The BRAND NEW Glasgow Subway Trains in Service.
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- Опубліковано 11 гру 2023
- On this day, I originally intended to do an onboard ride from Glasgow to Barrhead on a class 380 but, as soon as I found out about this, I immediately beelined for the Subway and was able to get a full run on their new rolling stock.
These new trains are set to replace the ones that have operated on the Glasgow Subway since 1980. They have all the modern features that the outgoing trains didn't, such as full air-conditioning and walkthrough carriage gangways. Built by Stadler of Switzerland, first deliveries of these new trains commenced in May 2019 with overnight testing beginning in December 2021.
On December 11, 2023, two of the 17 sets built were quietly introduced into service on the Outer Circle with more of the sets to be rolled out throughout next year.
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I didnt think it was possible to smell a video but as a Glaswegian I instantly got the subway smell as soon as you showed the platform. I look forward to a ride on the new trains.
I'm curious, what does it smell like?
So iconic
@@Morning404 impossible to describe but you would never forget the smell if you had experienced it.
@@AstonishingGlasgow They tried to find out already in 1977 ;-)
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@@AstonishingGlasgowSmelled it first when I was a young baby. It's just so nostalgic
The new trains look great and the walk through cars are a good idea , perhaps they should have an announcement that says "please give up your seat for a tall person to sit down " ha ha.
Honestly, it's a medical thing at this point! I'm 5' 10" in shoes and that makes me feel like stooping over automatically... And I love this train! I just forget how small people used to be back when the system was opened... With proper nutrition and growth hormone exposure in our dairy products? Boom! We're now giants amongst our own people! Go ride the Coney Island Cyclone for the same eerie effect. What now only fits one normal adult male and is now essentially a metal lap bar was once a shoulder-height restraint for 2 people... Now apply that logic to the ever shrinking airline seat and wonder few people fit comfortably in economy class...
I would say "thank you" to the kind elderly lady offering me a seat. But you can't stand up properly in a business jet or a Rolls Royce either.
The reason for the lack of headroom is that the diameter of the tunnels is quite small meaning trains have to be smaller to fit.
very much. but it looks cool
I live in Telford and love trains but now I have an excuse to drive up to Glasgow to ride the subway. Those trains look gorgeous and futuristic, and match some of the stations aesthetically.
Thanks for the upload sir! 😁
The Glasgow subway is unique being the only one of its kind. It is much better now that it has been updated. It had got very run down and outdated and was threatened with closure, but I am sure that its future is assured. Although the headroom is limited, the smaller scale reduced the cost of construction, so in that way it is cool. Thanks for uploading.
Yes I agree the subway is unique in being unique. Any tautology is clearly intentional.
The City and South London Railway (now part of the Northern Line) was originally narrow gauge, like the Glasgow Subway remained. London enlarged the tunnels in the 1920s I think. Jago Hazzard has covered the topic. I’ve followed the Glasgow Subway present and history closely for the 12 years Glasgow has been home, and other than entertaining consideration of closure as an option in part of the report to layout future options for the subway, don’t believe there has ever been an ounce of serious consideration of closure in recent times. So unless you’ve got a source on otherwise, or are referring back to 70s pre-modernisation, politely will say think that’s rubbish. It’s a great and unique system, but only so far in what it is; and it could be so much more if the ambition and investment were put into public transit in Glasgow.
@@matthewsmatters A previous UA-cam video mentioned the possibility of closure before the initial modernization. So far plans to extend the system have come to nothing.
It was only threatened with closure by Margaret Thatcher who didn't want to pay Westminsters share of the upgrade when she came to power in 1979.
I have wanted to go ride on Glasgow’s tiny pint sized metro, and I gotta say the new trains look great! I struggle for headroom on the deep level tube stock as it is, so I’m guessing these even smaller trains are an even tighter fit lol
I wonder if the door times can or will be adjusted. I think the real quirk is having the same old dusty cassette tape voice doing the announcement 😅
The Glasgow Subway: the only full-scale toy train!
Heard there used to be a toy monorail you could pay to ride somewhere in Germany, but I also heard that's gone after a real bad accident.
unless your talking about the maglev, but the inverted monorails and the upside down suspension railways in dusseldorf airport and dortmund and wuppertal respectively still exist
you might mean the very high speed transrapid maglev which (if I recall correctly) hit a works vehicle that should not have been there!. In addition to the Wuppertal, Dortmund and Dusseldorf airport systems which someone else has already mentioned the hanging funicular railway in Dresden managed to survive the communist era and is now fully open again. I've been on all of these!
I must say the new stock looks very nice. Nicer than than the new Piccadilly stock .
i think with piccadilly they're trying too hard to match the old shape. also, Siemens trains are usually uncomfortable to ride, not sure why they opted for them
@@3whatscookin uncomfortable how? i've never tried them that's why i ask. do they shake to much?
@@krisstopher8259 Nah just from my experience with the Thameslink trains, the seats are uncomfortable to sit on and unless you sit in the priority areas there's no leg room
I remember from my childhood the proper Subway trains in Glasgow, which were wonderful, wooden, and would rattle from side to side - literally the walls moving - but I think the smell is still exactly the same
Was waiting for the new trains to enter service, and here we finally are! I also heard a report that it is possible for these new trains to be automated.
They're also compatible with PEDs from what I've heard.
@2:30 they cant increase the height of the inside of the train due to the TINY MICROSCOPICALLY & HALARIOUSLY SMALL TRACK GAUGE that the Glasgow's subway hilariously uses, hence the low head room. the trains look absolutely incredible: & for glasgow: The Future, is here.
I think you mean loading gauge?
Many underground and commuter railway lines use even smaller (meter) gauge tracks & operate way larger rolling stock. It's got more to do with the tunnel size.
yes, but also: there narrow guage, hence smaller trains, hence tiny tunnels: so technically I mean both: @@mdhazeldine but yah your right.
A good example of track gauge vs loading gauge is on the London Underground, comparing sub-surface trains and deep-level trains which run on the same track gauge but greatly differ in size
The track gauge is standard gauge, but the Glasgow tunnels are indeed tiny in diameter. The carriages literally cannot be bigger than they now are, unless somebody was to widen the tunnels
Interesting new underground service for the Glasgow Underground rolling stock, every interesting video indeed. Excellent. Well, it shall be interesting to see how well this service runs. Thanks for sharing this. Take care.
From Foxy.
Great share, thanks :)
New trains look good, nice report
haha the glasgow metro is so cute. tiny trains, tiny platforms, tiny tunnels. I love it
Been wanting a reason to revisit Glasgow. Looks like I will be at some point in the new year now
I've been on these trains. They look so futuristic
Good informative video, thanks for doing that
It certainly was very informative and most interesting in various ways and another. Take care.
From Foxy.
Brilliant video
Was gonna ride and also film one today, got there about 13:55 at buchanan st got a train to st enoch waited ages no new trains waited until i saw the same train i got there on and decided to head to glasgow central to get a barrhead train. Gonna go back tomorrow to see if i can find one of the 2024 trains
Nice to see the new Glasgow Subway trains now operating on the Subway and to replace the existing trains. Looks so futuristic as it’s been built by Stadler.
Perhaps Stadler should build new London Underground tube trains for the Bakerloo Line to replace the 1972 Stock.
The alarm and delay on the doors opening is pretty odd - I hope they change that, as it’s just a bit of an annoyance. Other than that they look great, and as good as ever going to be feasible given the loading gauge.
That's how all modern trains are unfortunately, check out the other Stadler trains like the 777
Thank you
Great video editing.
Will be interesting to see any works towards automation/screen doors, possibly the first fully automated service in the UK!
The light bars on the side of the doors remind me of the ones on the azur trains here in Montreal (although our doors sometimes open before the train comes to a stop)
I am going on them this weekend very excited!
I read they are only Monday to Friday at the moment Best to check first
I remember seeing pictures of a newly discovered subterranean microscopic creature and
With that black front end and white body, they look exactly like one!
I was born and brought up in London and I loved our tube, it was the only way to travel around London. One day I will get to Glasgow because I would love to go on your Underground railway.
Finally went on these new trains for the first time. Really liking them (will miss the old trains though)
New Glasgow, underground train I can’t wait to go for a get on 1 I can’t believe it has been more than 40 years since Glasgow has had a new underground train that just shows you all the ones I’ve been and great service
thanks mr um
The sample of the 2024 rolling stock for use to replace the aging 50 years old 1973 rolling stock in Piccadilly Line and probably their 1972 rolling stock in Bakerloo line.
Thanks David - brilliant video
- you're SO CLOSE to 1000 subs!!! (I'm 991)
Been down the subway several times , still only seen one new train.. going the opposite way 😂
Nice place.Hope to visit your place someday
I’m 6ft 4 and this looks scary. The NYC subway is cozy for tall ppl
I live in Glasgow I’ll probably get a new ride on it soon!
Pretty nice
Coming out the tunnel, it reminds me of the Space 1999 Moonbase Alpha Travel Tubes. 🙂
NFC tickets ! WOW ! Awesome. ! Much Love. !
All those friendly folk of Glasgow wanting to be a part of the video 😊
I never realised there were different coloured platform stripes depending on the direction of travel. That's very cool. Almost like it's two separate lines that happen to 100% share tracks and yet never encounter each other.
It's kind of crazy to me with such narrow platforms that there are no safeguards/doors on the edges of the platform.
Well they cant because they have old rolling stock still. I don't know if the new trains have PED technology either
@@Farleigh1050 They plan on installing them once the old fleet is gone
@@Wasserfeld. yeah that makes sense
For donkeys yrs Glaswegians have negotiated the subway without falling on the line. Why do they need gates now?
i love how everyone is taking pictures
Thank-you Nicola sturgeon
Really! Old trains date to mid 1970s and now 50 years old. SNP in power for the last 16 years and Glasgow has just got them now and you think we should thank the former first minister, who may be soon charged with fraud along with her husband for misuse of funds. Yep good call
I don't remember having much headroom room in the current subway trains either (I'm 6ft 2)
Nice to hear the native Glaswegian bird squealing and the end
The Clockwork Orange 🧡 Old meets new rolling stock ,Love Glasgow ❤
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Will still be known as the Clockwork Orange
I love the old trains but i'm sad I've missed the first run of these
I really think they should introduce contactless debit card payments at the barrier and have Platform Screen Doors (PSDs) for added safety due to the narrowness of the platforms.
Glade I'm not he only one, I was in Glasgow the same day not knowing anything about it, and I was on the subway as well without knowing, bit surprised at that.
It’s about damn time
Finally!! 🎉
Good to see that someone is thinking realistically, summers in the UK and Scotland are going to get gradually hotter unfortunately but the inclusion of fully functional Air conditioning system is a very welcome feature on board the new Subway trains.
The commentary is incorrect. There is no aircon.
And there will be no need for it either. The facts are that the earth temperature has actually been shown to have lowered in recent years which is bad news for the climate change people. It has also been proven by 500 meteorologists that therr is NO global warming. It is a scam.
@@peterelvery Yeah i was also wondering how ac could fit in such a small train. There is not much room because the train itself is very small. Maybe ac would be doable, but then you would loose some interior space.
I did not know that Glasgow had a subway lol
It's one of the oldest railways in the world Opened in 1896 as cable hauled like San Francisco street cars the old wooden cars were converted to electric and ran until 1977 when the new now old trains replaced them. The old cars were lifted out by crane every night for servicing, there were no points on the system and the sheds on the surface.
Great Video David. They 100% did keep this quiet but they really do look good.
These subway trains are incredibly cute. I mean now that we've got the new subway trains its about time they expand the system or make the entirety of the stations accessible to wheelchair users.
The headroom in these carriages would seem enormous by comparison with the disused goods tunnel trains in London - virtually a miniature underground system ! 🤭
This system reminds me of the Sydney Metro , but with one MAJOR difference ; a section of the Sydney Metro tunnel was built to accommodate double decker trains for the first decade of its existence. After watching the video a second time , I also noticed that the Glasgow train carriages still have partial divisions between them , whereas in Sydney , the couplings are completely unobstructed . As the Metro is approaching a station , there is an automated announcement , for example " We will be stopping at Castle Hill " , which is more informative than a tone . Lastly , on the subject of annoying sounds , I recently traveled on an interurban train from Sydney to Lithgow ( Blue Mountains ) , and before EVERY stop ,as part of the station announcement was "Please mind the gap between the train and the platform " , by the guard ( live not automated ) . It is NOT necessary to say this for every station and common sense should dictate that not all stations have serious platform gaps , the worst I noticed was about 12 inches , but most were less than 4 inches . Constant repetition of the same message becomes very irritating during the course of a two and a half hour trip each way , and should be reserved for situations where it is actually needed , because passengers will tend to ignore them and the next time I intend to use such a service , I will take ear plugs ! I don't blame the train guard for this , but railway policy . Those passengers who listen to music through earphones have the right idea ! 👍
Actually, it's easier and more proficient to implement driverless operation on the Glasgow Subway than on the London Underground due to several reasons:
- The Glasgow Subway is a very small network of only 15 stations and its platform layouts are mostly straight unlike the London Underground, so platform doors can be installed for such operations. Not to mention, it's signalling sysyem is pretty simple compared to most huge rail networks.
- While the London Underground may have already introduced new Picadilly line trains that have the potential to be driverless, driverless operations are extremely unlikely due to being a huge network, a complex signalling system, the curved layout of numerous platforms makes it challenging to install platform doors, and various others. Even if driverless operation can be implemented, the cabs needed to remain with the driver doing other tasks inside for safety purposes (GoA3).
Wow, nice... but it take a long time... I was visitor on the innotrans 2018, where the first train-set was presented....
Was recommended this video. Gonna have a butchers through your older content
Shame they weren't operating when I tried to ride them.
awesome videos man!
loving this content! 🔥
as a person interested in development, transport, metros, etc especially ours, scottish
thanks so much, and;
loving your modernist,
helvetica user image!
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p.s;
i think, given the retisance (sp?) of GCC to tunneling, i think the best way to expand the subway is to have "El's" like some areas of american cities (which glasgow very much feels like),
Elevate subway lines follwing the glasgow grid road system by riding along above them to the areas of interest, "East End", "Souuthside", then go back underground for all of those but yeah by making much of the core network elevated it makes it *muuch* easier,
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loved and subbed ;)
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Is that a new moquette ? Love the reference to Geoff.
I saw two new trains last Monday, but I didn't see them on Tuesday or Wednesday.
I'm glad now that I was in Glasgow in November. It was nice to have a last ride on the old trains as I couldn't even remember them from my last visit (20+ years ago). These look OK but a bit generic - as far as a quirkily sized mini-metro can BE generic of course.
squeezed London overground in a tube )))
exactly what I thought to see. Is it much quieter from inside now, right? Looks like it runs quieter from outside too. And starts faster
Things i hate about the new rolling stock is there is no announcement if there is it sounds like conductor making it. Like we need clear announcement bruh.
The new trains are indergoing driver facilitation on the Tyne & Wear Metro for our new Alstrom trains
Class 555's are Stadler
@@emjackson2289 are they really, in that case I was misinformed in a previous video
now all we're waiting for is the new picadilly line ;-)
Very nice new trains. How many are these new trains going to be in service and to replace the existing ones that are getting old and are to be scrapped.
When they go driverless someone has to do a cab view ride
Hi David - I’m Irish myself, living in Manchester 21 years and have been fascinated by Glasgow’s metro system for a long time - from what little I know about this line, it resembles the Circle Line Tube in London and I’d love to see the DART Underground for Dublin taking shape - one thing that I do like about these trains is that there is enough room to carry a heavy suitcase on board (level boarding?) and I don’t know how similar they are to Edinburgh’s trams for disabled access to the island platforms - aside from the Metrolink Trams here in Manchester and the current London Tube Trains, it compares well to the DART Trains and the LUAS Trams in Dublin - does the Glasgow Metro get very busy at peak hours? And what major bus/tram/rail connections is it close to? Does it have good interchange points within Glasgow City Centre?
Buchanan Street and St Enoch subway stations are the best connected as they are a few steps away from Glasgow Queen Street, Glasgow Central, all the bus routes that run through the area, plus Buchanan Bus Station. Outside of the city centre, Partick is its own wee hub in the west end, with a subway station below ground, a bus hub at street level, and an elevated railway station.
The subway does get busy at peak times. Not London busy, but busy enough as it connects the busy city centre with the busy west end. It also gets crowded on game days at Ibrox. Unfortunately as of yet only two subway stations are wheelchair accessible. But keep in mind, the subway is a very small system. Buses, cars and trains are the main way to get around Glasgow, in fact the city has the second largest urban rail network in Britain after London, albeit with a lot of room for improvement.
It feels as good as the Piccadilly line new train
Now that's a Tube
A good design. It's pretty much equivalent to the new stockholm subway trains. Both look futuristic, but the glasgow tunnels are older and pipe shaped so the trains have to be round (i like it tho)
lovely trains but that alarm before the doors open is bloody horrible
Does anyone know how the Glasgow Subway trains speed an acceleration compares to say a deep level Tube (London Underground) such as the Jubilee line?
I forget always that you have traffic on the left. Also the trains
OMG I thought it was going to be realised on 2025
Got to St Enoch at about 18.45 yesterday, no new trains in the 4 or so I waited on :( (if they did leave service, I feel bad for the couple at Bridge St c. 7pm who had cameras at the ready...)
So funny, I was 10 mins after you waiting at st Enoch too 😂
Those are sexy trains.
They look pretty nice. Shame they aren't tardises. haha. Well done for beating Mr Marshall to it! I guess it helps to be local :)
It’s a local train for local people.
Mr Marshall, 5 years ago ua-cam.com/video/AJOMi4J8PoI/v-deo.htmlsi=BcVX8SO33ZbwLfD8
Look great but wish they were still predominately orange. I remember when the previous ones were at the design stage and loved them.
These new trains look fantastic, but the whole system STILL closes at 6pm on a Sunday! Come on, SPT!
They want you to go home and watch netflix and go to bed
Glasgow needs new Subway lines, though built to more heavy rail dimensions
Regarding the headroom, how does it compare with the older trains? Even though limited by the tunnel diameter (as previous correspondents have pointed out), the internal construction can affect headroom if the mouldings protrude.
It is over 50 years since I last rode on the Subway. I think that I still prefer the design of the older trains, but I am not a Glaswegian so my personal views do not really count.
Anyway, I enjoyed your video. Merry Christmas.🎄🎄🎄🎄
I do think the older trains are a bit better. The main issue that limits the space isn’t the size but rather the shape of the new trains. The new trains are more circular and tube-shaped whereas the older ones are heptagonal with the roof curving in at a slightly higher point on the train, which gives a bit more room. Probably could’ve explained it a bit better in the video itself.
Anyways, I’m glad you enjoyed anyways and you have a Merry Christmas too.
Finally
The front lights of these trains look like katana blades
They're definitely smaller height wise, I'm 6'1 and I can touch the ceiling on my tippy toes.
Anyone over 6'4 are going to really struggle with these new trains.
Excellent subway but there is more trains will extend coming soon i seen this before
Did you compare the headroom to the old trains? Is there less headroom on the new ones?
I wonder if there is any other subway system that only goes around in a circle.
They usually start with lines going between the center and areas where many people live. When the city grows that overloads the central station, so they build circles with interchanges. If the city is in a flat and boring landscape, the metro network will look like a spider web. I don't know why they started with a circle and then stopped here. Shenanigans were definitely involved.
2:27 - They must think people in Glasgow are awful wee!
These trains remind of the central line trains, the central line trains need something like this