Racial Harmony via Racism

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  • Опубліковано 26 січ 2025

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  • @Ucuz_
    @Ucuz_ 5 років тому +75

    it is pretty well known singapore choose their immigrants (chinese)

  • @anattynook
    @anattynook 4 роки тому +3

    Yesssss your points here are so important!!! The editing and script are completely on point. Thank you for making this video, and articulating such nuances about racial relations in SG today. I hope you keep making these videos, I definitely learnt a lot from them

  • @brandonkhawwanxian5394
    @brandonkhawwanxian5394 3 роки тому +9

    Wow, this video has been very informative. As a Chinese Malaysian, j have always viewed Singapore as the prime model of what Malaysia could have been (it still is in many way). Having never been to Singapore, i was very oblivious to all of this prejudice and hidden discrimination in Singaporean society. The video is of extremely good quality, hope you continue to make videos.

    • @tankman20064
      @tankman20064 2 роки тому +2

      Ask malaysia why never open doors to rohingya to become citizen ?

  • @wheregotime3153
    @wheregotime3153 5 років тому +9

    Thank you for spending the effort in making awareness towards this facet of singapore that i, as a privileged chinese majority, am unaware of. It helps in knowing that I should take steps to discern and consider the sensitivities and social roadblocks that my fellow minorities within the racial group face while conducting myself with their feelings in mind, in order to progress as an individual towards an inclusive and graceful society.

  • @figureofspeech4581
    @figureofspeech4581 5 років тому +10

    I got a feeling Singapore will get into protest about getting in Foreign Talents and all... The government needs to do something about it to not make any protests happen

  • @sombrance
    @sombrance 3 роки тому +5

    This is great work! Thank you for putting your time into this. It is informative and provokes discussion. I do agree that we do need the government to stop treating us like babies with everything. However, I do think that we do have some autonomy with how racial groups organize themselves. If you go to places like Golden Mile, where Thai workers who were working on the land reclamation project and construction of Nicole Highway in the 80s congregated, you will find Singapore's Bangkok. In places like Joo Chiat, we have the Vietnamese who have started to form many restaurants and bars. We also do have a K-Town somewhere in the CBD. These places exist in Singapore although I do think that we are still too young as a nation to have fully developed enclaves. Whatever we had in the past with Little India, Geylang Serai, Chinatown, etc has been slightly diluted through government policy and development although the majority of the people there do seem to be ethnically linked to these places.

  • @vincem2759
    @vincem2759 5 років тому +22

    The LAST thing Singapore needs is ethnic enclaves. We tried it in the west. And all that was created was redlining.

    • @supergamergrill7734
      @supergamergrill7734 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah

    • @notting2640
      @notting2640 Рік тому +4

      This. It’s a grass is greener situation. I don’t think he understands the dangers of ethnic enclaves and he overvalues the “cultural richness” it brings.
      All ethnic enclaves foster is gangs - the hood has crips/bloods, Chinatown has triads, Little Mexico has Cartel Affiliates/MS13/LKs etc etc.
      Singapore’s racial quota policy is in fact one of the most unorthodox yet successful ways of combating the naturalization of violent racial tribalism. Sure you may get forced “diversity” that is inconvenient for minority homebuyers and may make them feel uncomfortable at worst, but it’s WAYY better than all the killings and crime racial enclaves bring. I wish they did something like that here but it’ll never fly with the Democrats.

  • @sanjay8854
    @sanjay8854 4 роки тому +5

    Tharman is the biggest loss in this CMIO card :( He would have made a fine PM

  • @MasterSkySparklez
    @MasterSkySparklez 5 років тому +10

    great video but what was that random clip of sufis dancing bro 😂😂 7:42

  • @anthtan
    @anthtan 5 років тому +4

    The background music sounds ominous...

  • @MasterSkySparklez
    @MasterSkySparklez 5 років тому +17

    u deserve more views man

  • @aiyusabandonedaccount6924
    @aiyusabandonedaccount6924 4 роки тому +5

    Thank you for your informative video! Appreciate the criticism on the 'Regardless of Race' show.

  • @DRSB13
    @DRSB13 4 роки тому +15

    Cultures aren't equal. Just because it worked well so far to a certain extent, does not mean new cultures can just show up and co exist with others!

    • @erica.7231
      @erica.7231 4 роки тому +5

      This isn't true. It is called adaption which is done on both sides. For example, even though the u.s. has many struggles with racism if you are born in the u.s. you are seen as uniquely being a u.s. citizen. If the discrimination happens, even the racist won't make the claim the person they hate is not American. However, as I said before we have our own racism and unique set of problems.

    • @makatogonzo
      @makatogonzo 4 роки тому

      See my point about interfaith marriages.

  • @abcddef2112
    @abcddef2112 3 роки тому +6

    This is definitely an interesting take om singapore system. As Im from Indonesia, It does seem that in some respect racial relations is difficult too. However comparing Singapore for example with Jakarta. Both are multiracial-ethnic cities. Many chinese arab and javanese and sundanese come and go. One interesting thing on Jakarta (Batavia) history is the emergent of a new ethnic groups. The betawi they are basicly a combination of sundanese, javanese, portuguese, dutch, chinese and even arabic. Most are muslim but also christian (among the portuguese descendant). Their looks are diverse too as some can look quite stereotypically chinese.
    It is interesting throughout the history of Singapore there doesn’t emerge a new identity. A civic identity was form of course but not an ethnic identity. Batavia was quite segregated but they still form a new identity. This happened multiple time. There is a huge taboo of marriage between sundanese and javanese (it still is since bubat). But in 16th century huge javanese soldiers desserted to Cirebon. They married local sundanese and their descendant basicly identifying as Cirebon not sundanese nor javanese.
    Maybe strictly segregating the groups and give quota actually create barrier of integration. The fact that you have to be singapore and..something else.
    When singapore gov stop identifying javanese, boyanese, batak, etc they all become malay. True in Malaysia as well. When the dutch stop classifying differences in natives in the cities they all become betawi eventually.

  • @anjhanadamodaran2534
    @anjhanadamodaran2534 4 роки тому +3

    LOVE this, thank you for this video

  • @FatallyHonest
    @FatallyHonest 5 років тому +8

    Great video to get the ball rolling on talking about multiculturalism in Singapore! Personally, after travelling to other countries, and getting to know people of other races (not just Singaporean Chinese, Malay, Indians), it feels that the acceptance of races in Singapore doesn't necessarily stem from the desire of getting to know each other's culture and learning about it.
    As for the CMIOs method, I didn't really put much thought about how immigrants are placed into that system till now. Since you talked about immigrants and naturalised residents, did you take into account foreign workers who are just here for work or only those who Singapore deemed have invested enough in the country to be naturalised?

  • @leafmylife
    @leafmylife 5 років тому +10

    Your views are epic. 👍

  • @makatogonzo
    @makatogonzo 4 роки тому +6

    Just want to put my observations out there. I'm from Malaysia. I know this is a sensitive topic. My family has interfaith marriages with many races except for Malays who by definition in Malaysia must be a Muslim. I have seen from personal experience how societal and family pressures have broken up relationships between a Muslim and a non-Muslim. And then there is a question of the faith of the children as a result of this union. Or the issue of apostasy. I see this as a deadlock. I apologize for not offering any solutions.

    • @abcddef2112
      @abcddef2112 3 роки тому +3

      I also want to give prespective in Indonesia. There are definitely more taboo for interfaith marriage compared with interethnic (race is almost never used even with dealing with chinese/arabic/europeans) marriage. Some groups like minang, acehnese, malay do definitely have a must muslim identity. However conversion do exist. The interesting thing is that many of these people form an identity based on cities.
      Betawi is basicly an identity formed by many groups many javanese, sundanese, portuguese, chinese, and arab in batavia (Jakarta). They arent monolith as there can be christian though most are muslim. Some can look quite chinese too.
      Another identity forming is ‘orang padang’. Padang is definitely a minang city it is located in the minang heartland. The philosophy of minang though means that many minang who converted from islam are rejected from being minang. Most identify as padang instead, this is not a formed identity to the betawi but its a new forming identity. Many identity based on cities basicly developed. An ‘org jogja’ moving to jakarta will sometime still identified as jogjan.
      Maybe to an extend malaysia does as well depending on each regional kingdom. though interestingly Singapore never seemed to develop a different identity other than civic identity and not an ethnic one. If a singaporean move to malaysia permanently will he/she identify as singaporean or as their ethnic/race group.
      Maybe it just needs time so the seperate Singaporean identity take hold like Betawi.

    • @tankman20064
      @tankman20064 2 роки тому

      Of course. This is a fact. You expect the muslim become non-muslim ? How can be ? Even they choose to become other. It chaos.

  • @lametalk8388
    @lametalk8388 5 років тому +8

    This should be trending

  • @sadiaswr
    @sadiaswr 4 роки тому +6

    This is before black lives matter
    Thank you for speaking out
    Your video is valuable

    • @erica.7231
      @erica.7231 4 роки тому

      But before blm, those problems existed. Don't forget blm came to exist during Obama's presidency Also a group like blm only exist in the cycle of reaching better quality, it is a natural part of the system. It is perhaps better this way than the government trying to change as last time it literally involved martial law.

    • @amatossotama
      @amatossotama 4 роки тому

      Actually, BLM existed way before this video, but it's good to see people acknowledging the existence of racism in Singapore.

  • @alwaysjerricky
    @alwaysjerricky 5 років тому +7

    Overall an informational video. But I have 2 issues with it. 1) how is it possible to accept “Malay” immigrants? 2) i understand it’s more difficult for ethnic minorities to sell their HDB flats - but i think it goes both ways too. it’s easier for them to bid for flats at favorable locations with bigger capacities precisely because of this policy.

    • @abcddef2112
      @abcddef2112 3 роки тому +2

      Actually the answer is accept more indonesian. They are not malay and many would not identify as one especially if they are not muslim, unless forced. Meaning stop using ‘malay’ classification too give other options. Chinese indonesian would identify as indonesian too given the option unless you forced them to have separate chinese identity. (Most cant speak chinese)
      Jakarta is actually quite diverse multicultural cities. Ethnic enclaves actually disappeared on its own (mainly because there are no place they have to move or expensive). Many newer housing are mixed. Sure some groups are more dominant than others.

  • @JacksonWong-pw4zq
    @JacksonWong-pw4zq 28 днів тому +1

    When ceca cannot adapt to singapore thwn should pack and leave , should not force singapore to adapt to ceca crookedness .

  • @acevictory3587
    @acevictory3587 5 років тому +2

    Pls upload more

  • @lesterixguy8519
    @lesterixguy8519 5 років тому +3

    Pls make more vids

  • @ericakiki
    @ericakiki 5 років тому +13

    I wonder what’s our national identity lol

  • @L154N4LG4IB
    @L154N4LG4IB 2 роки тому +1

    Letting people have loyalty to ethnic identity above that of the nation promotes ethnic conflict and accusations on the basis of ethnicity. Singapore should fix its systemic ethnic bias but singapores ethnic bias does nothing on its own to prove ethnic groups choosing their ethnicity over their nation is somehow a “good thing”.

  • @JacksonWong-pw4zq
    @JacksonWong-pw4zq 28 днів тому +1

    LKY rather his fanily without a son in law than to have a ceca son in law

  • @SadCoffee
    @SadCoffee  4 роки тому

    Psst, if you want to hear more of my unfiltered take on SG news, check out my podcast, Don’t Blur. It’s available on Apple Podcasts (pcr.apple.com/id1540530875) and Spotify (open.spotify.com/show/3Xtfo9w0RD2TroSsEuCdbn). Or just add the URL feed sadcoffee.net/category/podcast/feed/ to your favourite podcatcher like Overcast, etc.

  • @officialnyiyanmoehtet
    @officialnyiyanmoehtet 4 роки тому +1

    01:41, Nas Daily! I recognise him!

  • @tankman20064
    @tankman20064 2 роки тому +1

    Well, go malaysia same mah. You go there and apply as a chinese. Or chinese from china. Or rohingya.

  • @yiyingwo4594
    @yiyingwo4594 4 роки тому +6

    Well done... balanced view.

  • @burtonl7239
    @burtonl7239 5 років тому +3

    LOL, how do you know Kumar's racism doesn't extend outside of his act? You don't know his daily life. He may refuse to get on taxis driven by certain races.

  • @PardonDix
    @PardonDix 4 роки тому +1

    Such a good video

  • @Tetawnga6974
    @Tetawnga6974 5 років тому +3

    Love from Mizoram

    • @anuragbohra9803
      @anuragbohra9803 3 роки тому +1

      Mizoram is a beautiful country!

    • @yasharyan4024
      @yasharyan4024 3 роки тому +2

      @@anuragbohra9803 Mizoram is an Indian state😑

    • @anuragbohra9803
      @anuragbohra9803 3 роки тому

      @@yasharyan4024 forcefully attached to it!

    • @noobturtle4698
      @noobturtle4698 6 місяців тому

      ​@@anuragbohra9803no wtf

  • @luihinwai1
    @luihinwai1 9 місяців тому +1

    I like how you subdivide Indonesian into multi ethnic groups but not the Chinese and Indian, as if the Indonesian share a less unified racial identity than the Indian

  • @eagerkotov688
    @eagerkotov688 Рік тому

    I don't really get where the criticism is coming from. I live in Canada, and Singapore is much more advanced in terms of racial equity(They literally show slides and even chat history: ua-cam.com/video/9nt5yxnVEtk/v-deo.html). (1)Tharman is president now. (2) Parents don't teach their kids that racism is bad, just like nobody says that murder is bad, or raping is bad. The only time kids are told not to do something is only after the fact. So, either Singaporean kids are not racist or they are good at hiding it. The ethnic integration example is not the best, I think. Its objective was exactly to avoid segregation. Looking at 0:39 and 8:09, they achieved it since blocks can take in at most 7-10% more than the average of any race. But if you raise the limits to more diverse 33% for each race, regardless of their nation average, then you will have bunch of neighborhoods where the maximum 33% are Indian or Malay. However, that will lead to predominantly Chinese neighborhoods due to the lack of minorities to meet the quotas. So, as a result you will have most neighborhoods being completely Chinese. And I bet that in addition to minorities struggling with selling their apartment, there is some racist Chinese person who doesn't want to sell to minority but is forced by the law - and everyone is better off for it. (3)The ethnic makeup of Singapore was not detailed enough . Hopefully that will not come as a surprise to you that not all Indians are the same, neither are Chinese. Look at detailed demographics of India or China. It is misleading to show the detailed ethnic makeup of Indonesia against the simplified Singaporean chart (0:10) and suggest that Indonesia is more diverse. Canadian ethnic makeup is usually described in terms of White, Black, Arab, etc. But Canada is mostly White and is only 15% Canadian. It's not fault of Chinese that they are majority(even if there are at least 10 ethnic groups identifying as Chinese) - the same is true for English in U.K., Indians in India, etc. Canadians don't need to apologize for me immigrating to Canada and finding out that it is mostly White. It seems like all Singaporeans are equal before the law but population just happen to be mostly Chinese - and that's why it was kicked out in 60's. You need to suggest actual solutions as opposed to simply throwing away the old ones. I genuinely want to know that solution but studies have shown that exposure to other races and integration - even if it is forced - decreases racism. So, I guess there is a trade off between knowing your own better vs. having more peace and tolerance between different groups. I understand that you don't want the government to interfere in your private and social life - friends and enemies. But all governments interfere, and usually they do it when it is too late and damage is irreversible, e.g. mosque shootings, hate crimes, protests/lootings, etc. We assume that people know better than to throw chewing gum on streets, steal a million dollars while in public office, or avoid interacting with people who look differently. You are welcome to come to Canada or US or Russia, live there for a month and see these assumptions at full display. ***One thing that concerns me the most is the invariant distribution of race in Singapore . I truly don't know if it is actually racist/supremacist to make sure the majority stays the majority, e.g. at least 50%. On the one hand I emphasize with Indians and Malays but they are intelligent and hard working people, esp. Indians, so I don't see the status of minority deciding whether they succeed or fail. And as long as everything stays the same or better in Singapore, that will be great if they increase diversity and not just with Indians or Malays, but also Europeans and Africans.(But I want to mention - just for the fun of it - it will be hilarious if Malays become the majority and expel the airport with Chinese on it from Singapore, and afterwards the parking lot from the airport. I would pay to see this Zeno's paradox of ethnic partitions set off.) On the other hand, I don't think there is a single country willingly reducing their majority to minority. The only countries that even take racism seriously on the highest level are in Western Europe, North America, and a handful of countries like Singapore. And all of them will maintain majority unless something terrible happens.

  • @bh9497
    @bh9497 5 років тому +2

    Good.

  • @richardstella5927
    @richardstella5927 6 місяців тому

    Na, there are a lot of fallacies in your argument.

  • @noodlyappendage6729
    @noodlyappendage6729 Рік тому

    You may not like the way Singapore is set up now but it beats the pants off of the way it was set up beforehand the UK could actually learn a thing or two from Singapore about how to handle its ethnic minorities.

  • @SMILE-kh4ct
    @SMILE-kh4ct 5 років тому

    How wise for in any part of the world to take the good examples of Singapore in building racial harmony.
    Forget about out status, differences, color whatever, we are humans which share the same basic needs - the right :
    * To live and produce kids.
    * To practice own belief and culture.
    * To acquire knowledge.
    * To earn a living.
    * To owns anything legally.
    * To be treated fairly in any court of law.
    * To get fair share of the government 'economy/revenue cake'.
    Forget about the past, forgive everyone, kill all 'poisons' in your heart(hatred/revenge/), which killed your own happiness.
    Treat others the way you want to be treated.
    It's the wisdom of our Creator that made us what we are - Not to quarrel and kill each other, but to know and respect each other.
    God stated in Quran Alhujurat(49), verse 13 :
    "O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted".
    Never mind whatever our differences, we(any parts of the world), only need to do 4 things to guaranteed racial harmony forever.
    1.The authority guarantees all her citizens 7 rights mentioned above.
    2. Each of us treat others the way we want to be treated.
    3. Respect others belief and culture, don't ever offends them in any manner.
    4. Those who 'pollutes' religion/racial/culture harmony must be severely dealt with, because it's like a 'cancer' in a individual/family/community/country that will kill all.

  • @ikmal-nx6ye
    @ikmal-nx6ye 2 роки тому +1

    Salam

  • @maxkloss1720
    @maxkloss1720 5 місяців тому

    Meritocracy my A**

  • @ScufflesWaffles
    @ScufflesWaffles 5 років тому +4

    There is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is his final Messenger.

    • @tokitoyotokitoyo
      @tokitoyotokitoyo Рік тому +2

      InsyaAllah Islam will dominate Singapura ❤

    • @averagesingaporean3
      @averagesingaporean3 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@tokitoyotokitoyochinese:no

    • @azzureone78
      @azzureone78 5 місяців тому

      ​@tokitoyotokitoyo Islam needs to stop wanting to dominate others. That is its problem.

  • @geralddorasamy-gt6yn
    @geralddorasamy-gt6yn 7 місяців тому

    KNN!!