SIG SAUER P938...THE COOLEST GUN I WON'T CARRY
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
- This is a tabletop review of the SIG SAUER P938. In this video we will discuss the history, size and features of the firearm. In addition, we will demonstrate how to field strip and reassemble the gun for cleaning and inspection. Range performance will also be discussed along with different tested methods of carry and how comfortable it is to carry on a regular basis. Last, we will provide an overall opinion of how this firearm stacks up for concealed carry purposes. Thanks for watching!
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Dude, the P938 legion is the gun you are looking for. Comes with not one, but 3 extended mags. Incredible firearm
Bought my P938 about three years ago. It came with two mags, one with the extended pinky extension. It has been very reliable. ZERO misfires, stove piping or hang fires. Accuracy at 25 yards is amazing. Mild recoil with standard 9mm and VERY easy to rack the slide to chamber a round, unlike every other sub compact semi auto I’ve tried. I love it.
Your experience with the P938 is virtually the exact opposite of my experience. Easy to conceal, however, persistent FTEs and sharp recoil even with prescribed two handed grip are the norm. Take down and reassembly is more difficult than necessary. Local respectable gunsmith could not find a problem with the pistol.
Yea, I have the p938 sas too that I bought new. Mine definitely came with the flush mag and extended mag. Also, regadless of it came with an extra mag or not, saying you won't carry a $700 gun because it didn't come with an extra $20 mag is a bit much.
I've shot handloaded light loads, freedom munitions factory reloaded, gold dot, high powered self drfense rounds, and just random bulk 9mm from whatever brands... Never had a single issue.
It's definitely snappy and not a good range toy, but you're buying a tiny 9mm, it's going to be much more snappy than say a glock 17 lol.
People complaining that it's both too snappy and has feed issues.. seems like a very overlapping vinn diagram... I bet people are limp wristing and the gun isn't cycling
I have one of these !!!! Terrible, looks good but has many issues
@@dwrecked9329limp wristing will have some sell a gun not realizing its them sig makes quality 👌
I have a p938 with hogue oversized grips. This is a great gun. I have on order a p938 legion. I can't wait to get this gun also. Sig makes a great weapon. I carry mine everyday.
I have one. 100% reliable with all ammo I've tried. No issues. It is a great little carry pistol.
I've has my sig 938 since right came out. Mine came with a extended magazine & the small magazine.
I've shot Mine over 500 times absolutely NO malfunctions.
I carry it every day all day.
Mine came with a rubber grip.
The grip is very comfortable.
Wouldn't trade it for the world.
Great edc gun. I love mine.
Owned my p938 about 6yrs. Carry it most days, very reliable, EXTREMELY accurate. Have fired about 2000 rds. thru it. It certainly has a home.
I've owned my P938 SAS since May, 2015 (and still have the sales receipt in the storage case). I carry it daily, and I frequent the range with it. In my experience, I haven't had any issues with mine, at all.
I love my P938 sport as well
My p938 mag keep falling out🤣. I had to get a enhance spring. And my p238 have primer strike issue once every time I goto the range. My new p238 trigger pull is like 9.5lb!
I too have owned the extreme model and carry it everyday. I carry a flush mag and at 15 yards I can shoot a fist size group every time. You have to practice with your carry gun. In reality, most civilian shootings happen within 3 feet, fire 3 rounds and last 3 seconds. consider that when choosing a CC gun.
@@slsk9 that's damn impressive. 3 inch group at 15 yard 3 shots under 3 sec
@@seek3n reading comprehension. Try it.
This is my EDC & has been for several years. I presently own 2 of them, each is mounted with a laser. I trust it to protect my life. I also purchased one for my daughter to carry, which she does every day. When each of these were bought they ALL came with both an extended mag & the shorter mag. These mags NEED to be broken-in to loosen the springs!! I loaded the mags & left them loaded for 3 days. I then loaded & unloaded them several times. Since then I've had 0 failures. Each also came with hard wooden grips AND rubber grips with finger grooves. I use the rubber grips for general shooting practice & OWB carry. I use the hard wood grips for pocket carry (which I much prefer). FABULOUS GUN!!
When I bought mine it came with 2 mags, 1 flush fit 1 extended. Mine also came with the rubber grip with finger grooves a little bulky but you get a nice grip on it. Great little gun I still carry it. I’ve taken it to the range a handful of times with no problem even with carry ammo. 👍I hope Sig takes care of the problem for you.
I've had my p938 for a few years and have ran both target and self defense rounds through it with zero issues also mine came with the extended magazine
I’ve owned an Sig p938 SAS and carry it everyday. It conceals great, it shoots very accurately, it’s reliable, no misfires, no failure to feed. It’s better than my Glock 43x.
I bought a P238 when it was new and added a P938 when it came along. The 238 had a lot of problems when new and needed a couple hundred rounds and lubrication before it smoothed out. The 938 was similar but never smoothed out like the 238. The gun was designed for the .380 and when adopted for 9mm I suspect the heavier spring made the gun require an even firmer grip to cycle properly. As far as the hand grip, the 7 round mag seems to solve that on both pistols. This gun is perfect size for the .380 cartridge but a little too small for 9mm.
Have one, my wife have another one - no feeding issues with any type of ammo.
I have one too. Also no feeding issue.
Same here. The only time I had a feeding issue with was ammo I loaded myself and it's only happened once in about 250 rounds through it.
Change the magazine... it's always the magazine.
My mother owns this pistol. She had a few malfunctions to begin with but they were user errors not the pistol. I will be honest I am not a Sig guy by any means, however, after shooting this yesterday 50 rounds of Blazer 115GR FMJ I feel comfortable carrying this pistol. Three pinky extension 7 rd mags only load six in each one in the chamber cocked and locked. Carrying it as we speak!
why only 6 if i may ask?
@@antdogboyness_66 yeah why?
Why only 6rds in 7rnd mag?
Give it back to your mom
Wonderful son for sure.
I purchased my 938 about 2 years ago. it was the LEGION model. it was a definite improvement from yours. it cams with 3 magazines holding 7 rounds each, it had a g10 grips, Anextension at the bottom of the grips that would have taken care of your pinky. it is a MICRO pistol. I have put hundreds of rounds down range and have NEVER had a an issue with ammo, stovepipe, etc, etc , etc...... .you should have looked at the legion version.my pistol was a little over 700$ bucks....well worth It
Mine came with the extended magazines.
Also magazines from that Kimber you showed are identical and are interchangeable. I use my 8 rd Micro 9 mags.
Did some work on my P938 and it runs like a champ…M-Carbo spring kit, Tillamook Precision steel trigger, Hogue rubber grips with finger grooves, extended mags with pinky hold, heavy magazine release spring from Midwest Gunworks, left-side only safety (OEM, P238 fits fine)…enough DIY work that it took all the fiddly stuff with this gun and pretty much eliminated it.
Takes a lot of getting used to when it comes to assembly and disassembly (there’s lots of stuff you can do to literally render the gun unshootable if you’re not careful), but once you’re familiar and know what to look out for (don’t put the safety on when disassembled, don’t over-depress the extractor when you’re putting the slide back on, don’t accidentally launch the slide release spring, don’t put the takedown pin in the wrong hole when putting the gun back together), you have yourself an amazing carry gun that’s more than worth the effort.
For what it’s worth, I chose the P938 over the Kimber Micro 9…just felt it was a more solid option…and I wouldn’t own a Glock if Glock was the only gun mfg. in the world…lol. As for feed failures, the only issues I’ve had have been mag related…in general I find the magazines to be kind of janky/chintzy and I did have a magazine whose base plate that wanted to press out when the mag was full…it was for sure a mag issue tho I did replace the magazine release spring (heavied it up, as I said).
Carry wise, I run an Urban Carry lock leather for OWB, a HAWG Holster for those rare occasions I run IWB and, indeed, I LOVE the DeSantis pocket holster (I have one for my P938 and one for my wife’s Walther PPK/S).
I tried the MCarbo spring kit and had several light strikes in the first couple of magazines. Changed ammo and the problem still occurred. I put the OEM springs back in.
I also have a "Redwood " handled P938 with a seven round Sig magazine. After owning and shooting it many years without any problems it began having occasional failure to feed problems on the same ammunition I have practiced with for years. I tried other brands with the same failure to feed issues recurring. Over time the failure to feed issues worsened becoming more frequent i.e. several failures in a single magazine. Eventually the magazine itself began ejecting completely out of the pistol while half loaded. After much online research the problem ended up being a worn magazine release spring. I replaced the spring at home easily with a red colored" heavy duty" magazine release spring from Midwest Gun Works. It solved all the problems without the need to replace the original Sig 7 round magazine. The gun function is now rock solid. Multiple attempts to induce a failure to feed with rapid fire "magazine dumps" have failed to reproduce the problem. Nice to have my old friend back !
I was just as excited waiting for mine a few years ago. It came with the 7 round magazine with the pinky extension. Even with the extension, I agree the grip is less than comfortable. Overall, however, I love the gun and it is very comfortable to carry. In several years of ownership and various types and brands of ammo there not not been a single failure to feed or any other problem. I just bought a 6 round magazine today and am curious to see if it causes any problems.
I've had my 938 for about a year, It can with the extended mag. I have never had a FTF.
I have the legion version. I had a few fail to feed so I really cleaned up the feed ramp. Once I did that I’ve gone through maybe 200 rounds no issue. It came with 3 7 rd mags and I bought an extra
I have both micro 9 and 2 938s one being a legion, the kimber magazine works in the sig and are less expensive and they make 8 round ones. The only problem with the standard 938 is the plastic trigger that can break at the pivot, mine did at 1500 rounds.
The micro 9 has a metal trigger stock as does the legion 938. Carry one every day and shoots great.
Zero issues of FTF you’ve described, Extremely reliable and fun to shoot. Cheers!
I had a few failure to feed at first , but it cleared up and no problems ever since
I have a P938 Extreme that came with both mags, G10 grips, and SigLite sights. It’s light, accurate, and reliable. Also have a P238 that’s been a great shooter, too. I think you need to run these wetter than normal, at least until they’re worn in a little. But I don’t recall any feed issues on either of these pistols.
That Kimber you have looks Baddass, I like how the grips blended in with that digital texture that matches the cuts on the slide...thats nice.
That Kimber is my go-to carry gun right now. For what I need, it’s perfect.
Mine came with the extended magazine. First time out at the range I ran over 100 rounds through it and never had a failure. Shot well 15 yards.
what extended mag did you have ?
@@lucilledog8832 or like me I bought 2 spare mags
Mine also came with the extended magazine. I’ve had mine for over 12 years and thousands of rounds and never had a fail. Needless to say, I love this gun. It’s been an accurate shoot since day one, and I’ve highly recommended it to many of my friends.
Mine stovepiped every magazine on the fifth round when I first got it so I sent it back, they replaced the ejector and ejector spring and it’s run 100% reliably ever since. Mine has the rubber hogue style grips and came with an extended magazine. I’ve carried it every day in every season for about 10 years now, it took me some time to trust it completely due to the failure to eject issue so I can understand your apprehension. You already have a lot of money into it but it might be worth it to pop for an extended magazine and see it resolves the fail to feed problem, it’d also give that third finger something to grip.
After about the fourth magizine at the range - fired a round, and the slide stop flew out of the gun. I never had a failure like this. Standard pressure ammo. I bought this so called " like new" condition, but maybe the previous owner messed it up.
Great review sir. I have the same Sig and have never had any issues with several hundreds of rounds through it. But today I’m packing the 365xl on the daily.
I’m the same way with any pistol that has issues on the range, if there’s any type of malfunction I am hesitant to keep it in my carry rotation fo sure
I had an M&P body guard 380 that failed often and the mag would drop out. I sent it to M&P twice very frustrating, never carried and got rid of it. I have had a Legion P938 for over a year now. Up to around 500 or so rounds now with different ammo, has never failed and is very accurate. Still like the 43x best for EDC but the P938 is better size for pocket when needed.
I have the exact same model. Grips, sights, everything and have the exact same issue. Mine is from when they first came out so I figured it was just a bug since they were new at the time.
Just purchased the Equinox addition today. Beautiful gun, super excited to get it, and hoping my wife can easily fire it. I will absolutely keep you guys posted on it. Thanks so much for the video..
Best of luck with your purchase, and thanks for watching!
how is it?
Magazine latch spring or the magazine itself is my guess as to why your gun had issues. Any update?
I bought a P938 Legion used. Came with 3 7+1 mags (extended). No shooting, feeding, or ejection issues at all. Only issues were 2 of the 3 mags would not hold 7 rounds. I took the mags apart and cleaned them. One of them looked like the spring was reversed. After reassembly, 1 holds 7 the other almost 7 (still working with this one). Purchased 2 more 7 round mags - both easily hold 7. Stippling was a bit aggressive so I put on Talon grips. Love the single action and trigger. Very 1911-ish.
Mine has the finger grooves, I didn't want the one with 1911 style plates. Ad the one I purchased came with the 6 and 7 round page. There's a lot of options, you just have to shop around.
2 piece guide rod. Mine came apart 2nd time at the range. Shot out of the front of the gun and I was unaware it happened, the gun still functioned. Got home to clean the gun and the front of the guide rod was missing. Found out this is not uncommon to happen to the 938. Called Sig and the sent a new guide rod. I was planning to take it apart, unscrew it, and reassemble using red lock tight. I was not able to budge it so I figure Sig had already addressed the issue with red lock tight or something else. Gun has performed flawlessly since that episode.
I have had NO issues of any kind after 600 rounds. Mine came with a Sig branded laser and two 7-round magazines. It is (after swapping the hammer spring and the firing pin spring) absolutely the finest pistol I have shot. I'm sorry that you are experiencing issues, I hope you get your problems resolved and gain enough confidence to carry it.
I received mine back from SiG Friday. Going to the range on Monday. Follow up video will follow! (Fingers crossed)
Mine came with an extended magazine and a 6-round magazine. I never had a stoppage with it. It’s an excellent CCW.
I got the 7 round mag with my 938 BRG (black rubber grip w finger grooves)
I had some feed issues early on as I never had such a small piece. Once I trained through those, it been great.
Never had a failure on the 6rd factory magazine. I purchased the 7rd and have had issues with lower quality ammunition. Decent range ammo will work great
I've never had a feed issue with mine. Also, mine came with two 7 round magazines with extensions. I have the P938 the only difference is I have the rubber grips instead of the rosewood. This was all factory. I carry in a Versacarry Element @ 12 o'clock. Super comfortable.
A gun this small is easy to limp wrist…that is something I find with a lot of feed issues with guns of this size.
Mine came with both the regular and extended mag out of the box. I've put a couple thousand rounds through it with no failures. Shoots great, nice trigger pull, accurate. Being so small it is a bit more difficult than I'd like releasing the standard mag, not as big a problem with the extended.
Have same gun,with scrolling. Love mine. It came with two mags,regular and extended. Only thing I have had happen,somehow I will inadvertently hit the mag release. Working on that. Operator error,not a weapon problem.
I believe this UA-camr’s problem is operator headspace and timing. He seems very inexperienced in firearms
I have owned a carries mine for over 5 years and have shot everything in it including +P with no issue. It may be the magazine follower I have had to adjust mine on certain magazines but after that nibissues
Interesting...SIG has the gun at the moment, hoping to get it back soon and do a follow up. Thanks for watching!
I own the P238. I’ve owned it for over a year and never shot it. In fact never owned a pistol before. I finally got to shoot it the other day. I took it out loaded the magazine and began shooting. I ended up shooting about 100 rounds And never had a problem. The first 50 rounds were terrible I could barely hit the target. By the end of the hundred rounds I was hitting the paper plate we were using four or five out of the seven rounds in my mag. So far very pleased with the P2 38 and looking forward to shooting a couple hundred more rounds soon. By the way we were at 50 feet. Now I’m very pleased since you mentioned you train at 21 feet. 😊
My wife and I each have a 938 . Initially I had an issue with the magazine releasing while firing . Sig solved the problem. We both have had zero problems since . It is my favourite summer carry handgun . When wearing heavier clothing I prefer my HK P30sks .
One of my favorites in my arsenal
I carried the p938 (SAS model) for 8 years before recently joining the doublestack micro crowd. I still use it for pocket carry occasionally. Mine came with both a flush fit 6 rounder and the 7 rounder with the pinky extension. I never had any feeding issues whatsoever, regardless of magazine or ammo choice.
I have this gun and have never had any feeding problems with any ammo except Federal Syntech ammo. Something about that synthetic jacket that my P938 and my Kimber Micro 9 do not like. Mine came with a 6 round clip like yours and a 7 round extended clip. It is my favorite gun!
I have a p238.2 mags one extend and a lazer sight. Depending on package. Love the model
Mine came with a 7 round mag with the extended purchase for the pinky in addition the the 6 rd mag. I love this gun.
I have one and purchased the extended mag at same time. I’ve shot multiple types of factory ammo and several types of my own reloads. Gold dots, Federal Syntech, Hornady XTP, Sierra V Crown and a couple of different FMJ bullets. Several hundred rounds and not a single FTF.
I bought one in 2014. Never had any failure to fire problems. I did have the top of the guide rod unscrew itself. Didn't unscrew all the way, but noticed it was very loose after shooting at the range. Also had the front sight come clean off while shooting. Both things I fixed myself. Still have it and use as carry. It was very expensive at $800.00, and would have expected better from Sig. Mine did come with one extended mag and one regular mag.
I have a sig p238 HD stainless. The 9mm version came out 3 months after I bought mine. The two pistols that I own that are the smoothest,
most accurate and reliable are my P238 and my Baretta 92fs stainless. They are both bomb proof. One caution on reassembly of the Sig. If you push that little curved pin to far down it can pop down off it's guide and you will have to completely dissemble the handle to put it back in position. It is a very difficult process to do that. Many people would need a gunsmith to reassemble it.
Ive had the p938 SAS now for 3 years. Had been my EDC for 2 years until I turned to p365. I never had any issues with the firearm no matter what ammo. Love the gun but actually selling it today just because I don't carry it anymore. Mixed emotions
I have the 2 tone custom shop SAS version (not the new sight) and mine came with 2, 7 round mags in the box. Kimber also makes 8 round mags that work equally well in the 938 which are great spares in a NeoMag or 2. I have zero issues getting a 3 finger grip and mine has been 100% reliable. It’s my go to summer/hot weather deep carry. I also carry a 43x year round too. No reason this isn’t a phenomenal carry gun. Extremely shootable and ergonomic. Love my 938 SAS from the Custom Shop. Just hearing lame excuses here.
Well I purchased the Legion version, it came with 3 extended 7 round mags, the first of September 2023, 500+ rounds threw it with zero issues or malfunctions. That's with range and defensive HP's. I also got a nice gun bag and coin for "free" a couple of weeks later after registration with Sig. Sorry your experience wasn't so good, maybe try different ammo.
Mine has a little over 1,000 rounds through it with hallows and round nose bullets. 100% reliable so far. My father bought a 938 and had has issues with his factory 7 round mag dropping out during firing. With other mags including the springfield 911 mags his has been solid. Always test your equipment for the occasional lemon.
I've owned the gun for approximately 3 years and only had the magazine jam one time. For me, it's been a reliable firearm that I carry on a daily basis. A very good reliable weapon easily carried. My only problem is it's only a 6 + 1 so I do carry two magazines when out.
I have had my P938 for several years. I have fired all kinds of practice ammo as well carry ammo. I have never had an issue with misfiring, jamming etc. I have fired 300+ rounds thru it
I have 2 that I have been shooting for about 10 years. This is a great a gun with no issues. Most comfortable small gun that I have shot. Great trigger with low recoil. The sister 308 is also a great gun.
Many members of my gun club carry one and all love them.
I own my p938 extreme. Mine came with the extended mag and the flush mag have it had many misfeed problems the only problem I had with my pistol is the guide rod screws in to the Head and it kept getting loose so I bought a solid guide rod and put it in and have no worries about it coming out during shooting.
I’ve got the Springfield Armory 911 in .380 ACP, essentially the same design made by a competitor. Had it for 3 1/2 years now. There are a couple of other guns I carry now and again but this is what I carry 90% of the time.
First couple hundred rounds I was having some failures to go into battery and light primer strikes. After that, it was very reliable, with either six or seven round mags.
One important thing I learned from a guy who helped run the range I was shooting at had to do with the best way to clean this particular type of pistol. He said don’t use too much CLP-type oily cleaners, but instead use a non oil based cleaner like Birchwood Casey “Gun Scrubber”, especially on the slide assembly. I took his advice and the problems disappeared. I’ve got probably 2000 rounds through it now and as long as I clean it every 100-150 rounds, it is as reliable as the day is long.
I pocket carry mine with a lazer. Springfield mags are great for getting around the sig tax. Mine also came with the extended mag.
I have 2 938 had same problem found out it was one of the mags. It was one of the 6 round mag that comes with the gun so I bought all 7 round Mags with a pinky extension on it . Problem solved
I put on Hogue finger grips and gave the 938 an extended trial but my experience was the same. Many failures and I have no limp wrist. My cross pin can easily fall out when slide racking if left tilt. No trust. Moved on to the many other options. I’m an old 1911 kinda guy but striker fired is fine too, whatever goes bang everytime.
i bought one not long after they came out.. only issue i had was mag fell out with every shot.. turned out +p aren`t really good for it and clasp that hold in mag was a bit worn off . sig replaced Mag catch and also upgraded some parts that weren`t availble when pistol first came out.. Ever since it has been very reliable and i do love it. i bought a couple more 7 rnd mags and never use the 6 rnd mag. the p 938 is very accurate as far as 30 yrds and some people did comment on close i came at a 70 Yrd target.
I have the 938 emperor scorpion and mine came with both mags, not sure why it came with only one but I have large hands and of coarse like the extended mag but use both and have great results.I have never had an issue since day one and own a P320 as well. Sig has always been on point with customer service so that certainly surprised me that you have sent it in and I have to believe they covered everything in testing being the importance of a carry weapon/Any weapon for that matter. If it were me I would buy two extended mags and shoot hundreds of rounds through it to break it in ,Maybe not cleaning it prior to shooting when its new ,I personally have never done that.
Great to hear! Also on a positive note, mine was returned from SIG and functions fine at the moment. I have a follow up video in the schedule. Thanks for watching!
I've only had issues with the Sig self defense ammo. Every second round or so it would fail to feed. Other than that, everything else has never failed me. I own a emperor scorpion TB.
First, thank you for a very thorough review, even a generous review, considering your experience. Mine came with two magazines (one extended) and a holster (looks like a Fobus, but doesn't say). I've only put 300 rounds through it, because I purchased it just before Covid, and I have been "economizing" on ammo since then. But I had no failures to feed or to extract or to fire in those 300 rounds (my Glocks 23 and 27 had no FTF or FTE, but two dented primers that fired on the second try, out of probably two thousand rounds each, so they were reliable too; my Kimber has had no failures of any sort in several thousand rounds). So I wonder, since the P938 is similar in some respects to a 1911, if your short magazine effectively causes a limp-wrist. My hands are so small that I can get three fingers on the grip, and I grip it firmly, as I do my Kimber Ultra CDP II. But for an individual with larger hands, it might be that the wrist is not limp, but there's just not enough grip available to hold against the recoil at the bottom of the grip, so that you get the effect of a limp wrist, without a limp wrist! If you have a friend who is roughly 5'-3", as I am, with small hands, it might be worth having him test it. Maybe the people in New Hampshire who are testing it have small-ish hands also, and that would explain it. Sorry I can't offer more, other than well-wishes for resolution, and for happy and safe shooting.
I have a 938 and a 238, both work flawlessly. However I use a dry moly lube. I pocket carry, so my pistols fill with lint. After carrying for even 4 months without cleaning , plenty of lint, both pistols fire flawlessly, no failure to eject, no failure to chamber, no failure to fire, flawless.
Springfield 911 mags work and are under $20 6 or 7 rounds. I have the factory houge and 7 round mag in mine love it. I’m lucky to have no malfunctions I know the early ones have 238 parts in them caused a lot of problems. Thanks for the video.
I have recently bought the 911 mag for my 938 sas. I am having trouble using the slide release on an empty mag. Loaded it performs fine. I can slip my finger in the chamber and depress the follower and the slide release works fine. I have noticed that the follower rides higher in the Springfield mag. Have you noticed anything similar?
I have a P938 Equinox for my EDC in a Custom OWB Leather Pancake Holster by TTGunleather. Like you said, you forget you have it on and it just disappears even with just a lightweight t-shirt. I purchased 3 extended mags, but can shoot just as well without the extension and I take XL gloves. Have not had an issue while shooting, zero failures. Any brand of gun can get can occasional lemon, even Glocks. During the winter when clothing permits, I will switch to my Kimber Ultra CDP II, another exceptional weapon.
With my purchase of the Sig P938[*] I got two mags:
1. The extended 7 round mag (with room for your pinky finger on the grip), and
2. The non-extended 6 round mag like your showing.
[* I ditched the
"nice" grips and put on one piece rubber grips with finger grooves, which made my hold on the gun much more sturdy even with the non-extended mag.]
▪︎ I carry it _cocked & locked_ in the kydex holster the came with the gun. While I have other excellent carry pistols this turns out to be my easiest carry.
▪︎ I've had no failures with the P938 after ~2,000 rounds (but I don't doubt your experience).
I have to agree with many others, here.
Mine runs 100% reliably, all kinds of ammo, including my own cast reloads… rounds, round HPs, SWCs, TCs and my personal favorites.. TC HPs.
To be fair, I did get mine used, so I do not know if there were FTFs early in its life, and out of my own habits, I do polish all feed ramps , on all of my semi’s.
Since purchasing mine, I was lucky to find, and purchase a .22 conversion kit.
Double your pleasure, double your fun !
Also, I do use the extended mag, along with Hogue’s rubber over mold grips, w/ finger grooves. I have large hands, and that combo feels great to me.
Have a black chrome engraved 938 owned it maybe 10 years now. Qualified with it ( Sheriffs qualification course) Never a bobble using the SIG extended magazines 7+1 or with the little 6 round. I am a 1911 fan and use these often. In the HOT summer months I use the SIG P938 more often AND its small enough for use as a second or backup pistol as well. Even so its still a good primary at least for me when I want a small yet powerful little gun.
Mine had the same problem with the six rounder. The extended mag is flawless. Too bad Wilson Combat doesn’t make mags for it.
I have the P938 and had the feeding issue! I also had issues when I would chamber a round then dump my mag to top back off with another round, the top round would hold the mag in and fall out when pulling the mag out! I've tried multiple mags and it does it every time! Sig Sauer sent me a new mag to try to resolve the issue, but after further research I've discovered that's the design of the gun and the mag has a spring issue. Kimber Micro 9 and P938 is basically same magazine but one of the two has a weaker spring, not sure which though!
I wonder if the better grip you get with the extended mag helps focus the recoil to run the slide better? I bought a P938 3 months ago and it has well over 700 rounds through it without a single FTFeed, FTE, or FTFire. 115gr Ammo types all over the place due to range ammo being a different brand every week. I have also run Buffalo bore 115gr +P JHPs, Lawman 147Gr Flat nose FMJs, Sig 124gr Ball Ammo, Reloads, blazer JHPs, 124gr +p, and Sig Elite V-Crown 115gr JHP. Sig Elite V-Crown 115 JHP is my carry ammo. I use the 7 round extended magazines. Never tried a 6 round. Maybe that is the issue for you.
I have the p938 combat version ext mag x5 3 of which I purchased for $44.95 each viridian light laser ECR set up with ECR holster never had a problem and I’ve trained massively with it
I have carried one of these and no trouble with feeding anything been carrying as my summer pistol, I did have trouble with Sig ammo of all things was the only ammo that I have trouble with. I generally carry plus P.
Interesting. Mine is at SIG as we speak...will see what they say about it.
I keep playing with my wife's 238 and it feels so good I'm skeptical of the 9s reliability though but I still want one
Mine shoots well only 2 failures at the first time at the range. I took it home cleaned it and gave it a little extra oil than usual and it hasn't had any problems feeding since then but my pin for the slide can wiggle the smallest amount to cause the slide to catch. I'll need to send it in to sig to replace it
SIG was able to resolve the issue with mine. I am going to work in a follow-up video to cover it. Thanks for watching!
@@TheConcealedCarryChannel thats great to hear, they have excellent customer service. I hope you can feel comfortable now carrying it because so far I am in love with mine. You can't beat that small size with a light weight not to mention the accuracy of a 5 in barrel
I had some failure to feed problems and Sig sent me new magazines saying that the ones that they sent were going to help resolve the problem, and mine came with 1 extended and one short , and Sig replaced both. And yes it will still jam , but less often. top of the line ammo also helped, more powder , more better. I also bent the little spring the first time I took off the slide. you can't just bend it back, you will need it replaced. I let Sig replace it and called it my fault. So be very careful when taking the pin out or in. I wish I had purchased one of the more popular models from the beginning as they don't seem to have any issues. I would say to buy yourself one extended Mag and try it. Good Luck and thanks for a thorough review.
I own the P938 and really surprised you had that issue with your gun I put hundreds of rounds through my gun never an issue with it , mine came with two magazines but I purchased an extended magazine I love this gun
I have two and they both came with the extended mags. As a woman, I don't have large hands but a larger/longer grip would be nice and I would feel more comfortable/confident using it.
I thought this might be a video trashing all P938 pistol, but you are just saying your P938 has reliability issues so you won't carry it. Don't blame you. Two other things that you mention are the lack of finger grooves and the fact it didn't come with an extended mag. That's on you though. You could have did what I did and bought the BRG model P938 that comes with Hogue rubber grips and two extended "pinky" mags. Thankfully my pistol has ran flawlessly for 200 rounds now. Be safe.
Thanks for the info great video!I got the p290rs and had some problems 2.It depends on the gun u got and quality control. I was eyeballing this gun cause its all metal and in Phoenix I want a gun that is all metal instead of a polymer
I had some of those feeding issues with mine at first, mostly on my 7rd mags. Found that I needed to break in the mag springs and it seems to prefer heavier grain ammo. Haven’t had any issues since breaking in the magazines and while running blazer brass 124 or any of the Hornady defensive ammo I’ve put through it.
Yep, this pistol really prefers 124gr ammo. I made a deal with my wife, she wanted my 938 and she knew I was eyeballing the P229. She said she'd get me the 229 for my birthday, if I would give her my 938. After a few minutes of mulling this deal over, I agreed. About 2 days after picking up my new 229, I was really feeling like something was missing...and it was....my 938. Love the 229, great compact to carry, but not practical under some situations. I realized that the 938 filled a particular nitch that my larger pistols really couldn't, and that was flexibility. Because of it's small size, the 938 is very versatile, it can be quickly thrown into a pocket without the need to holster-up. I wear sweat pants quite often and can accommodate the 938 quite easily, something I can not do, even with my compact 229. It's the perfect pistol to carry if you're just running to the gas station, or convenient store, or need to take the dog around the block to do his business, or just knock around the house. Throw it in your pocket and off you go. My new 938 should be arriving any day now lol. This deal really worked out well for me...a very happy birthday.
Have it, Love it. Great video. I am guessing, but the problem may be that your grip may be too light. Experienced shooters will sometimes soften their grip to only what is required to maintain control and accuracy. This pistol wants a firm grip, more than what is required for control and accuracy. Hope that makes sense. This was my experience.
I had one as well and had multiple problems in feeding. Some history on that gun is that Sig used the 238 platform and basically modified some parts so it would shoot 9 mm. From what I remember, the first generation had extractor problems, Sig modified the gun so it would function. Mine had an issue with the main spring housing. The problem was the housing was polomer and the sear spring was metal. The Sear Spring engaged the housing via a small raised button on the polymer housing. After firing x amount of rounds, The polymer button would causie the sear Spring to separate from the housing. The sig talk forum is a great resource for owners of this gun who have had multiple issues. The last I read about and did not happen to me was guide rods separating from that bass that you referred to as having a U-shaped notch. From the postings on that forum people were saying that the guide rod and the base were two pieces that were threaded. The rod would back itself out and actually would project out from the gun while people were shooting at the range. I have since sold the gun and got myself a P2 38 which I love and have had no issues with all bed it is a step down in ammo because it fires 380 and 9 mm.
I have had mine for almost 10 years. I have the night version that came with the night sights and the rubber grips. Mine also had one seven round magazine. I carry it every day since I have owned it and it goes bang every time I pull the trigger. I own everything from an,NAA .22 to a SW 460. With all my choices, I still pick up my 938. Mine also had a factory holster.
I have the P938 and had the same exact experience as you, it would fail to feed every other mag on any kind of hollow point self defense ammo. Sent it in to Sig twice and they claim they filed down the feed lip on the barrel to make it less aggressive of an angle and I still have the same exact issue. Have probably put a few hundred rounds of range ammo through it no problem but as soon as I put in any hollow point it has the issue. I've had enough and going to trade it in for a Kimber Micro 9.
Had the same problem but it was caused by the way i held the gun. My grip would sometime slightly depress the mag release, with my large hands my small finger was under the mag holding it in. This allowed the mag drop just enough to cause a failure to feed. My grip would allow the mag to relock back in position which made me think it was a problem with the gun.
Mine came with 2 magazines one with the extended grip I did have an issue with fail to feeds. However, I noticed that I needed a good grip which you can't get without the extended magazine. It's your grip that is the problem not the gun. The slide has to retract far enough to allow for the new cartridge to pop up out of the mag. So if you have a sloppy grip the there is no resistance on the gun. Your hand flexes and moves back on you and will not allow the slide to move to the rear far enough to accurately move a new cartridge into the chamber. My recommendation is to buy a new magazine with the extension on it. You do have strong fingers but I assume that the gun barrel flips up when firing reducing your grip. Once I learned how to grip the gun all feeding issues ceased. I own a bunch of Sigs as well.
The only issues I had with my p938 was the two piece guild rod comes apart after 3 or 4 mags of shooting then you have to disassemble the gun and re-tighten it…and the grip screws constantly came out…no Loctite of any type or color available at the time helped at all…having to always tighten the screws I stripped a screw hole sent it back to sig and they did their thing and use the Loctite they had and it still happened so I got rid of it…other than that it’s a great shooting gun…mine ate everything I put in it…I had the extreme model 2014.
There has to be something goofy with the feed ramp geometry, mag follower/lips, mag spring tension or whatnot when scaling the 1911 action down to this size. Mine doesn't have failure to feed, but about once every couple magazines (2-3 times per box of ammo or so) it'll double eject. Seems that friction between cases in the magazine is enough that when feeding a round the preceding round from the magazine is partially pulled away from the magazine lips. Every so often the following round is stripped just enough that the only thing keeping it in the magazine is the pressure of the slide resting on top of it; once the slide moves back to eject the spent round, the partially stripped round is sent flying as well from the mag spring tension pushing up on it. It's even happened during a CCW live fire qualification. Instructor hands me 6 rounds, load six into the magazine, 5 bangs and a click, check chamber and there's nothing there; a few seconds searching on the ground and there's a live round just sitting there.
It's something I've noticed also when topping off my magazine. After chambering a round, removing the magazine to top it off I'll find that the top round has been partially stripped/pushed forward and occasionally removing the magazine will strip this top round from the magazine and it'll fall out of the mag well when the magazine is removed.
The 938 Legion model will solve all your problems. Mine came with (3) 7 round mags. The grip is slightly longer. I carry mine 365.
So far I haven't had any issues with mine. However I did have the Kimber Micro 9 and straight out of the box it failed every 3rd or 4th round. The take down pin would walk out and cause the slide to not cycle. Very disappointing for a $900 pistol. So I traded it for the P938. I carry the Sig or my Taurus GX4 daily no issues with either pistol.
I have a P938 and a P365. I sometimes have failure to feed issues with the P938, but never with the P365. The P365 has a MUCH stronger recoil spring. The P938 has the lightest-strength recoil spring I have ever felt. I also have a tendency to limp-wrist when I shoot (working on that). The lighter spring, coupled with a weak grip, are the reasons for failure to feed. I am chalking it up to 'user error'. I love the gun because it is so small (even smaller than the P365) and I have the new SAS version (slips right into/out of my pocket), but until I train to have a few more range sessions to work on strengthening my grip, I will keep carrying the P365.
Interesting observation. The P938 is on the way back to me as we speak and I’ll get it back to the range for a better result, hopefully. Thanks for watching!
I WISH I could buy a P938. It's what I wanted to buy. Got the P238 instead. With plans to carry it in non-Bear Country as a lil backup pistol for when I've got a deer on the ground, and my hands are bloodied up. So before using it in that capacity I ran all the various lead-free all copper bullets I could find thru it. Have NEVER had a FTE/FTF, EVER. I think I've got about maybe 7 or 800 rds thru it by now. Definitely get yourself the 7rd mags w the pinky extension. Stunned by the accuracy of this little pistol... once YOU master your own body mechanics in terms of shooting a small pistol. Can even keep it in the black of an 8" target @ 25yds. My initial goal was as a pistol for my wife to carry when, for her work, she'd have to travel to satellite offices to handle "employee issues" such as terminations. That P238 was by a noticeable degree, the easiest to rack slide out of any of the .380's I'd tested at the LGS. And the sights!! LOVE THEM!! Big chunky 3-Dot combat night sights that I can even see without my glasses on! So... as soon as the courts can finally B-slap the CA legislature to abolish the dumb Handgun Safety Roster BS.. I'm hoping to get a 938. EDIT: one thing I did right off the bat was opt for an aftermarket guide-rode that has a captured spring to it. Definitely recommend that upgrade as it makes disassembly a breeze.
@TheGDizzo, Where may I ask did you get the captured spring guide rod?
Mine came with 1 6 round and 1 seven round , the legion model comes with three 7 round mags , so it depends what model you get
Mine is the Rosewood model, just as reviewed, and it also came with one 6rd and one 7rd. Unscrupulous dealers will remove mags and sell them separately. I still see the 7-rounders going for as much as $50.
Did you ever get your feed issue fixed? I have a P238 (380ACP version) and experienced some feeding issues. I removed the extractor on the next cleaning session, cleaned all of it up thoroughly, and that fixed it.
Bought this for my wife yesterday. Bought it new from the gun store for $650. Came with one 7 round mag. I bought an extra mag while I was there. We first rented a few guns for her to try. I carry an HK p2000 and that was way to big for her. We rented the sig 365, sig p938, S&W shield and one J frame for fun. She settled on the 938. She loved it! Shooting all those guns made me realize the sig 938 had the least amount of snap when shooting. It came down between the 365 and the 938 and the 938 was just a bit more smooth. My wife is a 1911 shooter . She seems to do excellent when shooting one so the 938 has very similar 1911 features which made it very attractive to shoot. Great gun.
I do the spring by pointing the assembly downwind/downrange and inserting it into its place with my thumb. Way more control this way!
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