Japanese vs Swiss Watches | Are Swiss Made Watches Really Better?
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- In this video i discuss about Swiss and Japanese watches. And which country i think makes the best watches.
Amazon links to some great watches:
Seiko SARB017 Alpinist: amzn.to/2uFdner
Seiko SARB033: amzn.to/2uANrR7
Seiko SARB035: amzn.to/2uGqn3g
Seiko SARB065: amzn.to/2up2qhS
Seiko SKX007: amzn.to/2zM47ek
Seiko SKX009: amzn.to/2uHdE0y
Seiko SKX013: amzn.to/2Lq9Zvf
Seiko SNK809: amzn.to/2JtGkPN
Orient Star Classic: amzn.to/2Lg3xdb
Orient Ray II Black: amzn.to/2NT1tGB
Orient Mako II: amzn.to/2ut4d5p
Orient Bambino Cream: amzn.to/2JsvpFS
Orient Bambino Blue: amzn.to/2Jt3I01
Hamilton Khaki Field Auto: amzn.to/2urRaRQ
Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical: amzn.to/2ur2y0h
Hamilton Intra-Matic Black: amzn.to/2Jsx9Pq
Hamilton Intra-Matic Silver: amzn.to/2JsOSpX
Zodiac Sea Wolf: amzn.to/2uy0nrV
Citizen NH8350 Blue: amzn.to/2zQe8Y2
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Remember that this is my opinion and that there is no definitive answer to this question.
Watches in the video:
Frederique Constant Slimline FC710S4S6
Citizen NH8350-83L
Steinhart Ocean Titanium 500 Premium
Seiko SARB017
Orient Mako USA II
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I always fall back to my father's advice - he, his father and his brother (sadly all gone now) were all watchmakers by trade and understood quality of manufacture. My father always spoke of the superb quality of Seiko despite working on all makes including Rolex, Omega (which he also respected greatly) etc. - he chose Japanese. Many confuse prestige with quality - they aren't the same. Seiko for my and my pops.
As an engineer who has spent plenty of time in Switzerland, and who knows the watch industry intimately, I respectfully disagree with you.
No nation can ever duplicate the Swiss national "Culture of Quality" in everything they do. It is just as simple as that!
Alex P I understand your point but culture does not necessarily deliver. He's gone now but my father spent his life dismantling, fixing and reassembling watches. I have to respect his hands on life's experience of watches from all over the world. He understood the minute detail of the watches, not the industry or its culture.
With respect, you simply cannot compare a fine handmade watch with one that is essentially stamped out by machines. The minute details of the movement, case, and overall execution speak volumes.
Much lIke anything in life, the last 5% of an excellent job most likely represents about 50% of the effort. That makes the difference between a superior job versus a paramount one.
Overall, there is a huge difference in manufacturers. Rolex produces over 1M movements per year, while Patek produces no more than 60K, and that seems like a great deal to me.
I am an amateur watchmaker myself. Thank you.
We'll have to agree to differ, I'll trust my father's lifetime as a professional watchmaker who worked on all makes, including Rolex. He was trained by his father who was also a professional watchmaker from WW1 onwards. He always held a candle for Seiko quality at a 20th of the cost of a Rolex.
Dear Mark,
If you had the opportunity to spend much time in Switzerland as I have been fortunate to do, I believe you would think slightly differently. The Swiss embrace what I term, "A Culture of Quality" that cannot be equaled elsewhere.
As a person who loves working with their hands and appreciates fine quality and craftsmanship, there is a significant difference. I've visited Japan many years ago. I was greatly impressed by their ability to produce top quality products consistently, especially in the area of electronics. I overwhelmingly prefer Sony televisions and computers because I have never had one ever break down! The PC I'm using is about 14 years old, and still going strong. My CRT TV is about 25 years old, and there's no sense in replacing it until it gives up the ghost. I may be stuck with that thing for the rest of my life!
Please allow me to share that watches are a different commodity. As an enthusiast since my teenage years, there is more to a fine Swiss timepiece than the sum of its parts. It is the amazing people that create such miniature works of mechanical engineering that inspire me in my daily life and work. People require inspiration of those who are at the best of their profession. I found early on by my many visits to Swiss watch factories.
There is a huge difference in the amount of attention to detail in a Patek, VC, Piaget or Audemars than found in any competing model. The exquisite finishing of movement parts for example, that few will ever see, is a prime example. You will never find that in a Seiko or Rolex.
You were truly fortunate to be able to learn about quality and craftsmanship from your father. My late dad was an oral surgeon, and he too loved to work with his hands. I believe I gained my appreciation and inspiration from him. In any event, find what inspires you to do the best you are able. There are few things more important in life than taking personal satisfaction from a job well done!
All the best!
Japanese made watchs which revolutionized watch industry which was affordable for all . We need to thank Japanese for their work. Thank you Japan. Love from India.
The swiss have also revolutionized watches but are far more expensive than Japanese watches. There is also more variety within the swiss industry.
But brands like Seiko coming out of japan are top notch. DO not forget german brands as well.
@@bighands69 Seiko is shit now, my Sarb017 accuracy is all over the place, gonna sell it, don't want to repair it since is may damage it more now.
So you have one example of a Seiko and they're all shit? With swiss watches I've had damaged rotors, stems completely come out, misaligned day wheels, accuracy issues, etc. But the swiss stuff is all good IMO, most of the time I still prefer swiss.
Maybe a cheap quartz is more suited to you
Absolutely, not just watches but cars like Lexus, Honda and brands like Technics, Sony, Yamaha, Suzuki, Kawasaki, Denon, Koetsu the list goes on...
@@SacreDro I have the same movement in a Sarx055 - gains about 40 secs a week.
In my personal opinion, the value of Swiss watches is more reflected in brand stories and art, while the value of Japanese watches is more technical and industrial. Japanese watches are made for most people, while Swiss watches are more For a small number of people's vanity,Watches in two countries have different approaches on business
With a Japanese watch you can be sure you'll never miss a train, extremely accurate. With a swiss watch well...good look.
Fun fact. Swiss watch making came into its stride making forgeries of British and French pocket watches in the 18th century. Referred to as "Dutch forgery". Cheap outsold expensive. In more modern times, world war 2 helped cement the Swiss as leaders in relation to quality watches. Not joining the war their factories were in tip top condition and various forms of "wealth" distributed into Swiss banks during and after the war, allowed said banks to provide favourable loans to Swiss watch companies to expand. In short some Japanese watches are better that Swiss and some Swiss watches better than Japanese. Regardless a $30 quartz will keep better time than 99% of mechanical watches.
The Seiko is absolutely beautiful.
As a collector, I like Swiss watches. My grandfather who got me interested in watch collecting collected Japanese watches. A brand like Rolex will maintain its price and often most models will increase in value over time. Now this maybe because Rolex artificially sets its market price and limiting the number of watches that it makes and provides its dealers, like DeBeers for diamonds. Rolex dealers are strictly controlled and often authorized dealers are not allowed to give discounts. Seiko, on the other hand, is a great watch for the every day man that can't afford a high end Swiss watch. I have Seiko watches that are over 50 years old and running like new. The Japanese culture takes great pride and honor in their craftsmanship, whether it is production of electronics, cars, so why not watches too.
That appears the only excuse I hear for Rolex anymore. They will hold their price. I want a watch to wear not look at in a box.
Japanese all day.....
Rolex watches do not always increase in value. Many of them are old farts that cannot be sold at even half the price, it all depends, i personally wouldn’t want to buy a secondhand watch for more than the brand new one.
@@tawansrithrachaikul4573 I don’t disagree. It all depends on condition, rarity, and collectibility. I’ve seen some that have been so abused, you can’t even tell it’s a Rolex.
@KJM Swiss watches are like German luxury cars. It turns heads on the streets and gives you that “privileged” feeling but for reliability you have to go with a Japanese car. I have 2 BMWs and a Toyota, the Toyota is my daily run-about car. Regarding watches, I’m a collector. My daily wearer is now an Apple Watch that my daughter gave me for my birthday. Most of the high-end watches I own mostly stay in a safe.
I have a Seiko 5 I bought new for £30 in 1975 which has never been serviced and still gives great time accuracy today. I have a Rolex sub date which I bought new for £2,000 in 1983 which was serviced after ten years (£100) and now needs servicing again (it has stopped working) and I have been told it will cost £600! Japanese every time for reliability.
Rolex are of a higher quality than the average japanese watch. Just because a toyota lasts longer than say a Mercedes or Rolls Royce does not mean it is a car of higher quality it means it is more reliable.
Rolex watches would also be far more comfortable to wear than the likes of a Seiko.
Who buys a Rolex and doesn't service it within the recommended intervals and then complains about it?
Have you put the Seiko on timegrapher? My bet is that even though it is running well, it's probably running dry (oils dried up). This will be evident by the amount of noise on the timegrapher.
So why would a Rolex be more comfortable to wear then a Seiko? Makes no sense whatsoever!!
+Nathan C
Seriously ask your self this question would a $50 Seiko be more comfortable than a Rolex (notice I did not say Grand).
Bryn Smart I had the same problem with a Submariner Rolex got rid of it conked out on me even after Servicing. I grew up with a cheap kick around Seiko dive watch that lasted 40 years.
My question is for everybody how is Rolex Superior if you have to keep servicing them every 3-4 years at $600 a pop.
I love my citizen watch, more than 10 years still working good
Swiss watches are just generally more expensive. What's amusing about Japanese watches is how they are able to give you very very good watches for a lot less money. Swiss watches, while I respect them, are a bit overrated and too pricey.
It like comparing a Mercedes vs Toyota.
@Péter Horváth Whats your point?
Japanese brands fix their prices accirding to how much spend to create their time peaces but swiss companies increases the price to create the demand of piece and just to create the brand name and they didnot even manufacture their movements.
@Michal Nazareth My friend. You are commenting after a year? Dayum bro.
@Michal Nazareth Also Mitsubishi is the same quality as Toyota if not worse. Obviously Mercedes is more high end. But the point here is that swiss made watches are more high end also. But japanese watches could give you the same reliability and almost same quality as the swiss made watches for less money. Thats why im putting the example with the 2 car brands.
I love both! As a owner off a Rolex sub, a Omega Speedmaster and a Seiko MM300 the Seiko is the watch i enjoy wearing the most, and has been on many dives with me and has been a pure joy to use! Price has no relevance to enjoyment or wrist time for me but we are all different....
I love both manufacturers but you can't beat the luxurious feel of a swiss watch.
Honestly you're one of the best reviewers on UA-cam when it comes to watches. Better than everyone, thanks to your focus on affordables. I bought the Citizen sunburst blue you have in this video, and also an Alpinist (not at the same time, and not actually because of your videos, but your videos were great in this regard anyway).
Keep doing this. You are doing mankind a service. Seriously. The best channel about watches for us mere mortals who don't want to spend 5k on a Rolex but would rather have a diverse collection of quality watches.
+Tayyab Pirzada Thank you, i really appreciate it!
It's because of comments like yours i want to keep producing the best videos i can.
I really like watches that offer something unique and a lot of value for you money. And i want to share this with you guys. Most people can't or wont spend $5k+ on a watch, and I want to show that there are fantastic watches that doesn't cost a fortune out there.
Thanks again.
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GAW
Seiko is in essence a JAPANESE Rolex. The watch cannot be destroyed..... I have a grand seiko with in house movement from the early 70's. Never had to be serviced and is accurate to 1/4 0f a second.
Agree with you completly. Many thanks GAW!
@TayyabPrizada - Good Interesting Reply/review & you're correct in your Statement as well.
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Japanese watches r best... my love to seiko casio.
Very informative. Very nice choice of watches. I'd like to have all of them. I figured out your video editing by looking at the second hands.
I really loved ur reviews, it's just enjoyable
Thanks for this video. I enjoyed it.
Thank you for the post my friend! Very informative... I agree with you...
God bless and take care...
Thank you very with!
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I have a Citizen Eco-Drive chronograph and a Swiss Military Hanowa chronograph in my collection. The Hanowa looks classy while the Citizen is pretty much a sporty watch. Thing is though, the Citizen far outshines the Hanowa in terms of operation. It's practically inaudible when the chrono hand is sweeping but with the Hanowa it's quite audible if you put it next to your ear. I think the Citizen has a much better movement. The Hanowa is also a bit more expensive, although it comes with two extra straps and the necessary tool to swap straps.
Great Review. The real comparison IMHO should be about the Calibers; Precision/Durability/Shock Resistance.
in same price range japanese are way way better than swiss.If you want to have a swiss in japan quality you have to pay 10 times more than a japanese.
Agree!
Yes, like the Tag Heuer Aquaracer RRP $2000, comes with a shitty $30 ETA 955.112 Quartz movement. Quality indeed.
agree too
I agree Seiko's low end quartz and solar quartz are throw away movements. In that price range, Seiko are not pretending to be anything other than an affordable watch. There are always exceptions to the rule, as you have mentioned.
My comment was more about a cheap quartz in an expensive case, which other companies other than Tag do. A lot of Seiko's range (especially in the $1000-2000 range), competes fiercely with Swiss. I have a Seiko SLA019 which would easily cost close to double if it were swiss, the finish is impeccable.
I also have owned many Swiss/German watches and still own a Tudor and two Sinns. Tag (especially Heuer) are awesome watches. But the fact of the matter is largely true- in many cases you will pay a lot more for a Swiss watch with the same finishing quality. Just look at the Shippo enamel dial pressage line from Seiko, you will easily pay double for a swiss equivalent. Same with the pressage column chrono with vertical clutch. You simply cannot find a swiss equivalent for that price.
I don't try to convince anyone of anything, and I haven't drank the Seiko kool-aid, but they do some seriously impressive stuff at certain price points.
@@8AP1 agree
Nicely done!
Damn i need to get that first watch, the contrast between the green, gold and that brown strap, its so nice.
That seiko looks fantastic, way better than in online pictures. Must get one, thanks for sharing.
Thanks appreciate it!
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GAW
My collection has quite a few watches from both countries. I find the Seiko with the 6R15 movement a well built piece, has a pretty good power reserve and runs at 21600 bpm, we find that particular movement in watches like the SARB line. Compare the Swiss watch around a similar price range, let's use a Hamilton field automatic with a standard ETA 2824-2 movement running at 28800 rpm. I have several of each so to do a time comparison with positional variance is a small but fair test.
Fit and finish is good with both Swiss and Japanese watches, I find the SARB line an amazingly good value, certainly comparable with the higher priced Swiss models. The 6R15 has a power reserve of around 50 hours whilst the 2824 is around 40 hours. It's timing where the Swiss pieces come into there own, I find the 2824 a very accurate movement, it performs within + 6seconds in five out of the six positions while I found the 6R15 had usually one position where it kept good time and widely varied in other positions. 24 hour X 6 positions.
Its depends on what you want from a timepiece. If good value, great looks and so so timing are what your looking for the 6R15 movement in the Seiko is for you. However, if accuracy is paramount, may I suggest the entry level swiss watch.
A beautiful collection of watches. Thanks for the video :)
+Manish Sahay Thank you very much:)
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GAW
For me, an automatic Seiko watch for wearing on day to day bussiness is enough. Have been owning one for more than 4 years, wear it continuously almost everyday the bracelet and the sapphire crystal face are full of scratches, but the clock is still going reliably without ever being serviced (yet). And a luxury Swiss watch for occasional use on formal event. My uncle gave me a vintage Rolex oyster perpetual watch, it's still running after almost 30 years, but cost a small fortune just to servicing it...😅😅😅
Artisto81 AKA Meong Garong nice one....The Rolex will be worth a lot, though. You say you have a Seiko 5.....I guess the reason the sapphire crystal is full of scratches, is that it is not sapphire, but hardlex....quite a soft material.
Good video! Could you share where did you get the leather strap with deployment buckle on the steinhart and the FC? Thx
IMHO.....'value for monies' innovative watches with top grade in house movement and comes with excellent characteristics of its own; swiss i prefer rolex, japan i prefer grand seiko and germany i prefer nomos.
Great comparison! I totally agree. I both own japanese as well as swiss made watches and love both of them. But I also definitely agree what you said about the swiss price inflation which is sometimes really ridiculus.
+Daniel Zimmermann Thanks man!
Yeah sometimes prices can get really high. I am glad there are brands like Steinhart, Christopher Ward and in some cases even Hamilton and Tissot, that offers great Swiss watches for a reasonable price.
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GAW
How about you go any buy an IWC, then sell it the next day? Have a cry when you lose 50% of your money. It was worth 50% of it's sale price to begin with.
Your comments are void of any intelligence and are annoying. Bugger off mosquito.
omnipotentum, your inferiority complex is showing.
I lobe Seiko watches and I’ve had a couple of Citizens over the years. Horological enthusiasts seem to always focus on Swiss made watches in the main, but Germany have some great manufacturers, for sheer value for money, no one touches the Japanese. As for China, they make great watches through microbrands. Having said all this, I have one Swiss quartz watch that I bought in 1999, in Bahrain. It’s a make that not many people have heard of, Argenti. It’s a super precise chronograph with an ETA movement and, apart from changing the battery every 6 years or so, it’s been 100% reliable and amazingly accurate....gaining about 1 second per month! I’ve just pulled the trigger on a Citizen Promaster tough ‘Ray Mears’ field watch and am really looking forward to getting it. Specs are great.........hardened titanium monocoque case, weighing only 50 grammes, Ecodrive movement, screwdown crown, 300m water resistant! Sapphire crystal, shock resistant, ant-magnetic, great lume, genuine Kevlar strap and looks good, all for £269. If this were Swiss and had an ETA automatic movement, it’d cost a fair bit! Good video.
Very good vid!! Wonderful watches. 👍👍
+Watches Galore Thanks man, appreciate it :)
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that green seiko is nice.
Honestly my next watch is going to be a Deep Blue with tritum tubes and super luminova. this micro brand is really nice they even put in sapphire all for like 1000 dollars. it also has a swiss movement i think,.
what do you think about frederique constant's name?
Where is the strap that you have on the alpinist from? I was looking to change out my strap and i love the brown and deployment clasp look
Swiss watches have better decoration on the movement and more solid bracelet, but I prefer Japanese.
I REALLY like my orange dial ORIENT from the 70's.
What band is that one that you have on the orient captain?? It looks amazing
I have two Victorinox are Swiss Army watches and one is automatic where the bracelet match my Swiss knife and the other is Swartz and thats the one i like to swim with, and happy with both.
Good value are Seiko and Tissot.
your watch straps are class!!
I love Tissot for good value Swiss watches. The Tissot Visodate is a beautiful automatic for around $500.
It depends on the make of watch. A Seiko will never be a Rolex or an Omega but my automatic Seiko has been running for 10 years and it cost $65.00 on sale.
JoachimderZweite A Grand Seiko has better finish then Rolex.
Suprxme Storm too right. Rolexes are beautifully made, but not really super hi end....Grand Seiko finishing is hi end.
I own a 34 year old Casio quartz analog watch. Apart from the many battery changes, and the general wear and tear (scratches on the bezel and face, it has not been serviced at all. I still wear it almost on a daily basis. My other quartz analog watch is a Seiko dress watch that is 20 years old, that I wear for more formal occasions. I say no more.
What size Watch Band Clasp Stainless Steel Deployment Buckle did you used for the Seiko Alpinist Sarb017? Thanks.
I think it's 18. I don't have the watch anymore so i can't say for sure. But if the lug width is 20mm the clasp size should be 18mm.
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GAW
I think Japanese Watches and Swiss Watches are both great in their own ways.
But I believe Swiss watches have become just symbol of "High Status" with its great history and I believe Japanese watches are actually way more practical and reliable than Swiss watch using their own cutting edge technology like GPS, Radio Wave control
and they can show us precise time wherever we are in the world.
What is your opinion on Raymond Weil? I'm considering buying a Maestro automatic (it's on sale..)
Congratulations. Very nice video.
I love Seiko automatic watches. The problem with another of Swiss made watches is to many use the same ETA movements while charging through the nose for it.
Eta movements are arguably among the best mechanical movements out there. In house movements are so overrated.
I think Frederique Constant is an underrated brand with some beautiful designs.
One watch I have considered a Swiss watch is an ESQ from Movado it has been a good watch for 20 years.
I love your video! One constructive criticism from me: please try to plan and record your reviews to be brief and a little peppy. Your voice should not be in a monotone... Make it go up and down to grab your audience's attention! I know you're very capable and knowledgeable. It's just that it can get a lot better and your videos will go viral among today's youth, who are buying less and less number of watches due to smartphone invasion. All the best!
What strap model did you use for the Citizen? Looks fantastic on it!
Thanks. It's a Hirsch Duke strap. I bought it at my local watch shop. But i think you can find it on Hirsch website.
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GAW
Nice review..
I've seen amazing watches from Switzerland and Japan. I've also seen great watches from Germany and China.
Nope..the Seiko is superb
what strap is that on the Steinhart? it looks really good on it. thanks!
It's a Sailcloth strap from Bradystraps. Can't recommend them anymore though. They didn't answer or send me the last strap i bought from them so i had to make a claim. Look for MrSailCloth on instagram instead.
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Wooow what a BEAUTIFULL seiko !!!
Which strap is on the Steinhart? Link please?
Japanese watches offer great value for money with in-house movements for every price point. I have some Swiss pieces in my collection but I love my Japanese watches, in fact they get more wrist time. I am particularly fond of Seiko and Orient and to a lesser extent Citizen. I have a few Citizen automatics in my collection.
Yes exactly. Japansese watches are fantastic. But i can't really say any country of manufacture is better then the other. Both make fantastic watch, but sometimes you can get more value out of your money from Japanese watches.
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This is highly. Informative. I have felt the same way but have never asked. Can you do a review of the Citizen Eco-Drive watches?
Thank you, really appreciate it!
If i get a hold of a Eco-Drive i will do a review of it of course.
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GAW
that steinhart uses a soprod A10-2 movement which was originally a seiko movement more specifically a credor movement so it's more Japanese then swiss
True. A fantastic movement which i think is very interesting. I'm really glad i have the Soprod version of the Ocean 500.
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GAW
They are now using ETA movements. Most of the Ocean 1 series has the 2824-2. Btw, Frederick Constant's in house movement is just a decorated ETA or Sellita movement. The FC-303 is either based on the ETA 2824 or the SW200.
The Ocean 500 now uses the ETA 2892-A2 Elaboré.
I've had 4 japanese watches with another on the way. After I bought 3 watches, I decided to purchase a Hamilton khaki pilot. Certainly not the best that the swiss have to offer, but this watch is amazing. The amount of innovation in the h40 movement is incredible, and the finishing is amazing. You can get it for around $550 online. Now the Japanese watches were/are all under $300 and I love them. The dials are all beautiful with a lot of attention to detail, but the finishing was mostly all polished or bead blasted. No variation. Which really isn't a bad thing. The movements were all great, but nothing special. I love both
Thanks to you, now I gotta spend more money for my collection.
It would be great to hear a watchmaker's opinion here. Many Japanese movements are no longer assembled in Japan. Likewise, Swiss movement parts are sometimes outsourced. To complicate things further, both countries produce movements in the millions raising questions regarding manufacturing processes and quality control. Personally, I don't see how you could go wrong with a good Seiko or ETA movement but would like to hear more about this subject. Thank you.
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My fathers swiss watch Rotary is still working, it's a 1950s mechanical watch, never been repaired, the dail is just a little rusty but still is ticking perfectly. This is a swiss watch
Possibly the best value for money today right be the Swatch Skeleton with a variant of the ETA 2824.
I love Japanese Watches, for the idea of "Set and forget" You cant beat Citizen Echo drive, closely followed by Seiko's battery quartz movements, I have known my Chronographs last six years on original battery. Then not forgetting Casio's "Tough Solar" models, IMHO because I own examples they R unbelievably accurate! If however ones leans towards hard-core metallurgical tough watches with automatic movt, s then the Swiss have it hands down. I own Omega, Steinhart, Defaufre, Grovanna, & O+W, the first three originate from the same "stable" , but all 4 keep amazing time, having said that my Orient automatics keep incredible accuracy but just too flimsy, and yet the only swiss quartz I own is a late 80s Omega Sea master owned from new and re batteried+ gasketed by self matches the Japanese quartz entirely for accuracy.
Where I can buy FC710 ? Thank you
Is there a reason why the straps are on the other way round?
i am using both Japan and swiss watches . Casio and mont blanc
The hamilton khaki line is quite competitive to affordable seiko and orient. I can't say one is better than the other I like my japanese and my swiss I even have a very good seagull watch.
Agreed and good suggestion. Hamilton Khaki are great watches. I personally really like the mechanical version.
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GAW
These are great example of Japanese vs. Swiss watches for those on a budget but as a novice with that title I was expecting more of an explanation as to why one is better than the other.
I know of 4 major Japanese brands - Casio, Seiko, Citizen, Orient. All these 4 are so famous and every value for money. Do they last as long as some of the Swiss. Absolutely yes if not each of these.
Now on the Swiss side we have plethora of brands. However not all would last and have as good of value in terms of quality than the Seiko or Citizen. There is however a great history and sometimes that t
It is no brainier that the Japanese are VFM however provided the Swiss and German watches do not have exorbitant hyped pricing they are better in many terms than the Japanese.
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I have looked at a lot of watches but to me the Alpinist is the one I keep going back to. I may have to buy one soon... Although my baby tuna can thing is just superb as well.. But, there is no way I'd pay $1000 for a watch.......
Seiko (Japan) and Steinhart (Swiss/German) make amazing watches. I would also add Christopher Ward.
Agreed, i own a CW C60 Vintage. It's a fantastic watch. A review will be out soon!
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GAW
My nephew purchased a Christopher Ward watch new as a gift to himself for a pay rise, cost him Aust $3,000 .. well it plumeted like a stone in value and 18months later he'd lucky to get a grand for it.
Christopher Ward make some beautiful watches... and then they stick their logo on them. So close...
Could you list the models of each watch? Have a mako USA 2 on the way but can't seem to find the constant slimline you're showing. Thanks in advance!
Look in the description :)
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GAW
GreatAffordableWatches thanks!!
Swiss made movements is good
BUT I prefer to Japanese movement it was made 100%
Built inhouse movement BUT swiss movement on a watch is not 100% built in house. Components are sourced and
Made from China, Thailand
So i prefer to Japanese movement
I will never buy a watch in the zero to $500 range again unless it is a gift for someone. I have purchased many Seiko’s, and a citizen. If you want a watch that’s reliable,accurate, and will look almost new for a very long time both Citizen and Seiko are great choices. For someone like me that wants all of the fore mentioned checks in the box items, as well as something made and finished with the greatest attention to detail….save your money until you can afford to spend approximately $1000 on a completely Swiss made watch like Longines. You won’t be disappointed!!!! And don’t worry to much about being able to see the movement in the back of the watch for your first watch. You’ll love it so much you won’t want to take it off.
As a collector I like em all. I just love watches
What are your feelings regarding Roamer watches? I own a Rolex Deep Sea Seadweller and a Roamer Stingray Alarm GMT (my everyday watch) I know I'm comparing a quartz movement with a mechanical movement but as build quality is concerned my Roamer is as well built and sports a lot of similarities like case metal and glass material for a fraction of the cost. I have owned many Swiss and Japanese watches but in my opinion the Roamer is the best value for money watch i have in my collection. For around $400 you can expect 1 or 2 features but with the Roamer Stingray you get GMT hand, full high grade stainless steel with safety clasp, sapphire glass, alarm and day/date. It even has a power reserve indicator on the dial. I have never seen all these functions together on one watch at this or twice the price. For that reason and because it was a birthday gift to me from my fiancee its my favorite watch and while the others stay safe in the safe the Roamer Stingray GMT sits on my wrist everyday. Thank you for a great channel and I have become a subscriber. Keep up the great content. 👍
seiko sarb 035 brilliant just brilliant ..........everyone should buy a sarb , saphire crystal front and back and an in house movement a bomb couldnt break ...not to mention how beautifull it looks
The movement of that FC710 looked incredible given the stated retail price so I looked it up and it turns out the retail price is more like three thousand, not one.
+jobicek The retail price is around $2.8k but you can get it much cheaper if you look on the Grey market like Jomashop etc.
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I love Seikos and Orients. Steinhart is my max. amount I will pay for Swiss movement.
Strinhart copies design strengths from other top swiss brands. Hardly original
There are probably over 5000 (estimated) watch makers in the world at this time. I can't help but think that, with that many creators working around the clock (pardon the pun) to create a watch, there are bound to be issues staying in your swim lanes. -Particularly when a creation from another maker is wildly successful and that success has sustained for a couple of decades or longer. I would venture to say that there are few people at Rolex today that were there when the Sub was first created, so in a sense, every Sub design that has followed since the first one is in essence also a copy or highly iterative/derivative. I've always said that every product creator (cars, watches, televisions, etc.) would probably love to be 100 percent original and innovative, but their first responsibility is to earn enough to pay their bills, retain their employees, feed their family, etc. With all of that in mind, I'm sure it can be difficult for a new watchmaker to ignore the fact that cloning a Rolly Sub is a good way to get your foot in the proverbial door.
Rolex offer high quality watches that could be taken Scuba diving or to the top of everest. The same cannot be said of many Japanese watches.
Really it is all about horses for courses.
I love Orient. My Esteem II runs with + 2 seconds per day. For 130 € ... :-)
I could have bought a watch with the 2892a2 movement for under $279 but I was unfamiliar with the movement or the brand. I think it was La Valie?? Did I blow it?
I think you can get equally good Japanese and Swiss watches at nearly every price point. Except for very low or very high prices, where Seiko beats most of its opponents in terms of value for money. Nice collection, I really like the SARB017! ;)
Uhrkunde Yes i agree. They both offer good watches in each price range. And Yes the SARB017 is a fantastic piece :)
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GAW
What about Victorinox and Tissot watches? I owned some automatic versions of them under $500👍
Victorinox are very underrated. Great watches for the money
What clasp is that on the sarb017? And is it the original strap? I got it now, would be nice to have that clasp.
Hi!
Yes that's the original strap. The clasp is a deployant buckle from ebay. Just search for that on Ebay, i think it cost $4 :)
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Thanks man. Quick reply! Will get it!
I really like Orient, Seiko, Citizen. Swiss watches aren't better. At least not the normal ones you can buy.
I have both an Seiko Alpinist and a Swiss watch (Hamilton PanEurop). I love them both. They each have a different look. The Alpinist is really nice. Tight and I shouldn't have to service it for a decade or more. I have to say, it's strap was awful. I immediately changed it to a green leather zulu strap. Comfortable and sweet looking. The Hamilton, thoug, is finished and the presentation , sparkle, and look is just beautiful. It is larger, and has some real flair to it. Great straps too. Is it worth more than double the Alpinist? I dunno. I love them both and they split wrist time. Thanks!
Hamilton is mutton dressed as lamb
Yeah but I like both mutton and lamb. The're both tasty! Then again so's moose.
Well it all makes sense now.
Steinhart, Christopher Ward and Hamilton all are great. Seiko does make some great pieces
Reference of the Orient please ?
Japanese Brands advantages are
1. Its cheaper but quality
2. Easier to look for parts
3. More support for service and support
I would say its like Toyota in cars. Dominating market because its affordable
Very nice collection.
Thanks man! Appreciate it.
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GAW
theoretically, solar powered digital watch is the maintenance free watch because of no moving parts and no need for battery replacement.
Also the Hamilton Intramatic at around 600 euros is a great value Swiss dress watch.
Very true! A fantastic looking watch. It was between the Intramatic and the Slimline when i was after a dress watch. Only problem with that one is the lack of applied markers. Otherwise a great watch.
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GAW
Tisell 9015-A Antique is a great alternative to the Hamilton Intra-Matic which costs much less, also. No applied markers, but it has a heat-treated blue seconds hand (while the Hamilton lacks any second hand at all). And Miyota 9015 is usually reserved for much more expensive watches than this Tisell. The guy who makes Tisell watches also personally regulates each one, so the quality control is very high.
+Tayyab Pirzada
Agreed. The Antique is a fantastic price for the money and probably my favoirte watch from Tisell. And as you said it's just a great watch overall.
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GAW
dear sir please tell me about fossil automatic watch with japanese moment
Fack fossil plastique i love watches SWISS.
Japanese watches are affordable, provide excellent quality and accuracy. But the aesthetic beauty of a Swiss watch is unique and the feeling of having something precious on your wrist can't be had using a Japanese watch.
I have been using Japanese and Swiss watches since 2 decades.
Japanese make great watches like Seiko, Citizen and Orient, I have bought all three and they are in fine condition all these years.
I have been using Rado, Tissot, Raymond Weil and Continental as well, and can't get over my fascination with these Swiss watches.
Everyone is entitled to his opinion. I would go with the Swiss watch for aesthetic reasons and for accuracy, and value for money, the Japanese watches take the lead.
No chronographs. Due to the prevalence of the Valjoux 7750 movement, Swiss auto chronos are actually a lot cheaper than Japanese automatic chronographs.