“She Is British Made, We Have To Take Her In” | Shamima Begum Loses Appeal

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  • Shamima Begum's lawyers are determined to continue the legal battle after their latest attempt to restore her British citizenship was unsuccessful in the court of appeal.
    The judges unanimously ruled that the former home secretary, Sajid Javid, had the authority to overlook concerns about her potential victimization as a child trafficked when she joined ISIS in 2015.
    The court also deemed Javid's actions lawful, even if it left Begum, now 24, effectively stateless, as she held Bangladeshi citizenship until her 21st birthday.
    The argument about the impact on British Muslims was dismissed due to a national security exemption.
    Cristo speaks with political commentator Jonathon Lis.
    #news #politics #uk #security #shamimabegum #talktv #talkradio

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  • @oldskoolfantasy
    @oldskoolfantasy 3 місяці тому +342

    She is not welcome here, why would we want another traitor, we have more than enough here already

  • @Mary.Quantum426
    @Mary.Quantum426 3 місяці тому +170

    If her lawyers want to keep "fighting" for her, let her pay for them.

    • @ianraymondback
      @ianraymondback 3 місяці тому +2

      Her family are rich let them pay for it

  • @miakouglof9303
    @miakouglof9303 3 місяці тому +205

    British made? No. It was Islam that made her. Now she can live among her people. Best outcome for all of us.

    • @asmasultana8775
      @asmasultana8775 3 місяці тому +20

      100%

    • @gracecollins8415
      @gracecollins8415 3 місяці тому +13

      May she be only the first of a multitude.

    • @pkothari2178
      @pkothari2178 3 місяці тому +11

      There are others who have followed her. We cannot allow those who wants to join the radicals back in the country.

    • @merlin7766
      @merlin7766 3 місяці тому +4

      👍👍👍👍👍

    • @prp3231
      @prp3231 3 місяці тому

      Correct, Islam was responsible for this creature's behaviour

  • @Royboy50
    @Royboy50 3 місяці тому +176

    Get lost she deserted the UK for a murderous regime you have a very short memory of what those butchers did and she was complicit

    • @user-fj4yi1px9s
      @user-fj4yi1px9s 3 місяці тому

      Send her back to Islamic terrorists camp to produce more jhihadi piglets.if allowed in Britain she will start grooming other little gullible girls to become prostitute for Islamic terrorists.

    • @D-E-S_8559
      @D-E-S_8559 3 місяці тому

      What about the "white-widow" would she be stripped-off her citizenship-----what safeguards are there to ensure that a vindictive racist UK govt wouldn't seek to victimize it's black and brown political opponents or critics...
      I mean SOME UK Jews can join a plausible foreign Genocide and their citizenship status would still remain secure...
      Well, just remember that your-own govt has established that your citizenship is not guaranteed or sacrosanct----especially, when you are outside of the UK....
      Have a Habeas Corpus Day...

    • @taffy2126
      @taffy2126 3 місяці тому +2

      Totally agree she cant be trusted.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

    • @D-E-S_8559
      @D-E-S_8559 3 місяці тому

      @@taffy2126 Its NOT required under UK law that you trust anyone----not even the king himself...

    • @bigmatthews666
      @bigmatthews666 3 місяці тому +1

      They are Woke extremists

  • @greentroll9326
    @greentroll9326 3 місяці тому +354

    stop her legal aid she is no longer a british citizen . why should the british public pay for her

    • @songsmith31a
      @songsmith31a 3 місяці тому +47

      If she is no longer a British citizen then British tax-payers should not be payibg anything towards
      her legal representation and the seemingly endless appeals.

    • @lhr-hkt8912
      @lhr-hkt8912 3 місяці тому

      Some muslin lawyers are probably working pro bono.

    • @charliegirl3056
      @charliegirl3056 3 місяці тому +26

      I can't understand that, we must be mugs

    • @dorothyhunter9311
      @dorothyhunter9311 3 місяці тому +18

      Well said.

    • @annepoitrineau5650
      @annepoitrineau5650 3 місяці тому

      @@songsmith31aI think they are doing it pro-bono, for human rights reasons which I fully agree with.

  • @amyhylton3761
    @amyhylton3761 3 місяці тому +288

    She's readily confirmed her crimes. The national security threat has been officially confirmed more than once. We don't need to put her on trial and we dont need to bring her back to do so. Its ridiculous to argue anything different.

    • @peterkirk123
      @peterkirk123 3 місяці тому

      If Israel gets found guilty of genocide all dual UK / Israel passport holders who are currently in the IDF carrying out an assault on Gaza need their British passports revoked . It's ridiculous to suggest otherwise .

    • @D-E-S_8559
      @D-E-S_8559 3 місяці тому

      What about the "white-widow" would she be stripped-off her citizenship-----what safeguards are there to ensure that a vindictive racist UK govt wouldn't seek to victimize it's black and brown political opponents or critics...
      I mean SOME UK Jews can join a plausible foreign Genocide and their citizenship status would still remain secure...
      Well, just remember that your-own govt has established that your citizenship is not guaranteed or sacrosanct----especially, when you are outside of the UK....
      Have a Habeas Corpus Day...

    • @user-qm8cm1dn2v
      @user-qm8cm1dn2v 3 місяці тому

      ...First brings you down with a culture of fighting and slovenly conduct
      "Don’t Follow the Red Demon Anymore
      Cosmic bodies are decaying in the process of formation, stability, degeneration, and disintegration
      Most people in the world are Gods incarnated, seeking the Creator before disaster
      Gaining Dafa [Great Law] and remolding your divine bodies-that’s your wish upon coming here
      In the treacherous human world, how many can keep their nature amid delusion
      People all know the evil Party is bad
      Yet they follow along when it lies and persecutes Dafa disciples
      All know the evil Party is destroying traditional culture
      Why praise it at its feet when it smears history
      To ruin the Chinese people so they cannot be saved, the red demon
      First brings you down with a culture of fighting and slovenly conduct
      Then fills you up with wicked desire for sex, fame, and gain
      Before disaster comes, I still want you to hear the truth
      As the vow you made before coming to the world was pledged on your life
      March 15, 2017"
      Master Li Hongzhi (Hong Yin V, from Falun Dafa teachings)

  • @williamfindlay2710
    @williamfindlay2710 3 місяці тому +52

    Let her stand trial in the country she committed acts of terror . That country was SYRIA .

    • @azillliasmith2734
      @azillliasmith2734 3 місяці тому +5

      Yes why is every body missing this simple fact.....

  • @ForestFan74
    @ForestFan74 3 місяці тому +236

    She has never had any remorse! She deserves to be where she it and hopefully this will be a lesson to others. I have to say I am surprised though given this country is a complete walk over most of the time. Good riddance!

    • @D-E-S_8559
      @D-E-S_8559 3 місяці тому

      What about the "white-widow" would she be stripped-off her citizenship-----what safeguards are there to ensure that a vindictive racist UK govt wouldn't seek to victimize it's black and brown political opponents or critics...
      I mean SOME UK Jews can join a plausible foreign Genocide and their citizenship status would still remain secure...
      Well, just remember that your-own govt has established that your citizenship is not guaranteed or sacrosanct----especially, when you are outside of the UK....
      Have a Habeas Corpus Day.

  • @denise4487
    @denise4487 3 місяці тому +48

    British made? I DONT THINK SO!

  • @StephenRiley-sz2vc
    @StephenRiley-sz2vc 3 місяці тому +148

    Who benefits from her being allowed back ? Her family and her , sounds right 🙃🙄

    • @karenturner7184
      @karenturner7184 3 місяці тому +29

      And think hiw much she will cost you all in benefits

    • @StephenRiley-sz2vc
      @StephenRiley-sz2vc 3 місяці тому +6

      @@karenturner7184 benefits, moi ? Nope

    • @veronikalevtova9506
      @veronikalevtova9506 3 місяці тому +18

      ​@@StephenRiley-sz2vc If you are the UK taxpayer then you will be paying for her all your life.

    • @sylviawhite2794
      @sylviawhite2794 3 місяці тому +11

      She would sell her story

    • @sushigirl1069
      @sushigirl1069 3 місяці тому +8

      ​@@sylviawhite2794Yep, and milk the system, whilst claiming victim status.

  • @JimPlebeian
    @JimPlebeian 3 місяці тому +47

    If she was “ British made” then she wouldn’t be in this situation..

    • @Christcrusader98
      @Christcrusader98 3 місяці тому

      If she was British made she wouldn’t of joined Isis

  • @staceya5149
    @staceya5149 3 місяці тому +175

    If a dog is born in a stable, it doesn't make it a horse.

    • @MrDrbld
      @MrDrbld 3 місяці тому +1

      Is lamb the same as mutton?

    • @SteamvilleQuintet
      @SteamvilleQuintet 3 місяці тому

      @@MrDrbld Is stupid the same as ignorant?

    • @gracecollins8415
      @gracecollins8415 3 місяці тому +5

      @@MrDrbld Only a matter of time.

    • @candyman5912
      @candyman5912 3 місяці тому +1

      But if the stable was a country and the dog was a person, that person would be granted citizenship in the birth country. Ask Boris Johnson. He'll tell you.

    • @SteamvilleQuintet
      @SteamvilleQuintet 3 місяці тому

      @@candyman5912 Is that dog a trained self-indoctrinated active terrorist killer too?

  • @christopherdaly9384
    @christopherdaly9384 3 місяці тому +62

    Her and her kind are British only on paper!🤔

    • @merlin7766
      @merlin7766 3 місяці тому +9

      Well said. Being British is indeed far more than a passport etc.

    • @davehunter9342
      @davehunter9342 3 місяці тому +5

      Not until she was 21 according to the judge at this trial she was Bangladeshi.

    • @christynorman7288
      @christynorman7288 3 місяці тому +1

      Yes their heart is black.

    • @christynorman7288
      @christynorman7288 3 місяці тому

      She wasn't born here she obviously doesn't show her birth cert. I read ions ago she came over with a large extended family on her parents Bangladeshi passport. We can see her birth cert on line if she was born here.
      I don't believe anything these people say they turn on a sixpence.
      Like Begum changed her clothes to look western quite expensive American style caps and sweatshirts from her black garb and dying her hair chestnut make up etc. yet she had been guilty of crimes in Syria - why don't the Syrians deal with her.
      I think you are defending her. You have no solid argument - she was responsible for supporting the Manchester bombings - she had the history of killing Syrians and agreeing to the suicide vests saying the British should be killed in the same way. She is a nasty piece of work and the limp excuses the human rights lawyer who doesn't seem very bright to me put forward - she was a trafficked child but in their culture the arranged marriages can be with the female being 10 years old just like one of Mohammed's wives I think Ayisha was 10 years old. So they change their goalposts to suit their argument - they will be stoning out women soon for a non existent adultery by the Sharia laws which are roan in this country now in 2000 there were twenty one areas in Britain run by Sharia law and the do gooders Guardian reading Clerkenwell ,& Camden lefties seem to want this country on its knees.
      Peace 🕊️

  • @kimhaslam664
    @kimhaslam664 3 місяці тому +88

    The lawyers are only chasing their huge salary. We have dealt with her. She is where she should be.

    • @juliegwilliam8503
      @juliegwilliam8503 3 місяці тому +5

      ....Where she chose to be!

    • @taffy2126
      @taffy2126 3 місяці тому +1

      Lawyer's 🤑🤑🤑🤑 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

  • @avrilcrisp5725
    @avrilcrisp5725 3 місяці тому +99

    She is not British made. She was born to Bangladeshi parents. She had dual citizenship - Bangladeshi/British - used by immigrant parents for safer movement between countries and moving financial benefits. She lived her life in an Islamic background and upbringing which is far removed from a British upbringing. The UK had every right to remove British citizenship, the Bangladeshi citizenship was removed after the British tore up her passport, so the UK did not leave her high and dry. She was well aware of her family roots and what she was doing to infer she was trafficked is a joke. I believe her parents and family should also have British citizenship removed and be deported.

    • @gracecollins8415
      @gracecollins8415 3 місяці тому +12

      Begum voluntary relinquished her British Citizenship before she left Britain. Begum's father left her and her mother (since deceased) in Britain and now has a home back in Bangladesh where he lives with another wife and children and has stated that she is not welcome and he won't have her in his house. There is no suggestion that she could not live elsewhere in Bangladesh. Begum is married to a Dutch jihadist Yago Riedijk who is alive in another camp and was hoping to return to the Netherlands where he expected to stand trial and serve around six years. They communicate regularly and he urges Begum to fight to return to Britain so they can be together (in Britain perhaps?) ' and raise a family. Of course, that opens up a whole other can of worms with the Family Reunion provisions of the Act. It would appear that Begum, as the wife of a Dutch man already has a legitimate claim to citizenship in the Netherlands so it's not as if she has nowhere to go. Let's face it, with the Strict Rules of Evidence that must be met in a British Court, Begum is likely to never face trial in Britain but it may not be so in the Netherlands.

    • @avtaras
      @avtaras 3 місяці тому +6

      I don’t think it’s her parents’ fault, they were overprotective middle class parents who wanted her to succeed, they were just really unfortunate to have a sadistic schizoid narcissist psychopath daughter

    • @davehunter9342
      @davehunter9342 3 місяці тому

      She is a very manipulative women according to Andrew Dury the journalist who first befriended her. The children the grooming all recently used to gain sympathy for our weak justice system.

    • @bubbelgum8697
      @bubbelgum8697 3 місяці тому +3

      She is born in UK and never been in bangladesh.

    • @gracecollins8415
      @gracecollins8415 3 місяці тому +5

      @@bubbelgum8697 Her entire extended family live in Bangladesh. I recall that one of her uncles agreed to take her in. But more to the point, she was married to three ISIS fighter, the last, a Dutch man is still alive. They communicate regularly and plan to raise a family together. So she already has a place to go, and a husband and extended family to rely on, in the Netherlands.

  • @phucknuts.7065
    @phucknuts.7065 3 місяці тому +149

    We need to write to Syria and ask them why they haven’t prosecuted her to the full extent of Syrian law.

    • @colp9492
      @colp9492 3 місяці тому +8

      Could be the fact that they are still in a civil war

    • @Acheron666
      @Acheron666 3 місяці тому +26

      We need to write to Bangladesh to ask why they made her stateless……They didn’t revoke her citizenship until she was 21.
      The UK revoked her citizenship a few years before that, so it was Bangladesh that made her “stateless.”……..I wonder why she’s not appealing their decision to revoke her citizenship 🤔

    • @lindabowman2868
      @lindabowman2868 3 місяці тому

      True, another proxy USA war at that!!

    • @azillliasmith2734
      @azillliasmith2734 3 місяці тому +10

      @@Acheron666interesting question.... some places do what they like while holding the UK to the highest standard....

    • @veronikalevtova9506
      @veronikalevtova9506 3 місяці тому +10

      ​@@colp9492 Syria is NOT in civil war. Here in Canada we had accomodated > 100 000 so called Syrian refugees about 10 years ago. Canadian government paid with our money for their free chartered flights. Once here, in Canada there were placed in 4- 5 ***hotels "all included" for about 2 years. We - as taxpayers- paid for this. But Syrians never stopped complaining. They gave interviews saying that they WERE LURED to come here and they were promised free houses with gardens and swimming pools. Eventually many of them returned to Syria.

  • @johndriscoll157
    @johndriscoll157 3 місяці тому +84

    His argument falls down when he says she should stand trial in front of a jury of her peers. They would have to be fellow j ihadis.

    • @gracecollins8415
      @gracecollins8415 3 місяці тому +6

      Let's face it, with the Strict Rules of Evidence that must be met in a British Court, Begum is likely to never face trial in Britain.

    • @user-hf1pg2ey6l
      @user-hf1pg2ey6l 3 місяці тому +4

      Or all of them will be her fellows and she will get off scot free.

  • @HubbaHubba64
    @HubbaHubba64 3 місяці тому +32

    She married a Dutch citizen so let his family look after her

    • @SteamvilleQuintet
      @SteamvilleQuintet 3 місяці тому

      Ah, the Dutch. That little pocket of leftover nazis.

    • @davehunter9342
      @davehunter9342 3 місяці тому +1

      Can't wait for her lawyers to claim her marriage is not recognised in U.K.

  • @StephenRiley-sz2vc
    @StephenRiley-sz2vc 3 місяці тому +64

    Unlimited appeals ? £7 m paid by taxpayers lol😂 unfeckingbelievable

  • @jackroberts1583
    @jackroberts1583 3 місяці тому +43

    Hasn’t been convicted of a crime? She joined ISIS mate

    • @lostcamper
      @lostcamper 3 місяці тому +1

      Are you aware of the definition of the word "convicted?"

    • @jackroberts1583
      @jackroberts1583 3 місяці тому +2

      @@lostcamper 😂 come on now

    • @lostcamper
      @lostcamper 3 місяці тому +1

      @@jackroberts1583 that answers my question. May I suggest a dictionary?

    • @jackroberts1583
      @jackroberts1583 3 місяці тому

      @@lostcamper we get it, you’re a terrorist sympathiser

  • @jamieriglin1511
    @jamieriglin1511 3 місяці тому +43

    No we bloody well don't
    You can have her come live down your road with your kids!!!!

  • @user-mc2td8oy8q
    @user-mc2td8oy8q 3 місяці тому +33

    We don’t want her here

  • @imbonkers3629
    @imbonkers3629 3 місяці тому +34

    Give her to the Syrians to deal with 😊

  • @Simply_Me100
    @Simply_Me100 3 місяці тому +66

    The problem with Begum is that she'll say and do anything that supports her cause. Her morals are as fluid as her dress sense.

    • @christynorman7288
      @christynorman7288 3 місяці тому +7

      Haha well said

    • @taffy2126
      @taffy2126 3 місяці тому +1

      W.hat I can't get my head around her 3 OF HER babies died.why haven't Syrian police investigated that .

    • @Simply_Me100
      @Simply_Me100 3 місяці тому

      @@taffy2126Perhaps they have a bit more on their plate than investigating some goofy bitch?

    • @christynorman7288
      @christynorman7288 3 місяці тому +1

      @@taffy2126 agreed 👍

    • @BadAppleBlues
      @BadAppleBlues 3 місяці тому

      she could say that she has converted to Christianity - the gullible fools who head the Church of England will back her to the hilt.

  • @silverstreak1244
    @silverstreak1244 3 місяці тому +30

    A problem for Britain to deal with? Well we have dealt with it she don't come back here.

  • @boranbkk4270
    @boranbkk4270 3 місяці тому +24

    She committed the crimes in Syria against the Syrian people. She should be tried, convicted and jailed in Syria.

    • @davehunter9342
      @davehunter9342 3 місяці тому +2

      No witnesses to her crimes in U.K. , how can she be tried here ?

  • @nihilistlivesmatter
    @nihilistlivesmatter 3 місяці тому +45

    About as British made as the Swedish IKEA flatpack assembled in a flat in Hereford

  • @Charlotte-kv7yu
    @Charlotte-kv7yu 3 місяці тому +35

    No muslim is really one of us when it boils down. The qicker we reslise this the quicker we get our country back.

    • @StephenRiley-sz2vc
      @StephenRiley-sz2vc 3 місяці тому +3

      Correct. You're lovely looking.btw haha

    • @hashfingers
      @hashfingers 3 місяці тому

      @@StephenRiley-sz2vc what a loser

    • @Charlotte-kv7yu
      @Charlotte-kv7yu 3 місяці тому +4

      @@StephenRiley-sz2vc thank you

    • @pkothari2178
      @pkothari2178 3 місяці тому +2

      Good reply.

    • @lostcamper
      @lostcamper 3 місяці тому

      Thoughts and prayers that you may someday wake up to the beauty of the world you live in

  • @yvettedavis2256
    @yvettedavis2256 3 місяці тому +31

    Bangladeshi made…!

  • @coopz1969
    @coopz1969 3 місяці тому +46

    She shouldn't worry as labour will bring her back and make her an mp

  • @irenetaylopr8041
    @irenetaylopr8041 3 місяці тому +16

    She wasn't dragged on that aircraft, she was 15 and knew the difference between right and wrong.

  • @mrforeman7443
    @mrforeman7443 3 місяці тому +28

    We should send all her friends and supporters out there to comfort her for the rest of their lives.

  • @suzann2531
    @suzann2531 3 місяці тому +15

    She wasn’t a child she was old enough to know better.

  • @Dibley8899
    @Dibley8899 3 місяці тому +34

    Well, she's not a British problem anymore. She was nearly 16 when she took her decision. If she's a victim, by that thinking, any 15-year-old who takes the life of another is not a perpetrator but the victim. Another bleeding heart.

    • @davehunter9342
      @davehunter9342 3 місяці тому

      She would have been 16 in the August 6 months after leaving , I wonder why she never acquired the sense to return then

  • @suzann2531
    @suzann2531 3 місяці тому +15

    If she has to stand trial then it should be in the country where she committed those crimes. Not UK

  • @danielblack1189
    @danielblack1189 3 місяці тому +34

    Being British is not simply being born here. Or as is now the common message anyone can be British so being British means nothing.

    • @brettdixon5198
      @brettdixon5198 3 місяці тому +4

      If a dog is born in a stable that doesn’t make it a horse.
      She was never British.

    • @candyman5912
      @candyman5912 3 місяці тому

      ​@brettdixon5198
      She's not a dog, and Britain isn't a stable.

    • @azillliasmith2734
      @azillliasmith2734 3 місяці тому +2

      @@candyman5912troll bot spot

    • @brettdixon5198
      @brettdixon5198 3 місяці тому

      @@candyman5912 it’s a very good analogy.
      She is I fact very dog like.

    • @candyman5912
      @candyman5912 3 місяці тому

      ☝️idiot alert ⚠️

  • @paulsmyth3580
    @paulsmyth3580 3 місяці тому +9

    Her crimes were in Syria' thats where she should be in court

  • @guywas-ere359
    @guywas-ere359 3 місяці тому +28

    Someone needs to tell theae people that it is possible to be nice without having to be a complete wet blanket and door mat for everyone to walk over.

  • @mrsm8821
    @mrsm8821 3 місяці тому +9

    If isha was 6 and she was an adult according to islam . Shamima is not a victim .she knew what she was doing . Shes islam made

  • @johnwoodward4319
    @johnwoodward4319 3 місяці тому +5

    “She Is British Made, We Have To Take Her In” .....NO WE BLOODY DON'T.

  • @derekowens1817
    @derekowens1817 3 місяці тому +53

    This is the end result of decades of frivolously handing out British citizenship where it should never have happened.
    If we really needed guest workers, we should have accepted them for a fixed period, as individuals, sent them home when their time was up, and replaced with a new rotation, rather than allow permanent settlement, with all the problems that has brought. D

    • @GailPlatt
      @GailPlatt 3 місяці тому +2

      I agree - the fixed term working visa always used to be the norm everywhere, I can't understand why there is an expectation now that anyone coming here needs to be given citizenship for them and their family?
      They should apply for a fixed term working visa and then go home when the visa expires surely?

    • @derekowens1817
      @derekowens1817 3 місяці тому +3

      @@GailPlatt spot on, and not just here.
      I understand "asylum seekers" and immigrants in Ireland have been allowed to bring in up to 20 family members, once they have settled status, and one tried to get 70 in. D

    • @christynorman7288
      @christynorman7288 3 місяці тому +3

      Derek well said. But we seem to have lost our marbles. It goes without saying that the standards for entry were never enforced and students came over and disappeared into the ether.
      Then we have a shortage of care workers so thousands of Zimbabwean care workers came over and they live in one city (claiming benefit) aka Leeds and travel to Nott's to 'do live in home care @ £850 weekly,' they get £56 extra to revisit their family in Zimbabwe and do three weeks on and one week off going back to Leeds from Notts. They have names made up like Previous, Pretty, Princess, Perfect and sit there with their expensive laptops and do nothing my friend a tetraplegic they panicked and two on duty didn't know how to deal with anaphylactic shock
      She died they are NOT trained they don't do anything by the time they Rang the. NHS nurse she was dead.
      They ate, watched TV, played cards, had their washing done food put on front of them etc. so 3 weeks on at £850 plus their holiday money of £56 week to visit family and under a different name lives in a different city like Leeds. Working for an American company Medicare.
      The lady Precious had a black male boyfriend and she brought two sons over 14 & 16 to live in the Leeds flat whilst she was working in Heanor Derbyshire
      We surely don't have to put up with substandard care workers like that ?
      God help our disabled Peace out☮️

    • @derekowens1817
      @derekowens1817 3 місяці тому +2

      @@christynorman7288 very true. Many of our new friends, from whichever background, are not here to "contribute" but are here for their own self interest, and so many people have fallen for the various cons that are being peddled to justify the huge numbers of foreigners being allowed to enter the country......

    • @routeman680
      @routeman680 3 місяці тому +2

      Absolutely right. Work visas are normal practice in lots of countries all round the world. You don't have right of residence and when your job comes to an end so does your visa. Perfectly sensible and good for the country and the guest worker. Britain must be a laughing stock.

  • @thesuperflipped3838
    @thesuperflipped3838 3 місяці тому +9

    This Jonathan Lis ,is without any doubt Totally in LOVE with Her,,this is the only explanation for his behavior 😮

  • @MS-bm5dc
    @MS-bm5dc 3 місяці тому +16

    If the government made the decision that she’s a security threat then we should accept it. The government intelligence must know her history to deem her dangerous

  • @paulukjames7799
    @paulukjames7799 3 місяці тому +12

    Trafficked out the country that is a new one, she tried to take us in.

    • @reshs7362
      @reshs7362 3 місяці тому

      I saw the footage, didn't she recruit her teenage female friends.

  • @nigelhydetimms5410
    @nigelhydetimms5410 3 місяці тому +14

    Not worth discussing

    • @lostcamper
      @lostcamper 3 місяці тому

      And yet here you are discussing it

  • @imbonkers3629
    @imbonkers3629 3 місяці тому +14

    If she did a few years in jail , then it will be given a house 🏡 40 years on top benefits because the mental health card will be out in a flash , so free housing, 40 years of benefits and health care 🙄

    • @StephenRiley-sz2vc
      @StephenRiley-sz2vc 3 місяці тому

      All for being a part of ISIS, makes sense, right 🫣

  • @gilbert7794
    @gilbert7794 3 місяці тому +10

    As she is no longer A holder of British citizenship and lives in a foreign country she shouldn’t receive a single penny from the U.K. tax payers.

    • @marianac715
      @marianac715 3 місяці тому

      Butt her lawyers are primarily being paid by taxpayers. One of her lawyers says they will appeal. As long as he is guaranteed an source of income he will continue to appeal on her behalf. Perhaps the courts should put a limit on the number of appeals the government will fund. If the Muslim community and the bleeding hearts want to fund more appeals, let them.

  • @luciaguarino3465
    @luciaguarino3465 3 місяці тому +8

    Nearly all Pakistani, Bangladeshi and others from Muslim countries will have a dual passport so she has a country to go back to ie Bangladesh as for her being our problem we have enough problems, this guy is a massive virtue signaller.

  • @GuterresPirres
    @GuterresPirres 3 місяці тому +20

    defending or defending someone who has been declared directly involved in the ISIS terrorist organization would indeed be dangerous to the national security of a country and in this case Shamima should be expelled from the UK and all appeals should be rejected whatever the reason.

    • @mostakahmedsimon1304
      @mostakahmedsimon1304 3 місяці тому

      Never let that bloody terrorist in to the UK. She's literally a traitor. Many decent Muslims like me as well as us suffer and get defamed only because of damn people like her. As a Muslim and a human being of course, I must condemn what she did.

  • @allopinionsstatedaremyown5056
    @allopinionsstatedaremyown5056 3 місяці тому +10

    Not a victim, but a victimiser. Just ask the Yazidi girls and others she targeted. Making suicide vests? What does Jonathan Lis think she was going to do with them? Use them as High viz vests?

    • @Bakeroo
      @Bakeroo 3 місяці тому

      She was definitely a perpetrator. I've watched a documentary on the morality police it is reported she was a member of and it's horrendous how they treated women. I'd rather give her citizenship to a Yazidi women that she thought it was OK to use as a slave. Citizenship should be a privilege not a right. I'm a dual national, second generation immigrant and love the UK and our liberal values.

  • @suppiah1772
    @suppiah1772 3 місяці тому +5

    She renounced her British citizenship for ISIS. Do not take back.

  • @simonbmr
    @simonbmr 3 місяці тому +10

    What exactly is the qualification of this person, Jonathan Lis, to say he knows better than the Home Secretary, Security Services and the Law Courts? We have boat loads of potential terrorists flooding over the English Channel daily, without the need to fly one in from Syria. She committed crimes in Syria, why does she need to be tried in the UK

    • @PhatSimey
      @PhatSimey 3 місяці тому

      I think Jonathan Lis is a closet islamist.

  • @sonyashas9347
    @sonyashas9347 3 місяці тому +6

    What signal will that send were she to get back here. I wouldn’t feel safe and she’s a security threat.

  • @User_Name00
    @User_Name00 3 місяці тому +8

    Lis, Foufas and Begum. Not an ounce of British blood between them.

  • @johnbritton895
    @johnbritton895 3 місяці тому +6

    These people are just a drain on the public purse.. Endless legal aid, the money it takes to monitor them 24/7. Insanity 😡

  • @danielriddell441
    @danielriddell441 3 місяці тому +5

    She is definitely NOT British made. And no we do not have to take her

  • @Truthmatters-4all
    @Truthmatters-4all 3 місяці тому +8

    Every action has consequences. You man can live with her if you feel bad for her in the place where she belongs not the GB please

  • @gracecollins8415
    @gracecollins8415 3 місяці тому +4

    Begum voluntary relinquished her British Citizenship before she left Britain. Begum's father left her and her mother (since deceased) in Britain and now has a home bacck in Bangladesh where he lives with another wife and children and has stated that she is not welcome and he won't have her in his house. There is no suggestion that she could not live elsewhere in Bangladesh. Begum is married to a Dutch jihadist Yago Riedijk who is alive in another camp and was hoping to return to the Netherlands where he expected to stand trial and serve around six years. They communicate regularly and he urges Begum to fight to return to Britain so they can be together (in Britain perhaps?) ' and raise a family. Of course, that opens up a whole other can of worms with the Family Reunion provisions of the Act. It would appear that Begum, as the wife of a Dutch man already has a legitimate claim to citizenship in the Netherlands so it's not as if she has nowhere to go. Let's face it, with the Strict Rules of Evidence that must be met in a British Court, Begum is likely to never face trial in Britain but it may not be so in the Netherlands.

  • @LisaFan135
    @LisaFan135 3 місяці тому +11

    It's debateable how British-made someone is if they grew up in an area that is arguably an enclave (Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets.)

  • @kevinwebb6338
    @kevinwebb6338 3 місяці тому +5

    She might be British made, but became a traitor.

  • @manpreetbrar838
    @manpreetbrar838 3 місяці тому +8

    Shamima is no more British than rishi sunak or cruella braverman, or pretty patel.
    They should also not be allowed back in due to treason .

  • @paulsmyth3580
    @paulsmyth3580 3 місяці тому +5

    she had 3 kids that died' to 3 dead terrorists' why he only say child?

  • @vssprc
    @vssprc 3 місяці тому +9

    JL sums up the debate, but he doesn’t address the law. She clearly doesn’t have “the right” to come back and defend herself in a court of law. She is a traitor and a national security threat, however that happened and she is suffering the consequences of the actions she took to deserve that designation. Which seems to mean a withdrawal of all rights to British citizenship for her AND her offspring.
    Tough, but there you go.

    • @davehunter9342
      @davehunter9342 3 місяці тому

      True , no witnesses to her crimes here.

  • @iamaslavetonoman911
    @iamaslavetonoman911 3 місяці тому +5

    No and she can take her mates from the uk with her

  • @juliemaddern
    @juliemaddern 3 місяці тому +4

    Time recent arrivals stopped taking the mick out of British people

  • @MrJohnL21
    @MrJohnL21 3 місяці тому +8

    Begum is 'British made?' That sounds interesting. A Toyota car coming off the production line in Sunderland will always be 'Japanese' because of its Japanese design with Japanese components, but probably useful because of its reliability despite its mechanical incompatibility with any domestic 'British' product. Begum is likewise clearly Bangladeshi-designed with Bangladeshi DNA, but her persistent 'Bangladeshi' behaviour making her ideologically incompatible with traditional UK standards even though she was apparently 'assembled' in the UK. So whilst a Toyota car's reputedly reliable performance would probably make it a valuable asset to any British owner, Begum has proved beyond any doubt that she can only be a disruptive and probably dangerous and expensive liability, and of very little constructive use to the self-respecting British people.

  • @skylar7740
    @skylar7740 3 місяці тому +6

    I love how the media is trying to make out the British want her back. “She would be welcomed back,” says Bisher, a volunteer at the Baitul Aman mosque, which is the closest to Begum’s family home, where a nearby street has 15 Palestinian flags fluttering in the wind on every other lamppost. Says it all who wants her back.

  • @StephenRiley-sz2vc
    @StephenRiley-sz2vc 3 місяці тому +5

    He calls her a " Lady " lol😅

    • @rsvbiker4149
      @rsvbiker4149 3 місяці тому +1

      Cause he's never had a lady looking like that 😂

  • @tlw842
    @tlw842 3 місяці тому +17

    Where were the parents in all this? How did the girl arrange everything without anyone in the household knowing? If the parents sanctioned Shamim joining Isis, then they should be booted out as well. I can definitely see where eloping and getting married to a soldier would seem romantic to a young, stupid girl who believed everything she was being fed online, especially if she wanted to quit school and get out from under her parents' authority.

    • @1949Matilda
      @1949Matilda 3 місяці тому +2

      Wouldn't her parents have had to sign her passport application when she left?

    • @tlw842
      @tlw842 3 місяці тому +3

      @@1949Matilda I read that she left using her older sister's passport, which would have been a crime. I don't understand her siblings have not spoken out on her behalf.

    • @azillliasmith2734
      @azillliasmith2734 3 місяці тому +1

      @@1949Matildashe stole one....

    • @carltaylor6452
      @carltaylor6452 3 місяці тому +3

      "eloping and getting married to a soldier" is a very euphemistically romantic lens through which to view her actions. The soldier was an ISIS militant, she approved of the actions of the soldiers of the Caliphate: the beheadings and rape and murder of women and girls, and she travelled freely to a medieval hell-hole to find a husband who engaged in all of that. She lost three children in the process and shrugged it off. It's a classic Mills & Boon plot! 🤣

  • @sandraevans6066
    @sandraevans6066 3 місяці тому +14

    Who is being naive here? Folk have been known to run criminal organizations from behind prison walls. What is more one can groom and recruit other prison inmates. Unless she is brought back and placed in isolation under stringent security conditions. She is probably better off staying put.

    • @gracecollins8415
      @gracecollins8415 3 місяці тому +2

      Let's face it, with the Strict Rules of Evidence that must be met in a British Court, Begum is likely to never face trial in Britain.

  • @carltaylor6452
    @carltaylor6452 3 місяці тому +7

    If she's British made, then that's an acknowledgement we have a big problem of Islamism and failed Multiculturalism. If that's the case, why will nobody - least of all the people who want Begum back - confront it honestly?

    • @veronikalevtova9506
      @veronikalevtova9506 3 місяці тому

      Because your country is already taken over by islamists before your very eyes.

  • @georgerobartes2008
    @georgerobartes2008 3 місяці тому +3

    Out of sight out of mind. We have enough here already, home grown and fresh imports .

  • @ChristineMurphy-gs2fc
    @ChristineMurphy-gs2fc 3 місяці тому +4

    She might be safe if she comes back but the rest of the country won’t be

    • @reshs7362
      @reshs7362 3 місяці тому

      Good point she's been living very safely for years at that refugee camp.

  • @pershorefoodbanktrusselltr3632
    @pershorefoodbanktrusselltr3632 3 місяці тому +4

    She’s lost three appeals now, she isn’t coming back, get over it! We have far more pressing things to deal with in this country!

  • @valeriegrimshaw1365
    @valeriegrimshaw1365 3 місяці тому +5

    She married a Dutchman....let her go there

  • @debrutomeyer9117
    @debrutomeyer9117 3 місяці тому +3

    One’s decisions has consequences

  • @kal5163
    @kal5163 3 місяці тому +3

    If the lawyers are determined to keep milking the system, they need to be absolutely clear that it is all their own cost. Not a single penny more in Legal Aid, because they've made a career out of it so far.

  • @abrahambiz2353
    @abrahambiz2353 3 місяці тому +3

    Why should a 15 year old be allowed to travel unaccompanied if truly we consider 15 years olds as children?

  • @paulm9016
    @paulm9016 3 місяці тому +4

    According to her lawyer it’s a “two-tier citizenship in her case because of her Bangladeshi ancestry”.. so from that logic how can she now be “British made” the point is she shows no sincere sorrow or any remorse in her decision to join a terrorist organisation and for the comments she made on the atrocities committed by the group she supported by Islamic state and the terrorist atrocities committed in the name of jihad here in the UK. If there is not a sincere apology for the deception to the British public for her actions in her “naivety and vulnerability of being groomed to be radicalised” in the narrative that herself, her sympathisers and her lawyer portrays why should she be invited back into the country that she was so quick to betray and show no remorse for the atrocities committed in the ideology she followed and also where are more followers of the same ideology agreeing that she was “groomed” to join an islamic caliphate?

  • @kevinmcguire6774
    @kevinmcguire6774 3 місяці тому +2

    NO! She is NOT British-made. She is Muslim-made!

  • @arthurdixon5890
    @arthurdixon5890 3 місяці тому +7

    This is a very sad situation. She has whitenesses events that are unimaginable to the rest of us. How can we be sure she will not act out some of her experience.

    • @carltaylor6452
      @carltaylor6452 3 місяці тому +3

      Not only did she witness them, she approved of some of them.

  • @waynewalker8227
    @waynewalker8227 3 місяці тому +4

    Can't believe this is still going. No means no, ship the rest out!!

  • @pauljames77777
    @pauljames77777 3 місяці тому +4

    Stop the legal aid and her clowns claiming these aid payments

  • @barrytyler
    @barrytyler 3 місяці тому +3

    Lawyers of course will appeal as it’s making them shed loads of money.

  • @ScragNath
    @ScragNath 3 місяці тому +2

    If a dog was born in a stable doesn't make it a horse. She was born here but she is not British.

  • @user-vh7eu5bt4i
    @user-vh7eu5bt4i 3 місяці тому +2

    By her own actions, this country was never her home; she's no more British than Gandhi. SHE IS NOT OUR PROBLEM.

  • @lindawebb1906
    @lindawebb1906 3 місяці тому +4

    1 appeal is enough, no more

  • @m2chan
    @m2chan 3 місяці тому +3

    If ever there a new born giant panda in the London Zoo ,it's ccp made, never British made.

  • @vel230
    @vel230 3 місяці тому +2

    She is not British made, she is Muslim made.

  • @ljiljanawebster359
    @ljiljanawebster359 3 місяці тому +4

    SHE US NOT BRITISH MSDE
    SHE IS
    A BANGLADESHI MUSLIM

  • @ClarenceBoddicker87
    @ClarenceBoddicker87 3 місяці тому +4

    Read the room

  • @gwenlillianlondon3772
    @gwenlillianlondon3772 3 місяці тому +2

    Why the heck are they going on about contrite words, actions speak loudest and hers were beyond doubt.

  • @charleshart6992
    @charleshart6992 3 місяці тому +3

    WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING!

  • @NickNorton
    @NickNorton 3 місяці тому +3

    She is not welcome back and neither are the people that want her back.

  • @benjaminbehan4411
    @benjaminbehan4411 3 місяці тому +11

    She'll keep getting denied in court and the problem is she can appeal as many times as she wants. I do wonder how the courts can think this way about an Isis bride and not about the thousands of illegal migrants coming here every year. A majority of illegal migrants commit crimes and get let off.
    I consider her a threat to national security but given what the UK has been going through in terms of violent protesters. Would we really notice any difference if she was here on the streets of Britain?

    • @audreyblack8629
      @audreyblack8629 3 місяці тому +3

      The protesters have not taken part in beheadings! What a stupid statement!

    • @azillliasmith2734
      @azillliasmith2734 3 місяці тому +1

      @@audreyblack8629that we know of ......and some of them gathered at a private home to "put their point" across....must have been terrifying for the family.....pitchforks and burning torches anyone?

    • @davehunter9342
      @davehunter9342 3 місяці тому +1

      RIP Lee Rigby

  • @alantan9585
    @alantan9585 3 місяці тому +1

    It's sheer stupidity the British tax payers to pay her legal fees when she is a non British citizen....

  • @jimh5031
    @jimh5031 3 місяці тому +1

    By the same rules can we get rid of anyone that isn't British Made then.?

  • @lucyfrancis8525
    @lucyfrancis8525 3 місяці тому +2

    Many footballers are British made,born in the UK but choose to play for their parents country,Shamima chose to 'play' for another country,not so long ago It was known as traitorism

  • @sandrahollinshead8713
    @sandrahollinshead8713 3 місяці тому +3

    No we don’t take her back or anyone who did the same as her. She was not trafficked what baloney.

  • @elitet3359
    @elitet3359 3 місяці тому +2

    No we don’t have to take her! She was not a victim of trafficking- she knew EXACTLY what she was doing.