AMD Phenom II X6, time of death, 2019
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- The AMD Phenom II 1090T seems like a value 6 core CPU on paper, but in practice the games of 2019 put the nail in the Phenom's coffin. #amd #phenom #CPU
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Oh man, I'm watching this right now on my AMD Athlon II X2 250 at 720p. BUT I do have a Ryzen 5 2600X on it's way and I am excited to build a new rig.
Nillaferilla Congrats bro, enjoy it! It’s an amazing CPU, should be way better!
(make sure you spend more on rgb than the actual cpu)
Wow, you're going to feel like jumping from a 2 cylinder 50hp Geo metro into a V6 Turbo sports car haha. Enjoy!
I wish I could experience huge jumps again. I remember going from Phenom 955 to 6600k, or 950 to 1070 (triple performance). Nowadays with an 8700k and 1080Ti I'm unlikely to see a big jump anytime soon, not unless I hold steady for many years.
@@Malus1531 update in 7-8 years to similar performing parts ;)
Athlon x2 340 here, nothing on the way yet...
It's time to upgrade to the FX processor! Yeah!
Buy a Ryzen when the 3000 series come out. :)
XD Bahahahaha. Okay, true, an OC'd FX 8350 or better can still work relatively well in most games, but... yeah
Would not touch bulldozer cpus (fx and type A) unless I wanted a space heater that's runs around the speed of a 2nd gen i5 quad core (I can buy a whole i5 3-4th gen system for the price people are trying to sell there fx and type A cpus for)
@@redheadknight6297 I've done a lot of upgrades but this is the one I'm holding out on. That, and maybe Navi.
I mean if someone still has one it will get the job done, but its gonna bottleneck most gpus. But its adequate, I still reccomend upgrading to at least a ryzen 1200 if you can afford it. But with ddr4 ram being a bit expensive, I can understand why people would wait. The cpu, motherboard, and ddr4 can cost a lot. It took me a little while to get my ryzen 1300x because ram was so expensive.
I'm still rocking a AMD Phenon II 1100T!
Do you can run rage 2 and wolfenstein young blood, on this cpu?
still using my 1090t lol
im stil using my 1090t
haha same running a 1100t be
I have a 1090t and an hd6970 2 gig. Playing wildlands right now lol
I use a Phenom II X6 based PC to watch p*rn and I haven't noticed any FPS drop so far.
this guy knows what's up, computers are just fap stations primarily, everything else doesn't matter.
That Faps Per Second, right?
@@dannyc7839 yeah, that's what I meant
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!
603 is a great result! Smashes the FX-6300 comfortably. The issue with the CPU instructions is annoying and likely the death for all the LGA 775 and AM3 stuff. Prices should be coming down because of this.
😰 Noooo! 😫😓😞☹️ RIP 😔 💀💀💀💀
🙂 if i see any working good reliable 775s super cheap i will pickemup to donate to my family members in the third world, all they really use is the browser and ms apps like Word, ill add an HD 7570 just in case they wana play some old indy games ✌️😏
@@MrSamadolfo Xeon E5450 is the best bang for your buck CPU, if y our motherboard supports it :)
Yep... But, still good for retro gaming!!!
@@maybelive765 Totally! Windows XP, or a Windows 7/10 GOG/Steam Retro Box and of course emulation should work great on these.
This is my old CPU and my dad is using this and my old 7950 3gb. I was getting lows of 13 frames on Fortnite at 720p and there was nothing I could do to fix it. Oh well my dad crushes solitaire and email with it.
something was wrong
you were using a 6 core phenom and a 3gb 7950 and only getting 13fps on 720 fortnite?
that makes no sense
I've gotten better fps using crappier cpus all the time
Edit- Ok you said lows, not average, but even then I know I've built pcs worse that this recently that didn't drop that much
That's weird..... Athlon x4 with a 7850 destroys fortnite at 1080 at max settings.... Even plays Witcher 3 at a solid 45fps at 1080 high settings.
7950 is OLD?? oh man... Oh man... WHERE WAS I THE LAST 10 YEARS????
That's the thing, as we know the processor is used more in the lower resolutions. So an older processor might actually fare better in 4K than in 1080p/720p. At higher resolutions the strain is taken to the video card and there is less things for the CPU to do. Too bad TimmyJoe didn't realise this.
@@0cyb3r0 hmm... Thats not true the CPU still has to do lots of work... Resolution doesnt matter, if you have a CPU bottleneck, you'll see bad lows no matter what
9 years ago? Jeebus, that's like 9 years Canadian time.
The first phenom II launched even earlier and the six cores are more or less the same architecture. So technically, your looking at a CPU that's a full ten years old.
I'm still running my AMD Opteron 185. this dual core CPU was made in 2006.
my phenom 6 1090t just died also, lasted over 9 years :\ RIP
@@anroboticus643 i'm still rocking mine, going strong for 8 years now
@kyle bernard eh no different then the government
best chance? so you use an AM2+ board over an AM3? or AM3+
also I'm curious about the north bridge oc's people are mentioning below.
Ahh i miss the days when overclocking was just your North Bridge
Biggest downside to the Phenom II is the lack of SSE3 support that some games require. But this review is pathetic
Still no Northbridge or Hyper Transport overclocking. I've overclocked a few Phenom II cpus... dual core, triple core, quad core and hex core... pure core clocks do not make for a optimal overclock. Tried saying this on the last video, all three make up the trinity of Phenom II overclocking.
It's not going to make up for missing instruction sets, but, NB helps memory bandwidth and latency, while HT helps core to core communications. Hyper Transport is somewhat similar to the infinity fabric... except it's on its own overclockable multiplier and not based on ram speed.
What I found out when I was doing my first overclocks ever on my old Athlon II X2 245 was that when I tried to increase the core clock by itself, to say, 20% up I would get worse results when I used the "premade" 10% overclock profiles. So I figured that overclocking these things is a bit more complex that just pressing the core clocks up.
Agree, im still using a phenom 2 x4 955, I have the NB overclocked as well as the cpu (to 3.8ghz). Can't remember if I have the hyper transport overclocked though.
I tried to overclock my Phenom 955 once, was too confusing, especially with locked multiplier and BCLK overclocking.
supposedly ryzen gen 3 will have infinity fabric clocks decoupled from the ram speed
here's hoping it's somehow overclockable
@@KingHalbatorix It would be awesome if AMD did that. I have a feeling a combination of the infinity fabric and memory controller, might be part of what screws Ryzen over when it comes to high speed ram. A silicon lottery for the memory controller and a silicon lottery for the infinity fabric.
A bit like some phenom chips were touchy when it came to Hypertransport being raised.
"Fortnight is a game that everyone plays". Everyone but me and I honestly take pride in that fact.
I don't play fartnite either lol
I have and will not play that crappy game
Same here!...I'd rather Farcry
The game is lame to me!...I dont get what's so great about it?....
It's a game for children. Lots of adults have never played it.
Did u try sata 3 ssd to boost data transfer?
overclocking the northbridge on the x6 will help a lot with memory bandwidth
it still can play 2019 games above 60 like re2 remake and ace combat 7, tested both here
Interesting 🙄🤭👍
I'm living proof of that.
Windows 7 64 bit OS
Azza Hurricane 2000 Case
Amd Phenom II X6 1100T processor
Sapphire R9 390 8GB GDDR5 video card
16GB DDR3 memory
1TB HDD
Asus M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 Motherboard
Samsung 32" LN32C450 60HZ TV
Everything is 34-36C Idle and 50C Under load air cooled
Radeon software boosted games resolution to 1440P
yup me too, re2 remake played just fine here, been wanting to try for sekiro lol. win 7 64bit gtx 960
Been using the 1055t 3.5ghz and i cant complain medium to high setting on the games i play
One whole play through of RE2 Remake @ 4K, then bumped it down to 1440 for better FPS. Renders Hell Blade Senua's Sacrafice at 4k, but frame rates dip below acceptable, 1440 seems to run well for a cinematic experience.
Hey there Timmy, your videos are so awesome!!!! you show pizazz and love for the joy of computers. Your expiation of all the technical specs for all the hardware is greatly appreciated! Keep up the awesome work!!!! Ferda
Agreed. Give that man some Tim Horton
Did you overclock the NB on the chip as this can see massive boosts?
How about a look on how well x58 does in apex legends ?
It should have sse4.2 support on for example the i7 930
I ran it only 1 time on i7 920 oced to 4.2 ghz with r9 280x also oced and it ran with no stuttering with about 60 fps on medium or high quality I think. I will be back to this game i think so i can tell you precise results in a few days. Also waiting for a X5660 and it will be very nice upgrade, because in metro on high or im odyssey on high/adjusted with help from Hardware Unboxed im getting 42 fps avg in benchmark but in the cities there is stuttering and fps is even between 25-35. All games at FullHD of course.
Phenom was my in my first gaming PC, RIP little guy.
up until recently one of my rigs still had the Phenom II X 940 AM2 (DDR2 memory). If I remember correctly, the memory bandwidth was less than half of an FX DDR3 (which is less than half of a Ryzen DDR4). So maybe the lags in some of the games may be due to extensive memory and I/O operations?
There are newer Phenoms on the AM3 platform that use DDR3, and the performance boost isn't double. I think the 8XX generation of Phenoms are on DDR2 and the 9XX generation are on DDR3... At least my 965 is on DDR3 for sure.
@@0cyb3r0 most (all?) phenom ii CPUs have both memory controllers, ddr2 and ddr3. They could be used in both sockets am2+ and am3. In am2+ sockets they would draw even more power and really I was glad sometimes in winter because it was an auxiliary heater.
@1 2 I was more thinking of bandwidth than of timing. And there the differences are huge.
Been watching your videos for several months now and just noticed something about your monitor. I have the ASUS PG278Q and the base of that BenQ looks identical. Even has the ROG Mayan pattern. Did you somehow mount the BenQ monitor onto the ASUS base?
Did you overclock CPU-NB? That makes big difference in phenoms performance, at stock it runs at 2GHz while i read many got 3GHz on 6 core phenoms. L3 cache on phenoms run at CPU-NB clock, and that can really be bottleneck in some situations. On phenom II x4 i had, even 2.5GHz OC on it made big difference, couldnt do more because crappy motherboard. Well there are also some tweaks on FX that help but i dont know much because i never had FX.
yes this is the best method, gets rid of nasty fps drops and raising the minimum fps i found.
Did lowering settings help with the fps? Other than instruction limitations it should still be good.
Thats what i'm using right now while watching this video! Still kicking strong and great for day to day task. Here to another 10 years!
The phenom should be able to go on a DDR3 board. It might be the RAM that's killing it.
It does work on DDR3, mine was using DDR3 anyway
I'm using 1600mhz 16 gbs ddr3 on mine, apex has never had any issues. It's also in a am3+ board though.
@@tfkoincognito phenom can Apex now?
@@shadowblastxtreme9032 yes
@@JunioJsv oh really? i will try it.
Ran a Phenom ii x6 up until last August. Thing worked good, but you could tell the time was coming, and that a new rig was necessary.
Apex Legends used to run on my Phenom II B95 until they updated it for valentines, so it's not like the Phenom actually couldn't run it. They just screwed everyone with an old CPU over.
thanks for the info, black ops 4 was the same issue, far cry new dawn works on a phenom now, wich is based on the far cry 5 engine that dont run on a phenom.
It doesn't run because of the anti piracy system, it needs SSE4.1 to run and the Phenom 2 don't have that instruction set
@@rodrigofilho1996 it didn't need SSE4.1 when it first came out. They added that "requirement" later.
yeah i remember i was playing a counterstrike game on steam AGES AGO, with my old AMD Athlon XP-M 2200+ that had a massive overclock on it, and one day a patch came and i couldn't play anymore because my cpu can't do SSE2, sucked :(
I'm more interested in the "correct" OC'ing some people were discussing below involving the NB
not saying the Phenom 2 isn't on it's last legs anyway (granted I think dead is an overkill term) but curious to see what extra kick a "proper" oc gives
or maybe it's BS I don't know.
I'm too lazy to bust out my own 1055t and run my own tests.
There is a lot of truth to over clocking a Phenom II "properly." In memory intensive games, a solid northbridge overclock will yield excellent gains.
@@MagnumXL420 if u have a phenom 2 + am3 board I recommend upgrading the board first to a 970 am3+. Then upgrading the CPU to a FX 83XX then OC it, The FX 83XX does fine with a RX 580/GTX 1660.
@@rodrigofilho1996 ROFL what......so basically just replace everything with another dead platfrom? Lol
@@bluescluessuperagent not really, I don't know how much money u can/want to spend on your phenom 2 PC, but u can upgrade it over time, I would buy a used but good 970 AM3+ board. U can use your phenom in it, and probably get more OC there, after a while u can upgrade the phenom 2 to a used FX 83XX.
Not much cost and the FX 83XX will do much better then the phenom, an overclocked 83XX can hold a GTX 1660 just fine.
@@rodrigofilho1996 or you could just buy a sandy Bridge intel combo or ivy bridge or go Ryzen
There is very little point in upgrading from a Phenom 2 to only a FX. All you do is keep ddr3 ram.
Logically it makes more sense to do many other things depending on your local market.
I for instance live near a Micro Center. Ryzen 5 1600 for $80 all day.
This wasn't even a thread for keeping the Phenom. I just asked about proper overclocking for curiosity sake.
If the Phenom x series was the gaming EOL this year, what was that processor family in 2018 and 2017?
This breaks my heart! as I have the two Phenom II x6 as mentioned in your last video. However for modern titles I guess it just can't keep up! but then again i'm always 4-5 years behind the times with games anyways :D
2020 - I am still using one. Works 100% fine for me and very cool running too.
2022 still 1045t here 22c under the old arctic freezer 64 today
But Timmy Joe, you know as well as we do that for the same amount of money, from the same era you can get an x58 board and a 6 core/12 thread cpu that’ll do 900/1000 cb.
Not sure if I’m doing something wrong, but my 1045t got 873 with stock clocks on cinebench. Wonder if the overclock is hurting the performance. I can also play any of my newer games without a hitch with r9 270x 2GB Graphics card..
I remember the day I got my First Phenom processor, i was so excited to get the rig built....RIP Phenom you did well for me while you lasted.
@ 10:32, thank you for the spoiler Alert Timmy Joe...your videos always give me a chuckle.
Honestly it did a lot better than I expected... back when the processor was still fairly current in 2011 I built what I considered to be a decent rig for a client with a phenom ii x6 (or the x4 with the 2 extra cores unlocked in BIOS, which you could do), an ssd, and a 560 ti I think. He ran a construction company and wasn't a very demanding user... I'm sure he's still happy with the machine lol. With an SSD and for just internet stuff there's nothing wrong with it to this day, but of course no one is going to be using them for modern games. Still interesting to see what would happen if you tried... good video as always.
I think if you're rebuilding any "old" or "budget" build from back in the day, sandy bridge will be the king hands down for a while still.
In the games it did poorly in, its most likely a lack of optimization for the k10 architecture.
Nope, still usingn 1090t with no problems.
ill not even waste time on title like this no matter what was said.
CPU is still great.
So how's Apex Legends, Assasins Creed Origins and Far Cry 5 treating you? F1 2018, Rage 2? Hitman 2 at least has been fixed.
@@SianaGearz good thing i dont wanna play those game lol. can run most games on ultra with my 1100t and 970
@@tylerfowlston752 I really don't particularly care about most of those, but i'll want Shenmue 3, Cyberpunk 2077 and Watch_Dogs Legion. I really loved Watch_Dogs2. I think their odds of running on a 9 year old processor like this are getting super slim now. I also want EDF5, and i'm not convinced it'll run either, EDF4.2 has been fixed to run on Phenom post-release, but originally required new instructions that the processor lacks. Like every single time i consider getting a newer game, i have to be worried that it simply won't work. I have a Phenom II x6 1045t myself that is overclocked to 3.7 GHz. This system really needs something much newer, i'll probably get an R5-2600 soon.
And most games on Ultra - no, unless they're era-appropriate games from 5+ years ago - no, really not, not unless you like slideshows. And i have the 970 now too.
@@SianaGearz I am currently playing man of medan at ultra 1080 at about 70 fps and have been playing fortnite pubg and forza horizon 4 at ultra setting at 60 fps. In some games suck as gta my cpu runs at 60-70% while my gpu is a 100%. I understand it is not the newest piece of hardware out there and I am also aware I've got quite lucky on the silicone lottery but my phenom 1100t is still a very capable cpu
Hi @@tylerfowlston752.
I'm happy to see another proud owner of the phenom II, satisfied still with it as I am.
I'm using my phenon x6 1090t stock (no overclock) with 8Gb DDR2 @667 Mhz, and I can play most games at 60fps, even Ark in PVP, like in this 55 seconds example (1090p): ua-cam.com/video/-BFBpwAJz58/v-deo.html
Since I upgrade graphics card last christmas, from GPU with 2 GB to GPU with 8GB (Radeon RX 580), gaming has improved and I'm hoping to stay with Phennon II, for a while still for my video editing, gaming and overall :)
It's a shame. That Phenom was almost as good as an FX-6300. RIP, AM3+!
I got Phenom II X6 1100T, but I had upgraded that to an FX-8300 some time ago, but I never really felt that the Phenom was lagging in performance back then, I just found the FX on sale, and bought it (and it came with a game too). So I was wondering if that Phenom was still relevant in this day and age. This helped answer that, without me having to put my Phenom back into the system.
X6 1100t was a great cpu 9 years ago, Northbridge OC made it even better
bought a computer with this cpu would i have to replace the motherboard? how would i even go about upgrading this?
theres a special place in my heart with the phenom II x6 1090t as its my brothers first gaming computer build back in like 2010 when I was in like 5th grade and I got major into computers because of that. Specifically why im still personally rocking the fx 8320 still, but 2019 may or may not be its final year with me, idk yet, I've been rocking this cpu for about 7 years now. It still works really well for what I use it for and thats all I need but at the same time it is really starting to show its age when I find my self starting to really push the overclocks lately when I know I can have a lot better for fairly cheap now adays, because it has been like, literally 9 years I've spent using computers generally with this level of cpu performance and my brothers newer ryzen 1600 throws it in the trash.
Phenom II was quite a nice platform. Got one of those 1090T's in my collection, got it to something like 4 or 4.1 GHz Cinebench-stable and 4.2GHz boot "semi-stable" both on air
Have you tried overclocking the northbridge? Phenoms love northbridge overclocking. From 2ghz to 2.6-2.8ghz should bring decent improvements
he obviously just tapped up the cpu multiplier. Current gen techtubers don't even bother doing cursory research
Lol my first build was a phenom 2, it worked great at the time for what I wanted, finally upgraded to a ryzen 1600 last summer, and I was blown away once I upgraded
It's absolutely hilarious that you posted this video today, I literally just ordered a new AMD Ryzen 7 2700 x 8 core processor last night, along with the ASUS ROG Crosshair 6 extreme x370. It was to replace my AMD 6 core phenom II processor, that I bought back in 2010, but the processor die says 2009 right on top of it. I swear to god. Although however because I am using the GTX 1080 video card, I am able to play some single player games pretty well believe it or not, to a point. I tried playing something multiplayer like Fallout 76 with this processor, and you're right, it just absolutely was not happening. That's when I knew it was time for new hardware.
you can also get patches to get round the instructions and i can play forza horizon 4. and also being has the phenom can use ddr2 and ddr3 what did you use
Still got my 1100t running with a 970! Would a 2600X or a 2700X be a good upgrade?
Hi guys i have a Phenom II x4 965 why i not see this message error but only crash cod process? i click Play inside battle net and and later 30 second, i can click again play, i do not see any error messages.
Lol, so here is me litterally cutting together my own video on the X6 1055T and here you come along and really piss on my chips lol :) Still love ya tho Timmy Joe! Keep up the excellent work!
That's cause he's Timmy Joe..a guy who makes computer videos on the internet to Piss on peoples chips.....WOOOOOOO!..computer parts WOOOOO!
if you end up making your video, you can at least overclock a Phenom II correctly and tune the ram CAS and HT-NB. Half-assed overclocks do not make good videos.
I would love a link to your video when it's finished
I have a 1055 and this review was lies. Dude used an AM2 board. Lol
Why did you stop uploading @used tech hustle ?
I have two Phenoms, a Phenom II X4 945 and a Phenom II X4 960T , I don't game on them, but I'm curious to see how good could you make the performance of games be. You are using a shotty OEM RX 560 GPU only 2GB of VRAM. My XFX RX 550 has 4GB of VRAM.
i have a Phenom II 1090T. i run CPU-Z it says it has SSE3 instructions. i tried to install apex legends and it says i dont. any ideas?
FX / PII passed away a while back, but i'll roll with it. Rest In Peace old amd cpus FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
@Kennison Swah i'm sorry
@Kennison Swah I upgraded my fiancee's pc recently from a PII X4 to a 8350 and she's *rocking* games
good job man
intro: "got to be pumped on that one, right Will?..." Peter ????....
What is this or is it saying, where is it from? ANYBODY?....
I have a Phenom II X4. This year I am moving to Zen 2. Good job soldier!
i ordered an fx-6300 but it came faulty so im using my friend's phenom x4
I have a Phenom X6 1055T overclocked with 3.5ghz and graphics card GTX 1070 and 8gb 1333mhz memory. The fan is Antec Kuhler 620 water cooler. All games run at about 40-60 fps. Intending to upgrade processor memories and motherboard in the future but now I see no need.
Phenom II is AM3 platform? Or did I miss something before you said AM2+?
probably i make a dumb question but i will do it anyway , some games like call of duty warzone tells the phenom cpu doesn't meet the minimum requirements but the core 2 duo e8400 can run it , so there is a way to tell to system "hey you are running a newer cpu" while you have the phenom isntalled ? p.s sorry for my bad english i hope you can understand my argument
Hi, Bro! What about Red Dead Redemption 2 on this CPU ? RDR2 starting or not on Phenom II x6?
Can't get it to run on mine, seems the game won't run after the loadscreen due to CPU lacking instructions like SSE4.1/AVX... Sad cause most games run fine on it despite being ancient, there are other new games which have the same issue due to lack of CPU instructions. Time to get a new rig!
There are many fine older games to explore out there, no need for an upgrade
yep, so many older games that you literally will not have enough time to play them all before you are dead!!
Can i use phenom x6 1055t @4ghz with gtx 1660 super without issues in fortnite ?
Is it possible to upgrade a HP DC5850 SFF to an AMD Phenom II X6 ?????
It's funny you made this video today... xD I just spent last weekend upgrading my younger brothers phenom II 1100t, 16gb 1333mhz ram and gtx 670 to an r5 2600, 16gb 3000 mhz ram and a gtx 1070. I think he's in love... ;)
Whut games he played on this set up?
I upgraded my old Phenom II X4 965 system to a Ryzen 5 3600, AZRock B540 motherboard and PNY 1660 Super early last year before prices exploded by the summer. I thought about buying a used 1100t for cheap and building a backup PC out of spare old parts for older games and office work. But I'm surprised people on Ebay are paying $120 to $150 for a 11 year old CPU when used Ryzens cost around the same.
Might I recommend and i7 870/Xeon x3470 build to try a low cost budget PC?
I'm actually working on and i7 860 right now. Will be one of my next videos
@@TimmyJoePCTech cool, great to hear! Any particular reason for going with the 860 over the 870; price, or something else?
I'm very surprised to see that the X6 performs so badly. Have you tried overclocking the Northbridge to 3Ghz or beyond? This can sometimes help the frame rate massively. Im using an X6 4Ghz at work and got 1600mhz RAM overclocked to 1900mhz with FSB. When I still had my own X6 paired with a Fury, I had around 100fps in Witcher 3 when dropping the resolution. Wish I could test those newer games, as I'm pretty sure it can still do better!
As a mythical unicorn that still has an operable phenom 2 x4 @3.7, I can say with measurable degree of absolution, that's 100%, that no one with these are playing modern titles and prefer titles released between 2006 and 2014. All of us run windows 7 for compatibility and 80% of us have systems capable of running much newer titles as our main PC. However, these are my Phenom's last days, as it has been 9 years I've had it and has been demoted to 3rd PC running my projector, it's 3rd and final demotion will have it removed from its case and relegated to collecting dust next to my Q6600 and a gaggle of lesser single core systems from 1998 to 2004. Rest in peace Phemon 2, I'll always remember how far you brought me for $100.
I happy with my current build - bought this around 6 years ago, upgraded GPU and SSD.. runs like a workhorse - Phenom II X6 1100T, M5A78L-M/USB3, GTX 970, 12GB DDR3, 500GB SSD
and Windows 7
Whats the name of your intro song?
can you review the Athlon x4 880k and see if is better than the phenom
unless you are using a old game, its like a fx 4350 withouth l3 cache.
Hello everyone, I m sure timmy checked phenom x6 with a 990 Chipsets ie am3+ with ddr3.. However the differences are huge from previous video fr 250$ phenom x6 where u played with x6 on some ddr2 board nd than moved to 990 Chipsets. Are these differences due to moving from rx460 to radeon 7?
Also I need some advice.. I am having a phenom x6 1055t overclocked to 3.5ghz, nb nd ht to 2.4ghz and undervolted to 1.25volts paired with a msi 970 Pro carbon nd 1050ti.
Should I upgrade a cpu to fx 8350 temporarily fr a year max fr 60$ or 8320 fr 48$?
I would want to wait for zen 2 nd Intels sunny cove to compete with each other so prices will fall fr zen2 and Intel sunny cove nd by than navi will be released.
pls give ur advice
Nd should I swap my 1050ti to rx 570 if I can sell my 1050ti at 90$
Thanks fr d advice in advance.
Cheers..
can you put a FX 8350 in an Asrock 880 GM-LE? am3+ cpu in am3 mobo?
no
It may be at the end of its life cycle for gaming but hey, it’s 10 years old, or 11 if you consider when first Thubans were released. I got 671 pts in R15 here on DDR2s and with twin Vega 64s it absolutely flies in pretty much all games I tend to play.
Phenom/FX have trouble with SOTTR, Assassin's Creed Origins, Metro Exodus, Hitman 2? *MODERN QUADCORES* have trouble keeping up in these titles according to Steve from Hardware Unboxed..
yeah, fully agreed with him till he recommend older Core 4 threaded i5's.. talk about out of the fryingpan and into the fire of future pain. AMD FX for those with AM3+ motherboards [aka most phenom II users] is the only option without biting the bullet on DDR4 prices and going Zen. Intel simply has nothing to offer in value anymore, their DDR3 era cpu's run newer games like shit too and their older HEDT X79 options are too expensive for mobo+cpu still.
@@anasevi9456 i have an 8700k 5ghz all cores + titan Xp, i don't have trouble in anything cept modded arma 3 kek
Why does it say the GPU keeps going to 0% even tho it doesn’t freeze up
i got a phenom 965 build fx8120/ 3570k build ryzen 1700 build and 2600 build. cant believe how well the 3570k @4.2ghz has help up to the test of time
Been using my 1090t for everything and it still holds up great. OC'd to 3.6 paired with an rx 570 and it runs quite decently. Playing a lot of modded GTAV lately.
how does the intel equivalent from the time stack up?
In terms of missing instruction sets, the core2 series don't really stack up any better. Properly set up back in the day, you probably would have had a hard time telling them apart (Intel did have slightly better ipc).
Owner and overclocker of multiple Phenom ii and Core2 cpus. Can't say much about the first gen Core i series, don't have first hand experience. Phenom ii was basically competing against the Core2.
I recently replaced the 1090T in my backup rig with an FX8350, with the 16gb ddr3 MSI Krait 970A and a GTX 970 it was happily playing Ride 3, MotoGP 18 and Isle of Man TT racing games along with GTAV at a solid 60fps @1080p, still a very nice cpu imho, just not very good for 3D shooter and demanding 3rd person games, also very good for emulation, but it's 2019 and the cpu is now at least 10yrs old in it's original design, I think the Phenom II X6 had a bloody good lifespan, it's now in my HTPC.
Replaced my Phenom II 4X 960T with a Ryzen 5 2600 last year. It was the system bottleneck even with a budget GTX 950. I felt like this CPU was held back by its single thread performance and by its difficulty making good use of all its available cores. On the other hand, it was relatively inexpensive, it did overclock a bit, and it was fun unlocking those 5th and 6th cores.
Hmm I wonder what the performance would be at medium detail or better yet 1440p. Wouldn't the low resolution actually force the system to be CPU dependent with that GPU? I mean sure, the instruction set needed for some new games is an issue, but I wouldn't call it dead just yet. My daily driver is a x58 Xeon in a dell motherboard with an r9 390 and it's fine in most games so cpus from that era definitely hold their own. It'll serve me well until Ryzen 2 anyway lol
i want to uprade my pc and i have an amd phenom ii x4 945 socket am3 should i put an amd phenom 6 core in or an motherbouard plus ram and cpu uprade for an new amd ryzen cpu i want to play games like cod warzone fortnite minecraft call of duty s the cycle that kinda games and i dont really know what to? :)
Get the ryzen the phenom won't run war zone and can't even start up games like need for speed heat or rdr2 or grid 2019 and so on cause the phenom don't support sse 4.1 and she 4.2 witch new games use now.
@Dalle Smalhals got my phenom ii x6 1065t for 55 from China took month and half to get to me so yea i goofed up on getting it rip.
@Dalle Smalhals will cyberpunk even work on a phenom alot or really new games do not anymore ill have to go fx cause it does.
@Dalle Smalhals lol
@Dalle Smalhals yhea i know i upgrade it cuz it was way cheaper and newer i have a 1600 af and it was only 100 euro and whit an gtx 1050 ti its good i want to upgrade my gpu but thats for later
Rest in peace. One of my first actually good gaming computer CPUs was a Athlon II x3 on this platform way back in the day. Good 'ol AM2+/AM3, Windows XP and Half Life 2, the good old days. Without SSE4 and up a lot of stuff won't run on it these days though. TimmyJoe make a XP machine with this and test some older games, it will have great performance with that, I have a XP Pro 64 bit ISO if you need one, it can recognize more than 3.5 GB of RAM. I tested it in a VM with 8 GB RAM, 6 CPU cores, and 2 GB of video memory without issue. I can upload it and service pack 2 to my google drive it's only a couple GB.
I'm not sure if it was an accident or not, but I would like to point out you flip-flopped the node size for the FX and Phenom. Piledriver/Bulldozer is 32nm and Thuban is 45nm.
still rocking a phenom 2 x6 in 2020. it holds up when you set youre expectations to 45-60 fps in games that have allot of entities and cpu intensife parts of the game.
OMG i loved my 1090T, rocked it for 5 years and it didn't dissapoint for the money . still have it for a project.
You are absolutely correct about the athlon 200ge having no issues. I have one as a place holder, til the ryzen 3000 series comes out. Bein broke sucks but my 200ge, clocked at 3.825gHz with an rx580, is better than my friends fx 6300 and rx570. However skinnibench score on my 200ge is only 432...
In my daily SFF gamer in the living room I still rock a Phenom II X4 955, 16GB DDR3, GTX 1050Ti 4GB. It still plays everything like Fortnite, World Of Tanks, Overwatch etc, but unfortunately not Apex Legends because it doesn't support the Phenom CPU, which is weird because the game is based of the Titanfall 2 game engine that works fine on Phenom II.
I also have a Gigabyte 970 board, 8GB DDR3 and an AMD Athlon II X2 265 CPU and Phenom II X6 1055T laying around to test with.
I have to dissagree with you on this one. I still have a 1090t and ive not had any problems. Sure i cant run apex or farcry 5 but i can play almost anything else i want to at
same here. running with a rx580 and I have very little issue.
Same here.. the 1090T is surprisingly good, especially if you use less than high settings. I used to run a whole bunch of games on it with a really old nvidia 550GT, and later with an rx480. unless your a settings snob or play a badly optimized game like pubg no problem.
I'm also still using my phenon x6 1090t stock (no overclock) with 8Gb DDR2 @667 Mhz (on AM2+/AM3 since Bios update), and I can play most games at 60fps, even Ark in PVP, like in this 55 seconds example (1090p): ua-cam.com/video/-BFBpwAJz58/v-deo.html
Since last graphics card upgrade to Radeon RX 580, gaming improved a lot and I'm hoping to keep using it for a while still.
amd phenom 2 processors were compatible with old and new 32 bit 64 bit software and all windows systems, third version ssse3 errors shown when running new games, computer game errors, the processor is operational
I'm still using a Phenom II x4 955 on my gaming computer I built 10 years ago (im using a radeon 6770 GPU). While I appreciate the information in this video, your tests weren't done with the video settings that gamers will use if they are still rocking this old CPU. I have to play in low settings on all games (minus resolution and maybe 1 or 2 video settings set to medium or high). I have yet to try apex legends...... but seriously.....apex legends will error out if I try to run it?..... I'm going to have to try this for myself, because I just don't believe it. edit: I do have the Northbridge and CPU overclocked - can't remember if I have the hypertransport overclocked. Also, your video was well done, im glad to see someone revisit this cpu to see how it fares against newer games and cpu's.
Is that a ASUS Sabertooth 990FX R3.0 motherboard?
I still have my Phenom II 1090t setup. It was a damn good cpu for its time, especially overclocked. Paired it with a Radeon 6950 and it lasted me from 2010 - 2015. It still remains my Windows 7 era gaming pc.
Can i play Sekiro ? I play dark souls 3 with Phenom II .
im running the 1090t and an Nvidia gtx 960 and games like dayz are choppy. this doesnt seem right
That Phenom X6 is doing really well in Battlefield. Impressive for a cpu that came out in 2010.
Still remember buying the AMD phenom II 940 Deneb black edition for my first PC build.
On most of the footage shown (Fortnite, Tomb Raider, Metro) the GPU is maxed out... so something is off with the testing method.
I'm not sure if the mainboard, CPU or simply the OC had issues / instabilities, but some of the figures shown simply aren't representative of even a stock speed Phenom ii x6.
I don't recommend investing into a PC with Phenoms unless it's cheap, but it's not as bad as it's shown here. A good GPU to match them would be something like the 7950 etc.
As for the SSE missing: Those errors have been appearing in games for over 3 years and devs usually fix them... as a matter of fact the one shown from Apex Legends is kinda wrong, since the Phenom II X6 all support SSE up to 4a ... ironically the old 5400 seriex Xeons already support 4.1 and they're from like 2007.