Is BattleTech's Beginner Box worth it? | Unboxing & Review
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- Today we take a look at the updated BattleTech tabletop board game's "Beginner Box" to find out whether it’s a worthwhile introduction to this world of massive Mechs, or if it leaves MechWarriors saying, “meh”. Because in the 30th century, life is cheap... but BattleMechs aren't.
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In this unboxing, we'll review the BattleTech Beginner Box tabletop board game. BattleTech is a tactical wargame in which players command squads of warriors who pilot various giant war machines called Battle Mechs. The game system includes details such as varying weapon ranges, heat generation, and specific hit locations - such as torso, head, arms, and leg - each having its own strategic value. The game is typically played on maps featuring pre-printed hex grids, but optional rules for hexless games are also available.
Does “beginner box” mean that it’s watered down, stripping away many of the the technical game mechanisms that provide the core BattleTech tabletop experience? Well, let’s start out by taking a look at what’s included in this Beginner’s Box.
Contents:
12-page Quick Start Rules
Two plastic mech figures
Two six-sided dice
Eight cardboard mech standees
Seven additional terrain tiles featuring light and heavy woods
Booklet with “Golden Rule” book excerpt, glossary, and illustrations
Map of inner sphere with markety content on other side
Two-sided paper map
Four two-sided, color MechWarrior poker-sized cards
Eight color Mech character sheets
So there’s what’s included in the box. But how does the game experience compare to the standard edition? Does the BattleTech Beginner Box board game accomplish its goals of being an accessible introduction to the game system that still faithful to the BattleTech game experience?
Oh, I’d say: it definitely is. In fact, being a “beginner’s” version, I’m surprised that it actually retains nearly all of the technical to-hit look-up tables and roll charts of the standard version. I actually expected many of THOSE mechanisms to have been watered down and simplified. So, I can appreciate that. However, it’s a double-edged sword, as it could be a off-putting to a new player - as these charts and lookup tables do seem to date the gameplay mechanisms a bit.
But, as I mentioned, my apprehension at their presence turned to appreciation because that’s one of the fundamental experiences that BattleTech is all about. The quality of your tactical maneuvering is still going to be somewhat subject to the roll of the dice. You can do your best to improve your odds, but it’s still going to be up to lady luck to determine exactly where on your target that rack of twenty long range missiles you just fired actually lands.
And the Beginner Box does an excellent job of winnowing the minutiae you have to manage down to the essentials. For example, this version of the game doesn’t even include heat, which is a resource you must meticulously manage, lest you and your mech suffer extremely dire consequences - like, exploding in a fatal fireball. But then, I remembered that, back in middle school, when we were learning the game, we rarely tracked our heat anyway. So, it’s like back then we were playing the Beginner Box version of the game anyway. Except now, I can do it without the guilt of playing the game incorrectly. If only sixth grade me knew that one day, one day it would be okay.
They do also throw in just enough to introduce you to the lore of the BattleTech universe. The inclusion of the map and story have no bearing at all on the gameplay - they’re completely unnecessary. Still, they were included to help set the stage. How deeply you dig into them and immerse yourself in the lore of this universe is up to you though, of course. So, your mileage may vary.
If you’re interested in trying out BattleTech, but are worried that you’d be “missing out” on the true experience by going with the Beginner Box, don’t be. There’s plenty in here to get your feet wet, and have a true BattleTech experience.
In my day we had to make our own six siders, by carefully cutting cubes out of potatoes, coloring the pips with markers, and spraying them with urethane.
That’s the way it was and we LIKED IT.
I was so entranced by your video that I hadn't realize this wasn't a review for Battletech PC video game.
That is high praise, indeed. Thank you, Elann. I hope you enjoyed the video, even though it's for BattleTech's tabletop counterpart. :)
Battle Tech (BT) was my gateway drug. Thanks to BT I now have an addiction to giant robots, imaginary explosions, and acrylic paint.
I did not even know this was a thing. Thank you Chaz for sharing this. And know that you will be the reason my nephews are introduced to this hobby.
Great review.
Acrylic paint... What does it smell like or do you prefer eating it, OR do you snort it?
@@NebDaBrush thats a real good question
Tabletop does not have lootboxes or online transactions, no electricity or internet required. And you cannot be banner.
Catalyst's last two manufacturing runs on introductory rules did include sturdy cardboard maps and 26 miniatures each... but they ended up losing money on those sets. If they had to choose between cutting back on the box contents or raising the price, I think they made the smarter choice. A new player would likely prefer a lower and more accessible price point, rather than a whole bunch of cool parts to a game they haven't quite decided on.
The choice of rules to include in the Beginner Box seems like the better call, too. Stacking the basic To-Hit Modifiers is probably the trickiest part of the game to manage, and leaving them in does a better job of getting a new player used to the system than other tactical considerations like firing arcs, critical hits, and heat.
Thanks for the comment, Patrick. And I absolutely agree on both points.
The price point for the GoAC box is meh. Or perhaps I should say a little overpriced. Plastic is very cheap. If it wasn't there wouldn't be so many new games being released with triple or more plastic minis for nearly the same price or slightly more.
There are a TON of board game releases from indie companies, for similar prices, absolutely packed full of plastic and cardboard pieces.
Catalyst was, and still is, very bad at marketing their products. Plus, the game did NOT age well, and really, really badly needs some kind of streamlining in many different areas.
I'm downright shocked they have never attempted to build on some of the foundation concepts of Battletech to either create their own unique IP, or a just simply make a much sexier version of BT.
Alpha Strike is a joke at best, and the fact they are STILL including AS cards, the same IRON WINDS REFERRAL, while reducing both the quality AND quantity of this products contents, does not tell me they have any real intention of standing behind Battletech, or are willing to really do anything with it.
This box feels like it was a direct response to the Hairbrained Schemes game release, hoping SOMEONE ELSE'S PRODUCT would help create more awareness of the Battletech name, because heaven forbid they have to work on, or even pay for that.
Heck, it even emulates many aspects of the visual design ascetic used in the "new" HBR game as well, or am I just old and crotchety?
My introductory set from a few years ago... has the nice sturdy cardboard maps... but came with a huge amount of HORRIBLY casted miniatures. I'm not exaggerating when I say that 1/3 of the miniatures were broken, missing body parts or just so poorly made that you could barely recognize which mech it was. The newer version seems to have WAY better mechs (which is the most important part for me). In Catalyst's defense though... I sent a complaint about the mechs including some pictures and they agreed it was pretty bad... they sent me a bunch of re-design mechs of way higher quality from Battletech: Alpha Strike (which was extremely decent of them I think).
I got one of those sets. Should have grabbed a second set when i had the chance.
An interesting side note: The original BattleTech game, Battledroids, had two plastic mechs in it too. They were the Griffin and Shadow Hawk. Even more interesting is that all three of these mechs came from the same Japanese show: Fang of the Sun Dougram. It also had cardboard playing pieces and terrain tiles, but it also had troops and tanks too.
No heat?!
PPCs, PPCs everywhere.
LOL! I remember doing that very thing when we played as kids. 😄
Nice review of B-Tech. I also started to play this in 8 grade back in late 80's and played it alot. I got my brother involved and we would set up a huge map on the kitchen table and play 5 vs 5.
I played with a group that did 12v12 combined arms.
House Davion rulez. I got into Battletch from Day 1. I have a lot of metal models from back in the day and all the original maps on the stiff paper. I think I just might dive back in.
The beginner box (or quick start rules that are free to download online) also removes piloting skill rolls which also makes is alot easier to teach to young children.
If you already have the other boxset, this boxset is totally worth it. 2 more miniatures (including the missing Griffin miniature), 1 more map sheet with flat terrain, and finally an explanation on how to use pilot cards.
Very nice review - also on the plus side is the price point. At only $20, this is very affordable and might persuade plenty of gamers to give it a try based on the price alone.
This box set is a total win in my book!
I have considered giving it as a gift, for just that reason!
Steiner scout squad.
4 atlus lul
Brilliant video. I was uncertain where to begin. Thanks
They were (in the 1st box set & 1st series of maps) a sturdy cardboard. The reverse (some were colored double sided) was also "hexed & numbered" but with magic markers you could add hills, roads & water of your own design. I still have all of mine & play with them to this day. Thanks for uploading this vid.
Nice review! I love giant robots and I’ve been looking for a tabletop game of the genre to play.
I have played battletech twice after acquiring the original version many years ago.
I might buy this box and never play it. But I will always want to.
If you do get a copy and play it, be sure to share how it goes! :)
Nicely done! I've not gotten any of the new stuff (cos I still have legions of the original BattleTech stuff in storage, including the oldest of old BattleDroids box) but I wondered if it would be something fun to acquire for my weekly D&D gaming group to play in times of DM burnout (just as we used it back in the 80s). I suppose the true test of the game's ease of use and interest would be actually sitting down with your daughter and playing the Beginner Box with her and seeing what she thought, whether you actually made a video of it or not.
Keep on having fun! You've got my subscription. :-)
The red lighting behind you is nice looking, good review :)
Thank you. I've been experimenting with the lighting, so that is nice to hear. :)
YAY! A fellow House Steiner player!
best scout lances in the game, bar none.
House Merrick 4 Lyfe, but I respect my neighbors, even if they have a bad habit of fluctuating between staunch ally and invading the Orionland ;P
@@malachai1381 lloll awesome!
I love your enthusiasm and review! I’m subscribing!
I watched this review after buying the beginner box and realizing there is a core box. Time to get my feet wet with some Battletech! Thank you for the awesome review!
The short story my mate got with his sent me down the road of novel’s since I lived along way from town. The chart point on modifiers is so right but still need to have the heat part.Great vid
A lot of the stuff he points as not being there in terms of rules are present in the core box, such as torso pivoting, mechs having internal structure, the old mech record sheets, and heat is present. The Beginner box lacks a lot of the rules from the core box. I might pick up the Beginner box for the mechs and give the rest to my shop or a friend.
Best review/unboxing I have seen yet, well done!
Thank you, Andrew. I'm glad you enjoyed the video, and I appreciate the kind words.
I have played the game from the days of Battle Droids and I have to say these new box sets are awesome. Even though I have all the stuff except the latest core box set I just ordered mine. As it was less than $15 on Amazon the two awesome premium mechs are well worth the money all by themselves, adding in all the rest of the goodies make this a smart buy, even for multiple copies. As I have all the cut out mechs painted up I can give all the other materials away to a prospective new player.
Great review. Why not use Alpha Strike to introduce BattleTech?
Removing heat in the beginner's box rule set is just too hilarious for me. I remember my start with BattleTech with MechWarrior 4, its CD being included in some magazine (PC Games I believe). I never got the history there, but had fun building some mechs and playing against the KI (yup, never played the campaign as well since I was so young I didn't understand anything, language as well as the history itself since I'm german).
And what did little me do first? Turn off heat in the settings so I can do as much pew-pew as possible without my mech shutting down every two seconds. xD
Yea Great game. Good review. I've got the first BattleTech boxed set that came with the beginners book and the advanced book. Noticed there weren't any water spots on the map which were great for controlling that heat build up. Nothing like your mech shutting down on the field. Looks like a cool set to me.
some of my favorite reviews on this site, keep up the great work!
Thank you, pandafresh. I'll will indeed try to keep up the videos! :)
About halfway through and you just finished with components (including superfluous ones), but I noticed the two Alpha Strike cards were not mentioned. Perhaps it'll be at the end, but definitely is an added plus.
I found myself nodding in agreement while listening to this. Thank you!
Seems they've kept true to the old system. There are 3D hexgrid terrain tabletops set up in man caves all across America because of this game. Great for multiplayer, and easy to explain for noobs. Its fun, interactive, and has a brilliant "sequence of play".
Battletech was my second ever foray into proper gaming (outside the boring life of Milton Bradley et al)...and that was waaaaaay back in the very early 80s. D&D and Battletech were the top two games our table enjoyed and both left an indelible mark on my soul. Loved seeing the inclusion of plastic minis. That's a serious value add. Time for some more Vitamin PPC.
No heat tracking? Are you kidding me, that's the base rule that affects everything in the game!
The starter box I got in 2012 had a 'quick play' version that didn't include Heat Mgmt. The full rules were explained as well, and appropriate stat cards/diagrams were included though.
"battletech fan" channel has a visual guide to learn the rules.Very handy because rules are intimidating.
This sounds like battle tech 2nd edition 'basic rules' ... With a little bit of piloting thrown In.
In some ways my friend and I liked the basic rules good for a quick bout.
A very enjoyable review, Chaz. Right up until your obviously crazy declaration in favour of the Lyran Commonwealth. Everyone knows that House Davion is the rightful successor to the Star League. 😝
Just to note as well, the maps in my original Battletech and Citytech boxes are cardboard, not paper.
Thanks for the review!
SuperMCDad
House or no house I just care that the check clears. Merc all the way
For the glory of Merrick!
Really? Mine from those boxes are paper. Same with the map from the BattleForce box
@@darkstorminc Yep. Second edition Battletech and Citytech boxes by FASA both (at least in my copies) have cardboard maps. I have them sitting in front of me 😁
@Turnip Singularity I will conceed this point 😁
Regarding the maps. I have the edition that came with the nice heavy-cardboard maps (as well as basically every other edition). The problem was it was awkward to lay that one out with the literally hundreds of square feet of vintage paper maps that I'd accrued since the early 90s. So I although it's not as nice a material, I think consistency is important. Otherwise you end up with a "blu ray" situation, where you either just say that you're stopping at DVD, or commit to re-buying your entire collection in the newer/nicer format (assuming they went back and printed the previous mapsets in the heavier stock).
Saw it in my local store a few days ago... going to buy it this weekend 20$ is pretty cheap and the models look nice... going to paint them too!
Bought the box and thought, maybe the kids of my girlfriend would like it...
And actually, they love it! I have to play battletech with them non stop :-D
Are they your kids yet? 🤠.
When you see our crazy world, all the chaos of Battletech universe looks like utopia, starting from the fact that a destroyed mech is a sculpted token that can be repaired by erasing armor marks in a record sheet. That makes accounting seems harder than repairing mechs on a sheet of paper.
Federated Suns for the Win!!!
6:11 wrong fist, lol
but Yes House Steiner
I bought the standard edition, A game of armored combat. The mech record sheets includes Griffin and there is no plastic mech of Griffin. So I decided I would go for beginners box to have that mech and an extra Wolverine, 2 extra maps, and mechwarrior cards. Will that justify the price? When Mechwarrior 2 was out in 1995 I got the trilogy. Then there was a chance to buy Titanium Trilogy and I did not even have a 3D accelerator card. And when I saw it it was a disappointment because the game engine distorted the game experience and later it was almost impossible to run because of compatibility issues with newer Windows. And yet I am glad I bought it, because there is a juicy game manual with plenty of mech specs.
So beginners box is fine because plastic mechs usually would cost $10 and there were extra maps and cards. So I feel it is still worth it. Getting plastic mechs is very hard nowadays.
great video very informative . My introduction to battletech universe was way back in 1994 In the form of MechWarrior 3050 on the super Nintendo and is one of the reasons I love giant mechs though robotech is the biggest influence for me. As for MechWarrior 3050 that game is why I love madcats so much and is my favourite much . I have done warhammer 40:000 for 20 odd years and love space marines (whole reason I do 40k) but have recently wanted to try something different and I was looking into battle tech and found this video. I'm a big builder and painter and looking at the models in this set I got super excited and ordered the box right away, I look forward to learning the game and diving into the rich deep lore because I love the fiction stuff I also may have bought a resculpt of the mad cat in metal though as far as I know is an Omni clan mech so not sure when I can use it just looking forward to painting it .Sorry for the long post just wanted to say thanks for the video and letting you know you have made me jump into the battle tech universe . Cadet Mech warrior reporting for duty. :)
I have purchased both the introductory box and A Game of Armored Combat. I think the big thing for me was that the introductory box has a new Griffin Mech that is not included in A Game of Armored Combat.
Sweet Tom Servo shirt!!!
Clan Invasion second wave is enabled.
If you teach your kids to collect Battletech I can assure you that Clan Invasion will leave them without money for drugs.
Indeed you may need to delay buying a new car if you want all the mechs and maps.
Great review! Thank you 🙂
I'm glad you found it helpful, Timothy! Thanks for posting a comment. 😀
Battletech has a massive accessibility problem that needs a 3rd alternative, rebuilt ruleset that's compatible with current tokens. There's a way to reduce complications without losing complexity. Complications increase gametime to the point where a single match can be a slog. Say what you want about Dark Age, but you could move those matches along very quickly.
The big problem now is it's super hard to get one's hands on this beginner box!
I played it a few times with a friend that was super into it. I remember it being pretty awesome and the video game version they have at Gen Con where you are in the pods are epic. :) Did you actually play it with your daughter? Did she like it?
Very nice examination! Are the pilot cards in the larger box as well? Are they something that can be used now in the complete game. They are an interesting new addition.
Yep, the larger box has its own set of pilot cards, and Alpha Strike cards for the mechs in both boxes, too.
The original Battletech and Citytech came with thicker, laminated card maps.
Thank you for the correction. The more I think about it, the more I think I remember that they were indeed thicker. Apologies for my mistake in the video! :o
which mechs do you get in the box i dont see any mechs that i remember, are there no assault mechs? are there any clan mechs? the biggest problem with the battletech game was that they only sold the best mechs as expansions. do you get any of the iconic mechs? like the warhammer or the axeman or the awesome or the mad cat or nova cat or the vulture?
The Beginner Box includes a plastic Wolverine and Griffon. The cardboard ones are 2 Thunderbolts, 2 Griffons, 2 Locusts, and 2 Wolverines. I agree that I would have loved to have seen some more variety. A Crusader (one of my other favorites), Phoenix Hawk, Marauder, or a Rifleman, or even a Hunchback. Gotta love those AC 20s.
The Awesome and Battlemaster are in the other box. But you also have metal minis from IWM. There are tons of them so choices aren't limited for those who get into the game.
The assortment in these boxes is unusual because for many of these mechs, it's the first time they've been represented in official BattleTech product since a whole lot of legal worries back in the '90s (many of them were licensed from anime for the very first edition of the game), being redesigned just enough to avoid any further issues. Only the Awesome, Catapult, and Commando are repeats from the last few editions, but they're newer and more modernized sculpts.
And just to be clear, you don't actually NEED the miniatures to play the game. Like the cardboard tokens suggest, you can use anything that fits into a 1" hex and has an agreed-upon "front" side to represent a mech. The miniatures are just cooler.
I wish it came with a Steiner Scout Squad
It’s beyond me why this universe haven’t got a proper tv series or film. Game of thrones for example it’s peanuts compared with the amount or scope of the story/characters that Battletech have.
Ooh, that's a good idea. I could BT lending itself to a great, in-depth space opera, along the lines of The Expanse. Oh yeah, I'd watch that. 👍
I loved the cartoon as a kid. That (and it's appearance on the Sega Megadrive) were what made me notice it as a kid in the UK.
I wish the cartoon carried on past the first series =(
Jose Ibanez
I’d watch.
It looks as if no dice were included to make the rolls that is a part of the game. Do either of them? I would think the beginner box would have had that. Great review BTW!
Ah! Yes, 2 six-sided dice were included. They were the very last thing during the "unboxing" scene, but I see I cut the end of that footage off, so it didn't show the dice being in the box. I apologize for the confusion. But I'm happy to say they're in there!
@@GameNightPicks So the BattleTech games only use six sided dice for all the calculations?
@@NightRunner9 Yes, 2d6 is used for most of the calculations; everything from hit location, to pilot injury, to number of missiles that find their mark.
@@NightRunner9 Yes. Even the current edition of the RPG. BT never used anything else, but some of the older RPG editions used D10.
it's worth it!the price well go up more
I was really irked when I found out the base game didn't include rules for heat. Pain in the butt that it was heat management was one of the game's core concepts. It had a huge impact on your tactics. Also the charts aren't so bad when you consider the really low unit count. Most games I played were at the lance level (4 mechs to a side). Trying to play at the company level was agony but at that point your kind of breaking the game.
Just an fyi. The original battle tech and city tech came with cardboard maps.
Thank you for the correction. I was searching my memory banks, and I do think I now recall the maps being made of a thicker cardboard than the current ones. Rats, my mistake!
Too bad the base set is rare as hell now. It’s about 200 bucks on EBay!
Why this comes up in my feed a year after release idk, but how went playing BT with your playing partner?
The only reason i buy is the Battlemaster, nothing else.
a cheap paper map should be a negative..
actually, no. the number of different maps that this game has would be overwhelming if they were all full size cardboard maps. They'd be hard to store, difficult to carry to the game store or friends joint, and pricey. The paper ones are just fine.
After looking at my huge stack of mounted ASL maps...paper is a good thing. They've been mostly paper for years
They need a Jr rules book. I way 10 year old to play that and Warhammer 40K.
This basically is the Jr rules version
10:52 yup YUP!
Idk use to call battletech=battlepaperwork still looks like it.
I love me a good yummy Tyranid
Nice shirt! :D
I'm surprised harmony gold isn't jumping this companies shit for the macross mecha.
5:23 True you could be a fossil, or battletech could have just stalled nearly out of existence thanks to Harmony Gold....... oh wait....
Lets be fair, BT far outlived HG.
But lets be real, BT stalled because of Mechwarrior: Dark Age and the blunder that was WoTC's ownership even if it was a brief period.
Did your daughter like battletech? Mine is in 6th grade. But wants nothing to do with it.
I've only showed her an overview at this point, but I'm hoping to sit down and teach it to her in a mini-campaign within the next couple weeks. :D
@@GameNightPicks Cool. Would be interesting to hear how it goes. Also, how does the new version compare to the original 1984 edition?
Lastly, was my brother and I the only ones that used acetate binder pages to put over the photocopied mech sheets and use overhead markers to record damage and heat?
@@g8kpr3000 yes only you. I would print 50 copies of the blank sheet at a time. =)
Which era of House Steiner? Because Catherine Steiner is an awful family murdering, backstabbing, horrible witch and personally I lost all respect for the Lyran Alliance after Melissa's death.
The, uh... _best_ era? To be honest, I first picked Steiner waaaaay back before I knew much of anything about the lore and history. Back then, I chose it because... I liked its logo best. (And because it wasn't Kurita. Because even I have standards.) 😉
@@michaelmclaughlin261 Piss on us eh? At least we still exist.
Kill Team's to-hit look-up tables? What's even that. There's 2 modifiers in total:
Obscured - +1
Long Range - +1
Done.
WTF man...
My biggest gripe though is how the models are made of elastic plastic instead of hard polystyrene and that they come glued/pre-assembled but not painted. What's the point then... If it's about not having to need any extra work or materials - just make them snap-fit... It's a niche game anyway and there's a lot of people who buy these with an intent of working on the models and it's just making the experience miserable.
What does the full game add?
Christopher Detlef heat, torso twist and inner structure for a start
8 miniatures
Christopher: To help answer your question, I've posted a new video that shows what the full game adds. It's at: ua-cam.com/video/IVNvKMdgo60/v-deo.html I hope this is helpful! 🙂
@@GameNightPicks A video just for me? ;) That's awesome thanks.
More maps is better than quality maps, why is FASA Corp so stingy with maps?
Wow. They really dumbed this down...there's apps to track all of the harder stuff
I have play Bt and bta and it's still the same slow boring game as it was the first time I played it in the 80's. The game needs rules to fit some where between BT and BTA. I love the hit loc in BT but not a fan of all the dag paper work. Oh my god the paper work. But on the other hand BTA you lose everything that is BT. I almost would love a BT game like Ogre (SJ). If the core game remade the shoot, movement and heat, more like 40K 8th that would be super fun and smoother.
But then you'd lose all the character that makes battletech, well, battletech. Alpha strike is your only option for simpler battletech.
So instead of a mini novel, just swap out the standees for actual minis.... cool concept but rare, because ppl arnt really into it. My opinion obviously. ^^
6:11 which i highly recomened swearing complete alegience too *does thing with hand*.... The wrong hand Complete my but
*laughs in Star Fleet Battles*
"basic" is pretty relative I guess. I mean people still play checkers--you know?
Chart games take me out of the game. I like AoS more than games like KillTeams headache
wtf is up with the cardboard game pieces. So cheap!
Oh! It's not the complete game.
Still think this game is best as a first person video game. Even the arcade versions where you sit inside a pod that has levers, pedals and such, shaking and creating static on screen as damage is sustained, is more immersive.
Reactor Online. Sensors Online. Weapons Online. All Systems Nominal.
The system was never so complex that any previous edition needed a hand-holding beginner edition.....our society has become far less intelligent, it is evident as we seem to desire baby basic, and insulting products like this one. I do not suggest this version of the game at all. It is a complete waste of money.
Those quick start rules have existed for a long long time, they weren't invented for this beginners box, though likely laid out better. They're a good way to play your first few games before diving into the full rules.
Actually, beginner's rules have existed for a long time. The edition I own, bought in the early 90s, have them, almost like that, no inner structure, no torso moviment.
I don't think stupidty is the driving factor. What I do think is a factor is speed of game play vs mobile and consoles. To get new players those are the competition, and that i think is what drives down the complexity of rules.
I think catalyst should get an app to go along with Btech, whether mech design or doing to hit numbers..
There is a reason this game is pretty much dead.
Are you so sure about this? IIRC, BattleTech, 2nd Edition had a whole section in it where you were taught to operate the Chameleon mech (an advanced trainer mech in the fluff) using a stripped down version of the rules that weren't a whole lot different from this.
Where are the Clan mechs?