Skyrim Battles - Greybeards vs. Blades, Dragon Priest, Alduin, and more
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- Опубліковано 21 лис 2024
- There are different versions of Alduin in the game. The one in this video is the version you fight during the main storyline in Sovngarde.
The one you see in the past during Alduin's Bane has 6905 health, but his damage output is only a fraction of the one in Sovngarde, so I chose the latter for the fights.
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The Ebony Warrior is the representation of our first time trying to fight the Graybeards just to see what happend
That's surprisingly accurate! 🤣
I HATE that endless loop of being shouted at, frozen , and punched with no chance
This is what should have happened once you told the greybeards that the blades wanted parthenax dead
I honestly would have enjoyed that 😂
100%
Karstaag won with ease despite fire breath disabling his regen. Just proves being resistant to staggers and ragdoll from shouts makes all the difference
I 100% agree!
Karstaag is amazing ,the power of cold and ice remains supreme
@@LICENFIREFEARagreed before I do the dragon born dc kill Alduin and fight the ebony warrior I get karstagg cuz he’s a good ass tank
And also having massive health pool
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I instakilled him
First time I killed him, I just used a flame enchanted dragon bone axe
Imagine how powerful greybeards could be if they had mastery of magic too.
Virtually no cooldown on their shouts and spamming fireballs until they run out of magicka.
You're right! 😂 They would be really dangerous 😆
By lore they dont even need that, whisper could one-shot ya
@@captainflowers748Tbf in lore miraak and the last dragonborn erase them with a whisper, and alduin laughs at them all
if they work with a strategy where they don't spam and plan to stagger their enemy together they will be one of the hardest to beat
@lukmanalghdamsi3189 they always stay out in the open
Watching people get launched by giants never gets old lol
So true! 😆😆
sent the corpse back to high hrothgar
I love the way they tag teamed the Ebony Warrior.
Teamwork at its finest!
@@lSlendermaster Sky above, voice within.
I once tried to fight the greybeards, they just stunlocked me with iceform and killed me, good times
Same! 🤣
We have all been there😂
@@hege947 It's just a mandatory part of your Skyrim experience. Same with giants sending you to the moon 😂
@@lSlendermaster exactly😂😂♥️
A challenge fit for immortal character
I just feel so bad for the fact that the Ebony Warrior loses his fight the same way he would against Karstaag which is getting stunlocked to death. Shouts take so long for players to use and the Greybeards spam them, like it is nothing. The Greybeards also have to spam one of the most damaging ones (the fire breath shout) and they also do not bother bringing a physical weapon to their fights. It was never assumed that the player would fight against them or the Greybeards would fight against other enemies. Arngeir was therfore programmed to be the highest levelled NPC of the entire game (with a level cap) before Miraak was introduced. If a player would fight against the entire group of Greybeards the result would be the same as the result against the Ebony Warrior. Being immune against staggering is a requirement against a group of enemies that do nothing but staggering you.
Yeah, I wasn't even sure if I should include the Ebony Warrior round into the final video, since I'm not a fan of stagger spam. But I found it entertaining to watch anyway. 🤷 Without that, he would have destroyed the Greybeards in no time, similarly to how Karstaag did.
That's one of the few advantages of Heavy Armor over Light Armor. Combined with Party Snacks meditation, you can reduce ragdoll effects by 75%
I remove my cool down and destroy them in evil playthroughs. Lore accurate dovakin playthroughs are fun!
@Aryan_H1 Fortify Restoration affects amulets/blessings of Talos just fyi.
*sends Borri back to High Hrothgar (Team Rocket Style)
So THIS is where Team Rocket's lines originate 😆😆
The gray beards are the epitome of what all nords aspire to be. A man that literally beats his foes to death, be they man or dragon with his own bear hands.
That's surprisingly deep 😂
I like how while Arengir is shouting at them, he has his fists up like he’s ready to square up 😂
So much for the peaceful Greybeards! 😂
@@lSlendermaster and they said they’re not warriors
@@Ertto54 Great power, but also great minds to not use them for unnecessary violence 😎
Keep in mind these are the more peaceful users of the Voice, imagine what a Tongue of the First Era would be capable of
Great video!
True, would be interesting if we could see that!
Thanks! 😁
(Greybeard gesture)
SKY ABOVE, VOICE WITHIN.
"Dovahkiin."
I love how inbetween the powerful shouts he puts up his fits and gets a couple punches off 😂
Every bit counts, right? 😂
Graybeards: “Only you can defeat the World-Eater, Alduin.”
Dragonborn: “WELL IF YOU’D HELP ME!!!!”
Truuue 😂
This video is exactly what I need right now. You always upload at the best times. I love your content so much dude. You should continue using enemies from mods, it’ll be really exciting to watch and there’s a ton of mods to chose from!
Thank you so much for the compliment!! 😄I'm glad you're enjoying the content! My next video is actually going to be another modded one, so I hope you'll like that as well. 😎Thanks again!
1:02- I love how Esbern was shooting fire bolts at Argenir and Argenir then obliterated him with the Firebreath shout.
It’s like he swallowed Esbern’s flames and then spat them back in his face.
"I'll show you what some real fire looks like!"
Glad they got the dub against EW, without a wide space he cant beat them. Surprised Arngeir lost to Dragon Priest though, and Alduin was unlucky by not using his meteor shower earlier.
Being able to back up was a big advantage for the Greybeards, for sure! Arngeir was a bit of a disadvantage against the Dragon Priest; less health, no magic resistance, and his shout having a short but crucial cooldown. Alduin definitely could have won if he had used his shout earlier and/or more often. I did a bunch of test battles, and for some reason, he only rarely used it against the Greybeards. This was one of the few recordings where he did at all 🤷
Fantastisch. Absolut fantastisch. The fight against the Ebony Warrior was a real roller-coaster ride. I’d thought he’d wipe them all out with ease, but man, I was wrong. The way it was an uphill battle for the Greybeards, chipping away slowly at the Ebony Warrior added a lot of tension to it.
On another note, I think the Greybeards should have some healing spell, even mediocre one. Their health doesn’t really make up for the damage they take from stronger enemies.
Danke sehr! 😁 The Ebony Warrior battle was pretty one-sided because of the constant stagger, which I'm not a big fan of. But the whole thing was still pretty fun to watch, so I included it into the video.
Fair point. 🤔 They're very prone to any attacks. On the other hand, I don't think they're really supposed to fight in the game anyway. Unless the player attacks them, but then they'll keep you incapacitated with Ice Form. 😂
@@lSlendermaster
Definitely right to include it otherwise the comment section would be spammed up asking why he wasn't there!😅
@@ZIGZAG12345 Oh yeah, definitely! 😂 He'll be in several of my upcoming videos too! 😎
The Blades one is so funny to me. "Who's afraid of their power now, huh?"
They're just pathetic, really 😂
@@lSlendermaster Arngeir may not fear his own powers, but he sure taught them to
@@whensomethingcriesagain You're 100% right!
Master Einarth just got decapited by Ebony Warrior 💀😭
After that, Einarth grabbed a horse and is now riding around Hamvir's Rest every night 😝
7:33 Greybeard Space Program
On the way to Starfield 😆
Alcuin must be hearing a lot of bad words from those greybeards.
He's getting bullied really hard 😐
I wish you could become a greybeard and wear their robes in the game that wolluld be dope
Imagine a Greybeard build with shouts every 5 seconds 🤔
i love when the greybeards punch. like shout? nah how bout these hands
A NEW HAND TOUCHES... oh sorry, I got flashbacks from your profile picture. 😆
Yeah, it's always weird when any mages do that too 😂
Delphine lol.
Love the fact that her programming sticks to her character here by immediately turning her back to Arngeir and starts trying to walk away from him as the Greybeard comes up to do his first Shout.
Total cold shoulder fail right there. 😆
Yup, the AI is the biggest problem with a lot of NPCs 😂
why so many dislikes? this is good, i enjoy these battles!
I assume bots, because UA-cam Studio shows me completely different numbers, and I got almost only positive comments. And thanks, I'm glad to hear that! 😁
Sky above, voice within
"Listen to the Voice that Kynareth has placed within you, and your path will be clear."
@@lSlendermaster Let the Way of the Voice be your guide, and the path of wisdom will be clear to you. Breath and focus, Dragonborn. Your future lies before you
@@Mr_Jedsel There is nothing else but philosophy to a dovah. Lok, Thu'um.
@@lSlendermaster Fin Dov mindok pah do Vus vonun suleyk. Fin Dov los nau inhus do laas.
@@Mr_Jedsel Dov wahlaan fah rel. Zin krif horvut se suleyk.
Maaaan Karstaag sent poor Borri flying
Fast-travelling back to High Hrothgar 😂 😂
The first battle is so satisfying to watch
Arngeir destroyed Delphine with almost every shout he has! 😆
That disarm was so clean lol, gave her no chance.
@@AuXiiLia I love how Arngeir just mocked her with a variety of shouts! 😂
Kaarstag is a Giant with time combat damage & 4000 HP. Too OP without the right Team Comp.
Karstaag is completely OP indeed!
Esberrrrrrrrrrnnnnnn 😵. NO REMORSE.
He did pretty well, at least 😂
First time I've ever seen a Graybeard beheaded😂
The Ebony Warrior can be scary 😂
Will admit, Esbern looked as if he could hold his own against the Greybeards
His fireballs are okay, but he's not very good overall 😅
someone dislike botted this video? I'm bingeing them keep up the good work
Apparently, yeah. 🤷 UA-cam Studio shows me different numbers. Thanks, I'm always happy to hear that! 😄
I thought the Ebony Warrior would mop the Floor with the Oldtimers but they reall did well by stunlocking him.... i'm impressed.
Yeah, ragdolling him is very efficient! 😆
I never expected the Greybeards to whoop the Ebony Warrior. Gj friend.
To be fair, the stagger spam what was made them win. But they still got him down faster than I expected 😄
i wonder what the bandit camps/towns around this arena are thinking, hearing all this shouting
"Must have been the wind" 😆
Wow, they completely roasted the ebony warrior, The greybeards are definitely not to be messed with as a group lol, although if the EW was immune to stagger he would stand a far better chance
Indeed, the Ebony Warrior only lost because of the constant stagger! I wasn't planning on putting that round into the public episode, but it was pretty entertaining to watch, so I did it anyway 😂
Karstaag send back Master borri to the time when alduin first banished with the elder scroll 💀
A new kind of fast travel! 🤣
3:56 the graybeards could’ve killed Alduin themselves. Who needs a dragonborn?
The Skyrim plot 😝
Breaking news! Old men scream at hobo man and breathe loudly on innkeeper!
One of the funniest comments I've read so far, thanks for the laugh 😂
Love this video ❤❤❤ and i love skirim so much
Awesome! 😁
I love your content !!!!!
Thank you!! 😁
Delphine got wrecked by point blank yol tor shul
Arngeir took "Kill it with fire" literally 😂
what the fuck did the greybeards need me for
To bring them Klimmek's supplies 🤔
Ebony Warrior is a monster they gotta jump him to win lol
Skyrim wasn't ready for someone like him 😂
Karstaag smashing Arngeirs body after he died tho
Rule #2: Double Tap
@@lSlendermaster hahahah i get the reference good zombie film
@@CallumDT Nice! 😂😂
The greybeards wined the ebony warrior because they only used fire breath and unrelenting force to stager him
You're right 😂
Hes back woot woot!
Back from High Hrothgar! 😂
The power of karstaag the power of cold and ice🤩🤩🤩
You really like him, I can tell 😂
@@lSlendermaster oh hell yeah, im a ice warrior myself and i use blizzard spells and frost shout a lot, so im a ice guy and today i used karstaag aganist ebony warrior two ice warriors casting blizzard on the mountains it was just legendary
@@LICENFIREFEAR And I bet Karstaag won, right? 😎
@@LICENFIREFEAR And I bet Karstaag won, right? 😎
@@lSlendermaster oh 100 % me and him demolished the glorious ebony warrior, may he rest in peace
Too bad Alduin took a while to decide to unleash his meteor scream. x.x
For Karstaag, I would have added Paarthunax, he is also part of the Greybeards group But the fights are greatToo bad Alduin took a while to decide to unleash his meteor scream.
For Karstaag, I would have added Paarthunax, he is also part of the Greybeards group.
But the fights are great ^-^
Yeah, I have no idea why Alduin acts like that. In some rounds, he just never uses his meteor shower, so recording any videos with him is pretty frustrating. 🤷
That's actually a nice idea! Thanks for the suggestion, maybe it'll come in handy in the future sometime. 😁
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed them! 😄
Alduin would of won if he did meteor sooner. And why did the ew not use his bow?
@@elric5371 Maybe. His meteor shower barely does any damage, and is mostly about stagger. I have no idea why he sometimes doesn't use it. 🤷
The Ebony Warrior only switches his bow if his opponents are far away or if he somehow can't reach them. He usually tries to go for melee otherwise 😄
Greybeards are incredible
I like how they ragdoll and freeze opponents 😂
@@lSlendermasterthey are masters of the voice
@@LICENFIREFEAR Miraak would like to complain 😆
@@lSlendermaster miraak is the grandmaster of the voice
@@LICENFIREFEAR Nice answer 😎
The graybeards don’t got really any defense or often. The only thing they got is shouts and with a ward those shouts can be countered. All shouts are is magic.
They just shout their enemies to death which is kind of overkill because they don’t really got a cool down like the player does
@@nightmaremaster7731 They are very unbalanced indeed, which is why I rarely use them in my videos. The way they killed the Ebony Warrior was kinda bad, but I kept it in because it's funny 😂
Honestly, I think Bethesda could’ve done a lot more with the shouting on Skyrim, creating a skill tree unique to the main character on my games I hardly ever use shout they take too long to cool down and they’re kind of week. In my opinion there are spells that are just as powerful or more powerful than shout and they don’t have a cool down
@@nightmaremaster7731 For real! I don't use shouts a lot either because of the horrendous cooldown. Mostly unrelenting force because the effect is great and it recharges okay-ish. But things like fire/frost breath or even storm call... nah 😂
So apparently the grey beards could’ve killed Alduin as soon as he appeared but they just didn’t cause prophecy
Kinda. Dragonrend would still be required, but aside from Alduin's invulnerability, he's not that strong 😅
I think that with a smarter dodging and a little more magicka Esbern would have made it
Possibly. 🤔 I think he's need quite a big magicka boost
@@lSlendermaster a fast dodge against shouts and 3-4 potions of restore magicka, and Arngeir would be done. Look the damage Esbern did him with only 5 fireballs from distance. And fireballs are faster than fire breath shout
@@grandeleader That would be a huge tweak to Esbern though 😂
A long overdue question: have you modified Alduin? At least in theory, in the game he’s scripted to be invulnerable while in flight
Yes, I did remove the invincibility. Otherwise, there would be no point of any NPC battles with him 😄
Can we have a rematch with the blades vs Greybeards with the secret 3rd blade member Fultheim
Perhaps they can all brand full blades armor and weapons!
I had to look up who Fultheim even is. 😂 I probably won't repeat this one though, and especially not with custom gear. Sorry 😅
@lSlendermaster understandable. I appreciate you letting me know!
@@dreamzplayern1684 Sure thing! Thanks for the suggestion anyway 😄
Greybeards higher than the cloud district
Higher than Partysnax!
Do Delphine and Esbern vs Paarthunax
I had that idea a long time ago, but it would be pretty boring for a standalone video, and none of them are interesting enough for a full episode 🤷
Arngeir: you are not killing parrthurnax
Delphine: where the heck did you get that from that’s a stupid idea not killing parrthurnax what’s wrong with you?
Delphine is not the sharpest tool in the shed 😆
You should of had Paarthurnax as one of the greybeards
Maybe. It would have made the battle much more complicated to record though
Bro is this Anniversary edition? Or old one?
That's Special Edition 😄
it makes no sense 465 dislikes and all positive comments. I think its a great battle too
When I check in UA-cam Studio, it shows me 189 likes and a single dislike. If I watch in another browser with an extension that shows dislikes (by default, I can't see them), I see something like 500 dislikes. I suppose it's a bunch of bots. 🤷 Thanks though!
@@lSlendermaster yeah must be bots. Yt strange
Have you ever had any luck with Werewolves? They are absolutely horrible to put in battles since for some reason their attacks have knockback which can pretty much cripple any opponent that can be ragdolled. I've also seen them flat out refuse to fight certain enemies like the Falmer, they just run away.
I'm actually going to upload a Werewolf episode soon! Yeah, I know what you mean. It takes quite a while to get a recording that is somewhat good to watch. The issue with them running away is something I still haven't been able to resolve. Confidence and aggression settings seem to have no impact. Funny thing, the same happens with Werebears, and I'm going to have them fight... but they both run away from each other. 😂 I'm not sure why that is. I only noticed that it happens after they take a large amount of damage with a single hit, or they're low on health. 🤷
@@lSlendermaster I have the same issue in Fallout 4 which is the worst game to do enemy battles in, Deathclaws will always run from Behemoths unless you increase their scale which is super weird. I am also not a fan of annoying glitchy AI where they just stand there and stare at their opponent as their hp bar gets destroyed. My ideal fight is when they just hit eachother relentlessly without pause lol.
@@AuXiiLia I haven't played any Fallout games, but your pain is very relatable, and I completely agree! I've had the same AI issue with lots of opponents, especially Dragon Priests, and also Karstaag. Which is a bummer, because both are really cool to watch. 🤷 Making enemy battles isn't as easy as one might think, right? 😂
Also, is your name a reference to Borderlands, by any means? 👀
@@lSlendermaster Dragon Priests are the absolute worst, I am not sure why they constantly do those pointless taunt animations. My guess is Bethesda thought they were OP so they gave them a free opening. Also yeah it is a reference to Borderlands 2 haha, thought it sounded cool. Btw Dragon Priests have a tendency to get stuck on walls a lot, I recommend using the arena where you fight the 2 dragons in Dawnguard DLC, that's where I always did my battles lol.
@@AuXiiLia I think those and many other animations are intended to add the experience, without having "just" attacks. Predatory animals roar, giants hold their clubs in the air and pose, and draugr pound on their shields. I even think those details are pretty nice, but it's a different story if you're trying to get rapid battles. 😂
It does sound cool! 👍
Ahh, I remember that area. I've kept it in mind, but I prefer to do my matches in somewhat enclosed arena-like setups. This way, enemies can't move or get thrown too far away, which would make it hard for the camera to follow, and they sometimes even move so far away that they lose track. Thanks for the tip though!
HOW do the greybeards kill two Gods but get curstomoped by a ghost?!
Karstaag is one of a kind 😆
When 1 unstoppable force meets 3* immovable objects, this battle is destined to go on forever
*4 but that's the quote from the odgrub video
Awesome, I like that! 😁 I only know the "unstoppable force vs. immovable object" concept in general. I need to check out that video!
I genuinely did not know until this video that Delphine and Esbern only had a max level of 30.
That's honestly really sad.
In fact, looking at their stats, even if you gave Delphine her Blades Armor it would have only *moderately* helped since her Heavy Armor skill is actually lower than her Light Armor skill and doesn't even scale with her level.
Though I'm not sure why she doesn't use her Blades sword here instead of that dagger.
However, credit where its due, their fighting styles complement each other.
Delphine is the "tank" who can stay alive for, suprisingly, a fair amount of time.
While Esbern is just out here *zoomin* like he snorted Moon Sugar, while using a suprisingly solid array of spells to do a ton of damage.
Again, its just a shame that their max level is so low that they get outclassed statwide by generic bandits not even halfway through the game.
Yup, a lot of unique NPCs only scale up to level 30. The Blades are really not good. I remember them getting totally destroyed by the Forsworn at Karthspire. 😆 Although that's a pretty tough location.
I assume Delphine just doesn't have another weapon in her inventory by default. But you're right, even different gear wouldn't have made much of a difference here, especially against Arngeir.
And I like the Moon Sugar part! 😂
@@lSlendermaster
Yeah, Karthspire, the Thalmor Embassy and Mzulft are unironically the hardest parts of the vanilla game. Albeit for different reasons.
@@filipvadas7602 Hmm, what's the trouble with Mzulft? I only remember it as a fairly basic Dwemer ruin, even if it's connected to a quest 🤔
@@lSlendermaster
It is *long as hell*
God forbid you die halfway through after not saving for an hour 😢
@@filipvadas7602 Welp. 😂 I've gotten used to saving regularly, but I've seen lots of Skyrim players not doing that (in other locations) and dying several times in a row
The greybeard could've just went after the dragon priest, and the summoned creature would've disappeared
The dragon priest has a lot of health, so it makes sense here to get rid of the atronach first to reduce the damage taken. Arngeir only did a single shout that hit the atronach but not the dragon priest anyway 😄
Give Delphine her blades armor and weapon pls
The result would be the same 😂
@@lSlendermaster They got kinda close
@@Randomperson-rv6sy The armor doesn't offer any magic resistance, and the blade can easily get disarmed. I've had a round where Arngeir removed all her weapons one by one 😂
Greybeards vs Just For Men
I had to look up what the second thing is 😂
Well I always did kill the greybeards with mods and made all my characters insanely overpowered
The true Skyrim villain 😆
I like how you made Alduin submissive and killable
Thanks! I didn't see the point of having an invincible NPC in a fight 😆
This is a much more complicated map for the ai to run
It is kinda complicated, yeah. It's the best one I know though 😅
So Skyrim doesnt need a Dragonborn.
The lore is quite different from the gameplay mechanics. Although during the story, Dragonrend would still be required 😄
@@lSlendermaster Yes and even If Dragonborn really arent needed Skrim still worth to play :)
@@azizahkrin Indeed! 😎
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Appreciated! 👍
greybeards shouldn't have beat alduin, he's supposed to be invincible if you don't have Dragonrend
There would be no point making this setup in this case 😂
He was in a condition where he was nerfed
Isn’t Delphine supposed to dual wield?
Does she have a sword by default? 🤔 Maybe it gets added with a script. I didn't alter her in any way 🤷
no her combatstyle isnt dual wield,
@@Speedingv3 I honestly don't recall, I don't like Delphine 😂😂
@@lSlendermaster I hate the blades lol
@@Speedingv3 Paarthurnax > Blades, any day 😆
Judging by this, why the fuck did greybeards need the dragonborn anyway, old men just dont wanna die, very selfish.
Lorewise, they can't fully defeat him anyway. But they also don't want to, so you're not wrong 😂
Maybe à better matchup is ebony warrior vs karstaag
I have done that a long time ago, feel free to take a look: ua-cam.com/video/cOYPVdxBiTs/v-deo.html
I have no clue what this maps name is
It's Fort Greymoor, west of Whiterun. I altered it a bit though 😄
Lmao yeah I was confused
@@CoinkKing Understandable 😂
wait why does this video have so many dislikes? is it your most disliked video?
Something is not right here 🤔
Kartaag vs greybeards vs ebony warrior is like rock paper scissors since kartaag can beat the greybeards and the greybeards can beat the ebony warrior and the ebony warrior can beat kartaag
Nice comparison. 😂 The Greybeards only win against the Ebony Warrior because of constant stagger, which doesn't work against Karstaag. He also wins against the Ebony Warrior almost all the time 😄
Yh ebony warrior can not beat karstaag.
@@dingbat19 ua-cam.com/video/IGbCOo6v_94/v-deo.html
@Sean J This is the conjured Karstaag, who is much weaker than the real one. It makes a difference 😄
@@lSlendermaster wait you used the conjured version here, I though you found a way to use the one we as players fight.
And lamo delphinus and esberne couldnt even defeat an old man
Calling Arngeir an old man is like calling a dragon a lizard 😝😆
its a powerful Being that is how he beat these fools:)
@@Speedingv3 The Blades are rather pathetic, but yes, Arngeir is a decent fighter 😄
I knew graybeards are too OP but this isn't an excuse Delphine is weak asf lol
Weak skills and weak personality, Delphine in a nutshell 😆
Why so many dislikes?
I assume dislike bots, because UA-cam Studio shows me different numbers, and I haven't gotten negative comments here, from what I remember 🤷
@@lSlendermaster weird. This video is awesome btw. Loved seeing Arengar solo both blades
@@bigphil2695 Thank you! 😁 Yeah, it's satisfying to watch 😂
Старая кашелка Арнгейр победил Дельфину и Эсберна. Разочарование
Delphine and Esbern are weak 😂
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@@lSlendermaster then im the last one right ? lol
@@Speedingv3 Hopefully not! 😳😂
@@lSlendermaster you see what I did there lol?
@@Speedingv3 Of course 😂
You should of had Paarthurnax as one of the graybeards
Maybe. It would have made the battle much more complicated to record though