A Short But Incredibly Wise Parable of Socrates | Parable "Three Sieve"

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  • Опубліковано 9 гру 2021
  • The Parable of Socrates "Three Siths"

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  • @quotesofthegreat3970
    @quotesofthegreat3970  2 роки тому +1

    Follow me on instagram:
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  • @SS-th9wz
    @SS-th9wz 2 роки тому +834

    When someone speaks “bad” about you it is done with the purpose of influencing others to think a certain way about you that brings a benefit to that person.

    • @reggaefan2700
      @reggaefan2700 2 роки тому +31

      Socrates was a smart dude. I wish more people today used this kind of logic.

    • @RR-gy3kw
      @RR-gy3kw 2 роки тому +35

      ...it doesn't have to be just that. It could also be search for justice, and warning for something suspicious. Socrat was partly right, but not absolutely.

    • @diva1675
      @diva1675 2 роки тому +18

      @@RR-gy3kw The man said the information was not necessary.

    • @errolwaguespack3447
      @errolwaguespack3447 2 роки тому +5

      well said

    • @Motown-1966
      @Motown-1966 2 роки тому +15

      @@diva1675 Exactly meaning it's only gossip overheard therefore not worthy to be heard.

  • @mxhustle7558
    @mxhustle7558 2 роки тому +259

    For those who associate with the small few, yea, even less. hold your tongue, keep your peace and lead an undisturbed life. Let no one or no thing invoke chaos within your fortress.

    • @tedgebregzi3832
      @tedgebregzi3832 2 роки тому +2

      Nice two nice comments I have read here too,nothing to add

    • @dudleydoright3398
      @dudleydoright3398 2 роки тому +8

      Never "hold your tongue" when evil abounds.
      EVER.

    • @MarvinTurner
      @MarvinTurner 2 роки тому +1

      Wow. Is this original? I tried to look it up and found nothing.

    • @beverleyreid7572
      @beverleyreid7572 2 роки тому +2

      Thanks. It’s exactly what I do!

    • @tytemind7850
      @tytemind7850 2 роки тому +4

      Absolutely not. Never be complacent. Stand with dignity & superior knowledge. Walk away with a smile of exuberance.

  • @hgcenty
    @hgcenty 2 роки тому +71

    This doesn't pass it's own first test: Socrates never taught such a parable. It was first penned by Amy Carmichael in 1955 from her book "Edges of His Ways" and re-attributed to Socrates by the Internet.

    • @chloegrobler4275
      @chloegrobler4275 2 роки тому +7

      Course in Citizenship, by Ella Lyman Cabot
      did a quick search and found a qoura page which dates this 3 sieves story to 1914. not old at all.

    • @dublineamo
      @dublineamo 2 роки тому +2

      well that is a pity.

    • @daisukegori2112
      @daisukegori2112 2 роки тому +6

      Does exposing this myth actually do you any good? It's still a good lesson

    • @jefflarson1652
      @jefflarson1652 2 роки тому +9

      @@daisukegori2112 I don't see how that could be self-serving. It only helps others to not perpetuate an untruth.

    • @try_this_one_
      @try_this_one_ 2 роки тому

      Wasn't it Sun Tzu?

  • @tytemind7850
    @tytemind7850 2 роки тому +110

    When you are at a higher level of consciousness you could care less what people say good or bad. You know what’s is correct for your soul.

    • @ltd2372
      @ltd2372 2 роки тому +3

      I like that reply alot. I really do. Happy new year to you.

    • @Yusa_Beach
      @Yusa_Beach 2 роки тому +9

      I tend to disagree, it's a bit in between. Perception can be quite the problem when dealing with others who cannot see beyond theirs.

    • @rogeroropeza516
      @rogeroropeza516 2 роки тому +2

      @@Yusa_Beach You got it..

    • @tytemind7850
      @tytemind7850 2 роки тому

      @Tony Dawson - sorry but your logic is fu

    • @tytemind7850
      @tytemind7850 2 роки тому +1

      @Tony Dawson - have extremely high IQ & did 6 yrs of college in 4.5 yrs with honors. I accept your apology! People who put down others by their own 1 d assumptions usually feel frustrated or inferior way down deep inside. So keep away from that

  • @ingacrosby7953
    @ingacrosby7953 2 роки тому +44

    If someone bad mouths me, I say nothing, do nothing, I just move on. When the person talk enough about me & to people, who might not even know me, the people who are always getting an earful, start realizing that I did not do anything wrong, it was all him. Time has a way of working things out, & revealing the the truth. After all, It's s what is not said that is telling!

    • @rhondabonner9856
      @rhondabonner9856 2 роки тому +4

      Yes but that takes years, in my case

    • @MsPhuque
      @MsPhuque 2 роки тому +1

      That doesn't happen to men. False allegations continually cost men their jobs and sometimes their freedom.

    • @maybelline081
      @maybelline081 2 роки тому +2

      People badmouthing speaks for themselves

    • @ingacrosby7953
      @ingacrosby7953 2 роки тому

      @@MsPhuque there is a difference between bad_mouthing someone & false accusations.

    • @ingacrosby7953
      @ingacrosby7953 2 роки тому +1

      @Tony Dawson really? I thought you just had to take someone to court & sue for deflimation of character. Why shoot them?. It's only words.

  • @dreamsofturtles1828
    @dreamsofturtles1828 2 роки тому +336

    I like this. Paramahansa Yogananda had another approach. Someone in the ashram came to tell him about another devotee who was difficult to work with and causing problems. Yogananda said "Tell me all about it". The man went on for a good 20 minutes about this other persons faults. When he was done, Yogananda said, "OK, i have heard you. It took 20 minutes. Now i want you to tell me about your faults for 20 minutes."

    • @doreen6686
      @doreen6686 2 роки тому +18

      OH that's a very good line at the 😄😄😄😄end.😆
      Thanks I needed a laugh 👍🏼

    • @heatchills4093
      @heatchills4093 2 роки тому +34

      I know plenty of people who could do this for ten hours.

    • @gonnabeayogi1445
      @gonnabeayogi1445 2 роки тому +3

      Ouch 👍🏻

    • @TheAGODAMI
      @TheAGODAMI 2 роки тому +2

      😯 😆 *gReaT sTuFF...ThanKs.!!!* 🙏 💡

    • @emjay1249
      @emjay1249 2 роки тому +6

      Damn i like this lol. He got him good

  • @shawnsmith1865
    @shawnsmith1865 2 роки тому +33

    I agree so much with this!! It has many benefits but the main one is to keep yourself from being burdened with unnecessary distraction.

    • @JariSatta
      @JariSatta 2 роки тому +1

      What the other person is, that is exactly what you get

  • @vickylanding2830
    @vickylanding2830 2 роки тому +8

    God’s grace and his grace God has my circle closed 🙏

  • @kingizzy2746
    @kingizzy2746 2 роки тому +6

    When someone talks bad about you they are reflecting how they feel about themselves..

  • @farmerfox3332
    @farmerfox3332 2 роки тому +9

    Wow good word. That means most big media outlets have failed these sieves and should not bother us.

  • @inutero10
    @inutero10 2 роки тому +7

    Those of us who are truly happy arent bothered by people criticizing them behind their backs. They dont fear embarrassment or isolation. Its a liberating mentality to have when you are truly indifferent about the negativity of others directed at you.
    When someone trys to give you their anger reject it with positivity. Then their anger belongs to them again.

  • @c.galindo9639
    @c.galindo9639 2 роки тому +14

    Damn I love this. So very perplexingly wise and brings about a certain epiphany. I love how this brings about anything untrue, not good, and unnecessary out of your life before it even reaches you.
    Such good and humble advice

  • @kasperchristensen8416
    @kasperchristensen8416 2 роки тому +15

    Sieve 1: The Sieve of *Truth* : _Are you sure what you are about to tell me is true?_
    Sieve 2: The Sieve of *Goodness* : _Is what you want to tell me something good about the person?_
    Sieve 3: The Sieve of *Necessity* : _Is what you want to tell me really necessary for me to know?_

    • @EnterLMS101
      @EnterLMS101 2 роки тому

      Those three sieves are the reason why Socrates is consider as one of the greatest philosophers of all time...
      ...and probably the reason why he never finds out Plato bangs his wife.

  • @vickikay54
    @vickikay54 2 роки тому +21

    I have shared this with my 15yo granddaughter, she needs this more than ever at the moment.

    • @jaswanthkrishna1091
      @jaswanthkrishna1091 2 роки тому +1

      your 15 yo granddaughter probably won't watch a philosophy video you shared. Explain the story to her yourself. Trust me.

    • @sunnydlite-t8b
      @sunnydlite-t8b 2 роки тому +1

      @@jaswanthkrishna1091 lol i cant get people in their 30's to watch anything if it doesnt already fit their view :p

    • @jaswanthkrishna1091
      @jaswanthkrishna1091 2 роки тому

      @@sunnydlite-t8b I’m 20 and most people my age already have a very rigid worldview and not open to suggestions at all. I can imagine people in their 30s.

  • @teresapatricktp4707
    @teresapatricktp4707 2 роки тому +79

    Be a good person to everyone and have positive thoughts towards others because it is good and necessary .

    • @caveman85635
      @caveman85635 2 роки тому +2

      "Karma"...

    • @BlissGeometryDash
      @BlissGeometryDash 2 роки тому +2

      I don't agree with the second sieve, and I think it's pretty stupid. If you are sexually harassed and you need to tell someone about the perpetrator. Should the victim just shut the fuck up? because while it's the truth and it is necessary to be heard, it isn't positive. So yeah just let the sexual harraser keep on sexually harassing people. Good on you Socrates, definently the intellectual you are hyped up to be LOOOOL 💀

    • @2davivadiva
      @2davivadiva 2 роки тому +3

      Took that way tf out of context my guy

    • @Blakestone
      @Blakestone 2 роки тому +1

      @@BlissGeometryDash It must suck to not be able to understand Socrates my boi LOOOOL

    • @BlissGeometryDash
      @BlissGeometryDash 2 роки тому +1

      @@Blakestone maybe read my comment lol. I think a better version would be IF it's negative it has to be truthful and necessary to stop gossip and bullying, but the way the story is now it just doesn't work.

  • @caenterprisellc6922
    @caenterprisellc6922 2 роки тому +24

    I'm honestly not concerned with what people are saying or have said because I've moved on from those people. I hope everyone is having a wonderful Holiday Season.

    • @teresadavenport3074
      @teresadavenport3074 2 роки тому

      Me too, those ppl are my Dad and Stepmom

    • @beverleyreid7572
      @beverleyreid7572 2 роки тому +1

      That’s a great attitude

    • @reggaefan2700
      @reggaefan2700 2 роки тому

      Socrates was a smart dude. I wish more people today used this kind of logic.

    • @caenterprisellc6922
      @caenterprisellc6922 2 роки тому

      @@reggaefan2700 They should talk to God about the private jet, gambling, unknowingly having men and women pay for the melinane in my face, the muscles in my glutes, and men to unknowingly penetrate my soul. It should have remained untethered. That wasn't life, that was evil and God knows.

    • @reggaefan2700
      @reggaefan2700 2 роки тому

      @@caenterprisellc6922 Is your soul the only thing they penetrated?

  • @blisstracker7325
    @blisstracker7325 2 роки тому +59

    ” if the story you’re going to tell me about isn’t true, good or necessary, just forget it and don’t tell me about it.”

    • @KnowledgeSeeker78491
      @KnowledgeSeeker78491 2 роки тому +2

      This is why he ended up getting killed... Thinking he knew it all

    • @idabuffkin4538
      @idabuffkin4538 2 роки тому +2

      If you can't say something good about someone don't say nothing at all.

  • @bnb7094
    @bnb7094 2 роки тому +14

    This goes along with my thinking.
    I think if anyone simply understood what is real and true they would not act the way they do now but change into great people who care about everything.

  • @ZERO-ul4xx
    @ZERO-ul4xx 2 роки тому +9

    ''Wise words coming from a wise man''.

  • @sarahhurst140
    @sarahhurst140 2 роки тому +63

    Excellent! Very wise counsel indeed & I'm going to incorporate this into my interpersonal repertoire! Thank you Socrates!

  • @InsideOfMyOwnMind
    @InsideOfMyOwnMind 2 роки тому +2

    When someone talks trash about others to you the only thing you really know is that they are doing the same about you to others.

  • @dianabenobo
    @dianabenobo 2 роки тому +8

    ... and one can never fully appreciate one's own anxiety disorder until one is made victim in somone else's anxiety disorder.

  • @winggoddess
    @winggoddess 2 роки тому +15

    That’s an example of true morality: don’t speak unless your words are true, good, and necessary.

  • @kaglekoa
    @kaglekoa 2 роки тому +27

    In my personal experience I have found that all information true/false, good/bad, relevant, irrelevant comes to significance at some point down the line most of the time. If I were Socrates I would have listened anyway because it would give insight about the type of person telling the information and insight into the person being spoken positively/ negative about.

    • @beverleyreid7572
      @beverleyreid7572 2 роки тому +1

      Great analogy. But you always need facts!

    • @c.galindo9639
      @c.galindo9639 2 роки тому +2

      It’s really dependent on who the information is related to and how they feel it should be for them

    • @Motown-1966
      @Motown-1966 2 роки тому +6

      Socrates did ask if what was going to be shared was necessary. Since the messenger said it wasn't, there went its significance!

    • @Ejowolfhqlqhv
      @Ejowolfhqlqhv 2 роки тому +5

      @@Motown-1966 what is significant to Socrates could only be decided by Socrates, however it seems since what the person had to say didn't pass the sieve of truth nor goodness, Socrates might have spoken it's not important for him.
      So... I guess, it wasnt really important.

    • @diva1675
      @diva1675 2 роки тому +2

      The speaker had some negative information on a 3rd party and wanted to share it. When the speaker stated it was not necessary for the listener to know. It’s up to the listener to decide if they want to be embroiled with gossiping.

  • @sarakemp3174
    @sarakemp3174 2 роки тому +6

    Gossip taints the hearers. This is so good!!

  • @godsperfectcreation4756
    @godsperfectcreation4756 2 роки тому +1

    So Awesome and so true.!!! Loved it.!!!! Will definitely use it when gossips is about to take place....

  • @mikezip9423
    @mikezip9423 2 роки тому +11

    My wife, and all of her group of female friends, speak “bad” about any members of the group who aren’t present at the time. Makes me crazy.

    • @beeragainsthumanity1420
      @beeragainsthumanity1420 2 роки тому +3

      Have you ever mentioned this too them?
      Hilarity would surely ensue...and you'd be sleeping on the couch.
      Lol.

    • @What-he5pr
      @What-he5pr 2 роки тому +1

      Nasty.

    • @mikezip9423
      @mikezip9423 2 роки тому +1

      @@beeragainsthumanity1420 I only mention it to my wife if she starts talking “bad” about one of her friends.

  • @stu3775
    @stu3775 2 роки тому +2

    Know the difference between truth and gossip.Sometimes Truth needs to be heard no matter how unpleasant.

  • @miguelcerna7406
    @miguelcerna7406 2 роки тому +11

    Nice! From now on I'm interrupting people before they start speaking to me to make sure what they are about to tell me passes the three sieves.

    • @alexmorgan3435
      @alexmorgan3435 2 роки тому +3

      I'm not. I wait for what they are going to say THEN consider it. At least you then know people's true motives and allegiances. Otherwise people won't tell you anything at all and what good is that?

  • @HillAHawk
    @HillAHawk 2 роки тому +2

    This is great. I feel like Socrates right about now... Thanks for sharing this video with us 🥳🙌🏽👍

  • @cadmus2867
    @cadmus2867 2 роки тому +2

    Person: ¨YOUR CHILD IS DYING FROM DEADLY ALLERGIC REACTION¨
    Socrates: ¨doesn't pass all 3 sieves, irrelevant¨

  • @cuddlybear4108
    @cuddlybear4108 2 роки тому +3

    This is fabulous, many thanks.

  • @Tyrell_Corp2019
    @Tyrell_Corp2019 2 роки тому +17

    There are only 3 kinds of conversation: 1- Gossip. 2- People, Places, Events. 3- Grand Ideas.

  • @olivermandalamwambazi4000
    @olivermandalamwambazi4000 2 роки тому

    Just what I needed

  • @aksharabhuvanam
    @aksharabhuvanam 2 роки тому +7

    all the UA-cam channels must go through these sieves 😀

  • @majko1111
    @majko1111 2 роки тому

    Spot on!

  • @godrulztheearth
    @godrulztheearth 2 роки тому +14

    lots of people leaving negative comments because they love to gossip like most of the people in the world do. instead of getting convicted and reversing the very bad habit of slander and gossip you rip on what he said to discredit him. you would rather listen to lies that make you feel good. "the truth never brought anyone together. lies bring people together", Sam kineson.

  • @unknownsoul7122
    @unknownsoul7122 2 роки тому +3

    Well done❤️ thanks for keeping socrate alive

  • @fajrsahar157
    @fajrsahar157 2 роки тому

    Truth. Goodness. Necessary to share.

  • @robertansley6331
    @robertansley6331 2 роки тому

    Most excellent!

  • @lmwlmw4468
    @lmwlmw4468 2 роки тому

    Awesome.

  • @BeeVloggingComedy
    @BeeVloggingComedy 2 роки тому

    Liked it a lot ! Thanks a lot 🌷🌷🌷👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @cammycool1627
    @cammycool1627 2 роки тому +2

    MY MANS TOLD HIM OFF 🔥 Thanks for the lesson 🙏

  • @naxmorvigatore4168
    @naxmorvigatore4168 2 роки тому +8

    So basically, to translate Sacrates' wise words into our modern day language... 🎵 SKRRT Miss me with that bull shit 🎵

  • @lauriebryant520
    @lauriebryant520 2 роки тому +7

    If someone goes around saying slanderous, libelous things that are false, many people will hold such an individual accountable for their behavior. This type of conduct is actually a crime in civil court, the only defense to libel, slander is truthfulness.

  • @time4jesus
    @time4jesus 2 роки тому +25

    The three sieves were the reason Socrates never realised that one of his students was sleeping with his wife!

    • @murphy903
      @murphy903 2 роки тому +10

      He had two wives. In addition, he likely had a few girlfriends as well. He didn't care.

    • @baxterstockman2224
      @baxterstockman2224 2 роки тому +4

      @@murphy903 you ruined joke

  • @judementz-gibbons6730
    @judementz-gibbons6730 2 роки тому +14

    What if someone says bad things about someone that is true in every detail? They are not depressed or jealous - but may be warning others or expressing their hurt inflicted by that person

    • @beverleyreid7572
      @beverleyreid7572 2 роки тому +5

      Why not address it with the individual privately? And why is it your job?

    • @brentharbord5375
      @brentharbord5375 2 роки тому +1

      Bev maybe that person being talked badly about doesnt wanna a bar of it and certain things need to be spoken on no huge constant ordeals or whatever unless ofcourse whoever ya venting to is close and has all day and actually wants/needs to hear it. Keep it sweet keep it simple big impact. It usually doesnt make you feel better though remember people you need not to consult with anyone but you at the end of the day

    • @virginialove2563
      @virginialove2563 2 роки тому +1

      @@beverleyreid7572 thank you I agreee people do this because they are insecure and unhappy with their own lives so it’s ok to bring someone else’s flaws instead of your own

  • @itsjustme9354
    @itsjustme9354 2 роки тому +1

    Wow so powerful 👏 🙌

  • @muhammednaijun
    @muhammednaijun 2 роки тому +1

    Loved it❤️❤️❤️

  • @robertbrozewicz8003
    @robertbrozewicz8003 2 роки тому +3

    Simple but amazing.

  • @SeaJay_Oceans
    @SeaJay_Oceans 2 роки тому +1

    This is the most polite way of saying ''Shut Up, and Sit Down."

  • @karenzilverberg4699
    @karenzilverberg4699 2 роки тому

    Thanks.

  • @izawaniek2568
    @izawaniek2568 2 роки тому

    Great advice!

  • @enlightenedtroll154
    @enlightenedtroll154 2 роки тому +1

    Brilliant!

  • @Cowwy
    @Cowwy 2 роки тому

    LOL!! I love this!! XD

  • @MomsSelfReliance
    @MomsSelfReliance 2 роки тому +4

    Thanks for sharing this alot of people's lives has been destroyed this way telling tales ect.

  • @Roman-gy7pr
    @Roman-gy7pr 2 роки тому +6

    What most people don't know is the ending - thanks to the logic of "Three Sieves", Sokrates never got to learn that the man was in fact banging his wife.

  • @tracezachdaniels4264
    @tracezachdaniels4264 2 роки тому

    SO SHWEEEETTT...much love Tee with LIONS NAMED LEO.[the music worldwide}
    ooooo cool.!!!

  • @georgevavoulis4758
    @georgevavoulis4758 2 роки тому +4

    Socrates ,most brilliant man of the ancient world 🌎

  • @anndreastembridge367
    @anndreastembridge367 2 роки тому

    Amen. 😌

  • @ANDROLOMA
    @ANDROLOMA 2 роки тому +52

    The Parable of Socrates "Three Siths" was the sequel to his original production of six Jedi Knights, five tie fighters, four Jar Jar Binks, two turtle doves, and a partridge in a pear tree. 😎

    • @carpathianken
      @carpathianken 2 роки тому +1

      It's three sieves not Siths

    • @ANDROLOMA
      @ANDROLOMA 2 роки тому +2

      @@carpathianken Read directly under *"Quotes of the Great"* on this page for the spelling error. Then you might get the joke.

    • @gonnabeayogi1445
      @gonnabeayogi1445 2 роки тому +1

      @@ANDROLOMA I wish I knew you in person 👍🏻🤣

    • @gonnabeayogi1445
      @gonnabeayogi1445 2 роки тому

      😶

    • @carpathianken
      @carpathianken 2 роки тому

      @@ANDROLOMA Nah,didn't get it............

  • @offheap5868
    @offheap5868 2 роки тому

    period girlll

  • @cwiseman4595
    @cwiseman4595 2 роки тому

    So true
    People who speak ill about other people in front of YOU, are also the ones who are speaking ill about YOU in front of other people.

  • @Alejandra-jf8zd
    @Alejandra-jf8zd 2 роки тому

    Nuff said 😉👏🏼

  • @shadoll7856
    @shadoll7856 2 роки тому

    Thank you Socrates.

  • @jeanmjones6610
    @jeanmjones6610 2 роки тому

    Wise teaching.

  • @MissHeird
    @MissHeird 2 роки тому

    Linda Bonnano is spot on!!

  • @vitakaraliute3155
    @vitakaraliute3155 2 роки тому

    Ha ha ha! But this is really good!!! :) I like this! :)

  • @samikshakhanvilkarpatil1730
    @samikshakhanvilkarpatil1730 2 роки тому

    👌👌

  • @annetaylor9493
    @annetaylor9493 2 роки тому

    ''Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events and small minds discuss other people'' Eleanor Roosvelt....................................wonderful. Happy New Year everyone.

  • @esotericsolitaire
    @esotericsolitaire 2 роки тому

    SO CRATES, we need you now.

  • @funkycowsx2
    @funkycowsx2 2 роки тому

    Cool.

  • @mikefule330
    @mikefule330 2 роки тому +29

    First, there is no evidence that Socrates ever said this, or anything similar to it. The story can be traced back to Victorian times and was not attributed to Socrates then. Also, in the story, he moves from whether the person "knows it is true" to concluding that it "isn't true." Plato analysed ideas in minute detail and would know the important difference between X not knowing that Y was true and Y being untrue. All that said, it is a sensible argument against gossip and tittle tattle.

    • @Clusterboy
      @Clusterboy 2 роки тому +1

      How then does one warn someone or the public that Mr. So and so is a sociopath.

    • @cjmacq-vg8um
      @cjmacq-vg8um 2 роки тому +1

      thanks for that clarification.
      if you say something bad about someone you know to be a rapist, a traitor, a life long liar, thief and fraud, then exposing these truths is a bad reflection on YOU? i've been abused, lied to, stolen from and defrauded my ENTIRE life. am i supposed to sit back and allow all these injustices to continue against me AND others?
      to make a better a world YOU EXPOSE the injustices of that world. and you expose those RESPONSIBLE for commiting these injustices. this is what good and responsible do. ITS CALLED ETHICS!
      otherwise, what we all end up with is what WE HAVE NOW! a world ruled by gangsters and predators; fascists! a world full of completely unnecessary and avoidable human misery!

    • @mikefule330
      @mikefule330 2 роки тому

      @@Clusterboy My own view is that this so called "3 sieves" is a good general argument against gossip and tittle tattle. Warning someone that X is a sociopath may well be "necessary" - assuming of course that you know it to be true. The argument is not against talking about other people, but saying things that are malicious, unfounded, and unnecessary. "I've heard that Suzi is a bitch who sleeps around" fails the 3 sieve test. "I have clear evidence that Jim has a long history of stealing from his friends" is useful information which does not fail the 3 sieve test.

    • @mikefule330
      @mikefule330 2 роки тому

      @@cjmacq-vg8um I can only suggest that you rewatch the video. There is nothing in it that says that you should not say things that you KNOW to be true, if it is NECESSARY to say them and you do so for the right reasons rather than maliciously. That aside, it is nothing to do with Socrates. It is a bit of "Grandma's wisdom" dressed up in a story about Socrates, and like all of Grandma's wisdom, it is not necessarily good advice in all circumstances.

    • @cjmacq-vg8um
      @cjmacq-vg8um 2 роки тому +1

      @@mikefule330 ... yep, i actually caught that mistake too late after i posted the comment. i guess what's being said here, regardless of who said it, is don't gossip and verify your beliefs. can't argue with that.
      but despite that error of mine the rest of what i wrote holds true. you don't make a better world by ignoring the injustices of the present one. i can't argue with that either.

  • @chrisjones1718
    @chrisjones1718 2 роки тому

    When someone makes a statement about you, they are in fact, making a statement about themselves.

  • @heynunya5986
    @heynunya5986 2 роки тому

    When someone says something bad about you, it's them who are the real bad humans or you hurt them so they hurt you back

  • @YepMhmm
    @YepMhmm 2 роки тому

    Socrates was known to fall into trance and talk to his Heavenly guides all the time, come back and tell what they told him. He taught the Abrahamic method of faith primarily, and was directly related to Abraham.

  • @clarkecronin5506
    @clarkecronin5506 2 роки тому

    Absolutely best. Now all you got to do is figure out a way to get to the simple mined out there in LA LA LAND. I saw the lead in to video. Watched it. Absorbed it. Agreed with it. Question is can they.

  • @angiadiamonte4632
    @angiadiamonte4632 2 роки тому

    Amen socrates

  • @BlazRa
    @BlazRa 2 роки тому +2

    Fun fact right after Socrates said this he was killed by the guy that this guy was trying to warn him about
    😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

  • @gerrimiller3491
    @gerrimiller3491 2 роки тому

    Amen🌿

  • @gaymichaelis7581
    @gaymichaelis7581 2 роки тому +1

    I love this! I had never heard this before about Socrates and the three sieves!!! I love it! Thank you very much!

  • @esmeash4948
    @esmeash4948 2 роки тому

    Nice one

  • @DM-fr8ky
    @DM-fr8ky 2 роки тому +12

    I thought Socrates was going to expel that man that failed to pass it through the three sieves

    • @SweetChicagoGator
      @SweetChicagoGator 2 роки тому

      No ! A teacher cannot expel a student who is trying to learn !! 🙄

  • @zenarcher2112
    @zenarcher2112 2 роки тому +7

    This is a lesson and should be strict guidelines for everything from everyone posted on all social media sites

    • @davidb4192
      @davidb4192 2 роки тому +1

      Social media would probably just collapse if everyone applied the 3 seives.

  • @emykus7717
    @emykus7717 2 роки тому +6

    99% of things told among us don't pass the first sieve. There's a whole lot of she said/he said going around.

  • @esotericsolitaire
    @esotericsolitaire 2 роки тому +4

    Yes, try to worry more about what good people have to say about you. If you cannot speak badly about them and have found them to be truthful, then what they have to say might prove useful.

  • @SoFarSoBook
    @SoFarSoBook 2 роки тому

    I use this at the office when ever someone is trying to make small talk.
    Yes, I am, indeed, very popular at work.

  • @harrycooper5231
    @harrycooper5231 2 роки тому

    So Crates. A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's pissed.

  • @criticalthinker7822
    @criticalthinker7822 2 роки тому

    Well said Socrates.

  • @Tomiokasan99
    @Tomiokasan99 2 роки тому

    Only if I could be this wise

  • @Giggles_iJest
    @Giggles_iJest 2 роки тому

    Savage

  • @debbiejohnson2789
    @debbiejohnson2789 2 роки тому

    Good job, Socrates!

  • @mercymylord5139
    @mercymylord5139 2 роки тому +19

    If we all did this the world would be a quiet place with no Wars

  • @uhoh1733
    @uhoh1733 2 роки тому +1

    ok but now i'm curious about what he was going to say

  • @kmhuque5485
    @kmhuque5485 2 роки тому

    A good advice, very good advice, to users of Facebook.

  • @BloodMoon375
    @BloodMoon375 2 роки тому +1

    Sorry, but every time I hear the name Socrates I always pronounce in it my head as So-Crates like in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. Which I'm totally going to watch today.

  • @GoodVideos4
    @GoodVideos4 2 роки тому

    Strong minds discuss ideas,
    Average minds discuss events,
    Weak minds discuss other people.

  • @itswhatisee957
    @itswhatisee957 2 роки тому

    exactly

  • @mariamistretta3860
    @mariamistretta3860 2 роки тому

    God is the truth.