It's important to make the distinction of Megabytes per second MBps and Megabits per second mbps. Card speeds are rated in MBps whereas camera codecs are generally shown in mbps. 8 Megabit's equal 1 Megabyte, which is why you don't need a 200MBps card to record a 200mbps file.
I found an additional processor in the cards, java games and android games use and activate the instruction set. It doesn’t consume more power. The extra processor is independent from the file system or the capacity. It mainly does physical emulation, better gaming and high accuracy during driving and flight sim games. Hc causes the opponents to be hostile to each other, xc does Physx sometimes insane, at high speed games, and better winning. I noticed, when cards are changed, they learn from each other when swapped in the slot, and games are run. Multiplayer games raise the accuracy of the card. Inserted in other devices, the new features are used in the other device. Non hc or xc cards such as 1 gb have a mixture of hc and xc, not quite compatible with phones, the cars fly in an insane way. Probably supports older pc physx.
TY for mentioning UHS 2 buss. Nice video BTY. Since these are so small I usually carry my old cards in my backpack holder. When I travel people are always looking for a card and I just give then one of the old ones. Everyone wins. LOL
What would you recommend for an EOSR that I will be using for street photography and maybe some marketing videos for businesses such as real estate or restaurant? This is my first camera and first exposure to the creative space so I don't know much at all about this kind of stuff, cheers
Good video and true story. When I changed from normal SanDisk Ultra to Extreme Pros it was a game changer. But I'm quite impressed that you can talk about this subject for almost 10 minutes. 😀👍
A great place to compare memory cards is cameramemoryspeed.com, it doesn't have all the camera and card models but it still gives a great idea on what you're paying for
I have Sony r3 and I use Sandisk 128gb 170mB extreme pro for slot 1 and 2. I just changed the menu to shoot at jpeg slot 1 raw slot 2. I normally don’t shoot raw since I haven’t learn to process with Lightroom yet. I only transfer my jpeg to my iPhone and edit using Snapseed My questions are 1, am I using the right Sandisk card for my camera ( I have Sony 6500 and rx10IV also using the same cards ) and 2, if I want to transfer my jpeg images only from r3 to iPhone 13 can I selectively do that leaving the raw card alone? 3 does the two cards for r3 be the same Sandisk read write cards or can it be different. 🙏
I chose the SanDisk Pro, I did some test against an Ultra: the former has a write speed of 80.3MB/s, the latter averaged 25.8MB/s, so a significantly slower performance (Blackmagicdesign Disk Speed Test on a MacBook Air 2015). I'll probably also be getting a 64GB Extreme for storage purpose (video and time lapse), I recently upgraded from a 50D to a 6D2 and while with the 15MP sensor I can totally get away with a 16GB CF, even when shooting wildlife, with the new one I feel very tight with just one 32GB card. Anyway, it's probably best to skip the Ultras and go straight to the Extreme or Extreme Pro, as they will last longer
I agree with you for the most part. But you forgot the other half of the equation. I shoot weddings and over the course of an 8 hr day, we shoot at least 3500 images, between my wife and I. I typical use a 128gb M series Sony SD card with a rated read speed of 260 mb/sec. Even so, a nearly full 128 gb card takes more than 20 minutes to copy over to my iMac over usb 3.0. Even though my Sony A7RIII can take advantage of sdxc cards, I’m looking for faster transfer speeds at the end of a day of shooting. And for a wedding, that’s about an hour just to transfer files to my desktop -afterwhich I import to LR.
I normally just buy extreme pro simply because in the future when I buy new camera bodies I will cards that will work fine in them. Also memory cards now are not that expensive especially considering most people will try and shop around to get the price for a lens, which is on average is way over £500. So why skimp on £14 v £17 for memory card !
I bought a "silver", "golden" and "black" card of these SanDisc cards to test with which one my camera is clearing the buffer faster, when I intentionally fill it up with RAW files in burst mode. The difference in performance was noticeable. The silver was clearing the buffer in 12 seconds, the the golden in 9 seconds and the black in 7 seconds. In total - the black was nearly 2 times faster than the silver one. I'm talking about 32GB UHS-I cards of the 3 flavors. My advice would be - buy the black ones, because the price difference is negligible in like £6-7 per 32GB card, while the performance is indeed better.
Agree with you here for the extra few pounds it makes sense, I think where it's questionable now is UHS-I Vs UHS-II As not all cameras will a UHS-II slot are actually capable of the full 300MB/s write speed but the cards are quite a bit more expensive
I measured my SD cards a few weeks ago. All the same like (Sandisk pro). They ranged from 90-128. One rated 44 and I returned it as defective. Yes, slow cards can interfere even with your focusing speed in high fps.
Are there any issues with using micro SD cards with adapter in a Sony A7iii for 4K recording? The speeds seem similar for UHS-1 cards but the prices are lower so I can get more storage.
Great vid. But I've also seen ppl talking about the write speed of some modern cameras not being able to keep up with some of the memory cards. Dunno if this is true or not
It's the progress of technology, it's nothing really new. There is the USH standards which will have minimum and maximum speeds to become eligible, so anything below about 150MB/s is classes as UHS-I UHS-II is anything up to 314MB/s, after which it classes as UHS-II. So some cameras will be capable of close to UHS-II speeds but not quite fast enough so would class as UHS-I, some will just qualify as UHS-II, some will be closer to UHS-III, that's why you shouldn't just take stuff at face value of speeds etc, instead research what sort of write speeds people are actually getting from the camera in real terms and then get cards that are at least as good if not better (but no point going massively over if expensive)
Beware of fake SD cards. If you find a card that has an amazingly low price for its apparent specs, you probably have found one of these. They often are much slower than advertised and often they are much smaller in capacity. The cards controller lies to you when showing the available memory, however, when the cards get filled with data, it writes without a warning in address ranges that don´t exist and your data will be lost. ALLWAYS buy from a trusted seller that has been in the market for several years, never from some unknown foreign internet dealer. Testing tools for download to identify fake SD-cards do exist. Imagine shooting a wedding or an expensive trip to another country and you come home with only a small fracture of your photos.
i bought a new sandisk extreme pro 64GB and it writes with only 17MB/s. its supposed to write 85MB/s. whats probably the problem there ? if it was like 70MB/s i would say its not good buy tolerable, but 17MB/s is so slow, its a waste of money to pay the premium price, i could have got another sd card that slow for alot less. these extreme pro 64gb were 80€ few years ago.
Just noticed this on UA-cam, I have just got a SanDisk 64 GB Extreme PLUS Read up to 150MB/s Write up to 60 MB/s After the test with SpeedOut it shows Read 18.446 and write 18.935 What an earth are you supposed to believe????
I got 4 SDXC Kingston cards with 90/80mps and 4 with 90/45mps all 128GB, enough to shoot.. forever without running out of space)) That's one of the points I didn't get 7D2 or 5D4 and especially 1DX2, because of expensive CompactFlash cards and when I saw a price of CFast cards O_o
Thumbs up for saying quid! I don't' know why but as a yank I think it is funny when I hear that. Do you guys still call americans yanks? I was using the Sandisk 80mb/s for the longest time on my 80D, and full run on the burst I would get about 20-21 shots shooting in raw before the buffer hit the brick wall. Got some of the 95mb/s for just a little more money and now I get 24 shots. Doesn't seem like a big gain, but that is shooting with the shutter fully pressed until it fills. Shooting normally in short burst of 2-3 shots it is a definite gain, since I can shoot for much longer before I have the buffer issue. Something to keep in mind though is that not all cameras can benefit from a faster speed. Some of the entry level cameras don't support these fast cards, and even if they did it wouldn't make much difference since they probably can't take advantage of the added speed due to lower frame rates anyway. Since the 80mb/s cards are so cheap that is typically what I recommend to anyone with these cameras, as it gives them a good and reliable card for almost nothing that is still useful if they upgrade to a faster camera later.
Exactly what i done with my new camera i bought cards that matches write speed of camera. I keep my 2 old ones when i dont need high speed. I bought kensington that works fine at a good price. Take care of not genuine low cost cards.
That's usually more a result of the camera, the only possible work around is some cameras don't split up files if you use an SDXC card (64GB or larger) - however that's not a guarantee
I personally disagree with you, buy a faster memory card is better for future upgrade if you change your camera or you want to use your card in any other camera you will not find any issues and you will save some money you don't need to buy a new card, faster memory like the one you have 95 is a good deal
Don't get me wrong, I wasn't saying only get as fast as your camera can handle, it was more that there is no benefit to just getting the most expensive cards if your camera can't handle it ... I.e. no point buying a £100+ USH-II card for lower end cameras.
cards are not lenses... card prices drop very fast. i bought the "best" card 6 month earlier, now i could buy 2 of them for the same price. actually you could save some money if you know what fits your needs.
HASSAN ALHAYKI that's well and good, but the best cards cost hundreds of dollars for those cards with the 300ms read/299ms write. If my camera can only do say 60ms, there isn't a point in wasting my money, especially if I'm not getting paid for shoots, or not planning on upgrading my body in the next few weeks. Would I get the 95ms over the 80ms? Sure that's only a difference of a few dollars, but buying a $500-600 memory card is crazy.
Your ExtremePro 64GB is a Fake Card. 18/11MB in your Speedup test is the evidence. The Color of the letters are different to the 32GB SanDisk. Yellow vs. golden letters!
I knew it wasn't a true ExtremePro going in, (it isn't even labelled as SanDisk but rather as Kimsnot) I bought it to compare against genuine cards for the purpose of this video
Are there any issues with using micro SD cards with adapter in a Sony A7iii for 4K recording? The speeds seem similar for UHS-1 cards but the prices are lower so I can get more storage.
You can use MicroSD however I'd generally suggest using the media format that your camera is designed for - with needing to use an adaptor it presents a potential drop in write speed so your footage maybe suffer from dropped frames, there is also the issue of heat because its smaller and inside and adaptor it may struggle with temps with prolonged shooting
Excellent explanation of a critical part but often overlooked part of shooting video.
Best explanation on this subject I’ve seen. Thanks.
Thanks 😊
It's important to make the distinction of Megabytes per second MBps and Megabits per second mbps. Card speeds are rated in MBps whereas camera codecs are generally shown in mbps. 8 Megabit's equal 1 Megabyte, which is why you don't need a 200MBps card to record a 200mbps file.
I use Sandisk Extreme Pro cards. 64gb in the camera with a couple 32s as back-up.
I found an additional processor in the cards, java games and android games use and activate the instruction set. It doesn’t consume more power. The extra processor is independent from the file system or the capacity. It mainly does physical emulation, better gaming and high accuracy during driving and flight sim games. Hc causes the opponents to be hostile to each other, xc does Physx sometimes insane, at high speed games, and better winning. I noticed, when cards are changed, they learn from each other when swapped in the slot, and games are run. Multiplayer games raise the accuracy of the card. Inserted in other devices, the new features are used in the other device. Non hc or xc cards such as 1 gb have a mixture of hc and xc, not quite compatible with phones, the cars fly in an insane way. Probably supports older pc physx.
Angelbird AV pro are rated at minimum 90 mb/s (if you get the v90) or minimum 60 mb/s (v60) expensive but the minimum write speeds are awesome
TY for mentioning UHS 2 buss. Nice video BTY. Since these are so small I usually carry my old cards in my backpack holder. When I travel people are always looking for a card and I just give then one of the old ones. Everyone wins. LOL
You are legend at explaining man! People make things so complicated. thank you, love ur vids dude
What would you recommend for an EOSR that I will be using for street photography and maybe some marketing videos for businesses such as real estate or restaurant? This is my first camera and first exposure to the creative space so I don't know much at all about this kind of stuff, cheers
Good video and true story. When I changed from normal SanDisk Ultra to Extreme Pros it was a game changer. But I'm quite impressed that you can talk about this subject for almost 10 minutes. 😀👍
Thanks for sharing mate, very very useful info!
Hello! Interesting topic. How can I measure my card speed? Any suggested program?
A great place to compare memory cards is cameramemoryspeed.com, it doesn't have all the camera and card models but it still gives a great idea on what you're paying for
Nice tip Felix! I will have to check that out when I get home from work later.
I have Sony r3 and I use Sandisk 128gb 170mB extreme pro for slot 1 and 2. I just changed the menu to shoot at jpeg slot 1 raw slot 2. I normally don’t shoot raw since I haven’t learn to process with Lightroom yet. I only transfer my jpeg to my iPhone and edit using Snapseed My questions are 1, am I using the right Sandisk card for my camera ( I have Sony 6500 and rx10IV also using the same cards ) and 2, if I want to transfer my jpeg images only from r3 to iPhone 13 can I selectively do that leaving the raw card alone? 3 does the two cards for r3 be the same Sandisk read write cards or can it be different. 🙏
What software to use for conducting the speed tests?
I chose the SanDisk Pro, I did some test against an Ultra: the former has a write speed of 80.3MB/s, the latter averaged 25.8MB/s, so a significantly slower performance (Blackmagicdesign Disk Speed Test on a MacBook Air 2015). I'll probably also be getting a 64GB Extreme for storage purpose (video and time lapse), I recently upgraded from a 50D to a 6D2 and while with the 15MP sensor I can totally get away with a 16GB CF, even when shooting wildlife, with the new one I feel very tight with just one 32GB card. Anyway, it's probably best to skip the Ultras and go straight to the Extreme or Extreme Pro, as they will last longer
I agree with you for the most part. But you forgot the other half of the equation. I shoot weddings and over the course of an 8 hr day, we shoot at least 3500 images, between my wife and I. I typical use a 128gb M series Sony SD card with a rated read speed of 260 mb/sec. Even so, a nearly full 128 gb card takes more than 20 minutes to copy over to my iMac over usb 3.0. Even though my Sony A7RIII can take advantage of sdxc cards, I’m looking for faster transfer speeds at the end of a day of shooting. And for a wedding, that’s about an hour just to transfer files to my desktop -afterwhich I import to LR.
I normally just buy extreme pro simply because in the future when I buy new camera bodies I will cards that will work fine in them.
Also memory cards now are not that expensive especially considering most people will try and shop around to get the price for a lens, which is on average is way over £500. So why skimp on £14 v £17 for memory card !
If iam recording full HD 60 frames per second, is a sd Sandisk ultra 64 gs enough?
I bought a "silver", "golden" and "black" card of these SanDisc cards to test with which one my camera is clearing the buffer faster, when I intentionally fill it up with RAW files in burst mode. The difference in performance was noticeable. The silver was clearing the buffer in 12 seconds, the the golden in 9 seconds and the black in 7 seconds. In total - the black was nearly 2 times faster than the silver one. I'm talking about 32GB UHS-I cards of the 3 flavors. My advice would be - buy the black ones, because the price difference is negligible in like £6-7 per 32GB card, while the performance is indeed better.
Agree with you here for the extra few pounds it makes sense, I think where it's questionable now is UHS-I Vs UHS-II
As not all cameras will a UHS-II slot are actually capable of the full 300MB/s write speed but the cards are quite a bit more expensive
I measured my SD cards a few weeks ago. All the same like (Sandisk pro). They ranged from 90-128. One rated 44 and I returned it as defective. Yes, slow cards can interfere even with your focusing speed in high fps.
Thanks for the vid. Very informative.
Nice video. Thanks for the info.
Hi! Great Vid. I just recently got a Canon EOS Rebel SL2 , I am a little confused as to what card to get. Can you provide some input?
SL2 has a max write speed of about 40MB/s, so any card faster than that really.
I would suggest checking out the gold SanDisk Extreme
amazing video and very helpful, thank you :D
Are there any issues with using micro SD cards with adapter in a Sony A7iii for 4K recording? The speeds seem similar for UHS-1 cards but the prices are lower so I can get more storage.
I am using canon70d I am planning to buy 80MB/s San dick 533x can I use
Since I got Sony tough 32GB SD cards and I don't bother any SD cards anymore.
Thank you for explain
Great vid. But I've also seen ppl talking about the write speed of some modern cameras not being able to keep up with some of the memory cards. Dunno if this is true or not
It's the progress of technology, it's nothing really new.
There is the USH standards which will have minimum and maximum speeds to become eligible, so anything below about 150MB/s is classes as UHS-I
UHS-II is anything up to 314MB/s, after which it classes as UHS-II.
So some cameras will be capable of close to UHS-II speeds but not quite fast enough so would class as UHS-I, some will just qualify as UHS-II, some will be closer to UHS-III, that's why you shouldn't just take stuff at face value of speeds etc, instead research what sort of write speeds people are actually getting from the camera in real terms and then get cards that are at least as good if not better (but no point going massively over if expensive)
@@DaveMcKeegan I'm sorry, WHAT?! Nonsense.
Beware of fake SD cards. If you find a card that has an amazingly low price for its apparent specs, you probably have found one of these. They often are much slower than advertised and often they are much smaller in capacity. The cards controller lies to you when showing the available memory, however, when the cards get filled with data, it writes without a warning in address ranges that don´t exist and your data will be lost. ALLWAYS buy from a trusted seller that has been in the market for several years, never from some unknown foreign internet dealer. Testing tools for download to identify fake SD-cards do exist. Imagine shooting a wedding or an expensive trip to another country and you come home with only a small fracture of your photos.
whats the best sd cards for IP Cameras ??
i bought a new sandisk extreme pro 64GB and it writes with only 17MB/s. its supposed to write 85MB/s. whats probably the problem there ? if it was like 70MB/s i would say its not good buy tolerable, but 17MB/s is so slow, its a waste of money to pay the premium price, i could have got another sd card that slow for alot less. these extreme pro 64gb were 80€ few years ago.
Just noticed this on UA-cam, I have just got a SanDisk 64 GB Extreme PLUS Read up to 150MB/s Write up to 60 MB/s After the test with SpeedOut it shows Read 18.446 and write 18.935 What an earth are you supposed to believe????
I got 4 SDXC Kingston cards with 90/80mps and 4 with 90/45mps all 128GB, enough to shoot.. forever without running out of space)) That's one of the points I didn't get 7D2 or 5D4 and especially 1DX2, because of expensive CompactFlash cards and when I saw a price of CFast cards O_o
Thanks for this Boos
Thumbs up for saying quid! I don't' know why but as a yank I think it is funny when I hear that. Do you guys still call americans yanks?
I was using the Sandisk 80mb/s for the longest time on my 80D, and full run on the burst I would get about 20-21 shots shooting in raw before the buffer hit the brick wall. Got some of the 95mb/s for just a little more money and now I get 24 shots. Doesn't seem like a big gain, but that is shooting with the shutter fully pressed until it fills. Shooting normally in short burst of 2-3 shots it is a definite gain, since I can shoot for much longer before I have the buffer issue.
Something to keep in mind though is that not all cameras can benefit from a faster speed. Some of the entry level cameras don't support these fast cards, and even if they did it wouldn't make much difference since they probably can't take advantage of the added speed due to lower frame rates anyway. Since the 80mb/s cards are so cheap that is typically what I recommend to anyone with these cameras, as it gives them a good and reliable card for almost nothing that is still useful if they upgrade to a faster camera later.
Exactly what i done with my new camera i bought cards that matches write speed of camera.
I keep my 2 old ones when i dont need high speed. I bought kensington that works fine at a good price.
Take care of not genuine low cost cards.
What card is best for my Geolink GO PT camera ??
Are you referring to the security camera?
They take micro SD rather than regular SD cards.
Any class 10 card should be more than sufficient for that
Is there a SD card that wont split my files every 4gb for my Canon 70d?
That's usually more a result of the camera, the only possible work around is some cameras don't split up files if you use an SDXC card (64GB or larger) - however that's not a guarantee
Thanks Dave that's what I thought also, it's my camera..
it's bits not bytes though : o
Actually they are bytes, bytes are displayed as MB whereas bits would be displayed Mb
FYI: SpeedOut will only run on Windows.
Extreme Pros are the ones to go!~ But I get both Extreme and Extreme Pros
I personally disagree with you, buy a faster memory card is better for future upgrade if you change your camera or you want to use your card in any other camera you will not find any issues and you will save some money you don't need to buy a new card, faster memory like the one you have 95 is a good deal
Don't get me wrong, I wasn't saying only get as fast as your camera can handle, it was more that there is no benefit to just getting the most expensive cards if your camera can't handle it ... I.e. no point buying a £100+ USH-II card for lower end cameras.
cards are not lenses... card prices drop very fast. i bought the "best" card 6 month earlier, now i could buy 2 of them for the same price. actually you could save some money if you know what fits your needs.
HASSAN ALHAYKI that's well and good, but the best cards cost hundreds of dollars for those cards with the 300ms read/299ms write. If my camera can only do say 60ms, there isn't a point in wasting my money, especially if I'm not getting paid for shoots, or not planning on upgrading my body in the next few weeks. Would I get the 95ms over the 80ms? Sure that's only a difference of a few dollars, but buying a $500-600 memory card is crazy.
neogod29 I'm talking about get a card speed of 95 and get it 128GB is better than take and of those low speed card with 16-32 GB
i see your point. its convenient to have bigger cards, the loss is bigger at a failure
Your ExtremePro 64GB is a Fake Card. 18/11MB in your Speedup test is the evidence. The Color of the letters are different to the 32GB SanDisk. Yellow vs. golden letters!
I knew it wasn't a true ExtremePro going in, (it isn't even labelled as SanDisk but rather as Kimsnot) I bought it to compare against genuine cards for the purpose of this video
720p IP camera
Wouldn’t buy anything from Amazon, no matter how cheap they are. Have you seen the conditions their workers have inflicted upon them..
Hi, just found out that my Nikon d5600 has a 30MB/s bottleneck lol, oh well lol
Are there any issues with using micro SD cards with adapter in a Sony A7iii for 4K recording? The speeds seem similar for UHS-1 cards but the prices are lower so I can get more storage.
You can use MicroSD however I'd generally suggest using the media format that your camera is designed for - with needing to use an adaptor it presents a potential drop in write speed so your footage maybe suffer from dropped frames, there is also the issue of heat because its smaller and inside and adaptor it may struggle with temps with prolonged shooting