The only thing I hated in this fight is that Ruby, Weiss and Blake didn't use the guns version of their weapons, it would've atleast done something to help out Penny
That's cause Penny's already an experienced huntress and is focusing on that that rather than relying on her Maiden powers. I also like that she's using a wind tunnel like Fria did. She learns quick.
Also Amber most likely didn’t know the previous Fall Maiden, if you watch V3 you see that the way Cinder mimics the way Amber used the maiden powers against her, Mercury and Emerald. It seems to be a “monkey see, monkey do” kind of thing since Penny uses her maiden powers as she saw Fria use them last volume
If you ignore how Marrow could've easily ended the fight from the get-go and how the best huntsmen and huntresses in Atlas couldn't win against a girl who only recently got the Maiden power when Cinder Mercury and Emerald were able to defeat Amber on their own sure.
@@BerksAreCool ı will be honest, if RT doesn’t give us a good explaination why Marrow just doesn’t use it from start, they shouldn't have given this semblance to him right from the start. And best hunters? Are we sure cuz they are same people who lost their cool at their fight against rwby. One said they gathered this way cuz their semblances were compatible. They didnt just get 5 best hunter of Atlas and made a team. They can all call them best or elite, for me they are not. And come on Penny is a robot. She was already powerful before maiden powers. She can analyz very well too. At first attack of Harriet she calculated she was gonna come from back used her blades to stop her. Its shame they couldnt beat Penny but like i said ı dont think they are best.
@@mizel.i It could’ve been easy to explain, they could’ve just had marrow say that his semblance wouldn’t be able to hold penny for long due to her newfound maiden power and that’s why the ace ops had no choice but to take her on directly.
Possibly though the longer that they drag things out with the Ace Ops actually questioning it, the greater the PIS feels. They saw Ironwood straight up shoot a guy simply because he questioned him. The whole thing of ‘a soldier doesn’t question orders’ only gets you so far when your orders are actively hurting the innocent
I mean it's pretty evident he is, though he's a soldier following orders even soldiers have morale judgement of right and wrong and still sometimes have a choice to follow them or not
You know, this volume seems to have this recurring trend of characters falling from a high place but are saved at the last second (Ren saving Jaune and Yang while chasing Oscar, and then here Marrow getting saved twice and Ruby saving Blake and Weiss). I'm half expecting that this gets subverted later on where it looks like someone's falling to their death... and they actually do die.
now you might call me bullshit on this but she was using nine sword on the platform which evenly distributes it more between each sword while Harriet only had to deal with one, arguably i could possibly see 10 Harriets hold off a slowly falling platform but only for a little while, Penny had to do so long enough to restabilize the pillars looking at it this way its not completely out of the realm of possibility
Harriet's weapons are dust infused and designed to give her super strength in the last volume she held down a giant mammoth grimm for Ruby and Penny to attack so it makes sense that she would have the strength to break at least one
High key tired of these people trying to jump penny 😭literally the most sweet and genuine character of the show and constantly has more than 3 people after her head like where is the fairness in that she keeps getting the poohpooh end of the stick
Not as strong as the RWBY vs Ace Ops fight but still a great spectacle to watch. I really liked how despite the sheer amount of raw power Penny possessed as a maiden the Ace Ops still achieved something somewhat beneficial to their side by playing smart and making great use of their abilities. Reminds me a lot of Cinder, Emerald and Mercury vs Amber Also I love the four-note maiden leitmotif that plays in the background at 1:00 - 1:04. It's a nice attention to detail and the maiden motif is probably one of my favourite music cues in the RWBY score, mainly because it just sounds so grand and mystical.... I do wish the fight kinda lasted longer tho. I wanted to see RWB fight Ace Ops and see possibly the long-missed Iceflower or Ladybug team attacks (the V5 ladybug doesn't count because it's offscreen). Also I wish they will point out the stolen Penny sword in the later episodes. Weiss and Blake were already on to something suspicious so I hope they manage to find a way to counter Watt's inevitable hacking schemes Also I'm glad they remodeled the Blake bobcat and the Weiss braid. They look really pretty in those new hairdos
Yes I noticed that Leimotif too!! Alex Abraham is a freaking genius !! I really liked that fight ... short but sweet, with great visuals, and awesome use of team work. Penny may be a Maiden but she still only has the powers for a few hours, yet she still did pretty good against the Ace Ops. I'm hoping for a Penny vs Cinder Maiden fight, please CRWBY, make it happen this volume!
@Julian R how could they be nerfed in the same Volume they were introduced in? That’s not nerfing that’s showing and establishing limits in the season characters are introduced.
@Julian R Marrow could have but then we wouldn’t have gotten a great fight. Plus Marrow’s semblance takes a toll on him and he doesn’t want to fight so by the time everything started, Harriet had chased Ruby out, and Blake and Yang split off from the group.
@Julian R okay, so a big battle in the worst produced season was bad. Two volumes separate from the one where the Ace Ops were introduced. look at literally every other fight after. They are all good to amazing. Even Cinder Vs Raven was a total spectacle.
Was I the only one laughing when the Ace Ops tried handcuffing Penny only to witness an explosion that sends the door flying and crushes them with the door?
One thing I love to point out to people is how coincidentally in this fight the Ace Ops actually work together as a team. As opposed to when they fought RWBY and they didn't work as a team at all. And I'm going to say it again. MARROWS SEMBLANCE IS FUCKING OP
Well Team RWBY intentional split up the Ace Ops. Ruby was the first to make a move in that fight, angering Harriet with her comment then using her speed to get past her which also plays on Harriet's competitiveness. Then when Weiss and Ruby are in the same room they give each other a look and Ruby runs again. They likely both understood that Marrow and Harriet together would be too hard to beat so they split up again with Ruby drawing Harriet away until Weiss beat Marrow and could help Ruby. I'll try to keep this spoiler free as possible just in case but later it's confirmed they lost because of their conflicting feelings
i think he can like, freeze time on one thing for a certain amount of time or until it depletes his aura. so makes the question "why didnt he za warudo rwby in the aceops fight"
@@nicholove9625 There’s not being dependent on a semblance and then just making your life harder unnecessarily when all it takes is just a snap and you’ve incapacitated someone. Lol I just wish there was some explanation for it; as cool as it is, I just wish there was an established reason for why it is so I could just watch the fight and enjoy it fully.
Remember how Penny's strings were so strong they literally cut her to pieces? Harriet just plucked it out like it was a chicken feather. Can't even keep up with they're own world building or character development or any cool idea they ever had ever. Team CFVY. Oscar being an actual character. Having literally no hunters and when we do get some the team kicks there ass because plot armor. Remember the Ace Ops were personality chosen by Ironwood himself and they lost to kids who barely have they're license.
You’re excuse for penny wires is unreasonable. Her wires did not snap. They were pulled from the root. Durability plays no part in that. Their character development is stills shown and followed through. Team CFVY is in vacuo I don’t recall us reaching/seeing vacuo. Especially since they play no part yet. The Ace Ops held back. Due to them holding back their weakness were exposed and it was unrecoverable.
I FUCKING HATE THE ACE OPS! Also, what that faunus marrow dog whatever guy told Penny to "stay". He did that to Weiss too! It's not fair! I hate Elm most of all because she's a big thug and has issues.
i think what might happen is ironwood is planning to use her to open the vault, but watts is planning to double-cross him and use penny to help with salem's faction
The thing I hated is the rest of the team rwby didn’t used their gun version or semblance. Weiss could at least used her time dilation to help penny out or use her fast glyph just like the last seasons in volume 2. And Blake could have used her clone- but nah, the writers all forgot the shit of what they’re capable of
@@dinneyney4043 exactly! They seriously left their potential out, it is all about the plot. They are definitely going to capture Penny and make her evil, and the others will be helpless.
@@limogch4586 and what are they gonna do shit? ,4,5,6, volume was the shittest season for me. I totally hated how the fucking Rwby team just RAN STRAIGHT TOWARD them the aces team, not using their damn semblances then get whacked.
Marrow has the most broken semblance in existence. He has to point at you and say “STAY” and it doesn’t matter if you’re a riot, person or Grimm you’re stuck
Ruby,Weiss and Blake didn't need to hold on to each other like that Ruby can use her like petal burst thingy weiss can use her semblance to create platforms and blake can use her shadow clones to either pull her or her jump on them but its still a cool fight
It must be something where once you get the maiden powers it's second nature. She can use these powers but it's obvious it isn't super strong yet, as we've seen with other maidens.
@@niathebrave7729 It's just my assumption based on what the show gives me. Training and experience is still important. I imagine it's like suddenly knowing all the words of language you don't know, you can use the words, sure, but using them correctly is going to take time and practice. It sounds strange ik but I hope you understand what I mean.
Maybe it's something penny can do selectively. Like if one gets caught on something she can make the wire snap so she doesn't get seriously damaged or captured. Though it's most likely RT with more of it's swiss chease level writing 🤣.
@@ryusoongi7416 You forget, the platform still had some undamaged "Pillars" (I'mma call them pillars because I can't figure out what it is in english) And when she used her swords, she could only really hold it in place, barely even, which is why she had to freeze the ones that were slowly melting so the platform would'nt fall in the end, since I think it is still heavier than she can hold. Plus harriets infused weapon and semblence can give her a crazy amount of strength, she still struggled to pull though. I get the confusion but to me it makes sense that she was the one who could pull it, I could be missing some info though that may convince me otherwise
The fight choreography is pretty good, but I have a few complaints. 1. I’m not a fan of how they portrayed Penny using the Maidan powers. She looks like she’s already has a good grasp on how to use them, which doesn’t make sense since she only got them recently and I don’t know how she found the time to practice using them. 2. The excuse that the Ace Ops where holding back in their first fight is both laughable and straight up untrue. The only one holding back was Marrow. Everyone else made it super clear to team RWBY that they weren’t going to hold back and considered them to be traitors. This is just a very weak attempt from the writers to address the criticism from the fans about how that fight panned out. 3. There’s a lot of very slow moments during the fight. A lot of people just standing their and doing nothing. Vine especially. They should have animated him doing an action pose when he’s not fighting perhaps show is him preparing to do something in the background. 4. Marrow, just like in the first fight, should have just used his semblance to end the fight quickly. His ability is to stop time. It shouldn’t matter how physically storing his opponent is, time is absolute. Also, even is he can’t hold it for to long, it should only take a second for one of his other teammates to restrain Penny (as well as the members of team RWBY during the first fight).
I agree on Penny using the Maiden abilities too soon, but there's enough information that PROVES that the Ace-Ops were holding back (plus, you know...logic:/).
A lot of people overestimate Marrow’s semblance, it’s broken but it still has its drawbacks. Every time he uses his semblance he points in the direction of the person and says stay but who’s to say Penny can’t easily fly out of the direction he points at? And in volume 7 when he fought Weiss he only used his semblance twice (Weiss and her knight) before it tired him out, and literally one hit from Weiss broke his aura after. I don’t think his semblance is as broken as people make it seem as it definitely has its pros and cons.
I think Marrow prefers to use his Semblance opportunistically when an opening is present. Besides, we saw in his duel with Weiss that he continues to use it rapidly it can drain his aura level
what happened to their landing stradgety. they really made weiss and blake useless while falling... same with Jaune and yang the next ep... this is getting pathetic honestly
Wth is Jaime supposed to do, sure, Weiss has her Glyphs and Blake can just jump off her shadow clone, Yang can propel herself up with her gauntlets, but all Jaune can do is bounce off the ground with his sword
Harriet: gets her ass unquestionably trounced the hardest in a 4v1 fight. Also Harriet: grins like she actually has something to be smug about after getting her ass unquestionably trounced the hardest in a 4v1 fight.
Me as someone who's never watched RWBY: Oh hey this series looks interesting, might check it out Me after hearing that RT doesn't really care about RWBY anymore: Well shite Edit: To clarify, I had seen many youtubers and fans comment on how Rooster Teeth didn't really care about RWBY anymore, and got that impression as a result. Correct me if I'm wrong, perhaps my information is incomplete.
@@msnavy97 I got the impression from many youtubers and fans that Rooster Teeth didn't care about the RWBY series anymore, and I was disappointed because it looked pretty cool. I was also informed that a few of the volumes (4 and 5 specifically) were not very good.
@@dragonfell5078 Ok yeah the YT critic community around this series is actual cancer. The show is only getting more funding and resources and is by far and large RoosterTeeth’s most popular series. Volume 5 is definitely a low point in the series but volume 6 and 7 are fantastic. And volume 8 is looking great so far.
I think Penny's responses to impacts or stimulus is too human. I knew a girl who had developed the ability to not feel pain for a few years when I was a kid. She was essentially a scarecrow tied in front of a bullet train until she could feel pain again. Nothing stopped her, she was bold, and she didn't have to think about anything before she did it, so she didn't. She went flying off of the playground's tire swing, destroyed half her face, had scrapes down both her arms and really tore up her upper thigh, didn't grunt or squeal, (but she did make a surprised sound when she initially let go) and jumped up, didn't even look at her injuries, and tried to get back on. If I'm being honest, while my the rest of the kids ran to go get her dad, I cried with another older girl while she just laughed and bragged how it hurt. I eventually got used to it, because she became somewhat of a showoff until she got surgery to remedy this. My point, no pain (with consideration to force, injury, and stamina) equals inhuman recovery times and something less bothersome to worry about. Penny fights too much like a human, and her responses to stimulus (like Nora's electrified hammer or being hit) are too human as well.
Penny fights like NU/ Lambda from Blazblue and I absolutely love it ! She rocks ! So much for having Penny pegged right from the start, Harriet. Harriet got owned ! ;-)
It's not as OP as everyone thinks though. It's direction-based meaning it wouldn't fare well against people who can unleash multi-directional AOE attacks (like Weiss). He's also got a limit as well
Marrow: "We were holding back!... which is why I won't act like a dumbass any more and actually use my broken powers from the start" *RWBY if written by competent writers*
Just because a character is not reliant on their semblance no matter how broken doesn’t mean they are a dumbass. How would you have continued the story exactly? They got apprehended they got arrested. Put into a jail cell. Winter would have got killed. JNR would get captured. Now what is your approach to season 8.
@@tyrian5653 "How would you have continued the story exactly?" Here's a brilliant new concept! How bout NOT create such a broken ass power in the first place if it creates so many plot holes! So broken in fact that if your character has to take dumbass pills to suddenly not use said broken ass power, then you clearly fucked up the writing process!
Not sure if this has already been addressed, but Marrow telling them that they were holding back isn't literal. I don't know how to explain it, but it probably meant that he knew they were bested and so he was trying to justify themselves being beaten out of embarrassment.
Ok ok I just have one BIG PROBLEM 1:22 to 1:46 I'll let all of u figure it out because it's pretty easy to see (I'll give you a hint It has to deal with elm)
i mean is not for calling out no one iq but stop complaining of penny and remember she is a friggin robot for once for the love of god have you never seen any robot in pop culture a series in 2020 has to explain them to you?
Awful. Just... awful. The ending was so lazy and with much nonsense. If only the battle ended in a different way, there could be nothing to say about. But the battle was a total crap. Penny had the victory but guess what? *Yes. The fucking bad writing. The battle isn't worth to watch again.*
How would have you ended the battle exactly? How exactly does that explain bad writing. They weren’t able to apprehend penny they missed their shot. So instead of exerting that energy again watts said a better way. Which favored his malicious intents and ironwood disabling penny
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The only thing I hated in this fight is that Ruby, Weiss and Blake didn't use the guns version of their weapons, it would've atleast done something to help out Penny
Weiss technically is the only one in team RWBY who doesn’t use her rapier as a gun, she only uses Myrtenaster as a sword and nothing more
@@elusivo3347 That is true and I never noticed that, but I think it’s because she has her Semblance
@@elusivo3347 oof, I completely forgot about that
I thought the same. The fights at this point should be them utilizing their abilities and weapons to the max.
Weis would have supported her with her glyphs, especially her time dilation (which writers forgot) would've been *really* helpful
Damn Harriet got a new sword? Maybe it'll cost a Penny?
Too soon?
I'm just trying to make cents of it.
That joke has been so overused, it became as CHEAP as a DIME
@@perigraph6644 &flynt DAMN IT BARB
@@decaytred9500 DAMN IT BARB
penny's string pulled a goddam platform!!! but harriet just pulled it out so easily???
Amber: Is defeated because she lacked experience.
Penny who just got her powers literally like last night: *Snow go brrrr*
Makes no sense at all. So many inconsistencies
I think Amber was fine with her maiden powers but lacked combat prowess. Penny has always been "combat ready"
That's cause Penny's already an experienced huntress and is focusing on that that rather than relying on her Maiden powers. I also like that she's using a wind tunnel like Fria did. She learns quick.
Also Penny’s a robot.
She’s probably capable of learning to use her new powers more efficiently than any normal human possibly could.
Also Amber most likely didn’t know the previous Fall Maiden, if you watch V3 you see that the way Cinder mimics the way Amber used the maiden powers against her, Mercury and Emerald. It seems to be a “monkey see, monkey do” kind of thing since Penny uses her maiden powers as she saw Fria use them last volume
This fight was so good. Also Harriet ate all the words she said.
If you ignore how Marrow could've easily ended the fight from the get-go and how the best huntsmen and huntresses in Atlas couldn't win against a girl who only recently got the Maiden power when Cinder Mercury and Emerald were able to defeat Amber on their own sure.
@@BerksAreCool ı will be honest, if RT doesn’t give us a good explaination why Marrow just doesn’t use it from start, they shouldn't have given this semblance to him right from the start. And best hunters? Are we sure cuz they are same people who lost their cool at their fight against rwby. One said they gathered this way cuz their semblances were compatible. They didnt just get 5 best hunter of Atlas and made a team. They can all call them best or elite, for me they are not. And come on Penny is a robot. She was already powerful before maiden powers. She can analyz very well too. At first attack of Harriet she calculated she was gonna come from back used her blades to stop her. Its shame they couldnt beat Penny but like i said ı dont think they are best.
@@mizel.i lol there not the "best" there the only ones in that kingdom lol (if your not counting Winter)
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It could’ve been easy to explain, they could’ve just had marrow say that his semblance wouldn’t be able to hold penny for long due to her newfound maiden power and that’s why the ace ops had no choice but to take her on directly.
@@mizel.i or maybe we wouldn't have had a fight. have you not considered that?
You'd think they'd tell the Polendina that one of Penny's Swords was taken. That's definitely gonna bite them in the ass
Penny already knows one of her swords are taken
Not really
@@jamesrobson8308 judging from her wince I think she’s knows. Unless you can’t tell me otherwise.
@@a5h3r72 I'm not saying she doesn't know
She already knows, she felt the string come out her back, and I think it hurt her
Anyone else think Marrow is starting to question ironwood orders?
Possibly though the longer that they drag things out with the Ace Ops actually questioning it, the greater the PIS feels. They saw Ironwood straight up shoot a guy simply because he questioned him. The whole thing of ‘a soldier doesn’t question orders’ only gets you so far when your orders are actively hurting the innocent
I mean it's pretty evident he is, though he's a soldier following orders even soldiers have morale judgement of right and wrong and still sometimes have a choice to follow them or not
ME!!!
3:48 Weiss can literally create platforms in midair out of nothing and control momentum
Everyone forgot their landing strategies due to bad writing.
Christopher S Blake even ran up a wall at a 90 degree angle in volume 1. And Ruby just recoiled herself back up. My god
You know, this volume seems to have this recurring trend of characters falling from a high place but are saved at the last second (Ren saving Jaune and Yang while chasing Oscar, and then here Marrow getting saved twice and Ruby saving Blake and Weiss). I'm half expecting that this gets subverted later on where it looks like someone's falling to their death... and they actually do die.
You got the order of events wrong, but you right
no one was there to save penny from falling sadly
I mean. Cinder and Adam also fell to their deaths.
penny used her strings to CARRY a goddam platform. and harriet just pulled it like that?!?!
HUUUHHHH???
EXACTLY HOW THE HELL DID SHE EVEM MANAGE TO SNATCH THAT SWORD?
I said this 2 weeks ago and got cused out just for mentioning it. These people behind this are so out of touch its disgusting 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
@@huh5909 ikrrrrr like it just doesn't make sense
now you might call me bullshit on this but she was using nine sword on the platform which evenly distributes it more between each sword while Harriet only had to deal with one, arguably i could possibly see 10 Harriets hold off a slowly falling platform but only for a little while, Penny had to do so long enough to restabilize the pillars looking at it this way its not completely out of the realm of possibility
Harriet's weapons are dust infused and designed to give her super strength in the last volume she held down a giant mammoth grimm for Ruby and Penny to attack so it makes sense that she would have the strength to break at least one
HARRIET BREE trying to run through penny's attack was hilarious to me
She should use the speed force like The Flash did.
High key tired of these people trying to jump penny 😭literally the most sweet and genuine character of the show and constantly has more than 3 people after her head like where is the fairness in that she keeps getting the poohpooh end of the stick
Not as strong as the RWBY vs Ace Ops fight but still a great spectacle to watch. I really liked how despite the sheer amount of raw power Penny possessed as a maiden the Ace Ops still achieved something somewhat beneficial to their side by playing smart and making great use of their abilities. Reminds me a lot of Cinder, Emerald and Mercury vs Amber
Also I love the four-note maiden leitmotif that plays in the background at 1:00 - 1:04. It's a nice attention to detail and the maiden motif is probably one of my favourite music cues in the RWBY score, mainly because it just sounds so grand and mystical....
I do wish the fight kinda lasted longer tho. I wanted to see RWB fight Ace Ops and see possibly the long-missed Iceflower or Ladybug team attacks (the V5 ladybug doesn't count because it's offscreen). Also I wish they will point out the stolen Penny sword in the later episodes. Weiss and Blake were already on to something suspicious so I hope they manage to find a way to counter Watt's inevitable hacking schemes
Also I'm glad they remodeled the Blake bobcat and the Weiss braid. They look really pretty in those new hairdos
Yes I noticed that Leimotif too!!
Alex Abraham is a freaking genius !!
I really liked that fight ... short but sweet, with great visuals, and awesome use of team work. Penny may be a Maiden but she still only has the powers for a few hours, yet she still did pretty good against the Ace Ops. I'm hoping for a Penny vs Cinder Maiden fight, please CRWBY, make it happen this volume!
“We were holding back!”
Sure Jan.
@Julian R how could they be nerfed in the same Volume they were introduced in? That’s not nerfing that’s showing and establishing limits in the season characters are introduced.
@Julian R Marrow could have but then we wouldn’t have gotten a great fight. Plus Marrow’s semblance takes a toll on him and he doesn’t want to fight so by the time everything started, Harriet had chased Ruby out, and Blake and Yang split off from the group.
@Julian R well, that’s just, like, your opinion man.
@Julian R How dare this fight not be in par with those funded by professional studios with years of experience and baskets of money.
@Julian R okay, so a big battle in the worst produced season was bad. Two volumes separate from the one where the Ace Ops were introduced. look at literally every other fight after. They are all good to amazing. Even Cinder Vs Raven was a total spectacle.
Was I the only one laughing when the Ace Ops tried handcuffing Penny only to witness an explosion that sends the door flying and crushes them with the door?
One thing I love to point out to people is how coincidentally in this fight the Ace Ops actually work together as a team. As opposed to when they fought RWBY and they didn't work as a team at all.
And I'm going to say it again. MARROWS SEMBLANCE IS FUCKING OP
Yeah that was the major reason they lost to team RWBY is that they hadn't worked as a team
Well Team RWBY intentional split up the Ace Ops. Ruby was the first to make a move in that fight, angering Harriet with her comment then using her speed to get past her which also plays on Harriet's competitiveness. Then when Weiss and Ruby are in the same room they give each other a look and Ruby runs again. They likely both understood that Marrow and Harriet together would be too hard to beat so they split up again with Ruby drawing Harriet away until Weiss beat Marrow and could help Ruby.
I'll try to keep this spoiler free as possible just in case but later it's confirmed they lost because of their conflicting feelings
@@JStar55555 yep basically that
So based on what I can see, the spring and winter maidens basically have the same powers.
All the maidens have the same powers.
Nora turned to super saiyan.
Yeah, she and Yang gonna go Super Saiyan and clash!
@@metalgaming841 not during Salem’s attack (same energy as “not during a pandemic”)
she’s like a combination of irelia from league and alisa from tekken
Penny: 0:21 and 1:05
Marrow: 2:05
I just found it funny how marrow got knocked out twice.
Penny with that epic kick to marrow
Yeah omg🤮🤮🤮🤦🏾♂️refers vol 1to 3. 🤺🤺🤺✌
Not as good as Me, Emerald and Cinder vs Amber.
Raven vs Cinder: *laughing*
Oh please phyra did better against a maiden than they did
@@malcolmwhitehead1101 yuppppppp!!! pyrrha was just something else. Imagine if she got the maiden powers
I like how they really underutilize the aceops here most of them more then capable of countering the group
Why’s the video stuttering?
Why didn’t Marrow just use his semblance at the start of the fight...?
I just need an explanation for how it works at this point.
Plot.. i guess?
@@takkarsasori8961
DAMN YOU PLOT
*shakes fist*
i think he can like, freeze time on one thing for a certain amount of time or until it depletes his aura. so makes the question "why didnt he za warudo rwby in the aceops fight"
Because of the build of tension. Marrow isn’t dependent on his semblance.
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There’s not being dependent on a semblance and then just making your life harder unnecessarily when all it takes is just a snap and you’ve incapacitated someone. Lol
I just wish there was some explanation for it; as cool as it is, I just wish there was an established reason for why it is so I could just watch the fight and enjoy it fully.
Remember how Penny's strings were so strong they literally cut her to pieces? Harriet just plucked it out like it was a chicken feather. Can't even keep up with they're own world building or character development or any cool idea they ever had ever. Team CFVY. Oscar being an actual character. Having literally no hunters and when we do get some the team kicks there ass because plot armor. Remember the Ace Ops were personality chosen by Ironwood himself and they lost to kids who barely have they're license.
Plucking something from the root has nothing to do with it’s durability, to be fair.
That's a weird think to be critical of. While you're at it you might want to mention Blake's indestructible and infinitely elastic ribbon.
You’re excuse for penny wires is unreasonable. Her wires did not snap. They were pulled from the root. Durability plays no part in that. Their character development is stills shown and followed through. Team CFVY is in vacuo I don’t recall us reaching/seeing vacuo. Especially since they play no part yet. The Ace Ops held back. Due to them holding back their weakness were exposed and it was unrecoverable.
I FUCKING HATE THE ACE OPS! Also, what that faunus marrow dog whatever guy told Penny to "stay". He did that to Weiss too! It's not fair! I hate Elm most of all because she's a big thug and has issues.
But they weren’t even going to hurt your friends...
They had orders to capture Penny and arrest the others
NOra with such a mighty thor smash hahahahaha that was hot
The physics of how Penny’s swords operate with those strings on her back is beyond me
I feel like they are gonna turn Penny against her friends, they are so stupid, they are suppose to protect Penny from Salem
They do,
i think what might happen is ironwood is planning to use her to open the vault, but watts is planning to double-cross him and use penny to help with salem's faction
The thing I hated is the rest of the team rwby didn’t used their gun version or semblance. Weiss could at least used her time dilation to help penny out or use her fast glyph just like the last seasons in volume 2. And Blake could have used her clone- but nah, the writers all forgot the shit of what they’re capable of
@@dinneyney4043 exactly! They seriously left their potential out, it is all about the plot. They are definitely going to capture Penny and make her evil, and the others will be helpless.
@@limogch4586 and what are they gonna do shit? ,4,5,6, volume was the shittest season for me. I totally hated how the fucking Rwby team just RAN STRAIGHT TOWARD them the aces team, not using their damn semblances then get whacked.
*bruh marrow and his op ass semblance*
Marrow has the most broken semblance in existence. He has to point at you and say “STAY” and it doesn’t matter if you’re a riot, person or Grimm you’re stuck
I am convinced that team RWBY is useless.....
Pretty much
In here yeah
Ruby,Weiss and Blake didn't need to hold on to each other like that Ruby can use her like petal burst thingy weiss can use her semblance to create platforms and blake can use her shadow clones to either pull her or her jump on them but its still a cool fight
Wait a minute, how did penny learn to control her power in one day, Raven and Cinder had to train to fully control theirs.
It must be something where once you get the maiden powers it's second nature. She can use these powers but it's obvious it isn't super strong yet, as we've seen with other maidens.
@@GlitchyPresident is that how they really work
@@niathebrave7729 It's just my assumption based on what the show gives me. Training and experience is still important. I imagine it's like suddenly knowing all the words of language you don't know, you can use the words, sure, but using them correctly is going to take time and practice. It sounds strange ik but I hope you understand what I mean.
@@GlitchyPresident it's still weird but okay, I do hope penny does train like them
She's a robot. Robots don't learn fast than humans, as people said??
Imagine Ozpin with his magic plus all four maiden powers
That's Ozma's original power, which is equal to Salem's current power.
The music is a epic ass bangerific banger
penny's strings are supposed to be strong. how come harriet just pulled it out so easy?
Ikr
Maybe it's something penny can do selectively. Like if one gets caught on something she can make the wire snap so she doesn't get seriously damaged or captured. Though it's most likely RT with more of it's swiss chease level writing 🤣.
@@elisonholace4033 "damaged/captured" bro penny could literally carry an arena and pull a platform.
Harriet's weapon is dust infused to give her super strength you can even see it light up when starts to pull on it
@@ryusoongi7416 You forget, the platform still had some undamaged "Pillars" (I'mma call them pillars because I can't figure out what it is in english)
And when she used her swords, she could only really hold it in place, barely even, which is why she had to freeze the ones that were slowly melting so the platform would'nt fall in the end, since I think it is still heavier than she can hold.
Plus harriets infused weapon and semblence can give her a crazy amount of strength, she still struggled to pull though. I get the confusion but to me it makes sense that she was the one who could pull it, I could be missing some info though that may convince me otherwise
PENNY IS SO AWESOME!
The fight choreography is pretty good, but I have a few complaints.
1. I’m not a fan of how they portrayed Penny using the Maidan powers. She looks like she’s already has a good grasp on how to use them, which doesn’t make sense since she only got them recently and I don’t know how she found the time to practice using them.
2. The excuse that the Ace Ops where holding back in their first fight is both laughable and straight up untrue. The only one holding back was Marrow. Everyone else made it super clear to team RWBY that they weren’t going to hold back and considered them to be traitors. This is just a very weak attempt from the writers to address the criticism from the fans about how that fight panned out.
3. There’s a lot of very slow moments during the fight. A lot of people just standing their and doing nothing. Vine especially. They should have animated him doing an action pose when he’s not fighting perhaps show is him preparing to do something in the background.
4. Marrow, just like in the first fight, should have just used his semblance to end the fight quickly. His ability is to stop time. It shouldn’t matter how physically storing his opponent is, time is absolute. Also, even is he can’t hold it for to long, it should only take a second for one of his other teammates to restrain Penny (as well as the members of team RWBY during the first fight).
Seems to be a recurring thing, ppl just standing there in a middle of a fight. Wouldn't be the first time it happened, and it's far from the last.
I agree on Penny using the Maiden abilities too soon, but there's enough information that PROVES that the Ace-Ops were holding back (plus, you know...logic:/).
Remember when people fucking teleported in vol 3 qrow vs winter? Good times
In response to no. 2: Or it was an excuse given by the Ace Ops to save face
A lot of people overestimate Marrow’s semblance, it’s broken but it still has its drawbacks. Every time he uses his semblance he points in the direction of the person and says stay but who’s to say Penny can’t easily fly out of the direction he points at? And in volume 7 when he fought Weiss he only used his semblance twice (Weiss and her knight) before it tired him out, and literally one hit from Weiss broke his aura after. I don’t think his semblance is as broken as people make it seem as it definitely has its pros and cons.
Wait wait wait so he can make a maiden stay and he waited till the end to use it bro really
I think Marrow prefers to use his Semblance opportunistically when an opening is present. Besides, we saw in his duel with Weiss that he continues to use it rapidly it can drain his aura level
Daryl Franklin, Jr. I get what your saying but I think marrow really be bugging
@@darylsdesigns6679 Yeah I don't mind that though he did have one while they were arguing
Why build all that tension the draw of weapons and everything if your just going to do that. That’s boring
what happened to their landing stradgety. they really made weiss and blake useless while falling... same with Jaune and yang the next ep... this is getting pathetic honestly
Wth is Jaime supposed to do, sure, Weiss has her Glyphs and Blake can just jump off her shadow clone, Yang can propel herself up with her gauntlets, but all Jaune can do is bounce off the ground with his sword
I see it as symbolism that they are going to fall that’s atlas will undoubtedly fall. Cause those types of falls happened a lot.
they knew ruby was gonna use her semblance to bring them back up
Nora went super saiyan xD
Harriet: gets her ass unquestionably trounced the hardest in a 4v1 fight.
Also Harriet: grins like she actually has something to be smug about after getting her ass unquestionably trounced the hardest in a 4v1 fight.
The dude coulda just said stay at like the beginning tho when everyone just standing still
Me as someone who's never watched RWBY: Oh hey this series looks interesting, might check it out
Me after hearing that RT doesn't really care about RWBY anymore: Well shite
Edit: To clarify, I had seen many youtubers and fans comment on how Rooster Teeth didn't really care about RWBY anymore, and got that impression as a result. Correct me if I'm wrong, perhaps my information is incomplete.
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Huh?????? Tf r u talking about?
@@msnavy97 I got the impression from many youtubers and fans that Rooster Teeth didn't care about the RWBY series anymore, and I was disappointed because it looked pretty cool. I was also informed that a few of the volumes (4 and 5 specifically) were not very good.
@@dragonfell5078 Ok yeah the YT critic community around this series is actual cancer.
The show is only getting more funding and resources and is by far and large RoosterTeeth’s most popular series.
Volume 5 is definitely a low point in the series but volume 6 and 7 are fantastic. And volume 8 is looking great so far.
@@cbhensoncbhenson5515 Ah, I see. Should I check it out?
I think Penny's responses to impacts or stimulus is too human.
I knew a girl who had developed the ability to not feel pain for a few years when I was a kid. She was essentially a scarecrow tied in front of a bullet train until she could feel pain again. Nothing stopped her, she was bold, and she didn't have to think about anything before she did it, so she didn't. She went flying off of the playground's tire swing, destroyed half her face, had scrapes down both her arms and really tore up her upper thigh, didn't grunt or squeal, (but she did make a surprised sound when she initially let go) and jumped up, didn't even look at her injuries, and tried to get back on.
If I'm being honest, while my the rest of the kids ran to go get her dad, I cried with another older girl while she just laughed and bragged how it hurt. I eventually got used to it, because she became somewhat of a showoff until she got surgery to remedy this.
My point, no pain (with consideration to force, injury, and stamina) equals inhuman recovery times and something less bothersome to worry about. Penny fights too much like a human, and her responses to stimulus (like Nora's electrified hammer or being hit) are too human as well.
Penny fights like NU/ Lambda from Blazblue and I absolutely love it !
She rocks ! So much for having Penny pegged right from the start, Harriet. Harriet got owned ! ;-)
How did you record this? The quality seems to be off.
Love how Harriet keeps eating shit after stating that they're the "best huntsmen in Atlas" Are you sure Hare? Are you sure~
They are. They were nerfed in the last volume's end, and now they're LITERALLY fighting one of the most powerful entities in the world:/
Damn, they couldn't handle Team RWBY and they're barley holding their own against Penny.
If only they had some "luck" on their side 🍀
Sadly, Penny had to pay the price of "losing", even with the maiden power. Wish to see the fight ending in a different way.
They could've easily defeated team RWBY but couldn't because the girls had plot armor.
Marrow's semblance is too OP
Meh. I've seen way more OP things than that.
Shame he doesn't use it much like when the rally got attacked or vs weiss
It's not as OP as everyone thinks though. It's direction-based meaning it wouldn't fare well against people who can unleash multi-directional AOE attacks (like Weiss). He's also got a limit as well
@@jamesrobson8308 he used it on weiss...she exploited its weakness
@@maiseree1511 It mostly not OP because Marrow is too stupid to use it when opportunities arise.
Comparado a cinder a Penny levou a surra
Marrow: "We were holding back!... which is why I won't act like a dumbass any more and actually use my broken powers from the start"
*RWBY if written by competent writers*
Just because a character is not reliant on their semblance no matter how broken doesn’t mean they are a dumbass. How would you have continued the story exactly? They got apprehended they got arrested. Put into a jail cell. Winter would have got killed. JNR would get captured. Now what is your approach to season 8.
@@tyrian5653 "How would you have continued the story exactly?"
Here's a brilliant new concept! How bout NOT create such a broken ass power in the first place if it creates so many plot holes! So broken in fact that if your character has to take dumbass pills to suddenly not use said broken ass power, then you clearly fucked up the writing process!
If this fight was power level consistent: 0:09 - 2:13 would be cut out.
Not sure if this has already been addressed, but Marrow telling them that they were holding back isn't literal. I don't know how to explain it, but it probably meant that he knew they were bested and so he was trying to justify themselves being beaten out of embarrassment.
So many things wrong with this fight
Tell me a few things
Like what?
why didnt that dog just use stay from the start?
Couldnt she just send three swords at each of them while blowing ice at them
Ok ok I just have one BIG PROBLEM 1:22 to 1:46 I'll let all of u figure it out because it's pretty easy to see (I'll give you a hint It has to deal with elm)
Oh she never performs the hammer swing she was gearing up to
Omg I wonder if we’re thinking the same thing. How Elm is on the other side of the bridge and then is suddenly behind Penny at 1:46?
Oh that. She threw the hammer at penny. Yea that was quick to miss.
Phtttttt Noraaaa XDXD BOOOOOMMM
Nora Pikachu
Norachu
@@rubyrosie_ sksksksksks
Ha ha! Funny, eh? 😁
If I was her I would have just froze them
alan watts
i mean is not for calling out no one iq but stop complaining of penny and remember she is a friggin robot for once for the love of god have you never seen any robot in pop culture a series in 2020 has to explain them to you?
Eh this fight was... passable, I guess.
Awful. Just... awful. The ending was so lazy and with much nonsense. If only the battle ended in a different way, there could be nothing to say about. But the battle was a total crap.
Penny had the victory but guess what?
*Yes. The fucking bad writing. The battle isn't worth to watch again.*
Out of curiosity, what would you have done differently? Or what would have made it better for you specifically
How would have you ended the battle exactly? How exactly does that explain bad writing. They weren’t able to apprehend penny they missed their shot. So instead of exerting that energy again watts said a better way. Which favored his malicious intents and ironwood disabling penny
Naah, thier choreography are just bad. Waste of movement that not connect combo.