Never has Velen looked more tired, mentally and physically. His expressions and voice tones really show his age, and it's amazing work they did on this cinematic
Illidan didn't do what he did for his people. illidan always wanted more and more power. doing it for his people was the excuse to take on the fel, nothing more. Velen did sacrifice a lot to save the few drainei left.
Wrong, Lalami. Very wrong. Illidan did what he did for ONE person. The one person he loved more than anyone. The one person he gave everything to protect the world for. Tyrande. And as I can only hope we have all learned... fighting save the ones you love, IS fighting to save the world.
MacHavok84 you with your char "Hey guys, I am also here, heellooo can't you see me? Don't ignore me you called me "champion\hero" 10000000000 times, plus I do use this fuking artifact wepp. Artifact wepp matters, no, no? HELLOOOO???!!!"
Khadgar got his time in the sun, we don't need his punnery when we're trying to have serious cutscenes. (Though his moment with his old friends about whose turn it was to buy drinks was pretty funny)
Illidan: This is it, this is where the legion falls! Taran Zhu arrives behind everyone from a random portal Illidan: How did....what are you doing here pandarian? Taran Zhu: The Legion has been terrorizing this world, after all is said and done, they shall stand trial in pandarian court.
Khadgar: Without its master's command, the legion will become an even greater threat to this world. There must always be... *A Sargeras.* Turalyon: This burden, it must be mine, for there is no other- Bolvar Fordragon: *TURALYON!*
I don't think a lot of you folks realize: Illidan is straight up just trying to push him to fight for his people, and it clearly worked hence why Velen looked to him at the end.
The problem is he is doing it in a way to make him abandon the light. Theres one thing to make him take a stand theres another thing to try and break him of his commitments. And Illidan is treading that line.
I don't think he's urging him to abandon the light. More like he's telling him to "walk his talk" instead of just sitting back and thinking everything will be laid out for him by the light.
"The Light is holding you back. It's time to forge your own path." You can say a lot of things about Illidan, but those lines were simply amazing and true.
TheTrackDownTeam Red Shirt Guy asked the devs and Blizzcon about this and they fumbled about bullshitting about how there may be something on the opposite side of the planet. Clearly they never thought about this until now. It'll be like Mists all over again. /puke
Illidan is many things, but in here, there is truth to his words,...Velen put faith in the Light, then watched his people suffer, die or get turned to the Legion's side.I was always neutral in regards to Illidan, but it amazes me how he can peer into a person's soul and see the truth.
*Without Illidan:* Draenei: "What are your orders, prophet?" Velen: "Set course to the farest charted planet. We'll make a new life there. The... the Light commands it."
There is a vast difference in Velen's actions vs. Illidan's. Yes he sacrificed the lives of his Moon Guard. Yes he hated it. And if he hadn't done it they would have all been dead anyway. That's the facet of Illidan that everyone from his brother to Maiev have been unwilling to see, his willingness to do whatever it takes to beat back the legion, no matter the cost. He knows in this fight one can't be good and noble and expect to win, sometimes you have to make very hard and ugly decisions.
@Libertum Music Actually, it was retconned, as it goes against the new image they wanted for Illidan. He ENJOYED killing the Moon Guard slowly, as it made him feel more powerful.Yea... Kinda goes against the image of "misunderstood hero".
True. But if he hadnt done that everyone else would have died as well. It is sorta more justified then velen honestly. I mean, not trying anything, whole world burns. Illidan sacrifices a few, whole world doesnt burn. Messed up thing to do, but honestly he probably made the right decision there.
Spookyturbo had Velen and the remaining draenei made a stand on Argus, they most likely would have died.(no one can stand against Sargeras) Without them, azeroth's heroes never would have gone to Argus, or even known about the army of the light. They did the right thing, Illidan just sacrifices everyone and everything thing in an attempt to stop the legion.
If the Draenei stayed on Argus they either would have been completely wiped out OR they would have eventually joined the Legion. Imagine Archimonde, Kil'Jaeden, AND Velen all serving Sargeras. Velen was wise to escape.
Nexius To save Suramar, their deaths prevented even more lives from being lost. He made a tough and controversial decision, his mages didn't die in vain. He regretted their death. Whether you feel he was justified and had no other choice is a separate issue but he didn't run or do nothing. That's Illidan's point. Plus this prove Illidan doesn't buy that bullshit about the light being his redemption
This is a great moment cus so far Velen has been portrayed as this perfect font of wisdom but Illidan exposes his crippling naivety. In these crucial events, Velen refrained from action because he became too reliant on the Light as a guide. His suspicions were in the right direction but he held back because he didnt trust them without validation from his faith - too used to having everything spoon fed to him through visions.
no please don't we already had Archbishop Benedictus go down that path we don't need another priest character repeat the same cliche thing over again. They'll get killed of this way anyway
This video is exactly why I like Illidan. He doesn't hold back, he doesn't coddle, he calls it like he sees it. If more people did this, there would be a whole lot less bullshit in real life.
Kenneth Merriman Sometimes you need sensitivity to reinforce the truth that you’re trying to get people to listen to otherwise, aggression is not the end all and be all when it comes to expressing the truth to those same people.
Except if Velen and the Draenei had not escaped Argus when they did... No Vindicaar, no Velen, no Army of the Light... We won because of Velen's sacrifice. He's the man who sacrificed everything! His world. His FAMILY. His brothers on the Triumvirate. Compared to that, Illidan is nothing.
One of Blizzards best cinematics ever. Illidan is such a complex and interesting character and Velen seriously looks like he's hiding something. But you can't help but want to have faith in the light in the same token and commend Velen for wanting to do the same. Just awesome. Well done Blizzard. Love it!!!
I am quite surprised to see all this...this SURPRISE, and disdain for Illidan's behavior in the cinematic. People are now saying how dickish he acts, and berating him for his rudeness towards the prophet. Meanwhile im looking at everyone like, "Uh... What did you THINK he was like???" Nothing was out of ordinary for me. THIS is Illidan! While everyone got so caught up in the 'Illidan-can-do-no-wrong' hype, they seem to have forgotten who Illidan is. He is not, and has never been, a goody-good guy. Those dickish tendencies have been there from the jump. That bravado, that arrogance, that sneer. Yep, perfectly normal to me. What, you thought he was gonna walk down all respectful like "Ah, the wise Velen. It is an honor to fight beside the great proph-" NO!!! He's never been that way. Hate to snap you guys back to reality, but allow me to re-introduce you to the Illidan Stormrage the rest of us knew from the beginning.
Oh god, I would give this Comment a thousand Thumbs-Up if I could. You nailed it. All of us who knew Illidan from the old days were pretty much waiting for this. This is how he is SUPPOSED TO BE. If they suddenly had him turn to the Light I would have lost faith in Blizzard. It will never happen.
im late to the party bro... when isaw him in the WC3 i knew he was special man... i was pissed when they killed him off in BC and was HAPPY AF when i found out he is being brought back in legion. look at the rest of the puppets that hold illidan in disdain. those the ones when something happens in this nation... would stand by and do nothing.
The legion! The legion, dude! it will go down in history. Such an amazing expansion. Come on, Blizz. Don't let us down with the next one, as you did with BfA. Give us what we want. GIVE US MORE EPIC!
To be fair, Illidan had a good point. He's mostly hated for being snotty here, but Illidan was %100 right in criticizing him, He could have stopped ALL those events, but just watched and ran.
Dark Paladin Yeah except he can't. If you even bother to read the book, he tried to convinced both Kiljaeden and Archimonde but they don't care. They know what Sargeras up to but they were obsessed with power. Second of all, he can't fight both Archimonde and Kiljaeden plus Sargeras. That would have been, not it is, suicide. The light told him to run and fight another day. If wasn't for him, then all of these event won't happened. You won't have a resistance strong enough to beat Sargeras and legion win.
I think he kind of looks like Jafar, with his red clothes and black hair x) Its funny cuz he also looks like he'd be the most sarcastic out of the three of them.
From the first day I played Warcraft, I'd have never predicted that the series would evolve into waging a cosmic war against an infinite army of demons on their decrepit homeworld. I love this series.
Velen: You'll never understand what I did to save my people. Illidan, who joined up with the legion to help his people, became hated for it, the girl he likes married his brother, he was imprisoned on multiple occasions and even banished at one point, tried to kill Arthas for the common good but was stopped by the good guys, created an entire faction in order to save Azeroth, was nearly killed and then nearly possessed by the dark titan, who has a warden CONSTANTLY chasing after him trying to kill/imprison him, all in the name of saving Azeroth and defeating the Burning Legion: Oh, I won't understand your sacrifice? Cute.
Loved this dialogue. Illidan and Velen are both trying to do the same thing but have taken different routes entirely. No wonder they have trouble working together.
"You will never understand what I did to save my people" -remembers when alternate Velen sacrificed himself to the light in order to aid his people against the orc invasion The feels man
@@CIAinTaiwanAndUkraine well iron horde pretty much deserved it, at least draenei gives them a chance to serve the light while Orcs was in the intent of genociding them.
@@strider8662 Iron Horde, maybe. The Frostwolves sure didn't though. And I'm pretty sure Velen would have been horrified at what Yrel turned his people into.
Yayyy people are finally listening to Illidan, the only one with the balls to do what needs to be done, ahaha Ysera come look at th-......oh.......yea.
Velen: We make our stand! The last battle for Argus... has begun. Soldier: Great, but those aren't orders, sir... Are we gonna let them hit us? No shield or maybe moving the ship out of line of fire?
*Have people here actually followed the actual lore where Velen tried to convince Archimonde + Kil 'Jaeden to stop joining Sargeras but they flat out refused to listen because of their quest for power?! Resisting is one thing, going on a suicide mission is a whole different thing! Velen chose to fight another day, when the time is right and he has enough support to take out this burning crusade!*
Didnt the worlds the draenei leave behind do kinda terrible due to the Legion following them? That's still alot of innocent lives lost for "fighting another day"
I really hope they don't go overboard with Illidan. It's nice that we're finally getting an honest "redemption" story out of WoW. Warcraft lore is full of good people who become monsters, heroes who become villains, but we rarely see a fallen hero redeem themselves, or have a villain turn to the side of good. Illidan was always an interesting and complex character in WoW, someone who tried to do good but whose hubris, greed, arrogance, jealousy and personal weaknesses often had him seek out power to build himself up. He wanted to be a hero but kept judging himself against his brother, who was more at peace with himself. Illidan seemed to settle into anti-hero territory, often doing bad things to try and achieve a good end, or succumbing to his temptations for power. "Burning Crusade" did him a terrible injustice, and his return was a welcome one. That said . . . "Illidan was always right" is just as bad as "Illidan was a cackling supervillain". Illidan is intelligent, dedicated, crafty and powerful, with a unique insight into the working of magic and demons. However, he's got little to know true knowledge of the Light and its followers. He's got no business telling Priests and Paladins that their faith makes them weak or mistaken. One of the nice things about WoW was that the Light was always an unambiguous force for good. I really don't want to see it turned into something ambiguous. Followers of the Light can be mistaken, can be corrupted, can be in the wrong. The Light should not. I don't want Illidan to become a know it all Mary Sue anymore than I wanted him to be a mustache twirling bad guy. The other heroes should not be looking to him for approval, and he should not be presuming to tell someone like Velen his business.
TFW whoever wrote Illidan's dialogue wants you to take the line about Velen failing his people and getting them all killed seriously after we had to sit through a dozen boring quests in which Illidan *literally murders his own comrades-in-arms* and *steals their life-essence to empower his magic* for "the greater good"...
It WAS for the greater good. He wasn't going to be able to beat the legion otherwise, and if he hadn't they were all going to die anyway. Illidan knew better than the others there that there was no value in going down fighting, they were the only thing standing between the legion and everything else. Illidan was and is willing to make ugly decisions because feel-good actions are not going to win the war.
@@belad0nna Stealing the Dragon Soul from Malfurion and giving it to Azshara for her to stabilize the portal was TOTALLY for the greater good. /sarcasm That was stupid. Illidan's a complete idiot and the retcon is just plain nonsense. Broxigar had nothing but contempt for Illidan because Illidan was a smug, abusive, arrogant prick who got off on torturing people with magic, like when he burned Broxigar's fingers when he was no threat. Or betrayed Malfurion in the way I mentioned. Illidan was an arcane addict who couldn't bear the thought of being without mana, which is why he stole the Dragon Soul to give to Azshara. It's also why he created a brand new (if smaller) Well of Eternity despite the Well being a frigging BEACON to the Legion to begin with, because the Legion found Azeroth the first time (sorta) because of all the arcane energy. It's why we had to stop Malygos when he was (initially) building up all the arcane energy of the world in the Nexus, before he decided to reroute it all to the Azure Dragonshrine so he could destroy all who resisted him with Mana Elementals popping up. It would've had the other result of calling the Legion back to Azeroth.
0:56 I'm going to go with Kil'jaeden being on the left, with the longer hair, and Archimonde on the right with less hair and the signature back decoration obscuring the back of his head. It took a while considering the traits I most associate with KJ are big ol' horns, red skin, thorns on his face, and the small beard.
I'm not going to lie, i despise what they did to Illidan in legion but this cinematic here I can't help but love Illidan so much. This is the only cinematic where you have a normal conversation between Velen and Illidan instead of this wannabe one liner edgy bullshit we see every time Illidan speak because he think he some kind of god. The smirky Illidan remind me a lot of my favorite character from other franchise and I can't just help but love it.
I have always seen Illidan as a Chaotic Good/Lawful Evil character. Doing whatever it takes to stop the thing that's killing his people and threatening the planet... I don't blame him for becoming bitter during BC. If anything, it has opened our eyes for the threat. Without Illidan in the Tomb of Sargeras, we wouldn't go to Argus to "end it" once and for all; because of his nature. Illidan, number one for character development (from the books into the game) for me :)
I love that ending: Illidan: Pssh, where is your army of the light? Velen: Right here! They're here to save us! * BOOM!!! * Velen: Nevermind, we're here to save them!
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Never has Velen looked more tired, mentally and physically. His expressions and voice tones really show his age, and it's amazing work they did on this cinematic
Illidan's the type of guy that asks for DPS charts because he knows he's top
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Facts
Chadidan
1:25
Velen: You will never understand what I did, to save my people
illidan: I've sacrificed everything, what have you given?
Godammit Illidan!
Illidan didn't do what he did for his people. illidan always wanted more and more power. doing it for his people was the excuse to take on the fel, nothing more.
Velen did sacrifice a lot to save the few drainei left.
Wrong, Lalami. Very wrong. Illidan did what he did for ONE person. The one person he loved more than anyone. The one person he gave everything to protect the world for. Tyrande. And as I can only hope we have all learned... fighting save the ones you love, IS fighting to save the world.
you know, Illidans smug grin at that sentence says basically all of it:
"now where have i heard that one before....oh right. myself."
Barn Owl Entertainment In the book, it stated that Illidan take pleasure from hurting his moon guard because he felt powerful for doing so.
Illidan's high heel entrance... :O
We all know that level of sass he delivered couldn't be done with out a set of pumps.
He must have perfect balance, otherwise he would fel
Technically High hooves.
rofl
Red Wrath What you accuse me of is false. Illidan would sympathize with me on that.
Khadgar at the end: "ALSO, I'M HERE!"
MacHavok84 you with your char "Hey guys, I am also here, heellooo can't you see me? Don't ignore me you called me "champion\hero" 10000000000 times, plus I do use this fuking artifact wepp. Artifact wepp matters, no, no? HELLOOOO???!!!"
he looks sad and worried :\
Khadgar got his time in the sun, we don't need his punnery when we're trying to have serious cutscenes.
(Though his moment with his old friends about whose turn it was to buy drinks was pretty funny)
Looks more to me like: "What the f**k am i doing here."
I think the reason Khadgar joins this team is because he is excited to see Aleria and Turalyon.
Illidan: What have you sacrificed?
Velen: If I hear one more demon hunter talk about sacrifice...
Love this
Illidan: This is it, this is where the legion falls!
Taran Zhu arrives behind everyone from a random portal
Illidan: How did....what are you doing here pandarian?
Taran Zhu: The Legion has been terrorizing this world, after all is said and done, they shall stand trial in pandarian court.
this is the true way Legion will end, another happy go lucky trial with everyone saying "We can all be a Saregeras!"
what are you doing down here, up with you!
Khadgar: Without its master's command, the legion will become an even greater threat to this world. There must always be... *A Sargeras.*
Turalyon: This burden, it must be mine, for there is no other-
Bolvar Fordragon: *TURALYON!*
Tirion's spirit: Dammit, Bolvar!
PurifiedAzure this made my day
I don't think a lot of you folks realize: Illidan is straight up just trying to push him to fight for his people, and it clearly worked hence why Velen looked to him at the end.
The problem is he is doing it in a way to make him abandon the light. Theres one thing to make him take a stand theres another thing to try and break him of his commitments. And Illidan is treading that line.
I don't think he's urging him to abandon the light. More like he's telling him to "walk his talk" instead of just sitting back and thinking everything will be laid out for him by the light.
@Jaze Exactly!
BurakkuHishou He never said abandon the light. He's simply telling him to stop putting his all in his faith, and to carve his own path.
Nytram Tehgreat Sometimes, the hand of fate must be forced.
I wish Maraad were here to see this and help Velen. Good thing he sacrificed his life saving a character that we will never see again!
Maraad also saved us from dying as well !! :)
Krucial and this is why i can't take blizzard and their lore habits seriously
Krucial hi krucil love ur vids man
Maraad was badass, one of the few squidheads I actually liked.
I have replaced Boros with Maraad in my mind. Nothing after Pandaria is canon anyway.
The truth about Azeroth not being flat has been revealed. We have the footage!
Clearly. this footage is fake and was filmed in a gnomish studio set.
Talin Silverbane Pfff... Conspiracy theorists...
HAHAHA
I guess you will also deny the Argus Landing! That did not happen either. Right!?
I still don't believe it
I like how Khadgar is present in the last scene. "H-hey g-guys..Legendary..-R-rings anyone?"
Plebstrike this gave me more laughs than it should have
cept not like a weeb
he needs twenty thousand argus crystals though.
1:32
Illidan: Learn to know the Dark-Side of the Force, and you'll be able to save your son from certain death. - Smirk -
Velen: What did you say?
Iris Gaming the rise of Darth Velender xD
xDD
Velen change to shadow spec confirmed
Reza Validi yeah, I haven't think of that, that's very brilliant
Brilliant
Am I the only one who gets chills when illidan talks lol.
wait waitWAIT
Wait, is there anyone who doesnt?
So basically, Illidan is telling Velen to change spec?
Den H. GO DPS VELEN YOUR TIME IS NOW
Illidan: 500K DPS OR KICK
Velen: I'm a healer.
Illidan: STFU 500K DPS OR KICK
nah he's just telling velen to try offensive spells for once
Essex Class velen is disc anyway xD
I guess Velenz gona go for disco from now on xD
"The Light is holding you back. It's time to forge your own path."
You can say a lot of things about Illidan, but those lines were simply amazing and true.
Illidan is just like that one snobby kid we all knew in high school that everybody hated.
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My feelings for Illidan has gone from 0 to 100 back to 0 this entire expansion.
But everybody 'respected' him because his parents are rich and will send special ops against whoever will not agree to his great will!
I like how Blizzard has clouds covering the other side of Azeroth
Azeroth is flat!
TheTrackDownTeam Red Shirt Guy asked the devs and Blizzcon about this and they fumbled about bullshitting about how there may be something on the opposite side of the planet. Clearly they never thought about this until now. It'll be like Mists all over again. /puke
well since the game made by illumination so you will see it globe not flat , they really love the lies
Well Mists was one of the best expansions this game had, so I'm more than up for another Mists.
MoP rocked compaired to cata and wod
Illidan is many things, but in here, there is truth to his words,...Velen put faith in the Light, then watched his people suffer, die or get turned to the Legion's side.I was always neutral in regards to Illidan, but it amazes me how he can peer into a person's soul and see the truth.
*Without Illidan:*
Draenei: "What are your orders, prophet?"
Velen: "Set course to the farest charted planet. We'll make a new life there. The... the Light commands it."
Illidan: "You failed your people. Their blood is on your hands."
Velen: "What about Moon Gua--"
Illidan: "RETCONNED!"
LOL
There is a vast difference in Velen's actions vs. Illidan's. Yes he sacrificed the lives of his Moon Guard. Yes he hated it. And if he hadn't done it they would have all been dead anyway. That's the facet of Illidan that everyone from his brother to Maiev have been unwilling to see, his willingness to do whatever it takes to beat back the legion, no matter the cost. He knows in this fight one can't be good and noble and expect to win, sometimes you have to make very hard and ugly decisions.
belad0nna Utter bullshit the lot of it. He is a hypocritical tool nothing more.
@Libertum Music Actually, it was retconned, as it goes against the new image they wanted for Illidan. He ENJOYED killing the Moon Guard slowly, as it made him feel more powerful.Yea... Kinda goes against the image of "misunderstood hero".
I love how wow managed to make a character that some people hate and others don't. It shows depth
Illidan: You failed your people, Velen.
Also Illidan: Kills his fellow Moon Guard.
True. But if he hadnt done that everyone else would have died as well. It is sorta more justified then velen honestly. I mean, not trying anything, whole world burns. Illidan sacrifices a few, whole world doesnt burn. Messed up thing to do, but honestly he probably made the right decision there.
Spookyturbo had Velen and the remaining draenei made a stand on Argus, they most likely would have died.(no one can stand against Sargeras) Without them, azeroth's heroes never would have gone to Argus, or even known about the army of the light. They did the right thing, Illidan just sacrifices everyone and everything thing in an attempt to stop the legion.
If the Draenei stayed on Argus they either would have been completely wiped out OR they would have eventually joined the Legion. Imagine Archimonde, Kil'Jaeden, AND Velen all serving Sargeras. Velen was wise to escape.
when you talk to someone at the class hall as a demonhunter.
Nexius To save Suramar, their deaths prevented even more lives from being lost. He made a tough and controversial decision, his mages didn't die in vain. He regretted their death. Whether you feel he was justified and had no other choice is a separate issue but he didn't run or do nothing. That's Illidan's point. Plus this prove Illidan doesn't buy that bullshit about the light being his redemption
This is a great moment cus so far Velen has been portrayed as this perfect font of wisdom but Illidan exposes his crippling naivety. In these crucial events, Velen refrained from action because he became too reliant on the Light as a guide. His suspicions were in the right direction but he held back because he didnt trust them without validation from his faith - too used to having everything spoon fed to him through visions.
Faith that lights the dark, but also bright enough to blind. Something Blackbeard said in Pirates of the Caribbean.
Man Illidan, chill out a bit would you
He says to the world’s greatest Edgelord
Some times the hand of fate must be forced
@@seksehfox his name?
0:45
I legit died at that smirk...
Draenei ships crashing since......well always.
Dranei drivers=Asians of Warcraft
I have never seen Illidan smile like that before!
Illidan's smugness makes this even better
Velen: Long discurse about morality, religion and following a code
Illidan: This ship better have guns. BIG guns.
Illidan with the burns
Illidad
Fel burns.
Aethen Illidan is the last dude to throw shade on anyone.
yet here he is
Illidan has become the warcraft troll
So you're telling me that they called their vehicle the Vindi-CAR
It's a Space-car
I really want to see Prophet Velen change his spec to shadow.
Sounds like it will happen
Nah, I think Alleria is already filling the whole "Turn to shadow" thing.
He is gonna get kicked out of the grp due to crappy aoe dmg he provides
no please don't we already had Archbishop Benedictus go down that path we don't need another priest character repeat the same cliche thing over again. They'll get killed of this way anyway
+I'm Negan
Velen doesn't necessarily have to be evil, he can just have a darker side to him but still be good
illidan with 12 packs
he lifts u kno
you trade freedom for packs
Years later wow still manages to bring 10 million people joy. Im happy that I am a part of those 10 million
This video is exactly why I like Illidan. He doesn't hold back, he doesn't coddle, he calls it like he sees it. If more people did this, there would be a whole lot less bullshit in real life.
Kenneth Merriman Sometimes you need sensitivity to reinforce the truth that you’re trying to get people to listen to otherwise, aggression is not the end all and be all when it comes to expressing the truth to those same people.
Except if Velen and the Draenei had not escaped Argus when they did... No Vindicaar, no Velen, no Army of the Light... We won because of Velen's sacrifice. He's the man who sacrificed everything! His world. His FAMILY. His brothers on the Triumvirate. Compared to that, Illidan is nothing.
He also likes to force the hand of fate
One of Blizzards best cinematics ever. Illidan is such a complex and interesting character and Velen seriously looks like he's hiding something. But you can't help but want to have faith in the light in the same token and commend Velen for wanting to do the same. Just awesome. Well done Blizzard. Love it!!!
That was an interesting conversation between Velen and Illidan. The two having the same goal, but different ideals.
0:21
I like how he steps down the stairs all menacingly just to make a point
1:35 30 minutes into Demon Slaying and Chill and he gives you this look.
I am quite surprised to see all this...this SURPRISE, and disdain for
Illidan's behavior in the cinematic. People are now saying how dickish
he acts, and berating him for his rudeness towards the prophet.
Meanwhile im looking at everyone like, "Uh... What did you THINK he was
like???" Nothing was out of ordinary for me. THIS is Illidan! While
everyone got so caught up in the 'Illidan-can-do-no-wrong' hype, they
seem to have forgotten who Illidan is. He is not, and has never been, a
goody-good guy. Those dickish tendencies have been there from the jump.
That bravado, that arrogance, that sneer. Yep, perfectly normal to me.
What, you thought he was gonna walk down all respectful like "Ah, the
wise Velen. It is an honor to fight beside the great proph-" NO!!! He's
never been that way. Hate to snap you guys back to reality, but allow me
to re-introduce you to the Illidan Stormrage the rest of us knew from
the beginning.
Oh god, I would give this Comment a thousand Thumbs-Up if I could.
You nailed it. All of us who knew Illidan from the old days were pretty much waiting for this.
This is how he is SUPPOSED TO BE. If they suddenly had him turn to the Light I would have lost faith in Blizzard. It will never happen.
Illidan is what most people is inside, but we dont show it because we are afraid about others could say about us, he has the balls...
THE TRUTH. from the books to literally everything he has been in, he has ALWAYS been like this. don’t know how anyone assumed differently lmao
im late to the party bro... when isaw him in the WC3 i knew he was special man... i was pissed when they killed him off in BC and was HAPPY AF when i found out he is being brought back in legion. look at the rest of the puppets that hold illidan in disdain. those the ones when something happens in this nation... would stand by and do nothing.
The legion! The legion, dude! it will go down in history. Such an amazing expansion. Come on, Blizz. Don't let us down with the next one, as you did with BfA. Give us what we want. GIVE US MORE EPIC!
They've corrupted themself,sadly
hahaha they just ruined another expansion!
I love how Illidan walks in ^^ 0:19
Illidan with that constant Littlefinger smirk
Illidan's telling Velen everything he's needed to hear forever. Good.
To be fair, Illidan had a good point. He's mostly hated for being snotty here, but Illidan was %100 right in criticizing him, He could have stopped ALL those events, but just watched and ran.
Dark Paladin Yeah except he can't. If you even bother to read the book, he tried to convinced both Kiljaeden and Archimonde but they don't care. They know what Sargeras up to but they were obsessed with power.
Second of all, he can't fight both Archimonde and Kiljaeden plus Sargeras. That would have been, not it is, suicide. The light told him to run and fight another day. If wasn't for him, then all of these event won't happened. You won't have a resistance strong enough to beat Sargeras and legion win.
No he couldn't, and the chastising isn't entirely fair. But Illidan is right on calling out Velen's blind adherence to the Light.
I think those events happened couse he knew about the future, and if he changes it, it could be worst...
Illidan and Velen endet up being really cool together. What a shame they Illidan stayed behind
I started WoW at Cataclysm. Legion was the best expansion I ever played. Good hopes with Shadowlands
What did you think of Battle For Azeroth?
The voice acting is amazing, the way Ramuul says "prophet" in full doubt almost gave me goosepumps.
1:40
Get you a boyfriend who looks at you the same Illidan looks at Velen
Young Velen looks like Squidward if he took testosterone pills.
I think he kind of looks like Jafar, with his red clothes and black hair x) Its funny cuz he also looks like he'd be the most sarcastic out of the three of them.
The most spectacular extension since Lich King
Illidan is like a best friend who tells you the painful things but the truth,
From the first day I played Warcraft, I'd have never predicted that the series would evolve into waging a cosmic war against an infinite army of demons on their decrepit homeworld.
I love this series.
Ive never seen illidan smile like that...
Velen: You'll never understand what I did to save my people.
Illidan, who joined up with the legion to help his people, became hated for it, the girl he likes married his brother, he was imprisoned on multiple occasions and even banished at one point, tried to kill Arthas for the common good but was stopped by the good guys, created an entire faction in order to save Azeroth, was nearly killed and then nearly possessed by the dark titan, who has a warden CONSTANTLY chasing after him trying to kill/imprison him, all in the name of saving Azeroth and defeating the Burning Legion: Oh, I won't understand your sacrifice? Cute.
thanks for this! going back to watch this again because my audio was off for some reason! lol
Loved this dialogue. Illidan and Velen are both trying to do the same thing but have taken different routes entirely. No wonder they have trouble working together.
at 2:56 i imagined illidan to say 'YOU ARE NOT PREPARED!'
"You will never understand what I did to save my people" -remembers when alternate Velen sacrificed himself to the light in order to aid his people against the orc invasion
The feels man
Then the people turns into genocidal maniacs who basically become Scarlet Crusade 2.0
@@CIAinTaiwanAndUkraine well iron horde pretty much deserved it, at least draenei gives them a chance to serve the light while Orcs was in the intent of genociding them.
@@strider8662 Iron Horde, maybe. The Frostwolves sure didn't though. And I'm pretty sure Velen would have been horrified at what Yrel turned his people into.
@@Beljeth Wish we got a chance to fight Yrel in the scenario. Hope we can in the future, hate her even in HoTS
Yayyy people are finally listening to Illidan, the only one with the balls to do what needs to be done, ahaha Ysera come look at th-......oh.......yea.
Ouch.
The comment was perfect, and then I saw the pseudo. Extra perfect.
Dunno why but Illidan smiling is so satisfying
He needs to go see a dentist, I thought elf were so pose to be handsome even demon elfs.
My two favourite men! My Prophet and my antihero.
Velen: We make our stand! The last battle for Argus... has begun.
Soldier: Great, but those aren't orders, sir... Are we gonna let them hit us? No shield or maybe moving the ship out of line of fire?
Tbh, I kind of had a fangirl moment at Illidan's smirks and sassy remarks.
Illidan showing off his Little-fingers skillz
I'm so glad to see Illidan being done justice as an involved character after BC. ^_^
I loved how illidan said where is your army of the light ? xD
0:37 man .... THAT'S BADASS
"the legion will attack soon what are your order prophet"
velen:(look to illidan)
illidan:what ? WHAT !?
Velen: You will never understand what I did to save my people!
Illidan: You were not prepared!
0:57 Pre-corrupted Archimonde and Kiljaeden and a younger Velen. OMG !
0:45 THE BEST FACE EVER MADE IN HISTORY OF GAMING
*Have people here actually followed the actual lore where Velen tried to convince Archimonde + Kil 'Jaeden to stop joining Sargeras but they flat out refused to listen because of their quest for power?! Resisting is one thing, going on a suicide mission is a whole different thing! Velen chose to fight another day, when the time is right and he has enough support to take out this burning crusade!*
Velen should still shut up about the Light and destiny. And he did - At the end he be like "Our survival was never in fate's hands"
Didnt the worlds the draenei leave behind do kinda terrible due to the Legion following them? That's still alot of innocent lives lost for "fighting another day"
@@SnillhundReal I mean, had he not done that, the Legion would've won. Victory was ever only possibly because of the Draenei arriving on Azeroth.
Illadan is now one of my fav freaking chars ever! tysm for actually giving him brilliant char development!!!
0:21
And here we have Illidan being ominous
Velen: You will never understand what I did to save my people
Illidan: I've sacrificed everything, what have you given?
From fighting boars, to killing The Lich King, then the Iron Horde, some demons after that and now a freaking planet's titan...
It only took him some tries but finally Velen has managed to space travel without crashing into the planet he aims for.
0:46. That grin ;)
Khadgar is like 10 times younger then the other two but he feels like he is looking after children :D
This new starcraft expac looks awesome.
Illadin and Velen was a brohood no-one knew they needed, but were so glad they got.
starcraft 3 looks amazing!
I swear if illidan betrays us.
He better not! I've put so much faith in the man...my heart will honestly be crushed.
I feel like he will join sargeras when we get to him.
nope. I know the ending and it's 100% the opposite;)
He won't.
It's already leaked what happens dickheads he becomes the jailer of Sargeras and sacrifices himself eternally for us.
Everybody else calling Illidan as betrayer, but why is he the only one who're making sense?
I really hope they don't go overboard with Illidan.
It's nice that we're finally getting an honest "redemption" story out of WoW. Warcraft lore is full of good people who become monsters, heroes who become villains, but we rarely see a fallen hero redeem themselves, or have a villain turn to the side of good.
Illidan was always an interesting and complex character in WoW, someone who tried to do good but whose hubris, greed, arrogance, jealousy and personal weaknesses often had him seek out power to build himself up. He wanted to be a hero but kept judging himself against his brother, who was more at peace with himself.
Illidan seemed to settle into anti-hero territory, often doing bad things to try and achieve a good end, or succumbing to his temptations for power. "Burning Crusade" did him a terrible injustice, and his return was a welcome one.
That said . . . "Illidan was always right" is just as bad as "Illidan was a cackling supervillain". Illidan is intelligent, dedicated, crafty and powerful, with a unique insight into the working of magic and demons. However, he's got little to know true knowledge of the Light and its followers. He's got no business telling Priests and Paladins that their faith makes them weak or mistaken.
One of the nice things about WoW was that the Light was always an unambiguous force for good. I really don't want to see it turned into something ambiguous. Followers of the Light can be mistaken, can be corrupted, can be in the wrong. The Light should not.
I don't want Illidan to become a know it all Mary Sue anymore than I wanted him to be a mustache twirling bad guy. The other heroes should not be looking to him for approval, and he should not be presuming to tell someone like Velen his business.
TFW whoever wrote Illidan's dialogue wants you to take the line about Velen failing his people and getting them all killed seriously after we had to sit through a dozen boring quests in which Illidan *literally murders his own comrades-in-arms* and *steals their life-essence to empower his magic* for "the greater good"...
It WAS for the greater good. He wasn't going to be able to beat the legion otherwise, and if he hadn't they were all going to die anyway. Illidan knew better than the others there that there was no value in going down fighting, they were the only thing standing between the legion and everything else. Illidan was and is willing to make ugly decisions because feel-good actions are not going to win the war.
@@belad0nna Stealing the Dragon Soul from Malfurion and giving it to Azshara for her to stabilize the portal was TOTALLY for the greater good. /sarcasm
That was stupid. Illidan's a complete idiot and the retcon is just plain nonsense. Broxigar had nothing but contempt for Illidan because Illidan was a smug, abusive, arrogant prick who got off on torturing people with magic, like when he burned Broxigar's fingers when he was no threat. Or betrayed Malfurion in the way I mentioned. Illidan was an arcane addict who couldn't bear the thought of being without mana, which is why he stole the Dragon Soul to give to Azshara. It's also why he created a brand new (if smaller) Well of Eternity despite the Well being a frigging BEACON to the Legion to begin with, because the Legion found Azeroth the first time (sorta) because of all the arcane energy. It's why we had to stop Malygos when he was (initially) building up all the arcane energy of the world in the Nexus, before he decided to reroute it all to the Azure Dragonshrine so he could destroy all who resisted him with Mana Elementals popping up. It would've had the other result of calling the Legion back to Azeroth.
gotta love how Khadgar in the final shot just stands there behind Velen/Illidan hoping to drop a line aswell.
Well, Velen. You're talking to the guy that has sacrificed everything....
0:56 I'm going to go with Kil'jaeden being on the left, with the longer hair, and Archimonde on the right with less hair and the signature back decoration obscuring the back of his head. It took a while considering the traits I most associate with KJ are big ol' horns, red skin, thorns on his face, and the small beard.
I'm not going to lie, i despise what they did to Illidan in legion but this cinematic here I can't help but love Illidan so much. This is the only cinematic where you have a normal conversation between Velen and Illidan instead of this wannabe one liner edgy bullshit we see every time Illidan speak because he think he some kind of god. The smirky Illidan remind me a lot of my favorite character from other franchise and I can't just help but love it.
Thinh Vo After this cinematic, I finally feel again how badass Illidan is, too bad he will not have a happy end---- oops I said to much....
I have always seen Illidan as a Chaotic Good/Lawful Evil character. Doing whatever it takes to stop the thing that's killing his people and threatening the planet... I don't blame him for becoming bitter during BC. If anything, it has opened our eyes for the threat. Without Illidan in the Tomb of Sargeras, we wouldn't go to Argus to "end it" once and for all; because of his nature. Illidan, number one for character development (from the books into the game) for me :)
Thinh Vo illidan own god
dianna k Don't think so ... Don't wonna spoil the ending
Illidan sacrifices himself eternally to destroy Sargeras. Patch is already released on the PTR, lots of people found out by now.
I love that ending:
Illidan: Pssh, where is your army of the light?
Velen: Right here! They're here to save us!
* BOOM!!! *
Velen: Nevermind, we're here to save them!
I miss legion so much ;(
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Illidan has huge balls
I really miss Vashj (or kael'thas) on Illidan's side.
Kael was wasted. Vashj is Mary Sue
I love the high heel wearing sassy Illidan
Guess Velen is starting to understand why Malfurion, Illidan's own brother locked him up for 10 000 years.
Quite.*
Only if he's as blind as Malfurion. He can be all righteous as he likes, but Malfurion is directly responsible for Ysera's demise.
EPIC! YES!!! Love WoW cinematics! They get better and better!!