure what it means. Telling a story...like a bedtime story. :) Maybe people listen to me to go to sleep. I know that's why listen to some others.
I had a Colt mustang .380 many years ago and it was a total turd, it wouldn't feed or eject and you rarely got two shots off without a malfunction. seeing this gun reminds me of that gun because it's the exact same design
Nice video. Based on my satisfaction with the P238, I ordered a P938. It's the SAS version :-). I hope it comes with more than one magazine because it is more spendy than the P238 was. Desantis makes a superfly holster that seems to me to be much better than the Nemesis which is poor at hiding the outline of a gun. Obviously your pocket will still look like it's filled with something. I'm not sure it's physically possible to avoid that.
From my research, I've found that some of the P938s have had loose barrels or bad extractors. If I get one of those and Sig can't fix it to my satisfaction, I'll consider a trade :-)
I picked up the P938 today and ran 100 rounds through it. I had a few failures to go into battery and one feed jam that required me to drop the magazine to clear it. I also ran another 100 through the P238 with zero issues. When I got the gun home I field stripped it. It looks like it was shipped dry. I'll clean it and lube it before running more ammo through it. I found reassembly much more difficult than the P238. The barrel can rotate and snag the extractor. I mean really snag. It's tough to separate the two and I don't want to break the extractor or damage it in any way. The recoil spring is much heavier, as it needs to be. That took a LOT of fiddling and it kept rotating the barrel so that it would snag on the extractor. I've got it together now. Sig shipped the SAS with just the one seven round extended magazine. Except for the malfunctions, I did enjoy shooting it. The grip is distinctly beefier than the P238 grip. I didn't feel at all like the gun wanted to jump out of my hand. I was shooting the Remington green and white box 124gr FMJ. I found it much more pleasant to shoot and more accurate than my Ruger LC9s Pro.
I don't like to carry an extra key in my pocket....I can't imagine carrying anything bigger than a NAA mini revolver in that style of carry. To each his own, I think kydex OWB paddle is the most comfortable and most importantly quick on the draw.
I definitely agree that OWB is the most comfortable carry option. I just don't always have a cover garment during the day, so I have to resort to pocket carry.
That is a great deal. I thought most come with 1 magazine. As far as takedown, I find it easier to turn the gun upside down in my left hand with my thumb under the beavertail and move the slide back with my fingers and I can just pull the pin out with my finger
I've had issues with Kahr, and will never own another. I like Sig a lot. One note regarding the 938 (which I like a lot), the Ammo Quest guy did have the guide rod launch out of his because it's 2 pieces and it came apart. You'll want to make sure yours is not loose after use.
Nice video.... you know if Sig were to modify this gun to be able to hold more than than 11 rounds like the 365 I believe that this gun would sell like hotcakes...... its great the way it is but I would certainly buy it with 10- or more rounds
Thanks....I meant to make this video several months ago, but just kept putting it off. I have 3-4 videos that fall in the "I'll get to it soon" category. Thanks for watching.
Nice shooter for sure, but they are a pain in the ass to take apart and put back together. Between the need for holding the slide exactly right while taking the slide release out and then reinserting the crazy long spring with the crazy short guide rod, it definitely takes some practice To disassemble and reassemble. I had my Smith & Wesson M&P Shield 9 mm completely apart and back together again before my friend could even disassemble his P938. I like shooting it well enough, and it would be real nice to carry, since it is so small, but I won’t own one, despite all the other positives.
I feel your pain. I'd say move but that would be too simple. No way I would ever consider living like you're forced to live. Move anywhere in the Southeast, you won't regret it in the long run. Just make sure you leave your politics in California.
:) What did I say about the police? I'm guessing that I just don't like printing because of the police attention it might bring. I had so many traffic stops and walking stops that I felt like I was being targeted at one time.
Walking stops? Do you live in NYC? Those are illegal but they do them anyway. Also a recent discovery shows that the NYPD is quite willing to break the law in other ways such as lying under oath in court and beating people up. I would love to believe that is just paranoia on my part except that it came from a mainstream news source.
My Seecamp 32 and Ruger LCP are light enough that the weight doesn't bother me. Once I get up to my SigP938 and Kahr PM9, their size and weight doesn't let me forget that they are in my pocket. I still carry them regularly, but I can't deny that the weight bothers me a little. It's a personal thing, I guess.
Don't be shocked but I have never owned a Sig. I usually pocket carry an LCR and a BG-380 at times. At $600 you get what you pay for and I'm sure it's a quality firearm.
revolver8shot I'm not sure about the grips. I even went to the manufacturer's Web site but didnt find any more info. I think they are made of a composite material and given a wood grain, but I could be wrong.
Thanks for responding. I recently bought Defender in .45 which I bought in honor of my dad's passing. I don't plan on firing it. I want to become more familiar with Single Action only. I figure a 9mm SA is a great start. Great video though.
The p938 has a two piece quite rod. It needs to be checked when you clean the gun to make sure it is not coming “unscrewed”. If it comes apart the front section will fly out the front of the gun. Not sure how often this issue has actually happened - never had any issues with mine.
I've heard, but it hasn't happened to me in 2+ years/3000 rounds. There is a company making a one-piece replacement; I think they're called something creative, like "Stainless Steel Guide Rods"?
There is no rhyme or reason with what comes in the box when you buy a Sig. I’m convinced they just send you what they want you to have. The Sig website does not specify what comes with various models. Some will come with the plastic holster while others will not. Some with only one mag. My p938 Equinox came with one six round mag and the holster.
I just bought mine this week. It came NIB with 1 extended 7 round mag. The salesman gave me an extra 6 round flush mag for free when I asked about it. I plan on buying another 7 round mag this weekend at Bass Pro shop while I'm there. $42 dollars. One thing about Sig, they think their mags are made from gold. No POS kydex holster that I wouldn't have used anyway.
Which Defense Ammo does this gun like to feed? Or perhaps what's your preferred Ammo and grain for this particular gun? Because I'm about to buy one. It's funny, I currently carry a PM40 and about to switch, mainly because of the long trigger from PM40 to short trigger of 938. Any other advice before buying?
I run Speer Gold Dot 124 gr. hollow points in my Sig P938. I've never had any problem with Gold Dot in any of my handguns. I'm getting ready to do a comparison video of the Sig P938 and the Kahr PM9. I'll upload it by this coming Saturday depending on how busy I am at work this week.
Just ordered my Sig today with a nice promotion from Sig with two extra mags and a bag. A note to those new to guns and why I'd buy a similar size gun over my Kahr PM40 and spend another $600 to overcome one simple difference and that is a better"Trigger". Grip purchase and trigger pull makes a HUGE difference in shooting accurately. 90% of these L O N G Double Action trigger, where the finger has to travel all the way down to the end, causes the front to shift to left side (if you're right handed) and this happens to me with my Kahr. I can shoot perfectly with my 1911 Kimber or my SR9c which all have short travel. Perfect size grip and crisp/short trigger promotes better shooting. Just my two cents... ..Ben
I think it was your video that pushed me over the edge :-) especially we both wanted something the same size as PM but a better gun. So, our requirements were very similar and I valued your review. Thank you!
Do they make it in a .22? Thinking about one for the wife. She's not the best with pocket pistols. For example I have a Ruger 380 and she hates it. It's the recoil, etc. just a general confidence thing I guess. But hard for her to conceal anything else.
I'm not an authority on this, but I doubt it comes in .22. A similar model comes in .380 and with the heft of this handgun, recoil might not bother your wife.
Nice review, but I was concerned that the gun was loaded and on several occasions pointed at your hand or worse. I recognize the safety was on but as a matter of practice think it best to never point a loaded gun at something you wouldn't want destroyed.
J Curtice I reached it and see what you mean. I believe the gun was unloaded throughout the video except for the Section where I demonstrated the safety, but a viewer could have had the impression that it was loaded the whole time.
have you ran hollow point ammo in this gun ? Im giving a lot of thought to purchasing one but iv seen a number of complaints that it will jam with hollow points . I dislike my Kahr for the exact reason .
Yes, I've run Speer Gold Dots through the P938 with no problem. I had heard of feeding problems with the Kahr PM9, but not the Sig. I haven't had problems with either of them.
Only a fool carries a gun in their pocket.. the title pocket gun don't imply it is to be carried in a pocket, pocket is just a general term to imply something is on the tiny end of small. I mean, people don't actually carry pocket dogs in their pocket, it is just what they're dubbed being their size is smaller than that of an average small dog. Should always carry in a good holster that completely guards the trigger.
I've never heard of the term "pocket dog." You made that up, right? :) I think your opinion would change if you were in shorts & t-shirt in the summer and got mugged.
@@ima4ster no I did not make the term pocket dog up, it's a real thing. As for carrying I don't care what time of year it is or how I'm dressed I never leave home without my ccw riding @ 430/5 iwb
I’ve carried my 938 extreme for 4 years now and still love it, it’s damn near perfect as one can buy.
I still enjoy my 938 and I carry is frequently, but I've moved on to the Sig P365 as my main daily carry. It has more capacity and it's still Sig quality.
This was a pleasant video to watch, pro level voice. Excellent video. I enjoy my P-938 Scorpion. It carries so well I forget I have it on.
Thanks for the kind words. Makes me want to go back and watch my video again! :)
While we are talking about printing most people are on their phones so much you can appendix carry an AK and most wouldn't know
:) You are exactly right. Once, I forgot to take my shiny revolver off my hip while pumping gas at a busy gas station and nobody noticed.
The only people that can see others carrying concealed are other concealed carriers.
As an owner of a 938 Legion I could offer comments where our views intersect and where they don't. However I wish to commend you for your manner of presentation. Your cadence, articulation, and tone make your words easy to listen to and enjoyable. It is so refreshing in this day of mass, albeit sloppy, communication, to hear such a professional offering. Kudos.
Thanks for the kind words. It sounds like you could have made a comment of disagreement with the video, but chose to make a positive comment. That's a good example for us all to live by.
I bought the Legion version one month ago. Can you provide me links for the Holsters for that please 🙏.
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My P938 is by far the best “micro” 9mm pistol I’ve ever shot or owned. I’ve got the “green hornet” one with the black slide, dark green frame and soft sticky hogue grips. With the 7 round extended mag I can get my pinky on it, it’s a great shooter. I am not really down with all these double stack micro 9s, it seems counterintuitive to me, I’ll stick with the single stack and carry my 6 shot 327mag LCR as a backup. 👍🏻
You know....I could stick with this P938 as my only handgun for the rest of my life. Of course, I could say that about several other guns also....and therein lies the problem! It's a good problem to have.
My fist 2 trips to the range with my 938 resulted in multiple failures. The worst of which involved the slide lock/takedown lever drifting out and locking the slide and actually falling out on one occasion. Individual results will vary. My pistol will NOT reliably feed with the 1 round Sig exrended mag. After carefully polishing the edges of the lever, I've had 1000 rounds without failure from various types of 9mm ammo using the short mag. In spite of being thoroughly disgusted with Sig over the issue, this is now the only pistol I will carry. I will never part with it.
It would be hard for me to trust a gun that has had issues. Fortunately, mine hasn't had any feed issues. It is one of 2 pocket 9's that I regularly carry.
Glad you were able to work out the snag. They're great guns.
Nice presentation on this review .
I have the P938 SAS Model , I just love this little pistol . It fits my hand like a glove ( I have small hands) and this was the one that checked all the boxes , the instant I picked it up I knew it was the one for me .
I love the stainless dehorned slide , two tone and Cocobolo wood grips handsomely compliment the gun .
The sights jump right to the eye quickly and naturally , although I did replace the front sight with a TruGlo fiber optic/ tritium one , real easy to do if you have a sight press tool to remove and install the dovetail.
The holster that came with it , well , I use it when I’m at the range , other than that , it’s just a cheap kydex OWB holster that is ok , but I prefer an IWB for carry.
Flawless function , consistent excellent performance and accuracy from a 3” barrel micro 9 pistol.
I have to agree with you on the takedown pin , it’s a little tricky to manipulate the slide with your one hand and pop the pin out with your other hand , but once you do it a couple times, it’s easy enough to handle.
Be extra careful to position the spring properly ( that seats beneath the takedown pin ) when reassembling the pistol , it can cause the slide to remain open as if it was the last round fired . If you ever encounter that issue , it’s because the spring under the takedown pin was not installed properly 😉
But this is a very functional and well built pistol , and I still can’t understand why they quit making them .
Glad I grabbed mine when I did !
Oh one other thing my SAS came with only two of the 7 round magazines , and I didn’t get the short flush fitting 6 round one .
Thanks for your input. I've been carrying mine lately and I still enjoy it. By the way, I've mastered the takedown pin....it really isn't that hard. Don't know why I was having trouble early on. Take care.
I have the Sig P238. The slide stop fell out of the gun while I was reloading. It did this twice so I sent it in for warranty work. They quickly fixed it, and no further problems. Apparently, the problem was a small wire spring that was defective. Compared with my Kahr 9mm, which I traded in for the Sig, the Sig is a work of art and shoots nice. I like the single action action better than the striker in the Kahr. Also, I don't care for polymer pistols.
I rotate my P938 and PM9 regularly as my pocket carry. Of course, they have very different manual of arms, but they both fill the same niche for me. I like them both!
Please tell me you're on the radio. Perfect voice for it.
Just UA-cam.:)
You have great taste! I own the P938, P238, a Ruger SR1911, and a Ruger Lightweight Cmdr 1911 (and many more) carry all of them, and there's no problem with a cocked and locked 1911 type pistol if your finger stays off the trigger. People carry M&P and Clocks without safety levers, and think little of it. The Sigs have a firing pin block, so you really do have to pull the trigger.
Yes, intellectually, I knew they were safe, but carrying it in my pocket was a different matter. Enough of an issue that I waited years to make the purchase. It's perfectly safe though.
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It was the same for me, and on rare occasions I'll leave the hammer down. I think carrying 1911's made me feel more confident with the P938, but even with the 1911's, I find myself checking the safety after standing up and sitting down. Being concerned means we're being safety conscious I suppose, and that's a good thing. :-)
Been carrying Sig938 for about 3 years now. Like you say, there's no perfect one but this one's close. I've carried it in the gym in T-shirt and gym shorts! I just picked up a used Kahr PM9 today for $300. with 3 mags, the box and everything but an Owner's Manual. Thinkin of carryin it as backup to 938 because there could be times I might want to "loan" one to someone else - my spouse, grandson, friend, etc should we be at the mall or theater and some nutcase starts screaming "Allahu Akbar" or "My mommy was mean to me when I was little" or something. Little apprehensive that it's used but it seemed like a price at which I couldn't lose more'n $50.00. May have to buy a couple of new mags as the mags look like it belonged to someone that actually trained. We'll see. It was only $300. I found brand new Kahr mags for $35 - not too bad. Also went ahead and picked up a Walther PPS M2 LE new so I can get in on their $100.00 rebate til Sep 15th! Oh baby!!!! Can't wait to get to range now BUT just had elbow and wrist surgery a week ago - gotta heal first! Oh the situations I put myself in. I'm so ashamed.
We have those 3 handguns that are similar. My PPS is the original model and it's in .40 S&W caliber. I just can't get to the range enough to shoot the handguns that I have. At some point, I'm afraid that I can't justify any more purchases....but that hasn't happened yet, thank goodness. I just bought my first Glock...model 26. It's getting my attention more than the others these days.
Here's how you justify future purchases. Buy high quality firearms that are clearly designed to last and be shown off in presentation cases. I would love to get the Colt 380 Government model (or whatever it's official name is) because it is a scaled down 1911 that looks too sweet to shoot. Colt Pythons with the blue finish fall into that category too. They also fall into the multi thousand dollar price range. So they are investments!
I agree, I have to stop buying any more guns also. I already have more than I can use on a regular basis. I'm taking my Springfield XDs Mod 2 in .45 cal. back to my gun guy to trade in for a Sig P365 sometime this week. Hopefully he'll trade out even. Otherwise I'll pay the difference. While there I'll bust some caps.
You have a nice voice. I enjoyed listening to this video.
Thank you so much!
thats a neat feature, being able to wrack the slide while the safety is on, and cocked and locked. sweet gun man
It's a really neat safety feature.
I pocket carry with a Desantis pocket holster. Works really well for me. It clears the pocket and leaves the holster every time. Target shoots really well also. Thanks for the video
It's a neat little gun. It splits duty w/ my Kahr PM9. I like both of them!
I had the 238. Absolutely fantastic gun, but just like you I had a hell of a time trying to remove the slide pin for take-down.
You know, I think another comment gave me a tip about how to remove the pin more easiily......but I can't remember the tip! I'll have to go back and reread the comments. :) Old age.
Very well done, thanks for your extensive thought on this beautiful little carry piece I am seriously considering this pistol and you just tipped the scale in the 938s favor. Thanks again.
You don't hear a lot about the P938 any more, but if you are comfortable with the 1911-style action, it is a high quality pocket pistol.
ima4ster So true sir, especially when the P365 hit. Talk about micro, my brother can’t say enough about that pistol. You might like it.
I'd have to agree - the P938 is perfect for a 9mm single stack, both in design and execution. Between this and my P229 in .40 S&W, I have little desire to go back to plastic striker-fired pistols any more.
I carried my P938 today. It's a classy yet capable handgun.
I lucked out and got the P938 SAS model with no wait. Out the door for $675. Replaced my other EDC a Kimber Ultra Carry 2. I carry mine in a Wright Leather Works OWB leather holster @ 3 oclock. No problem concealing with a camp style button up shirt. Infact you forget it's even there. Take down is a pain in the ass just like all 1911 SA style pistols, but because all my pistols are SA I've gotten used to it.
You found the one I wanted. I'll check out that holster.
@@ima4ster a custom leather holster made for your pistol. Shipped to your house from their shop in Ohio for less than $100 total. I've bought 2 of them so far. Next one I'll get will be for my Sig Sauer RCS Commander 1911.
They are a true custom shop. It will take them 6 to 8 weeks and at the least you'll pay is $98 which includes shipping. So far I've gotten two of them. Both seriously fine well made leather holsters. 1 is designed for 3 to 4 o clock for the P938 SAS, the other is designed for 11 o clock for the Kimber.
Bring a 1911 shooter for decades, the takedown process is second nature so it’s not really a negative for me. It would be a pain for those with big hands. I was waiting for a Springfield 911 9mm to come in but This one followed me home for over 100 bucks less than the 911. I’ve run 4-5 boxes through it this week and it is a superb pistol! Dead accurate and great sights. Probably the best small frame 9 I’ve ever had!
l'm carrying this little guy this week. It's really a high quality handgun.
By now you’ve probably mastered the takedown,but I’m gonna throw this in anyway. Grab the top of the slide with two ir three of your rh fingers over the top from the right side with your right thumb on the back of the grip. Squeeze slide back with your right hand in this configuration. This allows your left hand fingers to push the takedown lever out from the right side enough to get ahold of it on the left side. Once the notch is lined up,of course. Easiest way I’ve found.
Yes, that is how I've figured out how to take out the pin, but I still have trouble with it. I figured out what I was doing wrong this morning. I was lining up the notch and trying to push out the lever from the right side. The key is to fine-tune the lining up of the notch and the lever will literally fall out. Thanks for prompting me to give it another try.
I carry mine IWB. It is very comfortable there and does not print, even with Levis and a T
note: I carry it in a Crossbreed mini tuck. Some people don't like them, but it works for me
Great little gun, I had the blackout version and carried it almost every day for more than 2 years. I started to want a higher capacity gun, so I sold it to buy a Glock 19. i thought it would be just as easy to carry as my smaller p938, Nope!!
I have a much harder time taking the G19 out the door with me, and i won't carry it most days. (once or twice a week. I really regret selling the p938, my Glock 19 is still a great gun and is strictly a bedside gun for my wife when I am not at home. my new p938 will be the SAS model. i can't wait!!!
The SAS model was the one I wanted too. The Blackwood version was the one on sale at my local store. :)
I bought the SAS model. Best P938 model Sig makes. Good choise. About $100 more but worth it especially the natural SS slide model.
I own this particular p938 as well as the AG p938. I agree very nice gun but the takedown and reassembly is a little difficult at times. Very nice video. I need more practice catching the round in mid flight when extracting.
I need to practice my shooting more. During the pandemic, I cut back on my trips to the shooting range dramatically.
I agree 100% with your review - both the positive and negative. Absolutely love the point and shoot accuracy. Absolutely do not like the takedown. As you, I’ve seen videos of easy takedowns, but so far it hinders me from using the P938 as much as I’d like at the range. I’ve tried the slide pull back with my right hand in the manner most recommend but still isn’t “easy” for me. Perhaps my only real complaint. Love the 92FS take down and Glock 26 isn’t too bad, but the 938 is lacking IMHO.
I've been told that with time, the spring will weaken that is making it more difficult to take down, but I haven't noticed any difference so far.
They are nice pistols
They really are....obviously high quality construction.
I enjoyed your video. I'm considering the Legion variation. Your voice reminds me of Al Gore's voice.
I get that a lot....that and Forrest Gump's voice.
GrowLLLTigeRRR: Can't you just see it, Al Gore doing a video promoting a gun, a POCKET gun? I could die laughing!
nunya inct: You will love it. I've owned the Legion for a little over 6 months and it is gorgeous, accurate, and a joy to hold.
Just a fantastic pistol!
Wish it hadn't taken me so long to decide to buy one!
Agreed. Great gun. I bought one then sold it, I soon regretted selling it and then bought the SAS model about a year later. Not making the same mistake twice.
nice video. I like the fact that you hit the high points both good and bad and didn't ramble on and on like some videos. I own the p938 and really like it. I did shave off the right side ambi safety making it completely flush because I found that twice I had rubbed up against something and disengaged the safety. That did scare me so now it is flush with the right side of the p938. I found that you can buy the safety lever for the p238 from Sig and this will solve the same issue. Over all I am with you and it is my favorite edc gun. Guns and knives are like spouses, you pick the best one you can find and then you work with the differences.
Glad you appreciate my approach to reviews. I don't particularly appreciate the rambling on and on of many reviewers. I get the impression they love the sound of their voices much more than I do. Good point on the safety. It hasn't been a problem for me, but something to think about. Take care!
Really appreciate your very informative video. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Like your narration style man, keep it up.
Thanks. I had to look "narration" up in the dictionary and I'm still not sure what it means. Telling a story...like a bedtime story. :) Maybe people listen to me to go to sleep. I know that's why listen to some others.
@@ima4ster I really liked your voice, it's deep, keep up the good work, hope to see great content, have subscribed your channel.
Great review really appreciate it.
Thanks. Glad you liked it. My Sig P365 has largely replaced this P938 as my EDC, but I still carry this Little Big Man occasionally.
It’s an excellent weapon. It would be even better with a grip safety like the 1911.
It's a solid little gun. I was nervous at first about carrying this gun cocked and locked in my pocket, but it's never gone off accidently. :)
I had a Colt mustang .380 many years ago and it was a total turd, it wouldn't feed or eject and you rarely got two shots off without a malfunction. seeing this gun reminds me of that gun because it's the exact same design
I've never shot a Colt Mustang, but this Sig is sweet.
Nice video. Based on my satisfaction with the P238, I ordered a P938. It's the SAS version :-). I hope it comes with more than one magazine because it is more spendy than the P238 was. Desantis makes a superfly holster that seems to me to be much better than the Nemesis which is poor at hiding the outline of a gun. Obviously your pocket will still look like it's filled with something. I'm not sure it's physically possible to avoid that.
Want to trade? You found the one I wanted! :)
From my research, I've found that some of the P938s have had loose barrels or bad extractors. If I get one of those and Sig can't fix it to my satisfaction, I'll consider a trade :-)
Oh, I just ran across this one: ua-cam.com/video/U1MmGRzcKes/v-deo.html
I picked up the P938 today and ran 100 rounds through it. I had a few failures to go into battery and one feed jam that required me to drop the magazine to clear it. I also ran another 100 through the P238 with zero issues.
When I got the gun home I field stripped it. It looks like it was shipped dry. I'll clean it and lube it before running more ammo through it. I found reassembly much more difficult than the P238. The barrel can rotate and snag the extractor. I mean really snag. It's tough to separate the two and I don't want to break the extractor or damage it in any way. The recoil spring is much heavier, as it needs to be. That took a LOT of fiddling and it kept rotating the barrel so that it would snag on the extractor. I've got it together now.
Sig shipped the SAS with just the one seven round extended magazine. Except for the malfunctions, I did enjoy shooting it. The grip is distinctly beefier than the P238 grip. I didn't feel at all like the gun wanted to jump out of my hand. I was shooting the Remington green and white box 124gr FMJ. I found it much more pleasant to shoot and more accurate than my Ruger LC9s Pro.
Mine came with one flush fit and one extended. I bought another extended. The flush fit lives in the gun safe.
I don't like to carry an extra key in my pocket....I can't imagine carrying anything bigger than a NAA mini revolver in that style of carry. To each his own, I think kydex OWB paddle is the most comfortable and most importantly quick on the draw.
I definitely agree that OWB is the most comfortable carry option. I just don't always have a cover garment during the day, so I have to resort to pocket carry.
That is a great deal. I thought most come with 1 magazine. As far as takedown, I find it easier to turn the gun upside down in my left hand with my thumb under the beavertail and move the slide back with my fingers and I can just pull the pin out with my finger
Thanks for the tip. I'll give it a try.
I've had issues with Kahr, and will never own another. I like Sig a lot. One note regarding the 938 (which I like a lot), the Ammo Quest guy did have the guide rod launch out of his because it's 2 pieces and it came apart. You'll want to make sure yours is not loose after use.
The Sig is definitely higher quality than the Kahr. I'll be making a couple of follow-up videos in coming months comparing the Kahr PM9 to the P938.
i don't like the L O N G trigger pull of the kahr.
i L O V E the sig single action 911 format with the mechanical safety and tight trigger.
Nice video.... you know if Sig were to modify this gun to be able to hold more than than 11 rounds like the 365 I believe
that this gun would sell like hotcakes...... its great the way it is but I would certainly buy it with 10- or more rounds
I have the P365 now. Which would I carry between the P365 and the P938 if they had the same capacity? I believe it would be the 365.
@@ima4sterBesides the extra rounds, why do you prefer the 365?
Very nice video.... very nice gun!
Thanks....I meant to make this video several months ago, but just kept putting it off. I have 3-4 videos that fall in the "I'll get to it soon" category. Thanks for watching.
Nice shooter for sure, but they are a pain in the ass to take apart and put back together. Between the need for holding the slide exactly right while taking the slide release out and then reinserting the crazy long spring with the crazy short guide rod, it definitely takes some practice To disassemble and reassemble. I had my Smith & Wesson M&P Shield 9 mm completely apart and back together again before my friend could even disassemble his P938. I like shooting it well enough, and it would be real nice to carry, since it is so small, but I won’t own one, despite all the other positives.
I've had a couple or tips to make take-down easier, but it is still a little difficult for me. I don't have to take it down that often though.
I like everything about this .380 but the short grip, guess it don't matter i'm in Ca where they are illegal, bastards!!
ogarzabello my mistake
I feel your pain. I'd say move but that would be too simple. No way I would ever consider living like you're forced to live. Move anywhere in the Southeast, you won't regret it in the long run. Just make sure you leave your politics in California.
Thx for the Video
Can u provide me links to ur holsters for this sig please 🙏
ua-cam.com/video/MtJvFEi1YxM/v-deo.html
I'm with you, don't need the hassle of the police. Of course they don't practice, & can carry more rounds .
:) What did I say about the police? I'm guessing that I just don't like printing because of the police attention it might bring. I had so many traffic stops and walking stops that I felt like I was being targeted at one time.
Walking stops? Do you live in NYC? Those are illegal but they do them anyway. Also a recent discovery shows that the NYPD is quite willing to break the law in other ways such as lying under oath in court and beating people up. I would love to believe that is just paranoia on my part except that it came from a mainstream news source.
Not sure why 16 oz seems heavy for you. My Taurus PT709, no dbm, comes in at 17 oz. Plus it has a polymer frame. (Also, it's out of production.)
My Seecamp 32 and Ruger LCP are light enough that the weight doesn't bother me. Once I get up to my SigP938 and Kahr PM9, their size and weight doesn't let me forget that they are in my pocket. I still carry them regularly, but I can't deny that the weight bothers me a little. It's a personal thing, I guess.
Nice Review.The gun store where I go hired a young boy the other day never own a pistol before a couple weeks later he was carring a SIgP938.Take Care
He made a good decision on his first gun. :)
Don't be shocked but I have never owned a Sig. I usually pocket carry an LCR and a BG-380 at times. At $600 you get what you pay for and I'm sure it's a quality firearm.
There are so many good choices in manufacturers that I can easily see you not owning a Sig. I don't own a Glock for instance. :)
It would take an exceptional company and handgun for my money and Sig is one of those companies
I also like carrying my S&W 640 revolver. Very reliable to operate.
$600? My SAS model cost $700. The Blackwood model is an entry level P938.
Are those Rosewood grips? it's a mini 1911, I really like it.
revolver8shot I'm not sure about the grips. I even went to the manufacturer's Web site but didnt find any more info. I think they are made of a composite material and given a wood grain, but I could be wrong.
Nice video!!
Robby Pratt That's a nice first gun!
Sweet
I hear ya.
The perfect concealed carry is feather lite, invisible, supremely accurate, dirt cheap. Good luck.
I'd settle for 3 out of those 4. :)
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Thanks for stopping by!
I'm considering either this or a Colt Defender in 9 mm.
Dan B I'm not familiar with the Defender, but I can vouch for this little Sig.
Thanks for responding. I recently bought Defender in .45 which I bought in honor of my dad's passing. I don't plan on firing it. I want to become more familiar with Single Action only. I figure a 9mm SA is a great start. Great video though.
The weight? It's about the lightest 9mm you can buy.
I wouldn't care to shoot one any lighter.
Thanks for the review. What pocket holster are you using?
Chad234 An Alabama kydex holster
I guess you haven't heard of the recoil Guide rod flying out of these… happens quite often.
Now that you mention it....I vaguely recall hearing about this. I didn't realize that it was this handgun.
The p938 has a two piece quite rod. It needs to be checked when you clean the gun to make sure it is not coming “unscrewed”. If it comes apart the front section will fly out the front of the gun. Not sure how often this issue has actually happened - never had any issues with mine.
I've heard, but it hasn't happened to me in 2+ years/3000 rounds. There is a company making a one-piece replacement; I think they're called something creative, like "Stainless Steel Guide Rods"?
Haha I call my SAS “OleStonewall”.
What’re the odds
Remember Ole Stonewall died of friendly gun fire. Better be careful at the range! :)
ima4ster
Haha Gun safety was engraved into my brain at the age of 9. I’ll always be safe as long as nobody try’s to scalp me 🙃
Strange mine only came with one mag.
I don't think I ordered an extra mag....I believe it came standard. I just bought this a year ago, so maybe it's a new marketing strategy.
There is no rhyme or reason with what comes in the box when you buy a Sig. I’m convinced they just send you what they want you to have. The Sig website does not specify what comes with various models. Some will come with the plastic holster while others will not. Some with only one mag. My p938 Equinox came with one six round mag and the holster.
I just bought mine this week. It came NIB with 1 extended 7 round mag. The salesman gave me an extra 6 round flush mag for free when I asked about it. I plan on buying another 7 round mag this weekend at Bass Pro shop while I'm there. $42 dollars. One thing about Sig, they think their mags are made from gold. No POS kydex holster that I wouldn't have used anyway.
Mine didnt even come with the flush mag.... Just 3 extended mags..... Let me show my sad face 😃😃😃😂😂😂
I'd contact Sig and complain. Maybe they'll send you a flush fit mag free!
Which Defense Ammo does this gun like to feed?
Or perhaps what's your preferred Ammo and grain for this particular gun? Because I'm about to buy one. It's funny, I currently carry a PM40 and about to switch, mainly because of the long trigger from PM40 to short trigger of 938.
Any other advice before buying?
I run Speer Gold Dot 124 gr. hollow points in my Sig P938. I've never had any problem with Gold Dot in any of my handguns. I'm getting ready to do a comparison video of the Sig P938 and the Kahr PM9. I'll upload it by this coming Saturday depending on how busy I am at work this week.
Just ordered my Sig today with a nice promotion from Sig with two extra mags and a bag.
A note to those new to guns and why I'd buy a similar size gun over my Kahr PM40 and spend another $600 to overcome one simple difference and that is a better"Trigger".
Grip purchase and trigger pull makes a HUGE difference in shooting accurately. 90% of these L O N G Double Action trigger, where the finger has to travel all the way down to the end, causes the front to shift to left side (if you're right handed) and this happens to me with my Kahr.
I can shoot perfectly with my 1911 Kimber or my SR9c which all have short travel.
Perfect size grip and crisp/short trigger promotes better shooting.
Just my two cents...
..Ben
Sweet deal. I know you'll be pleased with it. I own 3 Sigs and they are all quality guns.
I think it was your video that pushed me over the edge :-) especially we both wanted something the same size as PM but a better gun. So, our requirements were very similar and I valued your review.
Thank you!
Do they make it in a .22? Thinking about one for the wife. She's not the best with pocket pistols. For example I have a Ruger 380 and she hates it. It's the recoil, etc. just a general confidence thing I guess. But hard for her to conceal anything else.
I'm not an authority on this, but I doubt it comes in .22. A similar model comes in .380 and with the heft of this handgun, recoil might not bother your wife.
they do make a 938 in 22lr
www.sigsauer.com/store/p938-22-target-micro-compact.html
They also make a conversion kit that will convert the p938 into a 22
An officer flipped me the bird the other day. The feeling is mutual. You can read whatever you like into that statement. :-)
Nice review, but I was concerned that the gun was loaded and on several occasions pointed at your hand or worse. I recognize the safety was on but as a matter of practice think it best to never point a loaded gun at something you wouldn't want destroyed.
J Curtice I reached it and see what you mean. I believe the gun was unloaded throughout the video except for the Section where I demonstrated the safety, but a viewer could have had the impression that it was loaded the whole time.
J Curtice I rewatched it....
Like $550+...little dog, big bite!!
Randall Kelley Sounds like you got a better deal?
I have the same Blackwood P938 and I was just wondering if your AMBI safety lever rattles?
I'll check this evening and get back to you.
Not shoot off parts? They shoot out guide rods!
Yeah, now that you mention it, I have heard about that. Not sure how common a problem it is. Mine has run flawlessly.
Sounded common
have you ran hollow point ammo in this gun ? Im giving a lot of thought to purchasing one but iv seen a number of complaints that it will jam with hollow points . I dislike my Kahr for the exact reason .
Yes, I've run Speer Gold Dots through the P938 with no problem. I had heard of feeding problems with the Kahr PM9, but not the Sig. I haven't had problems with either of them.
My Emperor Scorpion is my EDC gun. I gave 650.00 dollars. It is worth more!
I'm not familiar with it, but I'll look it up.
I wont
Is that "won't" or "want?" I'm guessing want.
Only a fool carries a gun in their pocket.. the title pocket gun don't imply it is to be carried in a pocket, pocket is just a general term to imply something is on the tiny end of small. I mean, people don't actually carry pocket dogs in their pocket, it is just what they're dubbed being their size is smaller than that of an average small dog.
Should always carry in a good holster that completely guards the trigger.
I've never heard of the term "pocket dog." You made that up, right? :) I think your opinion would change if you were in shorts & t-shirt in the summer and got mugged.
@@ima4ster no I did not make the term pocket dog up, it's a real thing. As for carrying I don't care what time of year it is or how I'm dressed I never leave home without my ccw riding @ 430/5 iwb
I pocket carry in a sticky holster or an Alabama pocket holster. I do as does Hickock 45. I guess we are both fools.