Fantastic rifles for their age. I have a Turkish contract 98/22 and it has a decent bore I cleaned up using Sweet's 7.62. It still can ring a 4X4 steel gong out to 400 yards with battle sights. 🤗🤗🤗❤❤❤
I've recently pulled my old 98/22 out of the safe. It was a Turkish contract rifle. Since it is officially 100 years old now, I gave it a good clean, and I'm taking it back to the range. I found some nice surplus 8mm Portuguese ammo from the early 70's, and will also take some softer off the shelf target loads for function check before using the war rounds. I don't remember how well it grouped when I bought it a long time ago, so probably about as expected. Not exceptional, but not bad. That was a 100 yard range, so I had to hold really low. Next week, I'll be visiting a 300 yard range which is how these were set up for open sights. The bore looks good, it has not been crowned. If this gun ever saw any action it would have been when the Turks were pushing the Armenians around. Don't think they played much of a role in WW2. Its 100% numbers matching, and though the wood is kinda rough, the action is smooth. Never re-arsenaled. Though I'm pleased that these are climbing in value, it is irrelevant. I'm not selling. 🤓
For me i just love the front sight! It helps me pick up the t argets better. Even though i have only shouldered the weapon and not been able to use it yet? :>/
I got 2 Vz24s, I bought em because of the lion crest on the receiver. I find most of em with out the crests (why on earth this is so common on milsurps I'll never understand! I know there's reasons but I just don't agree with em hahaha) but I looked up there serial numbers, one was made in 1936 and the other was made in 1937. E(with the tiny lion crest) and then the serial number. Now I've read the Estonian rifles were chambered in .303 cal. But mine are both 8mm. I read awhile ago that the lion crest indicated that the rifles were for Czech use and not export. That exported guns would sport the crest of the nation it went to or it would simply read "Made in Czech, Bruno" (I paraphrased that heavily, I don't read Czech) now weather that's the case or not they are both in pretty good condition. Still accurate and not shot out or counter bored.
@@psp1921tsmg I’ve heard the pre 64 model 70 was a Mauser type with a claw extractor. Was reading that the 54 was rereleased as the 70 and I’m thinking I get the best of both world by having a commercial clone of a Mauser. Thanks for getting back so soon, you see knowledgeable about the Mauser. I have a Mosin and a Berthier and I hate the fact that in CA ammo is impossible to fine and but unless I pay $2 plus per round.
I remember five six years ago these things were going for $350 I've been wanting to get one for a while just looking at some of the prices nowadays it's crazy
Mine was built in 1926 and my grandfather took it off a Axis soulder ,but he fought threw North Africa into and threw Italy/France and into Germany. Of course i dont know where he took it? But mine is marked with Slavix writting on top and the markings on the side are E* 26 the star represents a small liones head. The serial number under that is 6336 K1 and on the side of the receiver is just has VZ24 but dosnt say Czech on it as well? No import mark or caliber stamp? The bore in it is like glass. But its all original and all matching numbers. Receiver/bolt/barrel. My grandfather left it to me and i just havnt been able to figure out what caliber it is? It could have been taken in North Africa which means it could be something other then 8mm? And it was chambered in several calibers Pre-WWII and mine was built about 12yrs before WWII started . It looks as though 8mm may be a bit too tight and i just cant find any gunsmith or shop near me willing ot able ot measure/guage it for me to tell me the cailiber so i have done a lot of work to the gun and its in great shape. So far its been a wall hanger or paper weight! :>/ What resource is there for me to find the info i need to figure out its caliber?
Hay im back....hehe Yeah im still on my quest to find out what my VZ24 is chambered in ? I have since given my gun to a gunsmith to break it down and clean it up. Its in great shape and has a good portion of the bluing still on it. The top of the reciver is a bit worn but the rest in primo shape. Im still trying to figure out what it the caliber? There were quite a few different variants chambered differently as the Czech made and German made were sold to a lot of Asian and Middle Eastern and even South American countries. All of which had different ammunition avaivlible to them. So in some cases they were built for forign use with different ammo. I only have a box of 7.9mm METAK to compare to this VZ's chamber. It looks a bit tight in the chamber and ,the end of its barrel? Now i realize that the bullet deforms a bit after its fired as it travels down the barrel but I just cant bring my self to buy a box of 8mm Mauser and load it and fire it ,with out being 100% sure what the rifle was produced to use? Since it was built in 1926 it could have been produced to export which means it could have used a different caliber from 8mm? My grandfather took it from a german solder either in North Africa or Italy. So its another reason it could likely be a different chambering? lolIf it was produced for Italy and never left Europe then it may be 8mm but since i cant be sure by sight i cant try it?lol I dont want to blow it up but be able ot go to my uncle and others in the family and say we can shoot it now! so it would benefit my entire family and bring joy to us all? I have an uncle ,his son and daughter as well as their children ,and mine which would all love to give it a try! Its always been a family conversation of how we all would love to get it to the range! hehe If i can geterdone i would be the star for a day! lol It would mean something to all of us to shoot the firearm the 1st time in peace ,since it was last fired by a german solder in conflict! It needs to happen! Hope you can help me figure it out?
Hey dosnt .....anyone answer questions or offer suggestions here? Been on a never ending search for the chambering of my VZ24?! I understand a great deal of them were chambered in 8mm Mauser. Also ,even though my grandfather captured it from a German solder , It wad captured in one of two places......North Africa ,some where or in Italy. I understand from research that there were a number of contracts, (Pre-WWII) that went to the middle east/northern Africa, as well as Spain and as far as Asia and South America. Its not marked as a general German Military as it was built in 1926 and is still all matching numbers with great rifling ,with the only thing that dosnt match is the wood ,Military stock that was also produced suring the mid 1920's. I found with the different contracts that Czechlo, was pruding and in up to 44 different chamberings. I believe my grandfather said the solder was actually a conscript ,rather then regular army? My gramps said the " Nazi looked kind of Med or Mid eastern but ,still had the, blue eye's." In any case it could have been taken from an area that had a chambering, other then 8mm Mauser? I just wish there was an easy way to find what its chambering is? I dont have the money top pay someone else to do it and i surely dont have the skills needed to do it my self? I have been left the rifle by my grandfather along with the picture he has of the German solder handing it over to him! For just over 10yrs now i have ,only been able to clean it and admire it! :>/ I would really love to shoot it at least a few mags worth before stowing it away againfor special occassion's....yano! LOL So please someone ,anyone HELP? My rifle was built in 1926 and has a 4 digit number with a K1 with a just above that theres a capital "E" with a tiny lions head and the year of production 26 it has a stamp of Ceskoslovenska-ZBROJOVKA- =BRNO= In three lines on the top of the reciever. This makes me feel like it was produced for another country far away as the top stamp dosnt carry the lions head stamp? Just the tiny one ,barely viewable just above the seial or production number .....Just wish there was some nifty measuring device i could get to stick in the chamber and it tells me what it shoots? lol wishes and dreams dashed! :>/
E prefix usually mean Estonia. If that’s true then it’s 8mm. Take it to a gun shop and see if they will try an 8mm round in the chamber 8mm will not chamber in 7mm or 7.65
Dude. I see you on every Mauser video asking this same question. JUST GET THE BARREL SLUGGED! It will tell you immediately the bullet diameter. You could have figured it out in half the time you spent writing these comments.
Change your name to just Gun Dad so you’re not unda the microscope and 2A potential subscribers won’t be afraid to follow you. Shit got hot in the community after some guy with some channel got in trouble with alphabet agency for selling stuff that’s in your username. So your username hurts your channel and the money you complain about wanting to get from UA-cam at the beginning of this video. Back on topic: You just put me onto these not 98k’s. My first and favorite rifle is still my VZ24 Romanian Contract that is a non match Soviet captured hodgepodge that’s thankfully not been counterbored. Had it for 15 years now and just got my first Whitetail with it at 90 yards with irons. Boiler room. Instant drop. 90’s Remington round nose soft point green box. Forgot the grain weight.
Not changing the name. I started the channel mostly on mg’s and if people are afraid to follow me that’s ok. As I’m not in this for the money. Shame people are afraid to follow a channel because machine gun is in the name. Do you think machine gun Kelly has that problem. Also I’m not good at kissing up to UA-cam. At best it’s a necessary evil to get the information out to the gun community. And finally. Although UA-cam dislikes/hates my content, I am very careful to be law compliant and have done a few videos telling people to not do questionable acts that could get themselves in trouble
Fantastic rifles for their age. I have a Turkish contract 98/22 and it has a decent bore I cleaned up using Sweet's 7.62. It still can ring a 4X4 steel gong out to 400 yards with battle sights. 🤗🤗🤗❤❤❤
I've recently pulled my old 98/22 out of the safe. It was a Turkish contract rifle. Since it is officially 100 years old now, I gave it a good clean, and I'm taking it back to the range. I found some nice surplus 8mm Portuguese ammo from the early 70's, and will also take some softer off the shelf target loads for function check before using the war rounds. I don't remember how well it grouped when I bought it a long time ago, so probably about as expected. Not exceptional, but not bad. That was a 100 yard range, so I had to hold really low. Next week, I'll be visiting a 300 yard range which is how these were set up for open sights.
The bore looks good, it has not been crowned. If this gun ever saw any action it would have been when the Turks were pushing the Armenians around. Don't think they played much of a role in WW2. Its 100% numbers matching, and though the wood is kinda rough, the action is smooth. Never re-arsenaled.
Though I'm pleased that these are climbing in value, it is irrelevant. I'm not selling. 🤓
Great video and great info. I love those old guns. Keep the videos coming.
Recently layawayed one with the crest rubbed off , receiver and the bolt matching however the floorplate is marked byf came with a bayonet also
For me i just love the front sight! It helps me pick up the t argets better. Even though i have only shouldered the weapon and not been able to use it yet? :>/
I got 2 Vz24s, I bought em because of the lion crest on the receiver. I find most of em with out the crests (why on earth this is so common on milsurps I'll never understand! I know there's reasons but I just don't agree with em hahaha) but I looked up there serial numbers, one was made in 1936 and the other was made in 1937. E(with the tiny lion crest) and then the serial number. Now I've read the Estonian rifles were chambered in .303 cal. But mine are both 8mm. I read awhile ago that the lion crest indicated that the rifles were for Czech use and not export. That exported guns would sport the crest of the nation it went to or it would simply read "Made in Czech, Bruno" (I paraphrased that heavily, I don't read Czech) now weather that's the case or not they are both in pretty good condition. Still accurate and not shot out or counter bored.
Estonia rifles have an e prefix I think. I have one. No crest dated 1939. It is 8mm
Export guns would not have the crest.
Great video, I have a question.
Is the Winchester 54 a clone of the K98 for non military hunting market?
Looks like a licensed version of the 98. Ive never seen one in person.
@@psp1921tsmg I’ve heard the pre 64 model 70 was a Mauser type with a claw extractor. Was reading that the 54 was rereleased as the 70 and I’m thinking I get the best of both world by having a commercial clone of a Mauser.
Thanks for getting back so soon, you see knowledgeable about the Mauser.
I have a Mosin and a Berthier and I hate the fact that in CA ammo is impossible to fine and but unless I pay $2 plus per round.
@@apoinla best thing to do for your gun hobby is leave California
I remember five six years ago these things were going for $350 I've been wanting to get one for a while just looking at some of the prices nowadays it's crazy
I have a Czech Mauser that has a large and very intricate lion stamped into the area directly above the chamber. I found some info on it but not much
Lion means Czech military I believe
@@psp1921tsmg
Thanks for the quick reply and information
Mine was built in 1926 and my grandfather took it off a Axis soulder ,but he fought threw North Africa into and threw Italy/France and into Germany. Of course i dont know where he took it? But mine is marked with Slavix writting on top and the markings on the side are E* 26 the star represents a small liones head. The serial number under that is 6336 K1 and on the side of the receiver is just has VZ24 but dosnt say Czech on it as well? No import mark or caliber stamp? The bore in it is like glass. But its all original and all matching numbers. Receiver/bolt/barrel. My grandfather left it to me and i just havnt been able to figure out what caliber it is? It could have been taken in North Africa which means it could be something other then 8mm? And it was chambered in several calibers Pre-WWII and mine was built about 12yrs before WWII started . It looks as though 8mm may be a bit too tight and i just cant find any gunsmith or shop near me willing ot able ot measure/guage it for me to tell me the cailiber so i have done a lot of work to the gun and its in great shape. So far its been a wall hanger or paper weight! :>/ What resource is there for me to find the info i need to figure out its caliber?
E prefer I think is Estonia contract. There are several decent articles on vz-24s on the web
Hay im back....hehe Yeah im still on my quest to find out what my VZ24 is chambered in ? I have since given my gun to a gunsmith to break it down and clean it up. Its in great shape and has a good portion of the bluing still on it. The top of the reciver is a bit worn but the rest in primo shape. Im still trying to figure out what it the caliber? There were quite a few different variants chambered differently as the Czech made and German made were sold to a lot of Asian and Middle Eastern and even South American countries. All of which had different ammunition avaivlible to them. So in some cases they were built for forign use with different ammo. I only have a box of 7.9mm METAK to compare to this VZ's chamber. It looks a bit tight in the chamber and ,the end of its barrel? Now i realize that the bullet deforms a bit after its fired as it travels down the barrel but I just cant bring my self to buy a box of 8mm Mauser and load it and fire it ,with out being 100% sure what the rifle was produced to use? Since it was built in 1926 it could have been produced to export which means it could have used a different caliber from 8mm? My grandfather took it from a german solder either in North Africa or Italy. So its another reason it could likely be a different chambering? lolIf it was produced for Italy and never left Europe then it may be 8mm but since i cant be sure by sight i cant try it?lol I dont want to blow it up but be able ot go to my uncle and others in the family and say we can shoot it now! so it would benefit my entire family and bring joy to us all? I have an uncle ,his son and daughter as well as their children ,and mine which would all love to give it a try! Its always been a family conversation of how we all would love to get it to the range! hehe If i can geterdone i would be the star for a day! lol It would mean something to all of us to shoot the firearm the 1st time in peace ,since it was last fired by a german solder in conflict! It needs to happen! Hope you can help me figure it out?
I'm confused....can you shoot rimmed ammo? I heard JS not JRS?
These guns will shoot standard 8mm otherwise called 7.92 rimless
Vz 24 gets me hard. Its the front sight. Sad to see how many of these old rifles got sporterized.
I just got a Mauser from my father in law. Is their anyway to reach you and you help me figure out what kind it is?
If a German k98 is out of the question budget wise? Is this the next best thing?
A sanitized yugo k-98 or a vz-24
Russian love counterbore.... True.
Hey dosnt .....anyone answer questions or offer suggestions here? Been on a never ending search for the chambering of my VZ24?! I understand a great deal of them were chambered in 8mm Mauser. Also ,even though my grandfather captured it from a German solder , It wad captured in one of two places......North Africa ,some where or in Italy. I understand from research that there were a number of contracts, (Pre-WWII) that went to the middle east/northern Africa, as well as Spain and as far as Asia and South America. Its not marked as a general German Military as it was built in 1926 and is still all matching numbers with great rifling ,with the only thing that dosnt match is the wood ,Military stock that was also produced suring the mid 1920's. I found with the different contracts that Czechlo, was pruding and in up to 44 different chamberings. I believe my grandfather said the solder was actually a conscript ,rather then regular army? My gramps said the " Nazi looked kind of Med or Mid eastern but ,still had the, blue eye's." In any case it could have been taken from an area that had a chambering, other then 8mm Mauser? I just wish there was an easy way to find what its chambering is? I dont have the money top pay someone else to do it and i surely dont have the skills needed to do it my self? I have been left the rifle by my grandfather along with the picture he has of the German solder handing it over to him! For just over 10yrs now i have ,only been able to clean it and admire it! :>/ I would really love to shoot it at least a few mags worth before stowing it away againfor special occassion's....yano! LOL So please someone ,anyone HELP? My rifle was built in 1926 and has a 4 digit number with a K1 with a just above that theres a capital "E" with a tiny lions head and the year of production 26 it has a stamp of Ceskoslovenska-ZBROJOVKA- =BRNO= In three lines on the top of the reciever. This makes me feel like it was produced for another country far away as the top stamp dosnt carry the lions head stamp? Just the tiny one ,barely viewable just above the seial or production number .....Just wish there was some nifty measuring device i could get to stick in the chamber and it tells me what it shoots? lol wishes and dreams dashed! :>/
E prefix usually mean Estonia. If that’s true then it’s 8mm. Take it to a gun shop and see if they will try an 8mm round in the chamber 8mm will not chamber in 7mm or 7.65
Dude. I see you on every Mauser video asking this same question. JUST GET THE BARREL SLUGGED! It will tell you immediately the bullet diameter. You could have figured it out in half the time you spent writing these comments.
I have a $300 milsurp rule and you would be surprised what you can snag if you look hard enough
Change your name to just Gun Dad so you’re not unda the microscope and 2A potential subscribers won’t be afraid to follow you. Shit got hot in the community after some guy with some channel got in trouble with alphabet agency for selling stuff that’s in your username. So your username hurts your channel and the money you complain about wanting to get from UA-cam at the beginning of this video.
Back on topic: You just put me onto these not 98k’s. My first and favorite rifle is still my VZ24 Romanian Contract that is a non match Soviet captured hodgepodge that’s thankfully not been counterbored. Had it for 15 years now and just got my first Whitetail with it at 90 yards with irons. Boiler room. Instant drop. 90’s Remington round nose soft point green box. Forgot the grain weight.
Not changing the name. I started the channel mostly on mg’s and if people are afraid to follow me that’s ok. As I’m not in this for the money.
Shame people are afraid to follow a channel because machine gun is in the name. Do you think machine gun Kelly has that problem.
Also I’m not good at kissing up to UA-cam. At best it’s a necessary evil to get the information out to the gun community.
And finally. Although UA-cam dislikes/hates my content, I am very careful to be law compliant and have done a few videos telling people to not do questionable acts that could get themselves in trouble