What's your favorite lens solution? I have tried a 35mm prime equivalent on a m43 on a trip to New Orleans, travelled to China with 16-35, 24-70, 70-200 (back breaker) and looking back I regretting not having a 24-105. Not anymore, I'm keeping this one finally.
I'm still new to photography, but would you mind doing a video on prime vs kit lenses? Specifically what makes a prime 50mm lens different from a 24-105mm shot at 50mm. Thanks in advance! Hope you keep doing more content like this :)
@@theroffness Prime lense are simpler in terms of optical constraints for manufacturers. That means that for a similar size/weigth they can build a lense that will have a larger maximal aperture. That large aperture (ex. F2.8, F1.8 or F1.4) gives the option to gather a lot more light without the need of doing long exposures that requires a tripod and will be very useful for low light photography. But also, usually the sharpness of prime lenses is better. This is less obvious for high grade lens like the canon L series (red ring). However, there are some cons of using a prime lens : you have one fixed focal length so you cannot zoom in or out to incorporate or not objects in your composition, you have to walk to change your perspective and frame your subject as you want. Sometimes you just cannot do that because your subject is too big and you cannot step back or maybe your subject is too far away. So if you have multiple prime lense you can get over that issue by switching lenses, but you may miss the action doing so. Both the zooms and the primes are great, but your use will determine which is better for you. Personally I like to take a versatile zoom (24-105) when I travel and use a prime lense if I'm going to do street photos at night. Also, prime lenses can be very small sometimes, like the 40mm F2.8 pancake which is a great lens which is very small/discrete/light and produces very good pictures.
Same experience. I used to lug around my 5D IV, EF 24-70 2.8, EF 70-200 2.8 and EF 50 1.4. Got the EOS R, bought the RF 24-105 4 as a travel/hiking lens and boy is this lens amazing. Took it on my Japan trip and was happy with it 98% of the time and just missed something 2% of the time. IS compensated nicely for the loss of the 2.8 aperture. The 1.6 crop mode can help with reach and focusing/framing objects that are further out. Considering I lost about 2kg of gear weight, which is more than half of what I used to carry around it's just amazing.
Thercon Jair thanks for watching and topping by. Nailed it. Every bit of shaving in weight helps soo soo much and you can get back into enjoy the experience of traveling, family and vacationing again. Oh yea the IS at 5 stops can definitely help and eliminate that tripod sometimes. Enjoy man.
I used to be a 'lens snob' and didn't want to own anything slower than f/2.8 so I viewed the 24-105mm f/4L as an 'amateur lens'. However, when shooting in studio situations I'm usually at f/11 or higher, so this would be a great lens for that. In fact it happens to be one of Lindsay Adler's favorite studio lenses too. Gotta get a few other lenses first, but this lens has recently been added to my RF lens wishlist.
I photograph in restaurants with a lot of low light. Would you recommend using this lens for that? I’m looking for a not too expensive lens, as I just started. But I want lens that does well in a low light environment and gets the background a bit blurry from the subject. Thanks in advance!
Low light and F4 don't blend well and it really depends on the subject at hand. You say restaurants, are these staged photos where you can add ambient light, quick snaps. For commercial work, I would say yes and you would add lights as needed.
Wow! Thank you. I see between EF 24-105 II , EF 24-70 II for 6D and RF 24-105 if I will buy EOS R. Difficult choice. Now have 35/50/100 simple fix lenses. If I choose F4 lens I need fix-lens. 35 1.4 or 50 1.2. My 35/2/IS realy works at 2.8. Prime lens must work at open appeture. If I Choose 24-70 II no more lense i will need besides 100/2. I'm shooting with studio light and reportage in different terms. Fixed lens with normal proportions of human body (35/50) I need for interieor studios with neuteral light and close locations. Your expirience is interesting 🙏🏻
Hey Rickey you know I've been looking at this 24-105 for the longest time and yes I do plan on getting this in my bag as soon as possible. Thank you for reviewing this particular lens and I'm a new comer to your channel and so far man so Good..
Oh the yes the lens is amazing and a keeper this time around for me personally. You won’t regret as your all around lens that can do it all. Not too special in any way but it can do it all in most scenarios.
Awesome video man! I have been debating pulling the trigger on the EOS-R kit with this lens. I think you've talked me into it! I am going to Japan next summer and this will be perfect.
You won’t regret it. I have been holding back using all the generations of the 24-105 and finally started using this one and it’s my go to. Especially now with the EOS R being lighter, smaller it’s a great combo for travel. Enjoy the tool. Thanks for landing on the video.
Went to Japan for two weeks in January with this exact combo, was super happy. (If you want to see some pictures feel free to visit my instagram profile @kurz_photo. All the Japan photos that I posted from January forward were taken with this lens. Sorry, not trying to cheaply plug but to be helpful of what to expect.)
Thanks from Germany. After I see your video i think i will keep the rf24-105 f/4. I think about change to rf 24-70 F/2.8. But Price is double and weight is more. Instead i will look for the RF 85mm f/2.
If you travel, family events I’d rather have a lighter setup and enjoy the time vs carrying a brick. Lol. Canon will come out with consumer f1.4 lenses soon enough now that R5/R6 are in the market
How is the dust sealing on this particular RF lens? I've heard photographers having a nightmare with Tamron and Sigma's current 24-70 due to dust getting sucked in to the lens due to poor sealing on the extending lens barrel. To your knowledge, does the RF F4 24-105mm L have a filter between the extending barrel and the main barrel to prevent dust from getting sucked into the lens? Or in your extensive use of the lens, have you detected any issues with dust [long term use]?
Normal canon seals. All lenses eventually gathers dust particles even canon weather sealed. It happens. It does have an extended barrel so there is that change of dust getting in from there but again normal. I have never had anything crazy gather inside.
i make music video, mostly outside. I like blurry background and i am mostly 2-4 m (like portrait) away from the camera. Witch RF lens would you recommend for this?
Hey ricky im going round in circles. I have the RP and Money for one budget RF lense. I am not massively into bokeh. But am into image quality plus im a hybrid shooter. This one lense will have to do me for everything, portrait, landscape, family, video, low light for a year or so before ill likely get my next lense. RF 35mm RF 24-105 f4-7.1
If you can reach and funds allow, definitely go 24-105 f4 as the one lens solution. It’s be the most versatile lens for a very, very long time if not forever.
@@RickyCheung thank you. I was going to get the 35m. First and then some kind of zoom. The f4 24 105 is very big and bulky. For everyday use i was thinking Rather i could get the 35mm and the budget 24 105 for the same price
Compared this lens there is nothing in the M50 line up that can compete. I don’t own the m50 but if I did I would get an EF adapter and pick up an EF 24-105 but it is cropped. Thanks for watching. Good luck.
hi Ricky! Just subscribed. I bought an R recently and have been using the adapted EF version II of this lens. Going to trade it in with some other gear and get this. Like the compactness of this vs the EF with adapter.
Awesome. Yes I agree with the adapter is great alternative but does add bulk and makes any EF glass front heavy on r R. The only glass I use the adapter with are my primes which I think I will be keeping for now. :). The RF 24-105 is a nice little package along with the R.
I no longer have a 24-70 to compared the 24-105 f4. It's a focal length I rarely use professionally anymore and have removed it from my load out. However the 28-70 f2 is one that peaks my interest. My EF 24-70 f2.8 II has always been soft, RF lens are noticeable sharper in comparison.
charles moor I don’t know about an RF 85mm 1.8 but there is a 85mm f2 coming out l. Will have to wait and see. If you are talking about the RF 1.2 ver. yes they are better but at what cost, only you can be the judge.
Absolutely agree. I did the same for soo many years but when I’m shooting for me I don’t necessarily NEED primes. I love the flexibility, it’s awesome.
Depending on what you are shooting, if you need the best possible low light, pick one is the 2.8s. The 24-105 f4 is great for a good app around lens even for video.
Can i use it professionally for wedding portrait also in wedding low light portraits?? Note . I am now using 85mm f1.8 and 50mm 1.8 for my work .. if i get ill sell them
Thanks for your comment. I don't recommend the 24-105 F4 for weddings in low-light. Everyone has opinions on what LOW LIGHT is. As a wedding photographer for 11+ years when you are stuck in a church indoors and the priest says no flash you'll wish you had something a lot faster than f4. I just posted a new video up discussing this, check it out. I would get a 24 - 35mm range lens and you'll be set unless you have a big church to work with.
I don’t believe there is an adapter for RF lenses to other camera systems yet or in the near future, there are limitations on the RF Mount it has more contact points.
Just ordered the Canon 6DMK2 with the 24mm-105mm F4. Is there any point of me keeping my 50mm f1.4 and 85mm f1.8? Just wondering if should just go all in on the L-Series haha. Thanks for the video.
I use this lens for mostly personal and family travels which I don’t post here on YT. As a professional i don’t pixel peep all that often or zoom 1000%, plenty of channels are into that if you need that info. For its use usability, handling, and a clear picture for both photo and video that’s my focus, how does the lens work and that it works very very well. I will keep you in mind. Thanks.
What's your favorite lens solution? I have tried a 35mm prime equivalent on a m43 on a trip to New Orleans, travelled to China with 16-35, 24-70, 70-200 (back breaker) and looking back I regretting not having a 24-105. Not anymore, I'm keeping this one finally.
I'm still new to photography, but would you mind doing a video on prime vs kit lenses? Specifically what makes a prime 50mm lens different from a 24-105mm shot at 50mm. Thanks in advance! Hope you keep doing more content like this :)
@@theroffness Prime lense are simpler in terms of optical constraints for manufacturers. That means that for a similar size/weigth they can build a lense that will have a larger maximal aperture. That large aperture (ex. F2.8, F1.8 or F1.4) gives the option to gather a lot more light without the need of doing long exposures that requires a tripod and will be very useful for low light photography. But also, usually the sharpness of prime lenses is better. This is less obvious for high grade lens like the canon L series (red ring). However, there are some cons of using a prime lens : you have one fixed focal length so you cannot zoom in or out to incorporate or not objects in your composition, you have to walk to change your perspective and frame your subject as you want. Sometimes you just cannot do that because your subject is too big and you cannot step back or maybe your subject is too far away. So if you have multiple prime lense you can get over that issue by switching lenses, but you may miss the action doing so. Both the zooms and the primes are great, but your use will determine which is better for you. Personally I like to take a versatile zoom (24-105) when I travel and use a prime lense if I'm going to do street photos at night. Also, prime lenses can be very small sometimes, like the 40mm F2.8 pancake which is a great lens which is very small/discrete/light and produces very good pictures.
@@MrOvipare thanks for commenting on this one. This is on point! 👍.
You mean you keep th 35?
@@TimHuhtala a dream lens for sure :)
Same experience. I used to lug around my 5D IV, EF 24-70 2.8, EF 70-200 2.8 and EF 50 1.4. Got the EOS R, bought the RF 24-105 4 as a travel/hiking lens and boy is this lens amazing. Took it on my Japan trip and was happy with it 98% of the time and just missed something 2% of the time. IS compensated nicely for the loss of the 2.8 aperture. The 1.6 crop mode can help with reach and focusing/framing objects that are further out. Considering I lost about 2kg of gear weight, which is more than half of what I used to carry around it's just amazing.
Thercon Jair thanks for watching and topping by. Nailed it. Every bit of shaving in weight helps soo soo much and you can get back into enjoy the experience of traveling, family and vacationing again. Oh yea the IS at 5 stops can definitely help and eliminate that tripod sometimes. Enjoy man.
I used to be a 'lens snob' and didn't want to own anything slower than f/2.8 so I viewed the 24-105mm f/4L as an 'amateur lens'.
However, when shooting in studio situations I'm usually at f/11 or higher, so this would be a great lens for that. In fact it happens to be one of Lindsay Adler's favorite studio lenses too.
Gotta get a few other lenses first, but this lens has recently been added to my RF lens wishlist.
It is also my studio lens and gimbal beast solution. I totally get it, I’m a f1.2 lover. :)
I photograph in restaurants with a lot of low light. Would you recommend using this lens for that? I’m looking for a not too expensive lens, as I just started. But I want lens that does well in a low light environment and gets the background a bit blurry from the subject. Thanks in advance!
Low light and F4 don't blend well and it really depends on the subject at hand. You say restaurants, are these staged photos where you can add ambient light, quick snaps. For commercial work, I would say yes and you would add lights as needed.
Wow! Thank you. I see between EF 24-105 II , EF 24-70 II for 6D and RF 24-105 if I will buy EOS R. Difficult choice. Now have 35/50/100 simple fix lenses.
If I choose F4 lens I need fix-lens. 35 1.4 or 50 1.2. My 35/2/IS realy works at 2.8. Prime lens must work at open appeture.
If I Choose 24-70 II no more lense i will need besides 100/2.
I'm shooting with studio light and reportage in different terms. Fixed lens with normal proportions of human body (35/50) I need for interieor studios with neuteral light and close locations.
Your expirience is interesting 🙏🏻
My thoughts, I might go EOS R with 24-105 and a 50mm prime.
Hey Rickey you know I've been looking at this 24-105 for the longest time and yes I do plan on getting this in my bag as soon as possible. Thank you for reviewing this particular lens and I'm a new comer to your channel and so far man so Good..
🙏 really appreciate the community and all the feedback. It keeps me going. New vids coming soon.
Oh the yes the lens is amazing and a keeper this time around for me personally. You won’t regret as your all around lens that can do it all. Not too special in any way but it can do it all in most scenarios.
Thank you for excellent review👍🙏
I buy this lens recently. What I had time to test it I think it will make me happy. I use it on EOS RP.
Its a great lens
Awesome video man! I have been debating pulling the trigger on the EOS-R kit with this lens. I think you've talked me into it! I am going to Japan next summer and this will be perfect.
You won’t regret it. I have been holding back using all the generations of the 24-105 and finally started using this one and it’s my go to. Especially now with the EOS R being lighter, smaller it’s a great combo for travel. Enjoy the tool. Thanks for landing on the video.
Went to Japan for two weeks in January with this exact combo, was super happy.
(If you want to see some pictures feel free to visit my instagram profile @kurz_photo. All the Japan photos that I posted from January forward were taken with this lens. Sorry, not trying to cheaply plug but to be helpful of what to expect.)
Thanks from Germany. After I see your video i think i will keep the rf24-105 f/4. I think about change to rf 24-70 F/2.8. But Price is double and weight is more. Instead i will look for the RF 85mm f/2.
If you travel, family events I’d rather have a lighter setup and enjoy the time vs carrying a brick. Lol. Canon will come out with consumer f1.4 lenses soon enough now that R5/R6 are in the market
im moving ; into the Mirrorless system and needed a first lens to buy for the R6. this is going to be it.
It really is the best all around travel do it all lens unless you need 2.8. Go for it.
How is the dust sealing on this particular RF lens? I've heard photographers having a nightmare with Tamron and Sigma's current 24-70 due to dust getting sucked in to the lens due to poor sealing on the extending lens barrel. To your knowledge, does the RF F4 24-105mm L have a filter between the extending barrel and the main barrel to prevent dust from getting sucked into the lens? Or in your extensive use of the lens, have you detected any issues with dust [long term use]?
Normal canon seals. All lenses eventually gathers dust particles even canon weather sealed. It happens. It does have an extended barrel so there is that change of dust getting in from there but again normal. I have never had anything crazy gather inside.
i make music video, mostly outside. I like blurry background and i am mostly 2-4 m (like portrait) away from the camera. Witch RF lens would you recommend for this?
I think a RF 35mm 1.8 might fit the bill or a 50mm 1.2 if you have the funds. If you want that extra blur for your videos. You'll need that ND though.
Hey ricky im going round in circles.
I have the RP and Money for one budget RF lense.
I am not massively into bokeh. But am into image quality plus im a hybrid shooter.
This one lense will have to do me for everything, portrait, landscape, family, video, low light for a year or so before ill likely get my next lense.
RF 35mm
RF 24-105 f4-7.1
If you can reach and funds allow, definitely go 24-105 f4 as the one lens solution. It’s be the most versatile lens for a very, very long time if not forever.
@@RickyCheung thank you. I was going to get the 35m. First and then some kind of zoom.
The f4 24 105 is very big and bulky. For everyday use i was thinking
Rather i could get the 35mm and the budget 24 105 for the same price
Hello, and Thank You for what you do! Could You suggest 24-105 to mirorless Canon M50 ?
Compared this lens there is nothing in the M50 line up that can compete. I don’t own the m50 but if I did I would get an EF adapter and pick up an EF 24-105 but it is cropped. Thanks for watching. Good luck.
Get a viltrox speedbooster and your m50 will be closer to a full frame camera . And you can adapt ef lenses
That’s a good route too if you want to use boosters. Thanks for this.
hi Ricky! Just subscribed. I bought an R recently and have been using the adapted EF version II of this lens. Going to trade it in with some other gear and get this. Like the compactness of this vs the EF with adapter.
Awesome. Yes I agree with the adapter is great alternative but does add bulk and makes any EF glass front heavy on r R. The only glass I use the adapter with are my primes which I think I will be keeping for now. :). The RF 24-105 is a nice little package along with the R.
Can you compare 24 70 vs 24 105 image quality examples pixel peeping and vignette etc
I no longer have a 24-70 to compared the 24-105 f4. It's a focal length I rarely use professionally anymore and have removed it from my load out. However the 28-70 f2 is one that peaks my interest. My EF 24-70 f2.8 II has always been soft, RF lens are noticeable sharper in comparison.
@@RickyCheung you think the new rf 85 will be much better than the ef 85 1
8.
charles moor I don’t know about an RF 85mm 1.8 but there is a 85mm f2 coming out l. Will have to wait and see. If you are talking about the RF 1.2 ver. yes they are better but at what cost, only you can be the judge.
love my prime lenses however, if I'm going out and just want to shoot anything and everything I take this lens.
Absolutely agree. I did the same for soo many years but when I’m shooting for me I don’t necessarily NEED primes. I love the flexibility, it’s awesome.
witch is the best rf allrounder lens for the r6 for video?
Depending on what you are shooting, if you need the best possible low light, pick one is the 2.8s. The 24-105 f4 is great for a good app around lens even for video.
Can i use it professionally for wedding portrait also in wedding low light portraits??
Note . I am now using 85mm f1.8 and 50mm 1.8 for my work .. if i get ill sell them
Thanks for your comment. I don't recommend the 24-105 F4 for weddings in low-light. Everyone has opinions on what LOW LIGHT is. As a wedding photographer for 11+ years when you are stuck in a church indoors and the priest says no flash you'll wish you had something a lot faster than f4. I just posted a new video up discussing this, check it out.
I would get a 24 - 35mm range lens and you'll be set unless you have a big church to work with.
@@RickyCheung i understand thank you.. ill check video out also
love this lens.
can you use this lens on a Sony A7S with some sort of adapter?
I don’t believe there is an adapter for RF lenses to other camera systems yet or in the near future, there are limitations on the RF Mount it has more contact points.
what is min shatter speed to go with image stabilization and get sharp image ??
I have successfully gone down to 1sec with 24-105 @ 105 with sharp results.
@@RickyCheung wow
Just ordered the Canon 6DMK2 with the 24mm-105mm F4. Is there any point of me keeping my 50mm f1.4 and 85mm f1.8? Just wondering if should just go all in on the L-Series haha. Thanks for the video.
The EF 50mm 1.4 and 85mm 1.8 lenses are great pieces of kit. I have owned both in the past and it really depends on what your shoot most.
@@RickyCheung Noted. Thanks for the quick response!
Gonna get this lens with the upcoming EOS R6! I just want them to release the R5 and 6 already :D
The R6 will probably come bundles with the 24-105 as well so if you can wait for both that’s an option too.
Same
should have more subs
Really appreciate it. Thank you!!!
Some examples would have been nice.
Not too much vacationing or travel lately only personal family stuff which I don’t post publicly all too much but will do for more pro work and glass.
That's a big title....
I bet my Rf 70-200 f2.8 feels differently.
Love my 70-200 but definitely not general purpose versatility.
cant really hear your voice, maybe lower the music later :(? Nice review!
Interesting. I will check on that. Thanks for checkin' out and feedback.
📸 I like 🇨🇳 make a great picture and Great Wall !!!
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It sounds like you haven't even use this lens so how can you give a review on it ? maybe you should show some examples of your comparison images.
I use this lens for mostly personal and family travels which I don’t post here on YT. As a professional i don’t pixel peep all that often or zoom 1000%, plenty of channels are into that if you need that info. For its use usability, handling, and a clear picture for both photo and video that’s my focus, how does the lens work and that it works very very well. I will keep you in mind. Thanks.
WIsh there were more example pics and less armchair lecture. This is UA-cam not podcast !
2,5 minut you talk about your story
Ok. Not sure if that’s a positive or negative statement but I will do better next time either way. Thanks for the feedback.