I was worried when I saw the thumbnail for this video. I have the exact same truck. When I watched the video I realized they were discontinuing the motor. I have a different motor so not a big deal. Thanks for the video! I'll have to look into your blackout accessories.
Ford never promoted the engine, the never updated it or improved it, and they made it a $4,000 option. Compared to competitors they made it hard to want that engine.
What I've learned in retrospect from my '14 Fusion w/1.6l Ecoboost and stick transmission: If they aren't pushing it, there's a reason. Like maybe the engine is a POS, and they're trying to get rid of the stock they have.
@@roadrash1021 from what I hear it’s a great engine and it’s been proven in the Land Rover. In my opinion I think it’s because right now the market wants electric and Ford is going to spend the time and resources in promoting the electric 150/power boost. They have already made their point with the eco boost in the Ford gt. So now it’s time to make a point with their electric technology.
I think they have a legitimate market for these engines, they just never invested into advertising for them. Love the videos man, I remember binge watching this channel in like 2012 when y’all would post videos of your used inventory, like a 2007 f150 king ranch or something lol. Keep up the great work!
I traded 3.5eco Lariat for the 3.0 Powerstroke. On paper the 3.5eco looks impressive but it comes with one thing Ford won't tell you. Comes with Heat and lots of it. The Powerstroke pulls the camper with no issues where the 3.5eco would go into limp mode. Same camper same mountain.
@@larrybe2900 Yes. Always tow in tow mode. Had it in the shop running all kinds of testing including intercooler and turbos. Couldn't find anything wrong. Mechanic (owns 6.7 powerstroke) told me it's just too much trailer for it. Just over 6000lb. But I never had issues towing on flat ground like TX. Only in the mountains in CO.
@@henryford2736 I think elevation plays a part in what is actual towing ability. If you are able to tow 6,000# at sea level there is a reduction off of that for every thousand feet in elevation. Technically you were towing too heavy and there probably was nothing wrong with the truck. Your limit may have become say 5k at elevation.
@@larrybe2900 whatever the reason the 3.0 Powerstroke does it without problems. Same camper same mountains. I like to know if you derate for altitude the Powerstroke or is it just for the Ecoboost?
@@henryford2736 www.salernoduaneford.com/blog/2015/september/30/does-your-towing-capacity-decrease-with-altitude.htm My 2.7 Ecoboost with GCWR of 12,700 would be reduced by 2,540 for towing at 10,000 ft. elevation. It is a fact of physics what is happening so if a thin mixture of air is being forced into the cylinders less air will be compressed compared to at sea level. The curve of reduction of performance in the cylinders is decreased by forcing air in but is still better than naturally aspirated engines breathing in available air. I would have to say the nature of the compression for detonation might make the difference with diesels.
I have a 2019 f150 XLT 4wd with the 3.0 diesel. After 45,000 miles I am very happy with it. Acceptable power good mid range towing and great economy. $4,995 option on the XLT is the biggest reason they didn’t sell. Very comfortable and unstressed on the highway, even when running speeds that are far from legal. Even up to the 107 mph governor it never seems stressed. Keep up the great work, great reviews.
HORRIBLE MARKETING !!!! Had this engine been offered in an STX / XLT trim from the jump... There would have been far greater sales for this engine. I want one of these trucks so bad, but Ford priced me out of the truck before it even hit dealer lots.
Yeah I worked as a salesman at Ford the last 5 years. When it first came out it was only offered on a lariat trim. Then it was only offered on xlt trim with chrome package. Dealers hardly stocked them and tons of customers I talked to werent even aware Ford offered the 3.0 diesel in a F-150 and if they did they were apprehensive with it being "new". Only people who really wanted it were towing constantly and really didnt need a F-250 so it was a very nitch market.
A buddy of mine bought one of the first F150 diesels and regularly gets north of 30 mpg on the highway. He loves his truck! He also has an F250 diesel for heavier towing, but dailys the 150.
What really did the 3L diesel Powerstroke in was the fact that the cost of diesel fuel over the past several years was at least a dollar or more per gallon then regular gasoline, the DEF, the extra cost in maintenance, and the $5,000 up charge for the 3.0 Powerstroke, all for the small return in fuel mileage made it an extremely hard sell. You can get a 2.7 L EcoBoost that gets almost the same fuel mileage, and can tow just about as much.
I have a 2018 King Ranch, with that engine and I really enjoy driving the truck. It is a roomy, quiet, smooth running truck like Mitchell mentioned. It is a unique combination to have. I have had a lot conversations in parking lots and at the fuel pump, putting diesel fuel in a F150. Overall very happy with this F150. But the numbers tell it all. Hope I can get parts and find someone to work on it in the future.
Me too Buc. No regrets. And people do take a double take at the pump. I don't think parts and service will be a problem as it isn't really a completely new engine.
I have a 2021 XLT with 3.0 Powerstroke. I am averaging 24.5 mpg for driving around town. I only had the F150 for two months and haven’t driven any long highway trips, but initial estimates are the powersrtroke will get 30+mpg. Currently diesel #2 in Southern California is $4.19 whereas regular is upward of $4.59.
It was rumored they were going to do this before the ranger came out. Maybe not this diesel exactly, but a diesel. Ford chickened out and didn't do it.
I think Ford is making a mistake on this one… all the other brands are going all-in on diesel 1500s. Ram is in their 3rd generation, GM is making them so affordable, and now it’s being hinted that Toyota may offer a diesel in the new Tundra.
@Adventure Fishing The Duramax I-6 is a diesel engine available in select models of General Motors light duty trucks and SUVs. Applications include the Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Suburban, Tahoe, GMC Sierra 1500, Yukon, Yukon XL and the Cadillac Escalade. The Duramax diesel was developed together with Opel, who are manufacturing three- and four-cylinder versions displacing 1.5 and 2.0 liters, using the same engine architecture
Darn! Was looking forward to getting one once the chip shortage was rectified. Wanted the 30mpg fuel consumption & the cooler running engine while towing in mountains. My F250 7.3 is 20 years old, so I think I’ll keep it another few years…
No kidding. My 07’ 6.0 F-350 has 500,000 on the clock. I was looking to buy a new truck this year but with all the chip BS and shortages I’m going to keep driving it.
I don't have any issues pulling 6k camper in the CO mountains. Your next option is the Chevy diesel if you want diesel. And really if you tow in the mountains diesel is the way to go.
@@henryford2736 Why Chevy's Duramax over a Ram with a Cummins? Is it because of the engine or because of the stuff surrounding the engine (i.e. the rest of the truck)?
And to top if off only available In lariat or higher, and people are so over timing belts, they are so 90s. Trucks should not have timing belts period.
True. They caved to pressure to put a diesel engine in. So they half you know whatd it. Now they can go well we gave the people what they wanted and it didn't work.
That’s what turned me away. Seems trivial but I don’t want to keep up with def fluid filling and the potential failures and maintenance of all the modern emissions devices.
Most people in the half-ton market want low cost and just have a truck to have a truck. They are status symbols. Also, the EcoBoost turned out to be a reliable and efficient engine. Anybody serious about towing is going to buy a diesel Super-Duty.
Honestly, I think Ford intentionally made the 3L Powerstroke numbers "stink". They put a CRAP-ton of R&D into the Ecoboost engines and their electric motors. I think this is just Ford funneling customers where they want them to go.
@@Jeff-Vader_head_of_catering Jeff, couldn’t agree more, I’m a 25 year diesel mechanic and the push is to get rid of the diesels, we have six more fully electric mass transit buses coming this year, our bus fleets around 800, they are still trying to figure out how to charge these things since our buildings aren’t set up for charging stations and the buses can’t make a full day of ruining on a charge , it’s a whole new world for us, going to be interesting !!!!
@@Jeff-Vader_head_of_catering GM did the same thing for their small diesels....no media, no advertising, nothing. Almost as if they wanted it to fail in order to say “see, no one wanted a small diesel, so we pushed to hybrid and electric”
The overwhelming majority of people who buy trucks never need a truck. The fact that today's 1/2 ton trucks are really just cars with boxes is a testament to that fact.
I bought the 2020 F150 XLT with the tow package. It has the 3.5 Ecoboost. 36 gal tank. Now just over 4000 miles on it and 1 long road trip without an trailer being towed. Going off the max distance on an full fuel up. If I manly do in town driving. It will stay are 530 miles. One my long road trip. It said 694 miles. The truck I traded in on this truck. 2008 F350 King Ranch with the 6.4 powerstroke diesel engine. 98,000 miles on it. Max range after full up with 36 gallon tank and long range by the truck itself. 434 miles. No mods. Not DEF fuel tank. I do miss my F350 a lot. Yet my F150 XLT. If I have my way about it. The last truck I will ever buy. One amazing truck. I just wished I had it decades ago. Supper pleased. Thanks Ford.
I have a 2019 Lariat and love it. It is a 2 WD and I get 29-31 mpg highway and 24-28 mpg city/county. I bought brand new and got it from a super high volume dealer in Ontario, Canada and got a $14000.00 discount, so basically got the diesel for no charge. Was a customer order, not off the lot!!
Bummer. Zero marketing, was looking to move to f150 3.0 in the next couple years. Maybe an xlt long bed will pop-up on a dealer lot later this year. If not I guess I will look at the other 1/2 ton diesel options. Slight hope they bring it back after Covid delays, since its imported (doubtful).
Right now there are commodity constraints on that motor (meaning they can’t get enough of them built to meet demand). Also, a lot of people have been ordering (and loving) the new Ecoboost and the new power boost engines
Do the 2021 F150s power tailgate close by power key fob or do I have to manually close the tailgate? With GM trucks u have to manually close the tailgate.
The fact that you had to pay $4000+ just to get it AND you had to get a mid level trim to do so while the competition was offering the diesels in just about every trim and not charging as much for it has nothing to do with it.
Ordered on January 30, built June 24, completed July 13 shipped and expected August 8-14 from Decatur. As of July 26 was in Louisville destined to arrive eastern NC on date I specified. Love your U-tubes.
The Diesel motor will outlast the eco boost and get better fuel economy. What killed this motor option is the extra cost, and lack of promotions. The future is hybrids and full electric. If you need a diesel just get a super duty.
It's expensive, higher maintenance, weaker, slower, can't tow as much. What killed it is it doesn't have a place in the lineup other than to check the box of 'we offer a diesel too!'
Love your videos my friend....... very informative. One day before I pass.... my goal is to come see ya in person and try to buy a brand new Ford F150 Black Lariat 4x4 V8 🤞. Take care and stay safe.
I think Ford made a bad decision getting rid of the baby stroker. They should have advertised for it more, just as Ram and Chevrolet have. in the mountains there is no other option that will come even close to cutting it. R.I.P. 3.0 PowerStroke, you will be missed.
@@farlesbarkley1022 no, it would blow up. If you’re in the mountains, towing for that matter the low RPM of a diesel is mandatory. Along with the forced induction that the ecoboost has too. My friend tows travel trailers through Northern California and no dealer would sell him a gas pickup. One of his buddies pulled a little travel trailer (about 6000 lbs) with a 2013 F150 3.5, he got rid of the truck for a baby diesel after one trip. It ran too hot, went into limp mode and so on.
@@americantrucknation4891 People do it all the time, and they don't blow up. Really pretty hilarious to claim that only about 0.1% of F150's ever made are capable of towing a 6k lb travel trailer, the real world says otherwise
@@farlesbarkley1022 in the northern Cali mountains yes the baby stroker is the only one. I’ve towed much more with my 5.0 on flat ground and it handles it fine, if I was at max altitude than I wouldn’t ever do that.
I just jumped from a Jeep GC eco diesel to F150 power boost . I had the GC for 6 years. With remote work, the emission regeneration process started to tick me off sine I hardly drove more than 10 miles a week. I would get hit 1 or 2 times a week for regen and have to drive for 30 minutes to complete it. So far, I am really happy with the PB and no longer held hostage when the vehicle wants to regen.
One issue, I own a 2019 4wd 3.0ps, if you are constantly hauling a trailer the diesel will get better fuel economy over the Ecoboost up to the truck's capacity.
I drove one of these trucks recently & was incredibly impressed with it & I've owned newer F series trucks with the 2.7eco,3.5eco,3.5HOeco,5.0 NA,5.0 supercharged & 6.7 diesel. Yes I'm very well versed in modern Ford trucks & this 3.0 diesel f150 is a very capable combo. I'm sad to see it go.
I am receiving my ordered 2021 Lariat 502 sport iconic silver. You mentioned that I can purchase Ford Logo painted black for front and back. Is this correct?
I bought a used 2018 Platinum F150 Powerstroke. I am getting the same kind of mileage that fordaeromax is reporting. NONE of the F150 EcoBoost engines get that kind of mileage.
Many 6.0 owners who bought their truck new have received class action lawsuit payments. Some owners have opted out of the class action lawsuit and went straight to a fraud case: one example is Charles Margeson of California, who was awarded $214,537.34 plus legal fees ($72,564.04 was for repayment of his 2006 F-350). Margeson, along with 5 other owners who opted out of the class action lawsuits, have been awarded over US$10 million.
From what I recall diesel for a truck is different then diesel for big heavy equipment . The difference is leaded and non leaded diesel, so using a diesel on sight to use the same fuel doesn’t make sense.
GM is axing the diesel for the upcoming 3rd gen Colorados/Canyons. They never advertised these either and the added costs did make them a little more expensive than was comfortable, but had great benefit. But yep, also going away. RIP.
Ford should not have limited the engine to lariat and higher trim for consumers. The diesel is way more efficient towing travel trailers and anything .let’s face it no one tows campers w half tons that weigh over 10 k so these are fine. Torque peak may not be as high as the 3.5 but it delivers the maximum torque a lot sooner. Emissions systems are too complicated on the diesels and to be honest the GM 3.0 inline 6 Duramax is much stronger engine from its inline 6 design to its power , torque ,acceleration ,and only 995.00 option ,Ford simply cannot compete,they are better off dropping it .
The power stroke will be used for the next ranger generation overseas. USA is not known for Diesel engines preference, but people love them in other markets and the 3.0 v6 diesel would be a great engine for the ranger overseas.
I have the 2019 f-150 with the 3.0 diesel and will keep it forever now that I can’t get another. I know lots of guys with the ecoboost and they get ok mileage when the truck is empty, but horrible mileage when they work their trucks
I pretty much have this exact same truck except with the 3.5 Ecoboost. I love the color! I do understand why these are going away. They are not worth the money for the underperformance you get. We have diesel pumps on site at work as well and we would never buy this baby diesel. Most of our truck are 2 ton or larger but the F150’s are 5.0 or 3.5. and we just fill them up at the gas station.
Same engine is in use around the world in Land Rovers. But in the US it didn't stand a chance against the Ecoboost engines and the emission regulations here.
I’m the target market for this truck. I tow a 3,000-3,500 lb trailer everyday for my pool maintenance business. I bought a 2021 1/2 ton Silverado Duramax diesel, and it’s fantastic. I’ve owned several F-150’s from the base motor, to the 5.0L and 3.5 EcoBoost. I even had a Ram EcoDiesel. I avoided the Ram EcoDiesel and Ford F-150 Powerstroke due to issues I read about on both. I’ve never been a GM guy, but they have blown me away with the performance on their 3.0L Duramax diesel. Ford really missed the opportunity to participate in this segment.
In 2019 I HIGHLY considered the F150 3.0 diesel. I really like diesel engines, and tow occasionally for camping. My biggest problem was the price vs. super duty. Just now I built a loaded 150 diesel Platinum, and then a loaded 250 diesel Platinum. (apples to apples options between the two). The 150 is $74,920, the 250 is $82,125, or a difference of $7,200. When you are spending 75k, $7,000 difference is petty, and the super duty will hold its value better and tows like a dream. Not to mention when I purchased my super duty in 2019 incentives were great on it, and not on the 3.0 diesel that just came out. So the differential at the time was quite a bit less. So in my opinion one of the biggest problems is price point when compared to the super duty which is a far superior truck, especially when towing. Just my thoughts.
I used to sell F150’s, and I gotta say. Every customer that I met wanted a 3.0L diesel, I talked into a 2.7L, 5.0, or 3.5 eco boost. It’s hard to justify a diesel when a salesman is explaining that the 2.7 is faster, cheaper, cheaper to maintain, uses cheaper fuel, and gets the same MPG. To me, the 2.7L eco boost killed the 3.0L power stoke in absolutely every category.
@@americantrucknation4891 read your earlier comment man, you said “no” to high altitudes regarding my comment about the diesel being the better engine in efficiency.
In 2018 I was in the market for an F-150. (I was trading in my 2012 Lariat F-250) and I looked at the diesel option, but at that time the diesel option (3.0) was only in the king ranch trim level, or maybe Lariat? Anyway, coming down from a very expensive truck to own and operate (my f-250) I didn’t want to spend 75k on a diesel truck that I could get better performance out of with a gasser. So to me, I think the 3.0 diesel needs to be available for cheaper on lower trim levels to be worth it.
I had the dodge eco diesel in my Ram. I got bad fuel destroyed my high end fuel system. It cost 10k to repair. I went back to gas and the F150. I’ll never have another diesel in a 1/2 ton truck. Also Ford is involved in a class action law for the same reason my truck failed. Maybe that’s why the discontinued it.
The 3.0L Powerstroke was not meant to be in a full sized truck lol. It needs to be in the Ranger. The size, mpg and power ratings/ towing capacity would fit in great in the mid size class
This engine lives in the heart of the guy who wants his paid off truck to last over 200k miles. That does benefit Ford who wants you to buy a new truck when your eco-boost V6 starts causing you issues at 80k
They also wouldn't allow anyone but fleet customers to buy it in a reasonable spec truck. You have to get it in lariat or above. Can't get it in XL or XLT unless you're buying a bunch.
Town and Country TV - If they would give you the option for the same size Diesel has the F250/350 have I think they would sell. I have the 3.5 Twin Turbo Eco in mine which I like. I had it in several new Trucks that I have bought. But when I tow anything even just a lawn mower I go down big time in fuel MPG
Hello, My 21 will be in soon... Did not get sport appearance package because of the 2tone interior. In the future I will have Ft & R Bumpers painted to Carbonized Gray. As far as Ft Grill & Side Vents... Can these items be order/replaced in Carbonized Gray? Yes I will try n make it look like Sport Appearance Package 👍🏼 In my opinion... FORD screwed up doing this! Should have been solid color! Or at least a choice...
I was worried when I saw the thumbnail for this video. I have the exact same truck. When I watched the video I realized they were discontinuing the motor. I have a different motor so not a big deal. Thanks for the video! I'll have to look into your blackout accessories.
Ford never promoted the engine, the never updated it or improved it, and they made it a $4,000 option. Compared to competitors they made it hard to want that engine.
What I've learned in retrospect from my '14 Fusion w/1.6l Ecoboost and stick transmission: If they aren't pushing it, there's a reason. Like maybe the engine is a POS, and they're trying to get rid of the stock they have.
@@roadrash1021 from what I hear it’s a great engine and it’s been proven in the Land Rover. In my opinion I think it’s because right now the market wants electric and Ford is going to spend the time and resources in promoting the electric 150/power boost. They have already made their point with the eco boost in the Ford gt. So now it’s time to make a point with their electric technology.
Hopefully it will be a great buy on the used market. Maybe at 45-65k miles
What’s to promote? The 3.5 eco boost outperforms it in every way.
@@RomansFiveDotEight the 3.0 had way better gas mileage and with it being a diesel it will be more reliable and have higher resale.
I think they have a legitimate market for these engines, they just never invested into advertising for them. Love the videos man, I remember binge watching this channel in like 2012 when y’all would post videos of your used inventory, like a 2007 f150 king ranch or something lol. Keep up the great work!
Agree but these thing are way way over priced . Lower the price and many will buy . I would of but the ecoboost was 5k cheaper .
@@Spad68 they should have made them available in the lower trim models. Not the high price levels
@@thunderroad7289 agreed .
I traded 3.5eco Lariat for the 3.0 Powerstroke. On paper the 3.5eco looks impressive but it comes with one thing Ford won't tell you. Comes with Heat and lots of it. The Powerstroke pulls the camper with no issues where the 3.5eco would go into limp mode. Same camper same mountain.
In tow mode?
@@larrybe2900 Yes. Always tow in tow mode. Had it in the shop running all kinds of testing including intercooler and turbos. Couldn't find anything wrong. Mechanic (owns 6.7 powerstroke) told me it's just too much trailer for it. Just over 6000lb.
But I never had issues towing on flat ground like TX. Only in the mountains in CO.
@@henryford2736
I think elevation plays a part in what is actual towing ability. If you are able to tow 6,000# at sea level there is a reduction off of that for every thousand feet in elevation. Technically you were towing too heavy and there probably was nothing wrong with the truck. Your limit may have become say 5k at elevation.
@@larrybe2900 whatever the reason the 3.0 Powerstroke does it without problems. Same camper same mountains.
I like to know if you derate for altitude the Powerstroke or is it just for the Ecoboost?
@@henryford2736
www.salernoduaneford.com/blog/2015/september/30/does-your-towing-capacity-decrease-with-altitude.htm
My 2.7 Ecoboost with GCWR of 12,700 would be reduced by 2,540 for towing at 10,000 ft. elevation. It is a fact of physics what is happening so if a thin mixture of air is being forced into the cylinders less air will be compressed compared to at sea level. The curve of reduction of performance in the cylinders is decreased by forcing air in but is still better than naturally aspirated engines breathing in available air. I would have to say the nature of the compression for detonation might make the difference with diesels.
I have a 2019 f150 XLT 4wd with the 3.0 diesel. After 45,000 miles I am very happy with it. Acceptable power good mid range towing and great economy. $4,995 option on the XLT is the biggest reason they didn’t sell. Very comfortable and unstressed on the highway, even when running speeds that are far from legal. Even up to the 107 mph governor it never seems stressed. Keep up the great work, great reviews.
HORRIBLE MARKETING !!!! Had this engine been offered in an STX / XLT trim from the jump... There would have been far greater sales for this engine. I want one of these trucks so bad, but Ford priced me out of the truck before it even hit dealer lots.
Get an STX that’s what I have and the price was reasonable. Maybe wait for stock to start building back up
It was available in the XLT from 19-20 and XL too for 21
Yeah I worked as a salesman at Ford the last 5 years. When it first came out it was only offered on a lariat trim. Then it was only offered on xlt trim with chrome package. Dealers hardly stocked them and tons of customers I talked to werent even aware Ford offered the 3.0 diesel in a F-150 and if they did they were apprehensive with it being "new". Only people who really wanted it were towing constantly and really didnt need a F-250 so it was a very nitch market.
You could have gotten one in an XL starting in 2020 models
Same . It was a 5k option but also never came in xlt . So it ended up being a 30k option
A buddy of mine bought one of the first F150 diesels and regularly gets north of 30 mpg on the highway. He loves his truck! He also has an F250 diesel for heavier towing, but dailys the 150.
What really did the 3L diesel Powerstroke in was the fact that the cost of diesel fuel over the past several years was at least a dollar or more per gallon then regular gasoline, the DEF, the extra cost in maintenance, and the $5,000 up charge for the 3.0 Powerstroke, all for the small return in fuel mileage made it an extremely hard sell. You can get a 2.7 L EcoBoost that gets almost the same fuel mileage, and can tow just about as much.
I have a 2018 King Ranch, with that engine and I really enjoy driving the truck. It is a roomy, quiet, smooth running truck like Mitchell mentioned. It is a unique combination to have. I have had a lot conversations in parking lots and at the fuel pump, putting diesel fuel in a F150. Overall very happy with this F150. But the numbers tell it all. Hope I can get parts and find someone to work on it in the future.
Me too Buc. No regrets. And people do take a double take at the pump. I don't think parts and service will be a problem as it isn't really a completely new engine.
@@borandell9915 Cool. Thanks Bo.
I have a 2021 XLT with 3.0 Powerstroke. I am averaging 24.5 mpg for driving around town. I only had the F150 for two months and haven’t driven any long highway trips, but initial estimates are the powersrtroke will get 30+mpg. Currently diesel #2 in Southern California is $4.19 whereas regular is upward of $4.59.
So gas is more expensive than diesel?
@@IcanseeJohnCenaIn the United States, Yes.
@@EdisnFox gosh
@@IcanseeJohnCena Not anymore. Diesel +1.50 and rising.
Put that engine in the ford ranger. That make a great work truck. Cheap on fuel and the hp would match the lighter truck.
That’s actually a very good thought!
Thought about the Toyota Hilux pick up when I read your comment. That would make that mean little truck👍
It was rumored they were going to do this before the ranger came out. Maybe not this diesel exactly, but a diesel. Ford chickened out and didn't do it.
@@CoalitionGaming ya. Kbkw it make for a great work truck. Idk why ford didn't.
That is actually going to happen in the next-gen T6.2 Ranger, along with the 2.7 EcoBoost.
I think Ford is making a mistake on this one… all the other brands are going all-in on diesel 1500s. Ram is in their 3rd generation, GM is making them so affordable, and now it’s being hinted that Toyota may offer a diesel in the new Tundra.
Toyota won't
Twin Turbo Diesel Hybrid Tundra!!!! That would be awesome.
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Love the Lead Foot and those 20” wheels, truck looks sinister
Incredible color for a truck
How popular would it have been if it would have been available for the XLT or XL models??
Not very. A F-250 / F-350 gas truck is much more capable. Look at what a failure the Titan with the Cummins was.
Chevy is to blame. They cut the cost of their inline 6 diesel to $995. That's a very good price for a diesel.
The 3.0 duramax is pretty nice.
@Adventure Fishing your thinking of the 6.6 not 3.0
@Adventure Fishing you have to show me proof because as far as I know it's a in house design.
@Adventure Fishing
The Duramax I-6 is a diesel engine available in select models of General Motors light duty trucks and SUVs. Applications include the Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Suburban, Tahoe, GMC Sierra 1500, Yukon, Yukon XL and the Cadillac Escalade. The Duramax diesel was developed together with Opel, who are manufacturing three- and four-cylinder versions displacing 1.5 and 2.0 liters, using the same engine architecture
GM gets better numbers also
Darn! Was looking forward to getting one once the chip shortage was rectified. Wanted the 30mpg fuel consumption & the cooler running engine while towing in mountains. My F250 7.3 is 20 years old, so I think I’ll keep it another few years…
No kidding. My 07’ 6.0 F-350 has 500,000 on the clock. I was looking to buy a new truck this year but with all the chip BS and shortages I’m going to keep driving it.
I don't have any issues pulling 6k camper in the CO mountains. Your next option is the Chevy diesel if you want diesel. And really if you tow in the mountains diesel is the way to go.
@@henryford2736 Why Chevy's Duramax over a Ram with a Cummins? Is it because of the engine or because of the stuff surrounding the engine (i.e. the rest of the truck)?
@@pronewbofficial
Get the duramax it is a better truck. O3-08 model years are good. I have 03 duramax 302,000 on the clock. Still runs strong
@@dannymiller4560 The older Duramax was great. I heard the new ones with EPA stuff have issues and don't last as long.
They never marketed this engine and could've made more sales
I agree 100%
You’re not wrong
Ford has a habit of not marketing what they don't care about and then blaming slow sales for it's demise. Aka 2011 Ranger.
And to top if off only available In lariat or higher, and people are so over timing belts, they are so 90s. Trucks should not have timing belts period.
True. They caved to pressure to put a diesel engine in. So they half you know whatd it. Now they can go well we gave the people what they wanted and it didn't work.
don't blame them, US diesel emissions regulations are just not feasible technically speaking
That’s what turned me away. Seems trivial but I don’t want to keep up with def fluid filling and the potential failures and maintenance of all the modern emissions devices.
Most people in the half-ton market want low cost and just have a truck to have a truck. They are status symbols. Also, the EcoBoost turned out to be a reliable and efficient engine. Anybody serious about towing is going to buy a diesel Super-Duty.
When they perfect compression ignition for gas, diesel will be dead.
I didn’t even think that motor was still A option? Not promoted very much plus power numbers stink
Honestly, I think Ford intentionally made the 3L Powerstroke numbers "stink". They put a CRAP-ton of R&D into the Ecoboost engines and their electric motors.
I think this is just Ford funneling customers where they want them to go.
@@Jeff-Vader_head_of_catering Jeff, couldn’t agree more, I’m a 25 year diesel mechanic and the push is to get rid of the diesels, we have six more fully electric mass transit buses coming this year, our bus fleets around 800, they are still trying to figure out how to charge these things since our buildings aren’t set up for charging stations and the buses can’t make a full day of ruining on a charge , it’s a whole new world for us, going to be interesting !!!!
@@Jeff-Vader_head_of_catering GM did the same thing for their small diesels....no media, no advertising, nothing. Almost as if they wanted it to fail in order to say “see, no one wanted a small diesel, so we pushed to hybrid and electric”
The overwhelming majority of people who buy trucks never need a truck. The fact that today's 1/2 ton trucks are really just cars with boxes is a testament to that fact.
I bought the 2020 F150 XLT with the tow package. It has the 3.5 Ecoboost. 36 gal tank. Now just over 4000 miles on it and 1 long road trip without an trailer being towed. Going off the max distance on an full fuel up. If I manly do in town driving. It will stay are 530 miles. One my long road trip. It said 694 miles. The truck I traded in on this truck. 2008 F350 King Ranch with the 6.4 powerstroke diesel engine. 98,000 miles on it. Max range after full up with 36 gallon tank and long range by the truck itself. 434 miles. No mods. Not DEF fuel tank. I do miss my F350 a lot. Yet my F150 XLT. If I have my way about it. The last truck I will ever buy. One amazing truck. I just wished I had it decades ago. Supper pleased. Thanks Ford.
is there a link to the blackout emblems? nothing shown on the TC site
When did you guys order it? I have an almost identical truck on order and it's doesn't have a production date and it's been 2 months.
Potential winner???? Like wtf?
Mine took 5 months to be built.
I have a 2019 Lariat and love it. It is a 2 WD and I get 29-31 mpg highway and 24-28 mpg city/county. I bought brand new and got it from a super high volume dealer in Ontario, Canada and got a $14000.00 discount, so basically got the diesel for no charge. Was a customer order, not off the lot!!
Drive it for about 100,000 miles and your fuel savings may catch up to the increased purchase price of the engine
I didn't know a 2WD truck was a thing
@@TotesMAGoats69 …I have no use for a 4X4, so why spend the extra on purchase or maintenance.
@@TotesMAGoats69 Well, don't need 4WD to tow or haul and most people don't ever actually need their 4WD.
@@farlesbarkley1022 2WD trucks are pointless unless you stay in southern Arizona and drive on tarmac only.
Bummer. Zero marketing, was looking to move to f150 3.0 in the next couple years. Maybe an xlt long bed will pop-up on a dealer lot later this year. If not I guess I will look at the other 1/2 ton diesel options. Slight hope they bring it back after Covid delays, since its imported (doubtful).
If you can’t find one get the Duramax, the half ton Ram is absolute crap.
I looked at the horsepower/torque chart again. 440 ft lbs @ 1750 rpm. That’s pretty dang good in my book.
exactly most hp/tq numbers are high up in the RPM
I think the difference is this truck makes low end torque😊
Mitchell , Why is it so hard to find a F-150 with the Coyote?
Great question Roger Brant!
Right now there are commodity constraints on that motor (meaning they can’t get enough of them built to meet demand). Also, a lot of people have been ordering (and loving) the new Ecoboost and the new power boost engines
Do the 2021 F150s power tailgate close by power key fob or do I have to manually close the tailgate? With GM trucks u have to manually close the tailgate.
The work surface could be used when the truck is in motion if the shifter were placed on the steering column or on the dash.
The scuttle I hear in Dearborn is we are getting ready to bring the Achates opposed piston engine to the F150 as a replacement to the 3.0.
is this only for the FY21 year or is it going to be forever?
I wouldn’t be surprised if also the diesel maybe didn’t meet future emissions and with the low take rate it didn’t make sense to invest in the engine
The fact that you had to pay $4000+ just to get it AND you had to get a mid level trim to do so while the competition was offering the diesels in just about every trim and not charging as much for it has nothing to do with it.
@@jldude84 those things I didn’t know. I never spec’d one on ford website
Ordered on January 30, built June 24, completed July 13 shipped and expected August 8-14 from Decatur. As of July 26 was in Louisville destined to arrive eastern NC on date I specified. Love your U-tubes.
The Diesel motor will outlast the eco boost and get better fuel economy. What killed this motor option is the extra cost, and lack of promotions. The future is hybrids and full electric.
If you need a diesel just get a super duty.
It's expensive, higher maintenance, weaker, slower, can't tow as much. What killed it is it doesn't have a place in the lineup other than to check the box of 'we offer a diesel too!'
I got a 5.0 for longevity.
Can't stand turbos except on diesels, and I gave up on them.
The last f150 had lots of problems with the transfer case and they could never fix it I had to change to Cheverolet after being a Ford fan since 2002
Beautiful diesel F150. Love the sound and mpg. I'm sure it would sell if Ford offered a more basic trim.
If they put in a xl 4x4 single cab short wheel base I would buy one!!!!
Literally everyone says they want something like that, but nobody buys them
I've been looking for that except diesel now 4 years.
Love your videos my friend....... very informative. One day before I pass.... my goal is to come see ya in person and try to buy a brand new Ford F150 Black Lariat 4x4 V8 🤞. Take care and stay safe.
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What are the wheels on the lifted truck at :30? Thanks!
I own a 2018 F150 3.0 diesel. I get better mpg towing and everyday driving compared to my buddies that have the eco boost.
I think Ford made a bad decision getting rid of the baby stroker. They should have advertised for it more, just as Ram and Chevrolet have. in the mountains there is no other option that will come even close to cutting it.
R.I.P. 3.0 PowerStroke, you will be missed.
The EcoBoost will eat the baby for lunch in the mountains
@@farlesbarkley1022 no, it would blow up. If you’re in the mountains, towing for that matter the low RPM of a diesel is mandatory. Along with the forced induction that the ecoboost has too. My friend tows travel trailers through Northern California and no dealer would sell him a gas pickup. One of his buddies pulled a little travel trailer (about 6000 lbs) with a 2013 F150 3.5, he got rid of the truck for a baby diesel after one trip. It ran too hot, went into limp mode and so on.
@@americantrucknation4891 People do it all the time, and they don't blow up. Really pretty hilarious to claim that only about 0.1% of F150's ever made are capable of towing a 6k lb travel trailer, the real world says otherwise
@@farlesbarkley1022 in the northern Cali mountains yes the baby stroker is the only one. I’ve towed much more with my 5.0 on flat ground and it handles it fine, if I was at max altitude than I wouldn’t ever do that.
@@farlesbarkley1022 ecoboost starts falling apart after 100k 🤷🏻♂️
i rented one for roadtrip mad comfy good mpg 22 23! most turns rides super smooth got great pick up and again comfort. I went home regretter my camry
I have a 2020 f150
Powerstoke I’ve had tons of issues with the motor, mine may be a special case but I doubt it
Is the paint on that extra thick or something?
You hit the nail on the head…basically too expensive for what it is and if you could have had it in lessor trims may have helped move it.
With Diesel running 50 Cents to a Dollar over, Gasoline, plus DEF. Does it make sense to get a Diesel, for an everyday commuter?
I just jumped from a Jeep GC eco diesel to F150 power boost . I had the GC for 6 years. With remote work, the emission regeneration process started to tick me off sine I hardly drove more than 10 miles a week. I would get hit 1 or 2 times a week for regen and have to drive for 30 minutes to complete it. So far, I am really happy with the PB and no longer held hostage when the vehicle wants to regen.
Mitch, I wish you would do a complaint video. Such as the sunroof always leaking and it is made that way.
i wish they had an option for a solid/sealed panoramic sunroof that doesn't open. sunroof mechanics always break down and are expensive to fix.
@@davidlrogers I agree.
One issue, I own a 2019 4wd 3.0ps, if you are constantly hauling a trailer the diesel will get better fuel economy over the Ecoboost up to the truck's capacity.
I drove one of these trucks recently & was incredibly impressed with it & I've owned newer F series trucks with the 2.7eco,3.5eco,3.5HOeco,5.0 NA,5.0 supercharged & 6.7 diesel.
Yes I'm very well versed in modern Ford trucks & this 3.0 diesel f150 is a very capable combo.
I'm sad to see it go.
it wasn't competitive period
Do you service trucks from Canada Toronto?
I feel like this is going to be one of those trucks that will be worth a bunch of money in 10 years because there weren't that many made.
Yes I got one. Holding on to it.
@@henryford2736 And loving every mile of it. Especially towing up in the Rockies.
Can you talk about the 21 F150 Tremor? Seems like it fell off the map. I went with a 22 F250 Tremor instead.
Great idea for a video! Thank you!
@@TCcustoms_ I second this. We need a full video about that truck. I want to buy one, I just haven't heard anything about it.
That's funny i ordered a 2021 F-150 Lariat with sports package and they no longer had Lead foot grey as an option. I ordered it December 2020.
I am receiving my ordered 2021 Lariat 502 sport iconic silver. You mentioned that I can purchase Ford Logo painted black for front and back. Is this correct?
Yes! Give us a call for the details! 205-491-0010
I bought a used 2018 Platinum F150 Powerstroke. I am getting the same kind of mileage that fordaeromax is reporting. NONE of the F150 EcoBoost engines get that kind of mileage.
Whatever you gave for it I'm sure you did well. They were $60k+ new. Smart move! I paid $60k for a 18 Lariat
It’s going to take more than a touch of sprayed on carbon gray on little spots on the truck.
Many 6.0 owners who bought their truck new have received class action lawsuit payments. Some owners have opted out of the class action lawsuit and went straight to a fraud case: one example is Charles Margeson of California, who was awarded $214,537.34 plus legal fees ($72,564.04 was for repayment of his 2006 F-350). Margeson, along with 5 other owners who opted out of the class action lawsuits, have been awarded over US$10 million.
You can buy a lot of gas for $3800. The break even point on the diesel vs. Gas must be over 100k miles
Actually it’s only around 22500 miles if you average 17mpg in a 3.5l Ecco like it do
Gasoline is cheaper and less maintenance cost.My son traded his King Ranch powersroke for the old school gasoline 7.3. It’s a simple pushrod engine.
Why does he keep calling the dude the potential winner?
They had to certify he met the criteria set by the rules of the give away
I thought the same thing, but then realized how litigious American society has become.
He gotta pay the taxes on it.
With Diesel prices on fuel its prohibitive for fleet use off farm sheets if you have propane as the main fuel on transits for less.
Such a shame he didn’t know what he won obviously he doesn’t watch very often lol
"potentially won".
From what I recall diesel for a truck is different then diesel for big heavy equipment . The difference is leaded and non leaded diesel, so using a diesel on sight to use the same fuel doesn’t make sense.
There is no difference at all between the two
@@somethingsomething3718 Leaded petrol contains lead additives while unleaded petrol doesn’t.
Two things wrong with this video, dropping the diesel & y'all called the wrong number.
Congrats to Mr. Jules
I would love that same truck in 3.5 or 5.0 and NO sun roof!!!
3.5 echo boost is amazing i've had mine for three years
i hate sunroofs
I lived most of my life in Brazil. There Ford offered the ranger with a 4 cylinder, 3L diesel, exactly 1/2 of your famous 6.0 diesel!
Trust me if the 6.0 is famous its for being crap
GM is axing the diesel for the upcoming 3rd gen Colorados/Canyons. They never advertised these either and the added costs did make them a little more expensive than was comfortable, but had great benefit. But yep, also going away. RIP.
I already have a 2021 Ford Bronco Sport.
Where are these black badges that he was talking about?
This model is selling well in the Philippines where diesel is the preferred engine.
Ford should not have limited the engine to lariat and higher trim for consumers. The diesel is way more efficient towing travel trailers and anything .let’s face it no one tows campers w half tons that weigh over 10 k so these are fine. Torque peak may not be as high as the 3.5 but it delivers the maximum torque a lot sooner. Emissions systems are too complicated on the diesels and to be honest the GM 3.0 inline 6 Duramax is much stronger engine from its inline 6 design to its power , torque ,acceleration ,and only 995.00 option ,Ford simply cannot compete,they are better off dropping it .
Lead foot gray? Looks like the old battleship gray to me.
The power stroke will be used for the next ranger generation overseas. USA is not known for Diesel engines preference, but people love them in other markets and the 3.0 v6 diesel would be a great engine for the ranger overseas.
Great-looking truck. I'd love to have the diesel.
So funny, if I received a call that I had won a car I would have been way more excited LOL. dude was like "yea, cool"
Doesn't the 3.0 diesel have better reliability than the eco V6 cause I know they've had problems before unless they've hammered those issues out.
The 3.0 was solid
I have the 2019 f-150 with the 3.0 diesel and will keep it forever now that I can’t get another. I know lots of guys with the ecoboost and they get ok mileage when the truck is empty, but horrible mileage when they work their trucks
I pretty much have this exact same truck except with the 3.5 Ecoboost. I love the color! I do understand why these are going away. They are not worth the money for the underperformance you get. We have diesel pumps on site at work as well and we would never buy this baby diesel. Most of our truck are 2 ton or larger but the F150’s are 5.0 or 3.5. and we just fill them up at the gas station.
Same engine is in use around the world in Land Rovers. But in the US it didn't stand a chance against the Ecoboost engines and the emission regulations here.
I’m the target market for this truck. I tow a 3,000-3,500 lb trailer everyday for my pool maintenance business.
I bought a 2021 1/2 ton Silverado Duramax diesel, and it’s fantastic. I’ve owned several F-150’s from the base motor, to the 5.0L and 3.5 EcoBoost. I even had a Ram EcoDiesel. I avoided the Ram EcoDiesel and Ford F-150 Powerstroke due to issues I read about on both. I’ve never been a GM guy, but they have blown me away with the performance on their 3.0L Duramax diesel. Ford really missed the opportunity to participate in this segment.
Ford charges $3800 and GM only charges $995? Hmmmm, seems like Ford dropped the ball on this one.
GMs don’t make it past the first oil change
@@raulperez4154 fords don't make it off the lot
Ford is still #1 selling truck! 2020 GM sold 138k and Ford 363k. So theres that!
In 2019 I HIGHLY considered the F150 3.0 diesel. I really like diesel engines, and tow occasionally for camping. My biggest problem was the price vs. super duty. Just now I built a loaded 150 diesel Platinum, and then a loaded 250 diesel Platinum. (apples to apples options between the two). The 150 is $74,920, the 250 is $82,125, or a difference of $7,200. When you are spending 75k, $7,000 difference is petty, and the super duty will hold its value better and tows like a dream. Not to mention when I purchased my super duty in 2019 incentives were great on it, and not on the 3.0 diesel that just came out. So the differential at the time was quite a bit less. So in my opinion one of the biggest problems is price point when compared to the super duty which is a far superior truck, especially when towing. Just my thoughts.
You guys put out lots of great videos with good info! Keep 'em rollin'.
I used to sell F150’s, and I gotta say. Every customer that I met wanted a 3.0L diesel, I talked into a 2.7L, 5.0, or 3.5 eco boost. It’s hard to justify a diesel when a salesman is explaining that the 2.7 is faster, cheaper, cheaper to maintain, uses cheaper fuel, and gets the same MPG. To me, the 2.7L eco boost killed the 3.0L power stoke in absolutely every category.
Not in the mountains
3.0 gets better mpg than the 2.7 and will outlast it twice over tho
@@americantrucknation4891 both scenarios the diesel is better than the 2.7 🤷🏻♂️
@@americantrucknation4891 read your earlier comment man, you said “no” to high altitudes regarding my comment about the diesel being the better engine in efficiency.
I miss read your comments, your 100% correct
He doesn't even watch your videos?!? 🤦 And didn't even seem to be excited...
It’s really not that great of a rig
Congrats to Jules and to TC Customs for the great giveaway
In 2018 I was in the market for an F-150. (I was trading in my 2012 Lariat F-250) and I looked at the diesel option, but at that time the diesel option (3.0) was only in the king ranch trim level, or maybe Lariat? Anyway, coming down from a very expensive truck to own and operate (my f-250) I didn’t want to spend 75k on a diesel truck that I could get better performance out of with a gasser. So to me, I think the 3.0 diesel needs to be available for cheaper on lower trim levels to be worth it.
Have they addressed the excessive undercarriage rust and lawsuits yet on the new 21’s??
I had the dodge eco diesel in my Ram. I got bad fuel destroyed my high end fuel system. It cost 10k to repair. I went back to gas and the F150. I’ll never have another diesel in a 1/2 ton truck. Also Ford is involved in a class action law for the same reason my truck failed. Maybe that’s why the discontinued it.
I’ve got a 2015 f150 can you have a giveaway for the level kit for that
The 3.0L Powerstroke was not meant to be in a full sized truck lol. It needs to be in the Ranger. The size, mpg and power ratings/ towing capacity would fit in great in the mid size class
This engine lives in the heart of the guy who wants his paid off truck to last over 200k miles. That does benefit Ford who wants you to buy a new truck when your eco-boost V6 starts causing you issues at 80k
Land Rover discontinued using the motor as well, moving to their Ingenium in-line 6 mild hybrid diesel in their rigs.
I didn’t know they had a diesel till they killed it off. I thought they only had 2 eco boost and the 5.0
And the 3.3 naturally aspirated V6. And the High Output 3.5 Eco. And now the Powerboost.
They also wouldn't allow anyone but fleet customers to buy it in a reasonable spec truck. You have to get it in lariat or above. Can't get it in XL or XLT unless you're buying a bunch.
Potential winner?
I tried to buy one for years. They refused to sell one in lower trim levels.
Dang. You know. I like my 2.7 a little bit more now 😂
Best engine Ford has. Great power and amazing fuel mileage. And I've yet to see a 2.7 with engine issues of any kind
@@wasupfool5692 graphite block handles tons of boost
@@02hreblue30 Ya its the best motor. Wish 3.5 had the same block.
Town and Country TV - If they would give you the option for the same size Diesel has the F250/350 have I think they would sell. I have the 3.5 Twin Turbo Eco in mine which I like. I had it in several new Trucks that I have bought. But when I tow anything even just a lawn mower I go down big time in fuel MPG
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My 21 will be in soon... Did not get sport appearance package because of the 2tone interior. In the future I will have Ft & R Bumpers painted to Carbonized Gray. As far as Ft Grill & Side Vents... Can these items be order/replaced in Carbonized Gray? Yes I will try n make it look like Sport Appearance Package 👍🏼
In my opinion... FORD screwed up doing this! Should have been solid color! Or at least a choice...