Matthew Arnold You’re right. I’ve done this with my students, and know how it *should* work. So when I watched the video, I was watching on my phone and not looking extremely closely. Watching again, I’d say he missed at least half.
I know he's got an entire course on managing unknown contacts and de-escalation is an awesome tool for dealing with rage-holes and the like. This video doesn't really show turning the corner between dealing with someone who can be de-escalated and someone who needs to be convinced that they need to de-select you as a target; as John Murphy says "you look like work, bad guys are not looking for work". In one scenario up front he's talking about predators getting w/in your space and the next he's talking about people who CAN be de-escalated - ie- the respect will buy you something. Respecting a predator on the other hand is continuing the interview and jumping into their jaws...I don't subscribe to being polite to predators- you need to fail their interview and burn the building down when you leave- ie- call the popo and let the interview go the other direction.
@@kennethcurtis1856 If you make off like you've forgotten something, you could also look down towards the floor, to make it look like you dropped something, so benefitting from the "look down at 45 degrees" trick
Doesn't seem to work for me (I also think that it's physically impossible for his peripheral vision to be as wide as he claims since light only travels in a straight line)
Fantastic ideas for elevator de-escalation, and your point of not offending/disrespecting/challenging potential threats. Not being good at acting, I've always been the proponent of looking harmless but surprising with swift and sudden violence to avoid challenging people, but this usually meant standing my ground in the elevator knowing that I am probably more skilled than the average person at this range. As I have become older and have many people depending on my livelihood, I can no longer continue using this approach. I like your approach better. Thanks for sharing this video.
Verbal de escalation skills are something that I’ve seen few people either possess or be willing to employ. Whether that’s a pride issue on the latter or not, idk, but don’t let your pride get you hurt. Create space and de escalate. Both give you time to prepare if they want to make it physical.
Active Self Protection Extra too many folks willing to put their life on the line over petty arguments or disagreements. I’ve been called everything but a good Christian and even taken a punch and smiled, asked if they felt better and walked away. But I also know that I’m not a fight for no reason type, if I’m going to fight, it’s because my life/another’s depends on it and that means I’m willing to do things that others may not be. You can survive looking like a bitch, you may not survive defending your pride or it could cost you significant years of your freedom.
@@ASPextra I recall you telling a story of taking one of your kids to the stop-n-rob for a soda or ice cream when they were not getting on well with Mom, then finding some guy wanting to sound tough and burn tires. Wasn't your response something like: "Yeah man, you're right. F. me." ?
Matthew Ellisor definitely hurt (at least in the instance I was speaking of) but I knew he’d put a lot, if not all he had into it, so smiling and asking if he felt better left him wondering what happens if I decide to play since I could take what he had to offer and smile at him after. Any number of responses like you said or my deal, will leave them wondering how wise it’d be to continue, which is the goal. It’s non aggressive in language but the act says “wait this guy just took everything I had and acted like it was nothing, shit”. However, I do not recommend this method and it was over a decade ago, my distance skills have improved enormously since then.
@@kindheart6411 Well shes still not in jail and lauging all the way to the bank so yea she pretty much she can do anything she wants. So mad that Trump didnt jail her like he had promised us he would. She is still out there free as a bird.
I live in NYC and have one or more of these interactions every day. The respect thing is huge. But if you're too friendly (like a tourist) they'll take advantage. Too tough and they'll want to fight. For me the sweet spot is to ignore them if I'm walking but answer with "sorry" if I'm stopped.
Always keep your eyes on their hands. A great boxing coach when asked the secret of winning said keep your head out of the way. You can move your head 6 inches alot faster than your opponent can reach out 3 feet. Always counter attack. Yelling draws attention. Move like lightning sound like thunder. Old army trick.
Green hat guy could have used that "ninja trick" in the simulation at 3:40. By not socially disengaging, the "bum" was instinctively encouraged to keep pressing the issue. You don't want to be rude and challenge their ego, but you also don't want to act like it's a conversation between friends. There's no psychological advantage to be gained by negotiating. Politely refuse, then decisively and confidently go on about your business. Remember also that your eyes aren't the only sense that can help keep you safe. Situational awareness is a good thing, but if you're always looking over your shoulder you're showing fear and making yourself a target.
@John Johnson There is such a thing as too much eye contact. Staring at people is a sign of aggression, especially to criminals who have something to hide. It's also a good way to get tunnel vision and lose sight of other potential threats around you.
I take the approach from John Murphy... I look and sound like work. "You don't ****ing want what's in my pocket." I retreat, but if in the face of what I've just said, they come forward... that dog has made a deliberate choice to bite a known prickly thing that's going to change the trajectory of their day/month/year/life. Now I know some dogs might be that rabid, but if they come after a known prickly critter, what do you think they'd do to a soft furry one?
My 3 Sons most don’t have the sense to realize you’re preparing/prepared for action of some sort. The good criminals see that and move on to a new less aware target.
that reminds me of one time, when a drunk guy was coming up to my brothers parked work truck to ask for a job he later claimed. (i was in the store) my brother hit the loud 90s ford power lock. the guy took offense and got pretty PISSSED lol
@@ASPextra By gosh you are right. I missed that. The index finger ridge is helpful but I still think a spot for the thumb might help. I will practice with the inert and try to develop some muscle memory.
I tell em the truth,I'm Broke! No1 asks a 2nd time! Cant get blood out of a stone. Problem is I actually look poor which I I didn realize. Truth is I'm broke
Don't verbally respond at all. Just keep going. If you're pumping gas, stop and leave. Also, develop a blank expression as opposed to your normal friendly one. Good stuff here.
Nope.... if I'm pumping gas, I stay by the pump.... I'm just waiting for the day some loud mouth says something and I douse him gas. Then he gets mad and puffs up and juuuuust before he stomps over to me for a scuffle, I pull a lighter out my pocket and give him a hard stare down. I'm been dreaming about that scenario for years.
@@richj3168 My wife and friends call me the Curmudgeon for this very reason! And it works. I don't get approached by many people. Funny though one that had tried again a few years later at a different location. I pointed out I remembered him and the fact he was better dressed than I was. He turned and walked away.
i love the channel......but his head movements are way more exaggerated when he moves back 6 inches.....anyone who played any contact sport could pick up on his movements.......i get the point that space save lifes but 6" is a little ridiculous for an everyday street encounter
Then you haven't sparred in your life. Practice reacting to a simple punch at those distances and you'll see the difference for yourselves. You're welcome.
I learned from a guy in south central Los Angeles. Man asks for money Me: get the fuck outa my face..loud and strong Works every time 😂😝. Really, they leave.
The dude: "His interception rate was 100%"
Everyone else: "Yes, but actually no."
Haven DeZeeuw By “interception”, he meant “touch me before I touch you”. The crowd just didn’t completely get that point. But he’s absolutely correct.
@@JeremiahBlasi watch the video, he does not intercept one time
He doesn’t mean stop it. He means that he made first contact.
@@JeremiahBlasi He absolutely did NOT make first contact on several of them
Matthew Arnold You’re right. I’ve done this with my students, and know how it *should* work. So when I watched the video, I was watching on my phone and not looking extremely closely. Watching again, I’d say he missed at least half.
Jon this is great. Would love to see more videos about de-escalation and verbal judo.
I know he's got an entire course on managing unknown contacts and de-escalation is an awesome tool for dealing with rage-holes and the like. This video doesn't really show turning the corner between dealing with someone who can be de-escalated and someone who needs to be convinced that they need to de-select you as a target; as John Murphy says "you look like work, bad guys are not looking for work". In one scenario up front he's talking about predators getting w/in your space and the next he's talking about people who CAN be de-escalated - ie- the respect will buy you something. Respecting a predator on the other hand is continuing the interview and jumping into their jaws...I don't subscribe to being polite to predators- you need to fail their interview and burn the building down when you leave- ie- call the popo and let the interview go the other direction.
“Verbal judo” de-escalation is a plus skill set.
“Distance buys you time; Time buys you options.” Thanks Mr John C.
Those that manage the distance manage the damage.
@@kennethcurtis1856 If you make off like you've forgotten something, you could also look down towards the floor, to make it look like you dropped something, so benefitting from the "look down at 45 degrees" trick
Eyes down at a 45 and 45 slant left or right is great information. Thanks.
Doesn't seem to work for me (I also think that it's physically impossible for his peripheral vision to be as wide as he claims since light only travels in a straight line)
30-40? ZERO! after? 40-50%? ONE HUNDRED PERCENT LOL that really made me laugh for some reason.
We love our POM spray. Thank you, @ASP.
Brought up a great peripheral vision point that I'd been loosely aware of and using but never conciously. That's great!
Really liked this video it puts a better prospective on how important distance is .
That “ninja trick” at 7:30 if freaking amazing. Definitely a new tool for my kit!
Fantastic ideas for elevator de-escalation, and your point of not offending/disrespecting/challenging potential threats. Not being good at acting, I've always been the proponent of looking harmless but surprising with swift and sudden violence to avoid challenging people, but this usually meant standing my ground in the elevator knowing that I am probably more skilled than the average person at this range. As I have become older and have many people depending on my livelihood, I can no longer continue using this approach. I like your approach better. Thanks for sharing this video.
I absolutely love CHuck Haggard videos.
Worth their weight in gold.
Me too!!
Boy, I've got to get into one of his classes! This is great material!
Do it. If Chuck ever comes to your area, take his class.
@@ASPextra I'll definitely be putting it on my list to watch for.
Thanks for sharing this.
Wow!
Im amazed by all the good info in this video...
Thank you
This series is so helpful. I watch a few times a month to help with my trialing
Great video. Most of it makes perfect commonsense but it's great to hear the science behind managing unknown contacts.
Verbal de escalation skills are something that I’ve seen few people either possess or be willing to employ. Whether that’s a pride issue on the latter or not, idk, but don’t let your pride get you hurt. Create space and de escalate. Both give you time to prepare if they want to make it physical.
I totally agree with you. Practicing those ego controls is so important!
Active Self Protection Extra too many folks willing to put their life on the line over petty arguments or disagreements. I’ve been called everything but a good Christian and even taken a punch and smiled, asked if they felt better and walked away. But I also know that I’m not a fight for no reason type, if I’m going to fight, it’s because my life/another’s depends on it and that means I’m willing to do things that others may not be.
You can survive looking like a bitch, you may not survive defending your pride or it could cost you significant years of your freedom.
@@ASPextra I recall you telling a story of taking one of your kids to the stop-n-rob for a soda or ice cream when they were not getting on well with Mom, then finding some guy wanting to sound tough and burn tires. Wasn't your response something like: "Yeah man, you're right. F. me." ?
@@imsolost7886 How much would that hurt? Hit a guy and his response is "I forgive you."
Matthew Ellisor definitely hurt (at least in the instance I was speaking of) but I knew he’d put a lot, if not all he had into it, so smiling and asking if he felt better left him wondering what happens if I decide to play since I could take what he had to offer and smile at him after.
Any number of responses like you said or my deal, will leave them wondering how wise it’d be to continue, which is the goal. It’s non aggressive in language but the act says “wait this guy just took everything I had and acted like it was nothing, shit”.
However, I do not recommend this method and it was over a decade ago, my distance skills have improved enormously since then.
What a great video; thank you!
Great presentation. Lots to think about.
Elevator lesson was real useful
Great information! Easy to apply.
Great, as always!
I gotta take a class with Chuck. Self defense genius.
This is awesome training! We need more stuff like this!
I like that tactic of pretending you forgot something.
Excellent videos, Chuck! Learned a lot; thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
@6:50
"kay everybody relax and watch me"
Everybody: drops their hands
Patrick: im still a star fish XD
Great stuff, Chuck Haggard is great! I want to take an intense week class with him and Craig Douglas.
"It's a Clinton method admit nothing, deny everything." Lol
and then shout "what difference does it make?"
@@kindheart6411 Well shes still not in jail and lauging all the way to the bank so yea she pretty much she can do anything she wants. So mad that Trump didnt jail her like he had promised us he would. She is still out there free as a bird.
@@wc7715 maybe because its all a show and real change comes from large corporations or tragic events that could cause a rebellion
what did he say on 8:01 gimme your phone ? i didnt catch it
I live in NYC and have one or more of these interactions every day. The respect thing is huge. But if you're too friendly (like a tourist) they'll take advantage. Too tough and they'll want to fight. For me the sweet spot is to ignore them if I'm walking but answer with "sorry" if I'm stopped.
See Jocko Willink about not entering in 'their' world.
AWESOME!
Important stuff here!
At what point do you stop avoiding and keeping the distance and start taking action to protect yourself?
Usually when you don't have the option to keep distance and avoid.
Always keep your eyes on their hands. A great boxing coach when asked the secret of winning said keep your head out of the way. You can move your head 6 inches alot faster than your opponent can reach out 3 feet. Always counter attack. Yelling draws attention. Move like lightning sound like thunder. Old army trick.
Eyes, hands, waist.
Even the range got quite to listen to his lessons.
I found POM wonderful at the grocery store.....my attacker was not deterred, but his immune system got quite a boost!
This is your average walk to work in Seattle right now.
Green hat guy could have used that "ninja trick" in the simulation at 3:40. By not socially disengaging, the "bum" was instinctively encouraged to keep pressing the issue. You don't want to be rude and challenge their ego, but you also don't want to act like it's a conversation between friends. There's no psychological advantage to be gained by negotiating. Politely refuse, then decisively and confidently go on about your business. Remember also that your eyes aren't the only sense that can help keep you safe. Situational awareness is a good thing, but if you're always looking over your shoulder you're showing fear and making yourself a target.
@John Johnson There is such a thing as too much eye contact. Staring at people is a sign of aggression, especially to criminals who have something to hide. It's also a good way to get tunnel vision and lose sight of other potential threats around you.
I realize that the concept is important but that interception rate was not 100% 😂
I take the approach from John Murphy... I look and sound like work. "You don't ****ing want what's in my pocket." I retreat, but if in the face of what I've just said, they come forward... that dog has made a deliberate choice to bite a known prickly thing that's going to change the trajectory of their day/month/year/life. Now I know some dogs might be that rabid, but if they come after a known prickly critter, what do you think they'd do to a soft furry one?
I backed up from an aggressive guy closing distance on me, he noticed and said, “what are you afraid of,” I said, not a damn thing!
My 3 Sons most don’t have the sense to realize you’re preparing/prepared for action of some sort. The good criminals see that and move on to a new less aware target.
@@imsolost7886 Right. I don't need to outrun the bear.
Matthew Ellisor nope, I just want enough space to bring in party favors to the dance.
that reminds me of one time, when a drunk guy was coming up to my brothers parked work truck to ask for a job he later claimed. (i was in the store) my brother hit the loud 90s ford power lock. the guy took offense and got pretty PISSSED lol
@@imsolost7886 Well said. But your sons will thank you in 15 years.
A size 12 is about 10 inches
Nice. I have my wife and all my kids do the 45 degree ninja skill.
Probably not a good idea to get off of an elevator in some random dark hallway floor when Freddy and Jason coming in.
NO way was it even close to 100 % second time . i even slowed it down to quarter speed .
Thank you for bleeping the naughty words......
Wonder if the lady in the background was there for training?
Losee Rich no
Depends on the training ;)
Pom needs a thumb slot or bump so you can line it up without looking.
There is an index finger bump.
@@ASPextra By gosh you are right. I missed that. The index finger ridge is helpful but I still think a spot for the thumb might help. I will practice with the inert and try to develop some muscle memory.
the thumb is what you use to actuate the spray, so it should index on top of the safety. :)
👍👍
Lol that's one fat Pillsbury dough-boy 0:36, time to do some running boy
The Clinton method. 😂
Normally theres a second perp, so probably consider loosing a dollar and your watch unless you have insane skills and a gun and luck and awareness.
I once saw a video on ASP of a girl being beat w a bike lock
I tell em the truth,I'm Broke! No1 asks a 2nd time! Cant get blood out of a stone. Problem is I actually look poor which I I didn realize. Truth is I'm broke
Don't verbally respond at all. Just keep going. If you're pumping gas, stop and leave. Also, develop a blank expression as opposed to your normal friendly one.
Good stuff here.
Yeah I try and look pissed off when I'm out in public lol. Pisses off the wife though.
Nope.... if I'm pumping gas, I stay by the pump.... I'm just waiting for the day some loud mouth says something and I douse him gas. Then he gets mad and puffs up and juuuuust before he stomps over to me for a scuffle, I pull a lighter out my pocket and give him a hard stare down.
I'm been dreaming about that scenario for years.
@John Johnson I agree n but anywhere near the face will suffice because the fumes will cause some good tearing up.
@@richj3168 My wife and friends call me the Curmudgeon for this very reason! And it works. I don't get approached by many people. Funny though one that had tried again a few years later at a different location. I pointed out I remembered him and the fact he was better dressed than I was. He turned and walked away.
The first was wasn't 0% and the second one wasn't 100%.. what is this dude talking about??
Occulta Veritas Listen to what he meant when he was talking about interception. He was absolutely correct.
I 100% agree with you. What's he talking about
i love the channel......but his head movements are way more exaggerated when he moves back 6 inches.....anyone who played any contact sport could pick up on his movements.......i get the point that space save lifes but 6" is a little ridiculous for an everyday street encounter
Then you haven't sparred in your life. Practice reacting to a simple punch at those distances and you'll see the difference for yourselves.
You're welcome.
@@trevorphillips7128 i have sparred
@@trevorphillips7128 its like the Ninja Godan test.......they pass who they want to
@@btd7477 Okay then
Lol I'm lost in what his verbal is compared to what his physical is. Anyone else agree
De-Ny til you Die.
"His interception rate was 100%." No.
I learned from a guy in south central Los Angeles.
Man asks for money
Me: get the fuck outa my face..loud and strong
Works every time 😂😝. Really, they leave.
That volunteer sucked. He had the worst reflexes.
dont JW claim to be kind?
.... i'm not learning from a liar... if you have to lie to get your point across.... come on. was not 100%
Bye.
Unsure about this . May not be the best advice or tutorial.
He's the national SME. It's the best advice.
@@ASPextra SME = Subject Matter Expert?